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Palmeri, Allison
From:Mark Riesenfeld <mriesenfeld@gmail.com>
Sent:Friday, June 27, 2025 3:45 PM
To:Lanza, Heather
Subject:Initial Comments on Draft Zoning Code
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Hi Heather,
Hope you are doing well. I appreciate the Town’s efforts to redesign the Zoning Code and move forward
with implementing various aspects of the Comprehensive Plan.
I took some time to go through the Draft Zoning Code.
While my review in not complete, I want to forward to you some initial comments/questions. These
comments/questions are in the form of margin notes calling attention to omissions, ambiguities and
questions about proposed language. I am looking at the text as I former practitioner and trying to
determine if the language is understandable and clearly implementable by Planning and Building
Inspection staff.
The comments are not meant to be critical, but rather to assist in moving toward a better consistently
implementable product.
I think the main policy area I had difficulty with is the attempt to further attainable/affordable housing
through establishment of a a CHO District and the related rules and regulations. The creation of a CHO
District in theory does not appear to result in actual parcels being designated CHO until a project is
approved. This does not seem to give much guidance as to the opportunity areas for housing. Saying
that the HALO areas are candidates is not the same as designating areas of the Town as CHO. I also
think that the bulk of the regulations about affordable housing should not be in the code but rather in a
document adopted by the TBoard as a resolution that can be modified easily from time to time as
warranted.
Thank for considering the attached notes as my public comment as an individual on the Draft Zoning
Code. I would be pleasedto answer any questions you or staff might have about these comments.
Mark Riesenfeld
415-272-6244
mriesenfeld@gmail.com
Orient, NY
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Margin notes on draft Zoning Code
6/27/25
Notes on Zoning Code:
Page 7 280-3 (5)(a) define “started” because this step is critical for
vesting
Page 9 280-6 E. (1) Where the property is located in more than one
zoning district, the more restrictive district rules apply if it includes 15% or more
of the lot area.
Page 10 280-7 A. Define special approval
Page 10 280-8 D. Define fence opacity. Para very confusing.
Page 11 280-8 E. (1) Lot coverage definition that includes all
impervious surfaces will be in conflict with intent of other sections and restrict
actual building area of principal and accessory structures
Page 11 280-9 A. Any limitation contemplated for these exceptions
Page 12 280-11 Merger process unclear. How does property
know even to ask if merger has occurred? Does merger occur absent any action
by the Town? Is there some sort of noticing process that occurs if a merger has
happened? Are mergers also addressed in the subdivision code?
Page 17 280-15 Purpose statement refers to “prime agricultural
soils” without definition. What if some agricultural lands do not have a prime
agricultural soils designation?
Page 23 280-21 Do 1/4 and 1/2 acre minimum lot sizes lead to a
mix of affordable housing types? Exhibit suggests other than larger lots.
Page 28 280-26 Rear yard setback?
Page 39 280-36 Whole section on overlay district confusing.
Suggests that boundaries of the district will be shown on Zoning Map. Does that
mean that land (lots) within the HALO zones and hamlet centers however defined
and developed land with existing buildings that have potential for conversion to
housing will be shown on the Zoning Map as CHO overlay? Are properties
zoned CHO only designated on a project by project basis?
Seems like specific areas should be shown as CHO overlays that then would
require a specific type of project approval that could include the density
opportunities described in the CHO zone.
Section F does not really describe zoning regulations. Most of these provisions
should be adopted by the Town Board by Resolution as guidelines for affordable
housing projects and expectations on their structure. A Resolution would give
the TB more flexibility to respond the changing circumstances will still providing
guidance to project sponsors.
Page 47 280-38 Does this overlay include land encumbered by
conservation easements on owned or totally preserved parcels?
Page 48 280-40 Symbols are a bit confusing. A solid circle is OK
if a zoning permit is approved. What is definition of a zoning permit?
A circle with an A identify uses that require a Certificate of Occupancy. Does
that imply that to receive a C of O other permits may be required other than a
building permit? Interpretation of definition of C o O could be very broad. Are
these uses by right except the necessity to meet building code requirements?
The distinction between “Allowed with permit” and “Allowed as Accessory Use”
suggests that no permit other than a building permit is necessary for accessory
uses shown.
Page 57 280-41 A. This paragraph suggests that a C o O is a permit.
Is it not a document certifying compliance with building and other codes. This
description is not consistent with Chapter 144.15 Southold Town Code.
Page 57 280-41 B. Definition needed for the term “customarily
incidental” to help property owners and staff understand what that means.
Page 57 280-41 D. (3) The lot size, height…R-400, Hamlet Residential
and Hamlet Mixed Use Districts…. Suggested corrections.
Page 59 280-42 G. C of O are approved or issued not allowed.
Page 59 280-42 H. On the Comprehensive Use Permissions charts,
do BLANK boxes signify prohibited uses
Page 59 280-44 A. (b) It is possible that Accessory Dwellings may be
used for a home aide/caretaker and not subject to a rental agreement. Code
should have a provision for that situation as it is conducive to allowing individuals
to age in place or have help for serious medical conditions.
Page 60 280-44 A. (2)(b)iii Again, the rental requirement should be waived
for home aide/caretaker situations.
Page 61 280-44 A. (3)(b)iii Rental issue for home aide/caretaker situation
Page 61 280-44 A. (3) (d) Requirement that units occupy only the first floor
is unreasonable if height, setback and living area square footage requirements
are met. Many existing smaller accessory structures have two floors which could
be used to meet the housing objectives.
Page 62 280-44 A. (4)(a)vii …meet requirements for Community Housing.
Other than financial means testing, what other requirements are there. Not
defined in code.
Page 63 280-44 A. (5)(d)Same issue of limitation to one floor of structure.
More than one floor may be appropriate for smaller buildings.
Page 65 280-44 K. (3) gas station = fueling/charging station in code,
convenience stores larger than 800 sf are not considered accessory uses here
and therefore seem to allow formula food franchises. Correct?
Page 65 280-44 L. “Cottage courts” should be included in definitions for
clarity.
Page 67 280-44 N. Whole section is confusing and makes no sense. No
market rate projects permitted. Trying to accomplish what?
Page 70 280-44 Q. Retail garden centers exist at home supply companies
like Loew’s and Home Depot. They should be part of definition and permitted
use.
Page 70 280-44 R.(2)Home occupations should not be restricted to the main
building as such an activity could occur in a detached accessory structure without
impact to adjoining properties.
Page 70 280-44 R.(8)This description could be problematic unless it is clear
that artist studio is considered a home occupation.
Page 72 280-44 V.(1) D This provision suggests that no newly
constructed building in the Route 25 and 48 corridors can be used as a Country
Inn Hotel. What is the reason for this provision?
Page 73 280-44 Z. Are pool cabanas considered an accessory structure
and therefore subject to height and setback requirements?
Page 74 280-44 AA.(4). …set back from the front facade of the building.
What building is being referred to here—a residential dwelling?
Page 76 280-44 FF.(6)The determination regarding “undue adverse impact”
is problematic. Can some adverse impacts be OK or just undue ones? Also, this
kind of determination and study of issues could be wrapped into a SEQRA review
rather than a separate study about the service and market impacts of a proposed
retail center.
Page 79 280-45. G.(3) Unclear what this section means. Does a farmer need
to apply for some permit to the Planning Board to initiate a start-up farm and who
decides if all those criteria i-ix are being met? Does farmland need to possess
prime ag soils to operate and how much of the farm needs to have prime ag
soils?
Page 80 280-45 G.(4)Again, for “non profit farm” it appears to suggest that
the Planning Board receives and application and some kind of permit or
permission is granted based the various criteria. What is the process for that?
Page 80 280-45 K. Are any rental amount guidelines or restrictions
contemplated by this paragraph for the Farm Worker tenants?
Page 86 280-48 A. (2)(b) Site plan required for an ADU or exempt?
Page 86 280-48 A.(3) Plans required for sites with existing residences?
(5)(b) of the principal use and approved accessory uses
Page 87 280-48 A.(6) Not sure why this analysis is included in a section on
off-street parking and loading.
Page 87 280-48 B. Table 1 Not sure why there is a maximum of 4 spaces per
dwelling shown under the title of minimum required.
Page 87 280-48 D.(11) Front yard parking pad prohibition vehicles is
problematic for many areas with small lots and existing homes with narrow side
yards and no garages. In these areas, parking pads for vehicles are common
and necessary for off street parking.
Page 105 280-49 J. (3). Why is the limitation on hours of illumination applied
only to farms, garden centers or nursery?
Page 110 280-50 Does not appear to include policies or requirement for
inclusion of conservation measures and use of native materials when designing
and implementing a landscaping plan.
Page 128 280-64 A.(3) Why permit a change from one nonconforming use to
another?
(4) define less or more restrictive non conforming use
Page 128 280-64 A.(7). Confusing. Does this mean that the reduced
nonconformity can continue and the discontinued nonconformity permanently
prohibited?
Page 129 280-65 A. There should be a third point similar to 280-64 A.(7) that
says non-conforming uses that have been discontinued for two years in a
building or on a lot shall no longer be permitted.
Page 135 280-77 A. (3) add “To adopt Amendments to the Zoning Code
initiated by the Town Board”
B. Why aren't legislative matters like adoption of
Amendments to Zoning Code appealable to the appropriate court of law through
for example, an Article 78 action?
Page 136 280-80 E. Is revocation of a C of O only a result of violation of a site
plan? What about circumstances where site plan was not required?
Page 137 280-80 B. Define “development activity”
Page 138 280-80 F.(1) Pre-submission conference should include discussion
regarding any variances or special exceptions that may be required and not wait
until after submission of application for a determination as suggested in para F
(3)(a) and following.
Page 139 280-80 F.(4). Later sections in code indicate that the Planning Board
would consider Special Exceptions when a Site Plan review is required.
Page 142 280-80 I. (1)(2)(3) Define “overly large building”, “appropriate
diversity” and “visual discord”
Page 143 280-80 J. For site plans that include multiple dwellings
Page 143 280-80 J. (5) Substitute word “variance” with amendment to avoid
confusion with how variance is used in other parts of code
Page 143 280-80 J.(6) Not sure why this is here. Misplaced?
Page 145 280-80 P.Don’t really need this info in code. More flexible as a
resolution or better yet a department information publication.
Page 149 280-81 E. To what entity is a decision on a sign permit appealed?
Page 150 280-82 D.(4) Render a decision on the application for special
exception
Page 150 280-82 C.(2) In this section, the Planning Board is authorized to act
on special exceptions that also require a Site Plan approval, in D.(3) it says the
Planning Board shall act on special exceptions when reviewing a Site Plan.
Page 150 280-82 D.(1) Town staff should be identified as Building Inspector.
When disapproval occurs, is application forwarded by town staff to ZBA or PB or
does applicant initiate that process?
Page 150 280-82 F.(7) “or in the alternative, the ZBA or the PB shall…”
Page 152 280-82 G.(11) the lot area
Page 152 280-80 G. (12) “unreasonably near” a poor standard, clear definition
needed
Page 152 280-82 H.(1) Double negative makes statement very ambiguous. Is it
meant to say that only the approved special exception use is authorized and no
other?
Page 153 280-82 H.(5) Can there be more than one extension requested and
granted?
Page 153 280-82 H.(7) The term “abandoned” is not defined. What is the
consequence of abandonment, a loss of right to continue the use approved by
the special exception?
Page 153 280-82 J. This paragraph should also apply to the Planning Board
when it acts on special exceptions
Page 154 280-83 A. References to Article VII. This is definitions section of
zoning code. Provisions to amend Code are generally covered by Section 1-8 of
Town Code.
Page 154 280-84 A. Can “use variances” be approved without limitation? In
other words, if findings can be made do variances become a defacto rezoning?
Page 157 280-84 G. This section on retaining and charging for supplemental
technical studies for actions before the ZBA and PB are confusing and
inconsistent. The accompanying administrative rules really don't belong in the
code and should be part of an administrative guidance adopted by resolution and
attached to project applications. There should be a clear distinction between the
cost of preparing the studies and the Town’s fee if any to review and administer
these studies.
Page 159 280-85 Definition of administrative decision—whose decision
can be appealed under this section?
This section is poorly written. It should start out saying what an administrative
decision is, who makes it and who hears the appeal. Seems like this section is
saying that the BI is authorized to make admin decisions and the ZBA is
authorized to an appeal of an admin decision. Then criteria for granting an
appeal can be indicated. If an appeal if filed, there should be stated procedures
and timelines.
Page 160 280-87 A. This section is confusing. The BI stop work authority is
restricted in section 144 to work on buildings and generally does not pertain to
uses of land or existing buildings that could be subject to building permit
requirements. Is it the intent of this section to have the BI do all zoning code
enforcement and if so, what are the procedures for enforcement as distinguished
from issuing stop work orders for construction activity. Are enforcement
warnings issued, who imposes a fine and how is it secured?
Page 163 280-89 Agritourism activities definition restricted to selling
farm’s agricultural products therefore no lodging, restaurant or resort type of
uses.
Airport, Basic Utility Stage II—does this definition
include jet aircraft or just prop driven.
Page 166 280-90 Building area—unclear if this definition includes
basement since at least part of basement is above finished grade—maybe say
“other buildings entirely above finished grade”
Page 167 280-91 Child care. Is child care a use or a building? Should
there be a distinction?
Commercial recreation, indoor/outdoor. Both definitions
refer to a facility. Does facility include such complimentary uses such as offices
and/or club house, or food service incidental to recreational activity? Golf or
tennis club for instance.
Community Housing—Dwellings “that are for sale or
rent” reserved for…
Page 168 280-91 Condominium—Better definition is “a dwelling either
stand alone, in a building or group of buildings in which owners have full title to
the individual dwelling unit and an undivided interest in the shared parts of the
property”
Continuing Care Retirement Community—“living
arrangement for senior adults (aged 62 years or older) in …”
Convenience Store—convenience stores like 7-11 sell
some food items that are not “pre-packaged”.
Cooperative—better defined as “a form of housing
where residents own shares in a corporation that owns the building or buildings
and the common areas, rather than owning individual units like in a
condominium. Each resident receives a proprietary lease for their apartment,
granting them the right to occupy it under the rules established by the
cooperative corporation.”
Page 169 280-92 Deck—What about similar structure NOT attached to a
building? An above grade patio?
Demolition—how is “market value” established here?
Page 170 280-92 Farmhouse—used as a residence by owner or
manager
Farm Worker Housing—provided to house farm
employees and their family members
Page 170 280-93 Educational facility — the statement that vocational and
trade programs are incidental to operation of the school is very confusing. Stand
alone vocational and trade schools could also be considered an educational
facility
Page 171 280-94 Farm stand—Does this mean that retail sale of ag
products at the stand must be grown on the same farm operation where the
stand is located?
Farm tasting room—can only be located on same farm
operation where produce is grown—unclear where products like beer, spirits etc
may involve components not grown on farm.
Page 172 280-94 Fence—“to prevent straying from within or intrusion
from without” is an antique definition—perhaps a more contemporary description
would work best.
Page 174 280-95 Gambling establishment. This is a place not an
activity.
Greenhouse, Permanent. What is a livestock
commodity? Does this mean animals?
Page 175 280-96 Holiday Lighting—Are there no other holidays for which
lighting is permitted other than between Thanksgiving and Jan 15? Potentially
discriminatory.
Homeowners Association—can include associations that do
not have a shared interest in the responsibility for open space or facilities.
Hotel—guests should be substituted for transients for all
definitions
Incompatible Uses—This is a general term that could apply to
many other uses than storage of hazardous wastes.
Page 177 280-100 Lot—which is occupied or which could be occupied
Page 178 Lot Coverage—Definition is too restrictive and will
reduce normally expected ability to develop smaller single family parcels
particularly in combination with Big House provisions.
Page 180 280-102 Natural vegetation—…naturally occurring native
vegetation… Indigenous usually refers to people not plants.
Nursery School—these facilities usually provide for
sleeping areas (naps)
Page 181 280-103 Off-street parking space—this definition would include
parking on a non-public private road
Open Space—not sure what is meant by improvements
like buildings that are incidental to natural openness of the lot or parcel. Usually
open space is unimproved except for possibly parking areas or an informational
kiosk
Page 181 280-104 Patio—can a patio exist without being attached to a
building. Some confusing interplay between deck and patio.
Performance Guarantee—…required as part of a
condition of approval for development…
Pool Cabana—can a cabana contain a toilet/bath, sink,
refrigerator?
Page 183 280-107 Senior living—what is definition of senior adults?
Page 186 280-107 Small Wind Energy System—primarily for on-site
consumption or can be transferred to the grid or an approved BESS?
Page 187 280-108 Substantially rehabilitate—definition uses assessed
value to measure substantially while earlier definitions use market value
Page 188 280-109 Underlying zoning—HPO, APO, CRO districts not listed
on Table 280-14-1. What are they?