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SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD
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January 13 1981
WORK SESSION
9: 00 A.M. - The Board audited the. bills.
. 10: 00 A .M. - Barbara Townsend and Robert Stack from the New York
State Office of Mental Retardation and Developmental Disabilities
met with the Board to discuss their policy for placement of
individuals in community residence sites, the .capabilities of
the individuals who would be in - residence, and the potential
community residence sites on Short Road, Cutchogue, and Gillette
Drive, East Marion. At the time .the OMRDD spoke to the Board in
1978 there were 11 homes in Suffolk County, today there are 41
homes. There are two different groups of people who are housed
in the homes, those with high skills and low skills to uncommunicable.
They hope to have 8 to 10 homes in. Southold Town over the next two
to three years. The suitability of the Short Road. and Gillette
Drive sites was questioned by the Board who are not satisfied
with either location. Supervisor' Pell asked Councilman Nickles
and Drum .to work with Ms. Townsend on the selection of alternate
sites in Southold Town. Mrs . Townsend welcomes- Ahy suggestions
the Councilmen might have and will hold in abeyance further progress
toward acquiring the Short Road and 'Gillette Drive•sites. . Councilman
Nickles objected to working on this project as a Councilman and
real estate broker. Supervisor Pell concurred, stating the entire
Board would work on this project .
10: 45 .A.M. - Mr. Richard Mohring, owner of • Hi--bland -Estates sub-
division spoke with the Board and requested that the ,proposed
increased bond amount for his subdivision be reduced from $370, 000. 00
as recommended by Town Engineer Tuthill and the Planning ,Board.
Mr. Mohring asked. that he be granted a 67month- extension; during.
which time he feels . he can complete almost all of the roads and
improvements in the subdivision. Supervisor Pell suggested that
the Highway Committee and Highway Superintendent Dean reevaluate
the proposed bond amount and a resolution pertaining to this will.
be placed on the January 27th agenda.
10: 55 A.M. - Deputy Inspector •Warren Buckward and Lieutenant
Nemschick of the 7th Squad met with the Board to discuss the
services of the 7th Squad in Southold Town and the charge-back
system. Deputy Inspector Buckward said they cannot answer why
four other townships chose to put' on their own detective service
rather than use the 7th Squad. .. He suggested the Supervisor talk
to those towns to find out their reasons. He also could not answer '
questions concerning the charge-back system. He stated that the
7th Squad has a service squad of. two men .on each tour at a satellite .
office at Southold Town Police Headquarters, and there are 15 men
in the Squad throughout the east end. Supervisor Pell questioned
the productivity of the 7th Squad' in Southold Town; he said they
spend considerable time in headquarters on paperwork rather than
on the road. Deputy Inspector Buckward stated that he was not
aware of that and would correct the situation. Lieutenant Nemschick
described the training of a 7th Squad detective; stating; their
function is investigative, not-'a patrol_ unit.
11 : 30 A.M. - Bob Traugott of .Energy Development Corp. addressed
the Board relative to private ownership of a municipal solid waste
incinerator in the Town of Southold. He discussed the size of the
commitment' on the Town tax base and long term guarantee that all
of the Town' s solid waste and possibly sewage would come to one
point for disposal.. He said all that would be involved on the
part of the Town would be a, tipping fee and the private owner
would hire all of the present Town'.employees now working at the
landfill site and bring in as few other people as possible. The
plant would be capable of processing municipal solid waste and . .
over-size portions would also be' burned and unburnables would. be
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landfilled. The s `"fie"`of the struc if e would''be about 35 ft . "in
height and all operations would be within one building. Mr.
Traugott does not recommend recycling as it would be too costly.
However, the slag that is producedcould be used for road construction.
There would be a baghouse to pull out the dust which would be of a
neutral substance and would be putlinto the landfill., The gases
produced are far below the EPA requirements . The plant itself
would only require 1 acre of ground. He -stated that it is highly
probable LILCO would put up a substation and purchase the electricty
generated by the plant. If industry were in the area the steam
would be sold to them. EnergyDevelopment Corp. is a developer.
They bring all the people together for the project and put together
a partnership which would...become a tax shelter. This proposed
operation would provide .the Town of Southold with a site for the.
disposal of solid and hopefully liquid waste for '20 years or more .
Mr. Traugott requested a letter from the. Town Board stating
. . the Town is willing to commit themselves .on the basis of a 20 year
, contract and mutually agreed tipping fee. (Energy Development
Corp. would apply for all necessary permits •for construction and
DEC) . . -He also asked- for a letter to Mr. Weismantle at LILCO stating
the Town is working with Mr. Traugott on the project . He prepared
suggested letters which were reviewed by Town Attorney Tasker. -
Mr. Traugott said, if the Town agrees to the proposal,, the preliminary
engineering study, EPA impact. statement; air pollution appraisal and
water tests should be complete 'by May 1981. The closing would take
place around August of 1981 and the machinery would be ready to
operate by May or June of 1983.
Mr. Traugott invited the Board to attend the opening of ' an
incinerating municipal solid waste center at Mt. Laurel„New Jersey
on January 21st . Coun-cilmen Murdock, Nickles .and .Murphy plan :to
attend, along with Superintendent of Highways Dean. . ..After they .
have viewed the operation, a. .firm decision will be made with
relation to the Town of- Southold. ;
12:10 P:M. - Sybil Mizzi and. Paul ,Fink of Pan.•Tech Management and
Joseph Sansavrino from the County of Suffolk discussed with the .
Board the allocation , of the expected $400, 000 HUD 'f �nds 'over the :
next two years. The first allocation of $200, 000.9 if.approved, :
will not be received until around August 1981. The Board determined
that from this year' s funds, $100,'000 would go toward the acquisition
of property at the Mattituck Inlet area, $50, 000 toward rehabilitation
of the 7th-9th Street .area in Green,port (which is outside' .of`:the'
incorporated village) , and $50, 000 for correcting the heating system
at the Senior Citizen/Youth Center on Peconic Lane.
The. Board recessed for- lunch at 12:40 P.M.
2: 15 P.M. - The Board began reviewing; the agenda.
Off Agenda Items : - Town •Beach.. Concession, steps at Horton' s Point.,
Glover Sand Pit property. '
Justice Doyen,who was in attendance during the work session-, left
to return. to Fishers Island at 4: 00 P.M.
A .regular meeting of ' the Southold Town Board. was held on Tuesday,
January 13, • 1981 at the Southold Town Hall, - Main Road, Southold,
New York. 'Supervisor Pell opened the meeting at 7: 30 P.M.. with
the pledge -of -allegiance .to the flag.
Present: Supervisor William R.Pell,' III
Councilman Henry W. .Drum
Councilman John J. Nickles
Councilman Lawrence Murdock, Jr.
Councilman Francis J. Murphy
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Town Clerk Judith T. Terry
Town Attorney Robert W. Tasker
Deputy Supervisor Marie Bauer Johnson
Absent : Justice, Francis T. Doyen
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On motion of Councilman Murdock, seconded by Councilman Drum, it; was
RESOLVED that the Town Board minutes of December 30, 1980 be and
hereby are approved as corrected and the minutes of the Southold
Town Board meeting of January 2, 1981 be and hereby are approved
as submitted.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly adopted-.
On motion of Councilman Nickles, seconded by Councilman Murphy, - it- was
RESOLVED that the following audited bills be and hereby are approved
for payment : General Fund Whole Town bills in the amount of $25, 172. 7
"General Fund Part Town bills in the amount of $7, 751 . 97; Highway
Department bills in the amount of $5, 652. 52; .Fishers Island Ferry
District bills in the amount of $19, 352. 56; and Federal Revenue
Sharing bills in the amount of $12,424.52.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes : Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly adopted.
On motion of Councilman Drum, seconded by . Councilman Murdock, it was
RESOLVED that the next regular meeting of the Southold Town Board
will be held at 3: 00 P. M. ; Tuesday, January 27, 1981 at the. Southold
Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, `New York.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: - Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles , Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared, duly adopted.
I. REPORTS - SUPERVISOR PELL:
1... Monthly report of the Building Department (December 1980) .
2. Town Clerk' s monthly report (December 1980) .
3. Town Clerk' s Annual report. (1980) .
4. . Building Department ' s -annual report (1980) .
5.,. Police Department monthly. report (December,�1980) .
6._ Justice Tedeschi ' s- monthly report (December 1980) .
7. Town Trustees monthly report (December 1980) .
8. Town Trustees annual report (1980) .
9. Planning Board annual report(1980) .-
, 10. North Fork Animal Welfare;;League' s December (1.980) report .
SUPERVISOR PELL: - At this time is' /there any ,Councilman who o wants to
make any reports?
COUNCILMAN MURDOCK: We had a meeting; this morning, at our work
session this morning, with the Energy Development Corp. of Connecticut .
They came. over to make a preliminary bronosal to us relative to how
they think they can provide a facility for us at the -Disposal Area.
The Committee on the Disposal Area has now been expanded. " As well as
myself it is now Frank Murphy and John Nickles . The three of us and
the Highway Superintendent. Raymond Dean have been invited to Mt . 'Laurel,
New Jersey to see a plant in' operatiom that this company feels would
be very helpful and beneficial to the Town of Southold. We will be
doing that on January 21st .
SUPERVISOR PELL: I would like to, at this time, ' appoint Councilman
Drum to the Inland Waterways_ Committee and'when he is working in
Mattituck he will work. with Councilman -Murphy;-in Cutchogue with
Councilman Murdock; in Southold Councilman Nickles ; and -east of that
myself.
Also, at the same time I 'would like to have Mr. Murphy work
with the Planning Board on two=family housing. " They were going to
look into that and Mr. Sullivan was. on that but I will replace him
with - Mr. Murphy.
Also, I would _like 'to announce at this time that two vacancies
will exist in February. One on the Board of Assessment Review.
We will accept resumes for a five year appointment up unti-1
January 23rd and make the appointment on January 27th. Also
. there is one term. up .on the Conservation Advisory Council and
again we will .accept resumes up .until January 23rd and make- the
appointment on January 27th.
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II . PUBLIC NOTICES'�� COUNCILMAN NICKLES :
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1 . From. the Department of the Army, Corps of Engineers.
It has to do with the application of William Norris, Pine Neck
Road on Jockey Creek. The site ison the east side of Jockey
Creek Bridge on the south side ofjthe Creek and involves a 3 by
30 ft . ramp, 2. 5 by 10 ft . ramp and a 5-by 16 floating dock -
extending approximately 55 ft'. offshore of the mean high water
line. Response date if you wish to comment on this is February
9, 1981.
2. Also from the Corps of Engineers, Port of F,gyp_t., Main
Road; -Southold has an application to construct a pier, 20 by 20
pile-supported pier to- be used for launching boats, recreational
craft and so on. Copies of both of these notices are with the
Town Clerk. Response date on the Port of Egypt application is
February 9th also.
III . COMMUNICATIONS - SUPERVISOR PELL:
1. From the Southold S hool District in Southold requesting
the Town Board to inform them when certiorary proceedings have
come to an end and affects their budget.
2. The second one I am going to ask you all not to laugh
at, but it is one of the-- communications that we .find .amusing at
Board level . Sometime ago we . ask the County what to do with the
Temik filters that will be getting filled this next month or two
ahead. So we are planning ahead on what to do with them. After
writing to the DEC and asking if they..can. be -placed in the landfill
we had a reply that they are hazardous waste and could not be
placed in the landfill, we, wrote to,; the County Public Health several
times trying to put the pressure ', perhaps, of what to do with them.
We got a reply.` The reply came in this office December 29th and
what they say to do with them is for the homeowner to .store- them
in their garage or in their .basement until they find a solution
fore them, but don' t let them land in- the landfill because- the
Town will be fined._ .- But individuals can store them in their
homes . We are not satisfied with this and we will go back to
the County Health along -wit-h Mr. Dean and we will prepare another
letter for them and I will ask them how long they 'expect .this to
go or if some better solution could not be found whilewe are waiting
for the correct solution. We do not- feel' that it is safe:' to: leave
them in different people' s basements or ,-garages as they. suggest.
Anybody can come in and clean the yard up or clean the -garage up
and they could end up in the landfill and be right back- into the
water, what we are trying to avoid. So needless to say. we are
not pleased with the answer we have received and will so inform' . '
. the County Health Department.
3. Request for a street light (from Mr. and Mrs . Charles
Hickey, 30 Oakwood Road, Southold) which will. beturned over to
the Street Light Committee.
4. A communication from Shelter Island in reference to
the sales tax revenue being shared by the towns. This will be. .
-on our agenda next meeting with a resolution from our Town
suggesting the same idea.
5. I am going to ask, Councilman Murdock to comment on this
. communication, it falls in his. area.
COUNCILMAN.-MURDOCK: This is a letter from C: L. Emery & Associates
of Colborne, Ontario which is addressed to- the Supervisor. It- says,
"Dear Mr: Pell, Your letter went to my former address and must have
been held for sometime before being redirected. Sorry for the long
delay. Our project is a 50 tons per day pilot plant located in the
Industrial Park at Colborne, Ontario. It is owned and operated by
a private limited- liability company called Agpro Industries . . The
plant design is unique as is the process used. Both are protected
by patents pending,which are held by myself and my associates. The
purpose of the plant is "to provide -a cost competitive method of
..waste disposal in an environmentally acceptable manner" . The plant
is now operating and is handling all of the municipal solid waste .
the commercial wastes, and most of the industrial wastes from our
; contracted municipalities . We took over the municipal dump and have
closed .it down since it is no longer required. In operation, waste
to be processed are delivered to the plant in the - usual garbage
packer trucks which pick up the garbage in the usual way but deliver
it to the inside tipping floor of the plant instead of to the garbage
dump. Commercial containers of garbage are emptied at the plant in
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- .the same way. We receive industrial wastes and farm wastes in truck-
load lots also. All garbage is debagged then sent to a mixer. Plastic
sheet material is removed at this stage. Various wastes are fed
into the mixer then to a newly designed machine called a "Hydro-
separator":. This machine emulsifies. all organics. in a water; based.
slurry. it delabels cans and bottles, etc. No shredding or
pulverizing is necessary priorto -the Hydroseparator. This process
eliminates dust and the possibility of explosion. The garbage
odours are eradicated. Papers and cardboard are pulped to a smooth
slurry. At the discharge end the solids are separated from. the
slurry. Cans are removed magnetically, etc. Cans, other metals ,
about half -of the paper and cardboard, plastics, etc. -, are -all
removed and recycled. -The organic slurry is then mixed with other
wastes such as old hay, spoiled dog food, fish remains, holding
tank and sewage sludge and the mix is composted. Wi.th. the correct
mix the compost should contain about 2•. 5% nitrogen, phosphate and
pot asium as well as many trace elements. Farm tests indicate it is
an excellent soil conditioner and can replace the usual synthetic
. fertilizers. The compost is screened and stockpiled to be sold
in bulk or bags. It resembles a dark coloured granular potting soil.
It can be tailored to any reasonable customer requirement. The
oversize from the screen is returned for further breakdown . and
comminution.
The compost process requires about 5 to 7 days. Equip-
ment for the plant is made to order. locally to my design. The cost
of a completed "turn-key" operating plant to handle 50 tons per day
of garbage and other equivalent amount of other wastes will be about
$350, 000. This varies with location and local labour, etc. , and
does not include the land or services. Special building code require-
ments can increase the cost although our plant design is -acceptable
here. We would require a short, feasibility study to investigate
the factors such as location, quantity, quality,- etc. of garbage .
Possible locations, labour conditions , municipal regulations, etc. ,
prior to a recommended design and cost quotation. All enquiries
will be handled by my office. I trust this information is of use.
Charles L. Emery"
So apparently he has a plant that converts municipal solid
waste to compost and we will probably be in contact with hire to see
what solutions he has available for the Town of Southold because
faced with the amount of money that ' the Town is faced with I and
all the other members of the Town Board are determined that we are
going to investigate every opportunity we' can to handle municipal
solid waste in a manner that is not going-to bankrupt .the Town of
Southold and we will be contacting 'Mr. Emery.
SUPERVISOR PELL:
6 . A letter from Commissioner James Melton from Albany saying
that Fishers Island residents are exempt from the pollution testing
of vehicles over on Fishers Island because it is a unique location
and the amount of vehicles there. This was a request we made on
their behalf last August. - It took all this time to get the results
but it came through in a positive way.
7. Letter from the State Comptroller reference to commercial
banks and holding the time deposits of municipalities. Something
I will have to look into and report back to the Board on.
IV'. HEARINGS AND DECISIONS - NONE.
V. RESOLUTIONS .
1. On motion of Councilman Drum, seconded by Councilman : Murdock, it was
RESOLVED t-hat the Town Clerk be and she hereby is authorized �o
advertise for bids for the purchase of a new 24 ft. - Privateer` 2400
Trawler Cabin Workboat, or the equivalent, for the Southold Town
Bay Constable.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes : Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Murdock, ,Councilman Nickles, Councilman .Drum, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly adopted.
SUPERVISOR PELL: What we are doing here is .we are- trading in the
present boat we have, keeping the two outboards, transferring them
on to this boat. We feel we have more life in the outboards, 'they
are 1979's but we feel we want a better boat for our Bay Constable
to work out of. Th6—boat is a little bit older than the outboards
are.
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2. On motion of Councilman Murphy, seconded by Councilman Murdock, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold award the bid
for one (1) new 1980 15 passenger Plymouth Voyager Maxi-Wagon to
Mullen Motors , Inc. , Southold,. New York, at a bid price of $11, 000. 00 ;
to be paid for from the Whole Town Contingency Fund. )
Vote of the TownBoard: Ayes : Councilman Murphy;- Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, . Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly adopted. -
SUPERVISOR PELL: This will be fully reimbursed by the Office of
the Aging to the Town. The Town has ' to put the money out first
and then we get reimbursed.
3. On motion of Councilman Murdock, seconded by Councilman Drum, it ' was
RESOLVED that James Fogarty, Radio Operator,, be� and he hereby is
granted his Step I pay -increase in the amount of $500. 00 effective
December 1, 1980.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly adopted.
4. On motion of Councilman Nickles, seconded by Councilman Murdock, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold reappoint Frank
Cichanowicz to the Conservation Advisory Council for a two -year term
from January 11, 1981 through January 11, 1983.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman.
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pell .
This resolution was declared duly adopted.
5 . On motion of Councilman Drum, seconded by Councilman Murphy,` it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold reappoint
William P. Ruland to the Conservation Advisory' Council' for a two
year term from January 11 , 1981 through January ll, -1983.
Vote of .the Town Board: Ayes : Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Drum,, Supervisor Pell .
This resolution was declared duly adopted.
6. On motion of Councilman Murphy;'- seconded by Councilman Nickles , . it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold reappoint
John J. Talbot to the Housing Board of Appeals for a .t�ree year - ,
term from..January 9, 1981 through January 9, 1984.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly adopted..
SUPERVISOR PELL: Number' 7 we are going to wait on. All the paper
work is not in. I thought it would be, that is why it was- put on
the agenda, but it did not come through in time.
Number 8 (a) the Town Board was in discussion with the gentleman
today who owns Highland Estates and we. are going to meet with him
again. Myself; perhaps, and somebody else and see if we cannot
work out some of the problems he is having with the size of the
bond Number 8(a) will be held and put on the agenda on 1/27...
8(b) On motion of Councilman Nickles, seconded by Councilman Murphy, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the .Town of Southold increase the
bond amount for roads and improvements in 'the subdivision known
. as "Soundview Acres at Orient: from $77, 000. 00 to $150, 000. 00 as
recommended by the Southold own Planning Board and Town Engineer
Lawrence Tuthill.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly -adopted.
8(c) . On motion of Councilman Drum, seconded by Councilman Murdock, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of- the Town of Southold increase the
bond amount for roads and improvements in the subdivision known .:
as "Paradise By The Bay" located- at Southold, New York, from
$53, 000. 00 to $106, 000: 00 as recommended by the Southold Town-
Planning Board 'and Town Engineer Lawrence 'Tuthill.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy-, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly adopted.
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.9. On motion of Councilman Murdock, seconded by Councilman Drum, it was
RESOLVED that pursuant to Article 8 of the Environmental Conservation
Law State Environmental Quality Review and. 6NYCRR Part 617, Section
617. 10 and Chapter 44 of the Code of the Town of Southold, notice is
hereby given that the Southold Town Board as lead. agency for the action
described below, has determined that the project will have a significant
effect on the environment.
Description of Action: Reconstruction of three bridges at Mud, Downs,
and West Creeks in the Town of Southold by the County of Suffolk.
The project has been determined to have a significant effect on
the environment for the following reasons:
Damage -to Town owned tidal wetlands from construction -activities.
Change in the neighborhood character resulting from changes to
traffic patterns.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes : Councilman Murphy, ''Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Drum, , Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly adopted.
10. On motion of Supervisor Pell, seconded. by Councilman Drum, it was
RESOLVED that the application of Oscar Goldin, dated December 31,
1980 for the renewal of his trailer on the south side of Linnet
Street, ,.Greenport , New- York, be e and hereby is granted for a six
(6) month period.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes : Councilman Murphy., Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly adopted.
11. On motion of Councilman Murphy, seconded'.by Councilman Murdock, it was
RESOLVED that Antoinette Be.rkoski, Clerk-Typist at the Southold Town
Police Headquarters be and she hereby is granted her Step II salary
increase in the amount of $500. 00 effective January .l, 1981.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes : Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Drum, -. Supervisor -Pell.
This resolution was declared duly adopted.,
12. On motion of Councilman Murdock, seconded by Councilman Drum, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold ..approves the
action of the Board of Commissioners of the Fishers •Island Ferry
District in 'awarding the .bid for the operation of the M/V 'Munnatawket
_and M/V Olinda for the period January 15, 1981 through and including
January 14, 1984 to Mark B. Easter Gager. Road, . RFD #1; Fitchville,
Ct . ' 06344 at the following bid amounts:
Munnatawket operation (12 month basis) $10, 700. 00/month
Olinda operation (5 month basis) $ 3, 700. 00/month
Munnatawket extra trips $ 115. 00/trip
Olinda extra trips $ 75. 00/trip •
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes : Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Murdock,. Councilman Nickles , Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly adopted.
13. On motion of Councilman Murphy, seconded by Councilman Nickles , it was
RESOLVED that pursuant to Article 8 of the Environmental Conservation
Law State Environmental Quality Review and 6NYCRR Part 617, Section
617. 10 and Chapter 44 of the Code of the Town of Southold, notice is
hereby given that the . Southold Town Board, as lead agency for the
action described below, has determined that the project will not
have--a-;,significant effect on the environment.
Description of Action: Application of Norman C•. Boos for a wetland.
permit. Permission is requested to dredge and bulkhead on west
-side
of existing marina located at Broadwaters Cove off Bay Avenue/Skunk
Lane, Cutchogue, New York. •
The project has been determined not to have a .significant effect
on the environment for the following reasons:
An environmental assessment has been submitted which indicated
that no significant adverse effects to the environment are likely
to occur should the project be implemented as planned.
Because there has been no response in the allotted time from
the New York State Department of_ Environmental Conservation, it is
assumed that there is no objection nor comments by that agency.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman -Murphy, .Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pell .
This resolution was declared duly adopted.
14.= Moved by Councilman Murduck,__ _ seconded by Councilman Drum,
:WHEREAS, Norman C Boer applied--to the Southold Town Board for a
permit under the provisions of the Wetland Ordinance of the Town
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of Southold, application dated November 17, 1980, and
WHEREAS, said application was referred to the Southold Town
Trustees and the Southold Town Conservation Advisory Council 'for
their findings and recommendations, and
WHEREAS, a public hearing was held by the Town Board with respect
to• said application on the 16th day of December, 1980, at which
time all interested persons were given an opportunity to be heard,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that Norman C. Boos, Cutchogue, New
York be granted permission under the provisions of the Wetland
Ordinance of the Town of Southold to dredge and bulkhead the west
side of an existing marina, Broadwaters Cove Marina,. at Broadwaters
Cove, Skunk Lane, Cutchogue, New York.
COUNCILMAN MURDOCK: I ' ll further state that after the public
hearing we received a communication from Edward Hindermann, our
building inspector, and he felt that the plot plan as submitted
by Mr. Boos was not thorough enough and left a great deal of
speculation as to where the spoils were being placed and Mr. ' Boos
and Mr. Hindermann have gotten together and Mr. Boos put a new
plot plan that has been acceptable to the Southold Town building
inspector and therefore I offer the resolution to Approve Mr. Boos
plan.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes : Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles , Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pell..
This resolution was declared duly adopted.
15. On motion of Councilman Nickles, seconded by Councilman Murdock, it was
RESOLVED that $100. 00 be and hereby is advanced from Town funds -
Whole Town General Contingent Account, to the Nutrition Program to
complete the Nutrition Program Title V Grant,
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes : Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pella
This resolution was declared duly adopted.
16. Moved by Coun_ cilman. Murdock, seconded by Councilman Drum,
WHEREAS, the offices of Town Justice Rich and Town Justice Tedeschi
have been relocated to the Southold Town Hall effective December
29, 1980, and
WHEREAS, Justices Rich and Tedeschi had Savin Co2y Machines in their
individual offices prior `to relocation, and
WHEREAS, funds are not available in the 1981 budget to maintain these
copiers at the Southold Town Hall, and there are copy machines
presently available to them at the Town Hall, now, therefore; be .it
RESOLVED that the two 755 Savin Copy Machines, Serial Numbers .
800404429 and 800404436 be returned to th.e. Savin .Corporation immediately.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes : Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pell .
.This resolution was declared duly adopted.
17. Moved by Councilman Nickles , seconded by Councilman Murphy,
WHEREAS, on September 23, 1980 the Southold Town Board passed
a resolution creating the Robins Island Citizens Advisory
- Committee, and
.WHEREAS, the Town Board .desires that a •fully informed choice
be made between all the alternatives for the future of Robins.
Island, and
WHEREAS, the Commissioner of the New York State• Department of.
Environmental Conservation in a letter dated April 21 , 1980
indicated •that limited development was a concept worthy of
consideration as. an alternative for preservation considering;
the fiscal restraints that government and the taxpayers are
under, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board' s intent on September 23, 1980 was to
have the Robins Island Advisory Committee study all the
alternatives of preservation, including limited development, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board wishes to clarify the Robins Island
Advisory Committee Resolution- -of September 23, 1980 . and reaffirm
its original intent , now, therefore, be _it
RESOLVED that the Town Board hereby directs the Robins Island
Advisory Committee to include in their deliberations and final
report the study of limited development as proposed by' the
present owners as a means of preservation_,. and be it further
RESOLVED that when the Robins Island Advisory Committee makes
. , its final report to the Town Board the following information
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shall be included but not limited to:: -
1. Road ownership and maintenance,
2. - Fire Protection, j
3. New Suffolk School District - positive and negative
impact of a limited development. :
4. An analysis of tax revenues: that will accrue to the .Town.
5 . An analysis of the cost of, services that. the Town .must
provide.
6. A complete description of the present, proposal for limited
development.
7. A .study of the legal aspects .of a change of zone for Robins
Island for the purpose of :providing. limited development.
8. An analysis of . Fishers Island relative to assessments and
taxes accruing to the Town vis-a-vis the. cost of services� to the
Town - correlating this information to the limited development .of
Robins Island.
9. An analysis of the .financial impact on the private _sector -
during the initial stages of development and the long term.
And be it further RESOLVED that. the' original resolution adopted on
September 23, 1980 be and -the same" hereby is amended as herein
before set forth.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes : . . Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Murdock,' Councilman Nickles,. Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was .declared duly .adopted.
18. On motion of Councilman Drum, seconded by. Councilman Murdock, it was
RESOLVED that pursuant to the provisions of Section 284 of . the
Highway Law, the Town Board of the,'Town of Southold 'agrees .that moneys
levied and collected for the repair 'and improvements of highways , and
received from the state for the repair and. improvemento of highways
sh-all be expended, as follows.: , General Repairs. The sum 'of
$773, 600. 00 may be expended for general repairs upon '180, 22 miles
of town highways, including sluices,'culverts and bridges having
a span. of less .than five feet and.:boardwalks or the renewals thereof.
Vote of the Town Board Ayes : Councilman Murphy, , Councilman.
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly adopted. ;
SUPERVISOR PELL,: Number 19 is to hire James McMahon.
COUNCILMAN DRUM: This is as a,,.-result of your. Town Board many
months ago being advised of federal funds'being available for a
youth service coordinator.. Basically .the"-youth service coordinator
will direct the activities of the town youth service program. The
duties are varied, they include the management of the business
activities of the program„ reviewing; the progress of .a variety of
projects which are designed to. control and prevent juvenile
delinquency. State and federal grants are available and we have
some 38 applications. There were certain. requirements. It required
graduation from an accredited college. or university and including
study of behavioral science and sociology and four years of professional
experience. As I say, there were.38 applications. Your Town Board
interviewed six and we have the name of 'one which I will offer and
that is James C. McMahon.
19. On motion of Councilman Drum, seconded by Supervisor Pell, it was
RESOLVED that James C. McMahon be ,and he. -hereby is appointed by
' the Town Board of the Town of Southold as• the Dir ector of the
Southold Town Del-in uency Diversion and Prevention program for
one year effective February 9, 1981 at a salary of 17, ..00 per
annum.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
..:.Murdock, Councilman Nickles, - Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pell.
. .This resolution was declared duly :adopted.. ,
20. On motion of Councilman Murdock, seconded by Councilman. Drum, it was
RESOLVED that the Town .Board of the' Town of Southold grant Custodians
John Hutter and Douglas Clark-`their-Step III salary increase in
the- amount of $500. 00 effective February 1, 1981.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Murdock; Councilman Nickles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly adopted.
SUPERVISOR PELL: That' s the prepared agenda we have tonight.
I' d like- to ask the Councilmen if:.;they have anything they would
like to bring up? Larry?
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COUNCILMAN MURDOCK `-; Yes, I"would, 'Bill. It ' s on the back of
our agenda, if you will notice, on what is called the work session
agenda. At 11: 30 we had a meeting with Pan Tech Management, the
people involved are not important , but ,,Pan Tech Management is the
Town' s representative in the SuffolkCounty Consortium for HUD
funding. We` did effectively discuss and have an agreement from
Pan Tech that they would prepare the applications for us to use
HUD funds, this year' s allocation of HUD funds, to set aside
$50, 000 to help alleviate the heating problem that we have at
the Senior Rec Center--Senior/Youth Pec Center on Peconic' Lane.
We set aside $50, 000 as the first year of-:a two year program on
rehabilitating housing on Seventh, Eighth and Ninth Streets in
Greenport , part of Greenport Village that .is Town of Southold and
not the Village of Greenport and very happily I ' d like to say that
we also committed $100, 000 this year as part of a two year program
to attempt to purchase the tank farm at Mattituck Inlet . She would
like to purchase the tank farm, raze the tanks and provide a park
and recreation area for the residents of the Town of Southold. We
Are hoping that we can 'do this project without going into bonded
indebtedness for the Town. We have been looking for an avenue of
funding. The HUD funds apply in that. the people who handle the
application have inspected, the area and agree that the tanks are
in a rundown and dilapidated condition, they' re an eyesore as well
as a health menace. They have caused us problems and it' s perfectly
within the purview to take them down and establish a recreation
area. We will now start to contact the owners of the property and
hopefully by the end of the year we can negotiate a sale, and start
to take that blight on our township away and I am very happy it has
worked out. I appreciate the cooperation of the Board and I am sure
the rest of the Mattituck Inlet Committee does also.
COUNCILMAN DRUM: And of course this facility would be utilized
for all the residents in Southold Town.
COUNCILMAN MURDOCK: Yes, it' s not a park district. One of the
things we did consider also is that we have very limited access on
a town-wide basis .to Sound front or Sound beaches. In Mattituck at
the end of Breakwater it' s the -Mattituck Park beach. 11n Peconic
it ' s the Peconic Park District. In East Marion Causeway it ' s the
East Marion-Orient Park District and most of the facilities we have
in Town are not available on a town-_wide basis but only to the
residents of that specific area and we feel that this will serve
a need as well as stop the. problem that has vexed us very badly.
COUNCILMAN DRUM: I might say we also met with some representatives,
this morning, from ,the--Deputy Inspector from the 7th Squad and of
course on Thursday we are going to meet with the East End Supervisors
.and their representatives, which is as a result of a meeting held
last Thursday in the County Center in Riverhead at which time. M`r.
Cohalan advised, his representative advised us, that the--and it may
be rather difficult to understand, I hope I can explain it clearly--
�.' At 'present the 7th Squad is under the general fund. Now, the general
, fun,d, everyone in the county pays the cost of the operating of the
7th Squad. It has been proposed by the Bounty executive that this
7th Squad now be funded in what they would call a police district;
-it would be taken out of the general fund which now means that those
townships utilizing the services of the 7th Squad would be charged
for. The 7th Squad primarily furn-ishes --services to the five eastc='n
towns. Southold Town is one of the largest users of the 7th Squad.
They indicated that in looking into the cost, which estimates that
it will cost approximately $800, 000 this year to operate the 7th
Squad. The 7th Squad, when I use the 7th Squad, we are talking;
about the detective investigative work that it furnishes, particularly
to us in the Southold Town. There are some 19 employees in the 7th
Squad in Suffolk County. Now, in the amount of funds, this $800, 000,
if we were the only township utilizing this service, Southold. Town
would pay the full $800, 000 and if all of the five townships paid
and the villages, it would be prorated. It would be on the basis
if you used it onelday out of the year you would pay your proportionate
share, say, four townships .divided into $800, 000--$200, 000. If you
used it 365 days a year you would. pay the same amount. I personally
feel it is totally unsatisfactory, that it would, I feel the cost
would be prohibitive and of course that is the reason for having;
this meeting on Thursday to see if it cannot be resolved and come
up with some solution, a better solution, to the county executive.
They use the figure as much as a house assessed say at $40, 000, the. .
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cost would be perhaps $8. 00 per household, . whether you- talk about
household or business or what have you. That was 'used as an example,
not specific, of course. But it is-hoped that we on Thursday can
resolve some of these problems .. Iam only a member of the committee
appointed by Mr. Pell, one of the members..
SUPERVISOR PELL: -I hope you realize the affect this, is going _to .
have on our township. Last. Augusti we had a meeting--Hank .was with
me--the east end towns met with Mr. .Caputo in Southampton and we
agreed at that time that we would".like to sit down and have input
when they come up with the formula:: they' are going to use and we
all agreed and I sent Councilman - Drum to be on this committee and
the committee never, met. ' '-Then we met the other day as Hank says
and were told this is the way 'it is going to be, so I guess we
opened our mouths up a little bit and asked them to` go back to
square one, what we agreed .upon 'in August,. or September, whenever
it was, therefore we agreed at ., the .east end we would like to do
this and have input. This is a stand we want to take. We want
to go back to square one where we agreed. So, through the good
office of our county exec whose aid, was- there , he agreed, yes, we
will have a meeting and we can go back to square one and. we will
let you have input , and Joyce, Ros be' is here from the county execs
office, who was there at . that meeting. Joyce, . anything you want
to say on this?
JOYCE ROSCOE: Well, I understand Commissioner Dillworth will
have further input' and the meeting will be held Thursday at. 10: 00
A. M. at the Mill Creek Inn.
SUPERVISOR PELL: The meeting is' going to be held here ' in;!Southold
Town, Thursday at 10: 00 o!.clock and I have invited our Town Board
to go -with me to it , the entire Board, because we~, have the most
at stake. We use the 7th Squad. more ' than all the. rest of the four.
towns combined. We are the only Town 'who relies 100% on the 7th.
COUNCILMAN MURDOCK: It just, occurred to me, Bill,,..is .this going
to be at the Soundview? Because the Soundview is closed.
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SUPERVISOR PELL: No, the Mill Creek Inn, Thursday, 10: 00 A.M.
We are going to meet there ,and try� to come up with a solution.
COUNCILMAN DRUM: You'renot picking 'up the 'tab' for the public to have
free coffee, are you?
SUPERVISOR PELL: This . is dutch treat unless somebody wants to be
so generous and its not the Town Board.
Anything else Hank? John? Frank?
COUNCILMAN MURPHY: Just one thing, on street lights. I would
like anyone who has any feelings on it, . any' ideas where they
would like a light put or a business area that should be improved
to get the recommendation into us.' .Henry and I will go around,
evaluate, make a list of priorities. We do have quite a. bit. of
money to spend this year but also we want to consider not just
putting lights around because they `do cost money- on a continuing
basis, the electric cost and ,t,he, pole rental cost. We want them
:where they will do some good, where there is . a dangerous ' inter-
section, traffic-wise or .maybe .,a pedestrian problem. If anyone
has any ideas we would-like-your input: We would like a letter
directed to the Town Board Street Lighting Committee and we' ll get'
it, we will act on it and we will be,- going around evaluating
different sections of the Town. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR PELL: I see some people here who. have given me some
telephone calls this week and I .am. going. to try to answer their .
questions perhaps before they' re asked.. We did meet today at ,
10: 00 o' clock with Barbara Townsend, Office of Mental Retardation.
They have selected--tentatively selected--two- homes in Southold
Township. The Town Board did discuss the criteria of selecting
homes with them today. and we did ask them to hold these two homes
in abeyance, not do any more investigation on them,. that we at
the Board level felt perhaps these were not quite the best locations
for the proposed homes they 'hope toset up . in our township and
that we would be, on the Board level, working with them perhaps
finding better locations. So =over the- next couple of weeks I will
be assisting, with the help ofthe,"Board, them to perhaps look at.
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other areas in the Town. But we_ asked them and they agreed to
hold everything in :ab,eyance yunt >1 we`' have, at° Board level , a chance
to go around and look at other areas of the Town with them. So
Thope I answered some of your questions before they get asked.
On the _Senior Citizens/Youth building, one element of the
heating was burned out, they replaced it with a new switch yesterday.
We checked the heat yesterday at 12 o' clock, I was up there. The
man just got done fixing it, we seit it at 70 degrees, left it there
.all night. This morning Mr. Dean "went in there at 8 : 00 o ' clock. .With
the doors closed yesterday afternoon and all night and the temperature
was down and there was no wind, we went in there this morning at
8,: 00 and the temperature was 58-59 degrees. . The thermostats on
both ends were set at 70 degrees. The heating system in that
building is not adequate, to do the job. The water pipes are
frozen, they' ve been frozen since last week. It is a problem we,
have, somewhere along the line something isn' t right. The .Town
Board, as you heard tonight, just approved in federal funds $50, 000
to go in there and put in a supplemental heating 'system. Fix the
water pipes so they will be fixed and run right , put a divider in
there perhaps so we can only heat one end at a time if we have to.
But this cannot be done over night. I know I am getting telephone
calls from the presidents of the different clubs asking what ' s being
done about it, so I see some of you here, -take this information back
.to your clubs and tell them the Board has authorized the money to do
this it ' s just going to take time now to get everything done. . They
cannot thaw the pipes out . We think the problem we ' re having with
the pipes, 'I say we think, the well is put out in front of the building
and when they had to lower the land, the ground to make it so it
pitched away, it' s not four feet below ground now, it might only be
two and a half. So we are probably going to have to end up in the
springtime putting in A well out back somewhere else. We have a
problem there, we admit it.;. , .but; we are willing at Board level to
. appropriate funds, We already have $11, 000 to use there, the
appropriated $15, 000 to get it set up with the speakers and the
piano and other stuff there, now we have heating problems there,
We are willing to spend the money but it is just going to take us
time to. do., it. It is something. we have .to correct and we admit it :
COUNCILMAN NICKLES: Bill, what' was the temperature in there when
you turned the heat back-on?
SUPERVISOR PELL: I don' t know, John, I didn' t look at it. Irwent
up there yesterday noontime, I,-know, the gentleman was there to
repair it. - He had to order a switch. I---know the switch came in
so I know he was up there working. I got there just as he was coming
out the door. . I spoke to him outside the door- and he put . it on 70
degrees. I walked inside and. told the people, leave it. on 70 degrees
for the rest of- the day and all night. - Don' t turn it 'back at night
because I want to see how warm it would be this morning and Mr. Dean ,
as I said, checked it out at 58-59 degrees after being on. Our heat-
ing bill for not this past month, but a month ago, for the month
of November up there to heat that place was $1100. We are .going--
what we plan to do .tentatively is on the northeast corner.'of the
building, to build a shed _out there and put in supplementary hot
air system. A big hot air system that will blow hot air in there
and duct it overhead and come down on the far side. Tentatively
this is what we talked about with Mr. Dean at Board level today.
Now we have the money appropriated, we will go in there and figure
out what is ' the best way to dolt. It is something we are asking--
a problem we have to live with and we are asking patience from all
concerned but it can be worked out and it will.be worked out .
MRS . RACHAEL DUELL: I was just wondering who proposed those
two sites originally to the OMR?
SUPERVISOR PELL: We have no idea, .they just went in. As they
explained to us today, they will go into a town and go to any
real estate sales person and say this is what we have, do you
have a home that you think fits our weeds and .that' s the way
they operate. Just to any real estate in the town. One person
I know called them directly a couple of days ago about another
house saying they would like to sell their house. She told us
today that she had somebody call her directly.
MRS . JOHN CAMPBELL: I am curious about what the criteria is.
I heard talk about 15 residents. I don' t know about the Short
Road site but. the house on Gillette Drive has only three bedrooms .
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SUPERVISOR PELL: It could be four .to six people per house and
as- she- said today, these are people who wi-11 have house parents
with them constantly. They will not be left alone. They were
out here two years ago in 1978 and discussed it with the - Town Board
at that time. Then they came out today and discussed it with us
today.
COUNCILMAN DRUM: We don' t feel that the two locations they selected
were adequate for entirely different criteria. We do have the ,home..
on Boisseau Avenue which we felt . was most satisfactory. and that was
near town, close to the various facilities, that, would be available'
to the people and now this has goAeoto the other route more or less
isolated. We do not feel that they are satisfactory. If you
wanted some specific information, after the meeting, there is some
specifics here I ' m sure you are welcome to read the information that.
we have.. ;
MRS. CAMPBELL: How much authority does the Town Board have with nMR?
Will they respect your wishes? -
SUPERVISOR PELL: So far they have. Everything we have worked out
with them they always have respected the wishes of the Town Board.
As they said inthe press, they do have the right to come in and do
it without us, but they never have done it that I know of anywhere
on the east end.
COUNCILMAN DRUM: We have been cooperative and they have.
SUPERVISOR PELL: Now it is up to us to find a location that we
think is suitable and then suggest, it to them and work with them
on a joint venture.
MR. MI.CHAEL MATTES : With reference to the Mattituck Inlet situation,
my neighbors aren' t here this evening but I can-, advise them that
.the Town Board is going to take some action. I would like to take
this opportunity to publicly thank the Town Board for. its actions
today. This has been a very hot issue down in my ,area and my
neighbors are constantly chewing my ear off about what the Town.- is
doing. I am sure I speak on behalf of all of the residents down
in my area and .I would like again 'to publicly thank you for your
actions. '
SUPERVISOR PELL: I want to tell you all that these are HUD funds .
There are $230, 000 available to the Town for the next three years .
$30,, 000 we left out of it in contingency.' in case there is a 10%
cutback administrations cost. These funds, I want to make sure you
all understand this and the press' - does too. These are what we are
going to apply for. 'It will be sometime in summer before we get
the final approval. I understand it will -be mid-August. August we,
will get final approval for them and then we have to go the next .
step, have design acceptance done. Now in the case of the Senior
Citziens building we have funds for design work left over in the
Library Grant, $50, 000 Library Grant . . We can use that funding; to
have the design and engineering work done for the building on Pecohic
Lane. We do not have to wait. that. long and as we will for your
money. - We have all our paperwork in line so when August comes and
we get approval of the funds we .can--go right to work in the Center. .
COUNCILMAN NICKLES, Bill, my understanding is,. even on the center,
. even though we can do a ' lot of preliminary work because of the funds
we have on hand, my understanding is we won't, be able to have the
granting funds which would actually be the construction money.. In
other words, looking at like a November completion of the change
. of the heating system and addition ' of the utility building.
SUPERVISOR PELL: Anybody else wish to address the Board?
On motion of Councilman Drum, seconded by Councilman Murdock, it was
RESOLVED that there being no further business to come before this
Town Board meeting adjournment be -called at 8: 30 P.M.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes : Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman' Nickles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared. duly adopted.
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Juudi T. ,Terr
Town Clerk .