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Southold Town Board of Appeals
MAIN ROAD - STATE ROAD 25 SOUTHOLD, L.I., N.Y. 11971
TELEPHONE (516) 765-1809
APPEALS BOARD
MEMBERS
CHARLES GRIGONIS, JR., CHAIRMAN M I N U T E S
SERGE DOYEN, JR. — — — — — — —
ROBERT J. DOUGLASS
GERARD P. GOEHRINGER REGULAR MEETING
JOSEPH H. SAWICKI
SEPTEMBER 3, 1981
A Regular Meeting -of the Southold Town Board of Appeals was
held on Thursday, September 3 , 1981 at 7 :15 o'clock p.m. at the
Southold Town Hall, Main Road., Southold, New York 11971 .
Present were: Charles Grigonis, Jr. , Chairman; Serge Doyen,
Jr. ; Gerard P. Goehringer; .Joseph H. Sawicki. Absent was : Robert
J. Douglass, until 7 : 21 o 'clock p.m.
The Chairman opened the meeting at 7 :15 o'clock p.m.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2854 . Application of Michael
A. LoGrande, 63 Pinedale Road, Hauppauge, NY 11788 for a Variance
to the Zoning Ordinance, Art. III, Sec. 100-31 for an insufficient
frontyard setback for new dwelling at the east side of Stillwater
Avenue, Cutchogue, NY; bounded .north by Madzelan, west by Chituk,
south by Stillwater Avenue, .east by Barlotta; County Tax Map Item
No. 1000-136-2-4 .
The Chairman opened the hearing at 7 :15 p.m. by reading the
appeal application and related documents, legal notice of '.h.ear.ing
and affidavits attesting to its publication in both the local . and
official newspapers, Notice of Disapproval from the Building Inspector,.
and letter from the Town Clerk that notification to adjoining property
owners was made; fee paid $15. 00 .
MR. CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone here to add to what has been
stated in the application?
MICHAEL LoGRANDE: I'm the applicant in this case. I.''m
Michael LoGrande and I'm here with my wife. We're co-owners of
the property and we' e -just, we had an aerial photograph prepared
and that perhaps canplain both the woodiness of the site and
also the topography in configuration with reference to the
water body, if I may shJis
that.
MR. CHAIRMAN : Yes.
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MEMBER GOEHRINGER: It' s beautiful.
MICHAEL LoGRANDE: A little colorful. This is. the subject
property over here and . this is Stillwater Avenue. The houses that
are colored in red have setbacks already of less. than 50 feet.
Most of them were built. under the older provisions of the ordinance
and I took an area of about., a distance of about 12 hundred feet in
all directions and those colored in red are .less. There are many
of them that you can see. are much closer to the road than 35 feet.
The site itself, if you look at. the property, all of this is
vacant. This is a current aerial--1981 , and this piece of .prop-
erty sits here and the remaining portions of the property, _.also
vacant, seen in white, you can .see that the heaviest vegetative
part of this is up in this area here. The property, I think, shown
better, perhaps,. .on the survey, has a ten foot elevation up by the
road going down to one feet right by the water. If we can, in order
to preserve the eight foot requirement, if we can move the house up
a little bit, we could -take advantage of the high part of the site
which is this area. And without disrupting many of the trees at
the southern end of it, the point closest to the water, which will
also, I think, aggravate the run-off situation and make the silting
of that canal worse than what it is right now. We think it 's a
reasonable application.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Are you going to--can I ask you a question?
MICHAEL LoGRANDE: Sure.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Are you going to position the house just
the way it' s shown here, Mr. LoGrande?
MICHAEL LoGRANDE: Yeah, just about.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: It won't be adjusted, then, to the road front.
It'll be adjusted straight--
MICHAEL LoGRANDE: Well, I think actually, parallel to the road
front--
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Actually parallel.
MICHAEL LoGRANDE: Yeah, it would be skewed a little bit with
reference to the property line because the property itself is skewed.
But we'd like to make it parallel to the road front. We'd also like
to preserve as much as possible the view from the adjacent properties.
These are spread fairly far apart, but we would do it in a way that we
would maintain the higher, wider sideyard setback on this side to
afford this little better view from the property across the way, as
opposed to hugging a little bit closer in this area. These views are
not as interesting in this area.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: How large is the house you're going to build?
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MICHAEL LoGRANDE: We think right now it's going to be about
for:- y by sixty, total with the garage and all.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: It' s a one-story house?
MICHAEL LoGRANDE: Yes. We intend to build it on a slab and
that' s why the elevation's critical as far as we're concerned.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone else who would like to speak
for this? (Negative) Anyone opposed to it? (Negative) If there' s
no further questions, I'll offer a resolution granting this as applied
for.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Second.
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The Board made the following findings and determination:
Appellant by this appeal seeks an area variance for a reduced
frontyard setback from the required 50 feet to 35 feet for a
proposed new dwelling with dimensions of approximately 65 feet
wide by approximately 40 feet deep. The lot in question contains
an area of 18, 917 square feet, has road frontage of 100 feet, is
an average of 195 feet deep, and fronts along . a dredged canal
known as Eugene' s Creek (a/k/a East Creek) , Cutchogue. The New
York State Department of Environmental Conservation has restricted
the location. of the proposed new dwelling to be within 95 feet of
Stillwater Avenue, pursuant to Tidal Wetlands Notification Letter
dated October 17 , 1980 , TWNL #15276-0341. The Board notices that
the proposed location of the house as shown on applicant' s survey
dated November 3 , 1980 indicates that the northwesterly corner of
the house is.more than or very near the 95 foot line and the
house may have to be turned on a bit of an angle in order to
comply with the DEC restriction. The turning of the house on
a slight angle would not affect the frontyard setback from Still-
water Avenue. The Board recognizes applicant' s practical diffi-
culties in this proposed project and agrees with applicant and
the DEC.
In considering this appeal , the Board determines that the
variance request is not substantial; that the circumstances herein
are unique and the practical difficulties have been shown; that by
allowing the variance no substantial detriment to adjoining proper-
ties would be created; that the difficulty cannot be obviated by
a method, feasible to appellants, other than a variance; that no
adverse effects will be produced on available governmental facili-
ties of any increased population; that the relief requested will
be in harmony with and promote the general purposes of the zoning
code; and that the interests of justice will be served by allowing
the variance.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Goehringer, it was
RESOLVED, that the variance . tb . the . zoning ordinance, Appeal
No. 2854, application of Michael A. LoGrande be granted .as applied.
Location of Property: East side of Stillwater Avenue,
Cutchogue, NY; County Tax Map Parcel Item No. 1000-136-2-4 .
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Messrs. Doyen, Douglass, Goeh-
ringer, Sawicki and Grigonis.
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PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2855. Application of Richard
Posselt, 23 Fairmont Street, Huntington, NY 11743, for a Variance
to the Zoning Ordinance, Art. III, Sec. 100-31 for approval of an
insufficient rearyard setback for new dwelling at 3145 Ole Jule Lane,
Mattituck, NY; bounded north by Allsopp, west by Ole Jule Lane,
south by Ole Jule Lane, east by Battersby; County Tax Map Item No.
1000-122-5-18.
The Chairman opened the hearing at 7:25 p.m. by reading the
legal notice of hearing and the application.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone here to speak for this? Would
you mind speaking into the mic so we can pick it up?
RICHARD POSSEZT: I have the maps here if you'd like to take a
look at them. The setback map.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Yeah, if we could.
RICHARD POSSELT: What I'd like to do -is take, this is what the
surveyor gave me. Now, this isn't right. I'd just like to take this
house and turn it this way. That would give me enough room.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Any problem with the advertising, Linda?
SECRETARY: No, I just need to know how much the setbacks are
going to be.
MR. CHAIRMAN: How much is the setback--
RICHARD POSSELT: You see, if, because it' s not defined as a
corner lot, if the house is this way I don't have enough rear yard.
But if I take the house and twist it length-wise so the property,
then I'll have enough front and side.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Where would your front yard then be? Still the
same thing?
RICHARD POSSELT: Well, no. I would take the house and the
frontyard would be up this way, and the rearyard would, or just
cock it, you know, enough so that I could get it in there.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Then you wouldn't need a variance probably.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Well, I think you would probably on that.
J MR. CHAIRMAN: Yeah, I see, yeah.
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MR. POSSELT: Yeah, because I have, see, because of this
curve.. See? This isn't defined as a corner, so. if I could
either position the house this way, back and front, or just
cock it just enough somehow.
SECRETARY TO CHAIRMAN: We have advertised it for rearyard
and that would be sideyard.
MR. POSSELT: I think if you turn it this way, you' ll have
enough on the side.
MR. CHAIRMAN: But the legal notice read the other way, so
now we have a little problem with readvertising. Maybe. we' ll
just recess this, and if you .can come back with your actual
where you' re going to be, . and get your actual footages in.
MR. POSSELT: You see, I didn't--when they surveyed this,
he says, "Where do you want to put the house?" And I said,
"Well, I don' t know. I' ll leave it up to you. " Because I
wasn' t sure, you know? I didn't know what kind of a problem
I was going to have. But he put it like this, and I definite-
ly don' t want it like this anyway. I got 15 feet here. So,
I was thinking if they could re-define this as a corner I
would be able to turn the house, twist it. right around, then
I would have- enough on the sides and enough on the front. You
have 186 feet here and 100 this way. Now, this house is 30 by
50 , but I'm not going to put in a 30 by 50-foot house. It
would be 28. by 34 with a patio off the kitchen side of it.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: We have as we just mentioned the prob-
lem with what.we :call advertising because we advertised it for
something other than what you want. Possibly what we can do is,
can we reserve decision-- recess decision with a date, two weeks,
and then would you come back with it sketched in so that we can
re-advertise it properly next week?
MR. POSSELT: Oh, all right. Just take one of these maps
that I have and re-sketch the house on here?
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: And then it has to be taken back to
the building -inspector because it needs. another "disapproval. "
MR. POSSELT: Will I have to fill out all the papers again?
MR. BATTERSBY: Mr. Chairman, may I interrupt?
MR. CHAIRMAN: Yes.
MR. . BATTERSBY: My name is Battersby. I'm here to object
to this variance. Certainly I would like to present some papers.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Well, as soon as we finish up with him. Do
you have anything else you want to say, Mr. Posselt?
MR. POSSELT: No. That' s all.
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MR. BATTERSBY: This -is the property in question. This
is my home. I bought this based on this letter from the Town
of Southold, assuring me of privacy.
. . .August 28, 1964
Termini & Siegel Builders
Hampton Bays, NY
ATTN: Alexander Termini
Dear Sir: . . . Enclosed please find building permit for
Mrzilek as requested.
Please be advised that the former owner of this lot
(Lethen) appears to have left himself an undersized lot
which will be unusable and unsaleable. At some future
time he may wish to make an adjustment with Mrzilek to
take back- some of this lot in order to get the required
area for his remaining parcel.
Yours truly,
/s/ Howard Terry, Building Inspector. . . .
MR. POSSELT: Can I see that?
MR. CHAIRMAN: Sure. Anybody can. If it' s going to
be entered, it is public record.
MR. CHAIRMAN: We' ll recess this until September 17th,
by that time maybe you can get more figures.
MR. POSSELT: Now, what does this mean for me?
MR. BATTERSBY: I would also like to see that plans to
see .how it encroaches, if it does encroach on my property, or
where the cesspools plan to be and so on.
MR. CHAIRMAN: This is the survey I understand -that he
just told us that the surveyor said the house was this way
and he doesn't want it this way. He wants the house set in
here.
MR. POSSELT: This is your house. This is your piece of
property. He, the surveyor, put the house in here. I don't
want the house that way. I want the house to turn this way.
This came from the Department of Health. Here' s the cesspools.
Here' s the well. Now that has to conform with everybody
around me, but I don't want the house this way. It' s too close
to your property. I just want to take it, move it off this
line and twist it this way, so it would be front and back.
MR. BATTERSBY: In other words, parallel with my house.
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MR. BATTERSBY: Well, as I say, I bought this house based
on that letter from the Town of Southold. That' s the only way
that I would have privacy there. I will not have privacy with
another house along side of me.
MR. POSSELT: Now what does this mean for me?
MR. BATTERSBY: You can have a legal action against your
realtor, that' s what this means.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Well, we' ll go over and check it out,
check out that letter and see how ( not understandable ) .
MR. POSSELT: But even if this, excuse me, even if this
is an undersized lot, these are all undersized lots. Everybody ' s
that is in here has undersized lots. And -.-.
MR. BATTERSBY: I have not.
MR. POSSELT: And they don't have the setbacks either.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Can I ask you a question? How do you
pronounce your last name? Posselt. Did you get a Certificate of
Occupancy for a single and separate lot when you bought this
piece of property. I'm sure your attorney must have applied for
it.
MR. POSSELT: I'm not really certain what I .have on. this.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Because that would then denote that the
lot would be buildable, you see. And that is the matter in ques-
tion that this gentleman is raising.
MR. POSSELT : I don't understand this letter that he has.
MR. CHAIRMAN: It' s .the first time I've ever seen it.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: I don't think we can explain it. It
goes back to a prior building inspector who retired in 1978 .
MR. POSSELT: Yeah, but this letter says that the lot is
undersized. Isn' t that how it explains it? They are all under-
sized.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Anything less than an acre today is
undersized. It does not mean that it is not buildable. Speci-
fically. As I said to you, it would be to your advantage to
see if when you did buy this piece of property that your attor-
ney secured a single and separate, excuse me, a C/O for the lot.
MR. POSSELT: You know, I talked to Mr. Fisher (building
inspector) about this. I don' t know if he is here or not--no.
Because I explained this situation, and, I 'm trying to think
of the words. I can' t really recall. But he said, I said,
you know, if the realtor had told me there was going to be this
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(Mr. Posselt continued: )
problem, I would not have bought the property. And he says,
"Well, even if the realtor said that there was a problem, if
you had come to me, " he said, he would have issued-- I don't
know what they issue, I think he said he would issue some-
thing that it was a buildable lot.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: That' s exactly what I told you--
a C/O fora .single and separate lot.
MR. POSSELT: Well, I don't know if we got that. But he
said he would have issued it. So then I would have bought
the lot with this thing here, and then I still would have ran
into problems.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Did you purchase the lot or are you
in contract?
MR. POSSELT: No, no. I bought it last year free and
clear and paid for it cash. You know, I can'-t take any of
this sitting down. That's a good chunk of money.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Well, we're going to check this out, dig
into all the angles of it, and bring it up at the next meeting.
And you'll bring in the sketch showing just where you want to
change the house location, and where your sideyards, how far
they are going to be from each line.
MR. POSSELT: When do I .have to come back?
MR. CHAIRMAN: As soon as possible.
MR. POSSELT: With the sketch?
MR. CHAIRMAN:. Yes.
MR. POSSELT: Who do I give the sketch to?
MR. CHAIRMAN: Building Department.
MR. BATTERSBY: Do I understand that you are completely
ignoring this letter from the Town of Southold?
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Absolutely not.
MR. CHAIRMAN: No, no. We are going to check it out and
see just what he meant by it. Because at that time in 1964
20 ,000 was a legal size. Some of the others down there are
too.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: I think it was 12,500 -- I believe.
MR. CHAIRMAN: It might have been. Yeah.
MR. POSSELT: My property is 161 by 90. Your property
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MR. POSSELT continued :
is less square footage than mine. I have over 16 ,000 square
feet.
MR. BATTERSBY: My property is less?
MR. POSSELT: Well , according to this. It says 161 by
90. Mine is 186 by 100-- That' s what this says. Mine is
over 16 ,000 . If it' s not figured maybe yours is the same
size.
MR. BATTERSBY: They are all set at 20 ,000 .
MR. POSSELT : Let me ask you this. If you had a preference
how would you want that house put on the lot?
MR. BATTERSBY: My preference is no house there.
MR. CHAIRMAN: All righty. We' ll recess this -- I' ll
offer a resolution to recess this until September 17th, 1981.
MR. POSSELT : Am I going to get anything in the mail on
this?
SECRETARY: Yes, you will get a letter.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Excuse me. What's your name, sir?
MR. BATTERSBY: Battersby.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Mr. Battersby, when we get the sketch
from this gentleman here, what. our suggestion would be to come
down and take a look at the file.
MR. BATTERSBY: I' live in Islip. I can't run back. and
forth just to look at a sketch.
SECRETARY: You may call the office and check to see if
it is available, and if it' s available we can send you up a
copy.
MR. BATTERSBY: I say that, you call me at my office.
How often would I keep .calling then?
MEMBER DOYEN: It will be available in the office. .. , If
you unfortunately can't come by to come and see it, then that
is. your problem. It doesn't seem that you even want to cooper-
ate to. settle the matter.
MR. BATTERSBY: There has been no attempt to settle it.
I have presented a letter there. And all right, you people,
are going to check that letter out to see the validity of it.
MR. POSSELT: Can I have a copy of that letter?
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(Mr. Posselt was given a copy of Howard Terry' s 8/28/64
letter.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: I ' ll second that resolution.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Goehringer, it
was
RESOLVED, to recess Appeal No. 2855, application of Richard
Posselt until Thursday, September 17, 1981.
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Messrs. Grigonis , Douglass ,
Goehringer, Doyen and Sawicki.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2857. Application of Demetrios
and Joanne Joannides, 60 Central Drive, Mattituck, NY for a
Variance to the Zoning Ordinance, Art. III, Section 100-31 for
permission to construct deck/addition to dwelling with an insuffi-
cient frontyard setback at 60 Central Drive, (a/k/a 3905 Break-
water Road) , Mattituck, .NY; bounded north by Nolan; west by
Tsounis; south by Central Drive; east by Luthers Road; County Tax
Map Item No. 1000-106-3-17 ; (further known as Cpt. Kidd Estates
Map No. 1672, Subd. Lot No. 114) .
The Chairman opened the hearing at approximately 7 :43 p.m.
and read the legal notice of hearing in its entirety and appeal
application.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have anything else to add to this?
JOANNE JOANNIDES.: I am Joanne, and would like the; deck.
MR. CHAIRMAN: We were down there, and we took a look at
it -- I guess you were aware of it, and on the front you're
planning to come right up even with the steps leading up to
your front door, side door rather I guess .it is.
MRS. JOANNIDES: The way the house is situated, we will
try to put it next to the driveway. So there is the kitchen--
to take the food around, and we would like to be out in the
country here, and we outside a lot, and we like to built the
deck.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Is anyone else to speak for this? Anyone
to speak against it? (None) No question from any of the
board members? I' ll offer a resolution reserving decision
and closing the hearing.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Douglass, it
was
RESOLVED, to close the hearing and reserve decision in the
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matter of Appeal No. 2857, application of Demetrios and Joanne
Joannides.
Vote of the. Board: Ayes : Grigonis, Doyen, Douglass,
Goehringer and Sawicki.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2858. Application of Harry P.
Fagan, Jr. , and wife, 400 Betts Street, Cutchogue, NY for a
Variance to the Zoning Ordinance, Art. III, Sec. 100-31 for
permission to construct addition with an insufficient rearyard
setback at 400 Betts Street, Cutchogue, NY; bounded north by
Dunn; west by Betts Street; south by Williams; east by Weiss;
County Tax Map Parcel 1000-110-6-9.
The Chairman opened the hearing at approximately 7 :48 p.m.
and read the legal notice of hearing in its entirety and appeal
application.
MR.. CHAIRMAN.: Do you .have anything you would like to add
at this time?
MR. FAGAN: I have nothing. to add.
MR. CHAIRMAN Thank you. Is there anyone else to speak
for it? Anyone here in opposition to this appeal? (None)
He actually seeks a, do you know actually how clos.e. y.ou are
coming to the rearyard line?
MR. FAGAN: Existing right now I believe is 37 or 38,
something like that. And the eight-foot addition would make
it 30 .
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: That'w what we measured to the wood
pile, if you remember. 30 .
MR. FAGAN: Yes. You were the gentleman that measured it.
MR. CHAIRMAN: All right. Thank you.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: I ' ll make a resolution to approve this
variance as applied for.
MEMBER SAWICKI seconded.
(The findings and determination are continued on page 13)
Southold Town Board of Appeals -13- September 3 , 1981 Regular
Meeting
(Appeal No. 2858 - Harry P. Fagan, Jr. and wife, continued: )
The Board made the following findings and determination:
Appellants by this appeal seek a variance to the zoning- ordi-
nance, Article III, Section 100-31 and Bulk Schedule, for permis-
sion to construct an 8 ' by 16 ' addition at the southwesterly
corner of the existing one-story frame house, leaving an insuffi-
cient rearyard setback from the westerly property line of approxi-
mately 25 feet. The subject premises is a corner lot as defined
by Section 100-34 of the code and the remaining side yard will
have maintained a 12 foot setback from the southerly property
line. The Board finds that the nature of the location of the
existing dwelling lends itself to the practical difficulties
of the applicant for expansion of the structure. The Board
agrees with the reasoning of the applicants.
In considering this appeal, the Board determines that the
variance request is not substantial; that the circumstances herein
are unique and the practical difficulties have been shown; that by
allowing the variance no substantial detriment to adjoining proper-
ties would be created; that the difficulty cannot be obviated by
a method, feasible to appellants, other than a variance; that no
adverse effects will be produced on available governmental facili-
ties of any increased population; that the relief requested will
be in harmony with and promote the general purposes of the zoning
code; and that the interests of justice will be served by allowing
the variance.
On motion by Mr. Goehringer, seconded by Mr. Sawicki, it was
RESOLVED, that Harry P. Fagan, Jr. be granted a variance to
the zoning ordinance as applied for in Appeal No. 2858.
Location of Property: 400 Betts Street, Cutchogue, NY;
County Tax Map Parcel Item No. 1000-110-6-9.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Doyen, Douglass, Goehringer,
Sawicki and Grigonis .
This resolution was unanimously adopted.
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PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2859. Application of Thomas
and Phyllis Maus, 6 Michele Terrace, Massapequa Park, NY 11762,
for a Variance for approval. of access, New York Town Law,
Section 280-a. Location of. Property: 480 Oakwood Drive,
(a/k/a 505 Lake Side Drive North) , Southold, NY; bounded
north by Wood Drive; west by Clear View Road; south by Lake
Side Drive; east by Haskins; County Tax Map Parcel No. 1000-
90-4-3, (further known as Cedar Beach Park Map No. 90 , Subd.
Lot No. 67) .
The Chairman opened the hearing at 7 :51 p.m. and read
the legal notice. of hearing in its entirety and appeal appli-
cation.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Is there anything that you would like to
add .to this?
MR. MAUS: Only . if you have any .questions.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Which way would you want an approved access,
which way would you like to come into it? You've got a choice
here, about three different ways.
MR. MAUS: Oakwood Drive.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Oakwood Drive, I guess probably you're
most direct off Beach Road. Is there anyone else to speak for
this; anyone to speak against it? (None) Do you .know who owns
any of those roads in there?
MR. MAUS: It belongs to the Cedar Beach Association.
MEMBER SAWICKI : All of them are private roads?
MR. MAUS: Yes.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Anyone else have any questions? (None)
MR. CHAIRMAN: I ' ll offer a resolution approving this
with an access over Oak Wood Drive according .to the spec ' s
set up, which maybe I think you' ll have to work out with the
association, whatever has to be done on it.,
MRS. MAUS: We do know, my husband' s parents live there
and we do know a lot of people who lived there and I don't
think it .would be any problem.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: I ' ll second it.
(continued on Page 15)
Southold Town Board of Appeals -15- September 3 , 1981
(Appeal No. 2859 - Thomas and Phyllis Maus continued: )
The Board made the following findings and determination:
Appellants by this appeal seeks approval of access pursuant
to New York Town Law, Section 280-a along Oak Wood Drive in
the major subdivision of "Cedar Beach Park, Map No. 90 , " for
the subject premises known as Subdivision Lot No.. 67, County Tax
Map District 1000 , Section 90 , Block 4 , Lot 3 . The premises in
question is vacant, and fronts along Lakeside Drive approximately
132 feet, Clear View Road 190 feet, and Oak Wood Drive 200 feet.
In considering this appeal, the Board determines that the
variance request is not .substantial; , that the circumstances
herein are unique and the practical difficulties have been shown;
that the grant of the variance would not produce a substantial
detriment to adjoining properties; that the difficulty cannot be
obviated .by a method, feasible to the appellants:, other than a
variance; that no adverse effects will be produced on available
governmental facilities of any increased population; that the
relief requested will be in harmony with and promote the general
purposes of the zoning code and town law; and in view of the
manner of which the difficulty arose, the interests of justice
will be served by allowing the variance.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Goehringer it was
RESOLVED, that Thomas and ,Phyllis .Maus be granted a variance
to New Yohk -Town Law, - Section -280-a for approval of ac_c_ ess, -SUBJECT
TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS:
1. Such access road shall have a width of not less than
15 feet.
2. Such access road shall be cleared of all trees, brush
and other obstructions to a .width of 15 feet.
3 . Such access road shall be improved in EITHER of the
following two methods :
(a) Surfaced with a minimum depth of four inches of
packed three-quarter-inch stone blend so as to afford access for
emergency vehicles. Such stone blend may be either applied to
the ground surface and shaped, or the surface may be excavated
to permit the application of packed blend to a depth of four
inches, OR
(b) Shall have topsoil removed to a .depth of eight
inches and then filled with eight inches of a good grade stone
and sand bank run. The surface shall then be covered with a
layer of two to four inches of three-quarter inch stone blend,
or in the alternative, oiled with a minimum of four-tenths of
a gallon of road oil per square yard.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -16- September 3, 1981
(Appeal No. 2859 - Thomas and Phyllis Maus continued)
4 . No building permit and./or certificate of occupancy shall
be issued for the -construction of any buildings or structures on
the premises to which this access is referred until all of the
conditions set forth herein have been complied .with.
5. Where the terrain of the land over which such access
road is traversed is such that drainage problems may occur,
the applicant shall be required to construct such drainage
facilities as may be recommended by the Town Engineer.
6. That the access road be approved by the Town Engineer,
Building Inspector and/or Board of. Appeals as to meeting the
above requirements.
Location of Property: 480 Oakewood Drive (a,/k/a 505 Lake
Side Drive North) , Southold, NY; County Tax Map Parcel Item
No. -1000-90-4-3 ; Cedar Beach Park Subdivision Map 90, Subdivi-
sion Lot 67.
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Messrs. Doyen, Douglass, Goeh-
ringer, Sawicki and Grigonis.
This resolution was unanimously adopted.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2860. Application- of James
Genovese, 620 Lake Drive, Southold, NY for a Variance to the
Zoning Ordinance, Art. III, Sec. 100-31 for permission to con-
struct deck/addition to dwelling known as 6.20 Lake Drive, Southold,
NY; bounded north, west, south by Dechiaro; east by Lake Drive;
County Tax Map Parcel 1000-59-1-22.
The Chairman opened the hearing at approximately 7 :58 p.m.
and read the legal notice of hearing in its entirety and appeal
application.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Is there anything you would like to add?
MR. GENOVESE: I did .have a variance in a few years ago,
and it was ok' ed by the board at that time; however, the numbers
were not correct as far as we. measured from the road, rather than
from the monuments -- and it was ok' ed with those other measure-
ments, so I don't know. And this is the second time around.
MR. CHAIRMAN: The note says that it is attached, but I
don 't see the previous application. What was that, for the same
sort of a thing?
MR. GENOVESE: Preexisting deck. We had an addition to the
house, and at that point we didn't have the deck, but now this
should just follow on to that existing deck.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -17- September 3, 1981
MR. CHAIRMAN: Would you come up here and show us--
we've got a couple of lines, and one of them has a squiggle.
We wonder if that' s the one that' s been changed for some
reason for another.
MR. GENOVESE: This is the existing house. We built
this addition onto it, and if you notice it' s on an angle
to conform with the street line. Now when. we go along, it
isn't wide enough to put a table and stuff up- there, and
will come up onto the deck. This was the old existing deck
with the old house there, and this is an old survey.
MEMBER SAWICKI: Is that going up to your garage doors,
or past them?
MR. GENOVESE: My garage is down underneath.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Oh, this is the garage doors now,
. right here. All you want to add on is this piece right here?
MR. GENOVESE: Right. My driveway is in here. And that
goes down into here. And here' s the measurements that were
wrong when I went for the permit. When we started to build,
we determined that- the monuments weren' t the road, and I
wasn 't aware at that time, back in three years ago I guess,
or four years ago at .the point when this was put in.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: So you want to come within 14 feet
of the road now? Is that what that thing is there?
MR. GENOVESE: That was the deck and building point.
And that's no more. than what was across the street. And
also the other house,. the other two or three houses down
going south and east that are on the Lake. There are no
houses on my side.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Right.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Ok. Thank you. Anyone else to speak
for this?, Anyone to speak against it? Any other questions
from any of the members? (None) I' ll offer a resolution
closing the hearing and reserving decision until we get this ,
now that we find out everything, we' ll be able to go from
there much better.
MEMBER DOUGLASS . seconded.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Douglass, it was
RESOLVED, to close the hearing and reserve decision in the
matter of Appeal No. 2860 , application of James Genovese.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -18- September 3, 1981
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Grigonis, Doyen, Douglass,
Goehringer and Sawicki.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2866 . Application of Jon C.
Kerbs., 510 Main Street, Greenport, NY for a Variance to the
Zoning Ordinance, Art. III, Sec. 100-31 for approval of
insufficient area and width of parcels in a proposed sub-
division, and for permission to relocate building with insuf-
ficient yard setbacks, with yard determination on proposed
lot adjoining Stillwater Avenue. Location of Property:
Pequash Avenue, Cutchogue, NY; bounded north and west by
Fleet; south by Fleet Neck Road; east by Jezek; County Tax
Map Parcel Nos. 1000-137-2-8, 18, and 19 .
The Chairman opened the hearing at approximately 8 :08
p.m. and read the legal notice of hearing in its entirety
and appeal application.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have anything more to add to this?
(Mr. Kerbs nodded no. )
MR. CHAIRMAN: Jon, do you know what the width is across
the back of that, the length rather of that--
JON KERBS: Excuse me Charlie?
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you know what the length of that lot
4 is, up on Stillwater?
MEMBER DOUGLASS: That one is a little smaller than the
other two, right?
MR. KERBS: It should be the same. The way we looked
at it is, I got Van Tuyl' s survey, and he says the whole
thing is 1. 7 acres. So 1. 7 acres -- and he said that' s
correct. So that' s what I did, I said, "Ok. Across the
front we had 78 three times. " So they're 78-foot lots,
and then come back 237. So it' s 78 by 237 is like 18,500 ,
about 18 ,408, something like that. So then. I said, "Well,
what we 've got here is 233 approximately. We've got over
80 there, like 85 wide there, and 60 wide there. " And
if you take an average of 70 - 75 by this width it comes
out about the same. If you take this, and this, and this,
and subtract it. from 1. 7 acres, that comes up with 18 ,500 .
Actually that' s how I got the dimension of how far back to
go, by dividing the ' l. 7 .acres by four. Whatever square feet
that would be, and then came up with this. I think it' s
right. I certainly wouldn' t swear to it.
If VanTuyl is right, and it' s 1. 7 acres, four goes
into 1. 7 acres --
Southold Town Board of Appeals -19- September 3, 1981
(Appeal No. 2866 - Jon C. Kerbs, continued: )
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: It came out to about 14 ,000. I
was 40 ,000--.
MR. KERBS: 43, 560 times 1. 7 is 74 , 000 , divided by four,
is 18 ,513. So if you had 18.;500 , 18,500 and 18,500 , this
one has got to be 18 ,500.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Let' s go back on this one. .You've
got 85 on that, 85, 89--
MR. KERBS: This actually shows -- I said roughly, you
know, say 89, --
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: I've got 60 over here that you gave me--
MR. KERBS: That' s 65 according to this.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: All right. I ' ll recalculate that.
By 230. That comes to about 17,710 .
MR. KERBS: That' s possible.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: That' s by taking both sides and adding
them togather after multiplying, and then dividing by two,
which is the normal way that they do it-.
MR. KERBS : I would say in that range, but, what did you
say it came to?
MR. JEZEK: Well I'm not good at this, but I figured
17, 556 square feet.
MR. KERBS: It hasn' t had the final survey, so that' s,
I mean, I wouldn't absolutely say that it' s, it might not be
off by 1,000 square feet.
MR. JEZEK: Well how are you going to move that old house.
That thing is going to fall apart on you.
MR. KERBS: Well, not if you rebuild that front wall
first.
MR. JEZEK: That house should be wrecked.
MR. KERBS: Ok. The story, the way I look at it, the
house is there and if we:_own it, we 're not going to--
MR. JEZEK: You own the property?
MR. KERBZ : No. We're only under a contract to buy it
is. the idea. Ok? I would think that it would- be better to
have that house moved and fix it up, put it in the back
there and everybody own their own house. Because the way
Southold Town Board of Appeals -20- September 3, 1981
(Appeal No. 2866 - Jon C. Kerbs, continued: )
Mr. Kerbs continued:
it is now, whoever buys that, if you can't subdivide it,
somebody is going to be renting all those houses, and--
MR. JEZEK: Why can' t you make three nice lots,
rehabilitate the three houses? You' ll get plenty of money
out of that.
MR. KERBS: Yeah, but the point is, if you own the
property, you're not going to tear a house down. In other
words if you have a unit there you can use, I 'm not going
to tear it down. I'm not going to tear it down, nobody is
going to. They have to make use of it as a living unit
somewhere.
MR. JEZEK: That house was moved there from Route 25.
That was not. built .there.
MR. KERBS: That' s possible. I've got no idea, really
what the history is. I 'm just looking at the way things
generally are in the area. And I would think that it would
improve the area. That land goes way back into those woods
there, and that' s where that other lot would be. Take that
house and get it right out of the way, clean it up nice,
and you could have a nicer situation. But if it' s denied
this way; the house is going to stay there and somebody is
going to rent it and they're going to live in it.
MR. JEZEK: That house has been condemned.
MR. KERBS: I 'm not sure, but I would think that some-
one could go in there, and if it is condemned I don't know.
MR. JEZEK: It was condemned 11 or 12 years ago. I
don't think anybody has been. living in there for 12 years.
MR. KERBS: But you can still renovate it. And if it' s
condemned and you want to renovate it, and then--
MR. JEZEK: It will probably affect my water supply. I
believe the water supply is defective or something. That
was the reason--
MR. KERBS: That' s the matter of driving wells, which
everybody does every day.
MR. CHAIRMAN: If .any.thing. .happens there, it has to--
MR. JEZEK: Then you are going to affect my water supply.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -21- September 3, 1981
(Appeal No. 2866 - Jon C.. Kerbs, continued: )
MR. CHAIRMAN: Ariythng....that happens. there is going to
have to be approved by the Board of Health.
MR. JEZEK: Now, last year you disapproved, what' s his
name over here--the electrician. I can't .think of his name.
Now he has over two . acres and you didn't allow him to sub-
divide. Now here' s with less than two acres . a.nd you' re
willing to subdivide into four lots.
MRi: KERBS: Well there are houses on it already. I
think that' s the big difference.
MR. CHAIRMAN: This has been there. This has been
there a. long, long time. Preexisting.:- And these lots will
be a lot bigger than most of the other lots around in there.
If it. goes through. Anything else anyone has. to say on this?
MR. JEZEK: Well, I think House No. 4 should be destroyed
completely, and make three nice lots and rehabilitate those
three, the other three houses.
MR. KERBS: But what if I came along and said, "I don't
like your garage. I think you're garage ought to be taken
down. "
MR.. JEZEK_. It' s because it' s a new garage; it' s not
falling apart like that house.
MR. KERBS: But as I say, it' s there.
MR. JEZEK: If my garage was like that house, I would
agree with you.
MR. KERBS: Yeah, but what I'm saying is, if. it'.s there,
I mean, I don't see where you have any right to tell someone
they have to tear it down.
MR. JEZEK: Isn!'t there a town law about dangerous
buildings?
MR. CHAIRMAN.: It has nothing to—do with this hearing
right now. So I' ll offer a resolution closing the hearing
and reserving decision.
MEMBER SAWICKI seconded.
MR. KERBS : I have a question, too, still on those lots.
MR. CHAIRMAN: All right.
MR. KERBS: In looking at this and trying to decide if
it is allowed that. we can do it and we can move this house,
Southold Town Board of .Appeals -22- September 31 1981
(Appeal No. 2866 - .Jon C. Kerbs, continued: )
Mr. Kerbs continued:
there was. some questi.on .as to where .it could be located. The
building department has a couple of interpretations _as to
what should be a frontyard and what should .be a sideyard.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Well, when we were checking through this,
Jon, Sketch No. 1 would be the proper one.
MR. KERBS: Ok. Sketch One would be? . All right. Fine.
The only reason I bring the point up is , if it did go through
these dimensions here, . I'm not exact, it hasn't been surveyed
as you know. And if we had to move the house one foot or
two feet or something like that, trying to get around, because
there was a rock or tree there or something, .is there some
way it could be taken into consideration. That may not be
the exact spot, because looking at it that way, that' s going
to. need the sideyard requirements. Or maybe after it' s done
I could just, if the numbers weren' t quite right or something,
just get a number--
MR. -CHAIRMAN: Well, when you get your survey done, Jon,
then you' ll know definitely.
MR. KERBS: Ok. But, you see, what I was getting at,
was this one gave me room :•to...work.awith, but if this is what
it is , that' s what it is. When. the times comes, we' ll worry
about it. Ok. Thank you.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis , seconded by Mr. Sawicki, it
was
RESOLVED, to close the hearing and reserve decision in
the matter .of Appeal No.. 2866 , Jon C. Kerbs.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Grigonis, Doyen, Douglass,
Goehringer and Sawicki.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal. No. 2862. Application of Mary
Ray, 375 Factory Avenue, Mattituck, NY for a Variance to the
Zoning Ordinance, Art. III, Sec. 100-31 and .100-36 for .per-
mission to construct carport/addition .wi.th insufficient
sideyard and rearyard setbacks at 375 Factory Avenue, Matti-
tuck; . bounded north by Francis; west by Bergen; south by
Mills; east by Factory Avenue; County Tax Map Parcel No.
1000-122-6-6 .
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Southold Town Board of Appeals -23- September 3, 1981
(Appeal No. 2862 - Mary Ray, continued: )
The Chairman opened the hearing at approximately 8 : 27
p.m. and read the legal notice of hearing in its entirety
and appeal application.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone here to speak for this?
ABIGAIL WICKHAM, ESQ. : I 'm representing Mary Ray, and
I would just like to repeat what was in the application/ad
add a few things. This house is located right across fao
the entrance to the A & P on the side of Factory Avenue, and.
the house is a very attractive house and the yard is nice, too.
However the house is set way back, and there really isn't room
to get any garage in the backyard where it would normally be.
Also, there' s not much room on the side of the house next to
the kitchen where the carport was put up. So it was'Inecessary
in order to construct it properly with the proper supports to
go up to about one foot . from the property line. There is a
hedge, quite. a tall hedge higher than the carport that runs
all the way down. that northerly property line and screens the
carport from::.the .carport, from the neighbor on that side.
Also, that neighbor' s house is up towards the front of the
road and into the back next to the carport, and if you look
from the neighbor' s house, all you would see is the roof line
of the carport. It' s not like you' re looking at a solid
structure that would be much more noticeable. I also notice
that there is only one small window in the back of the neigh-
bor.' s house, and that' s covered up on the bottom with an
airconditioner and the shades pulled down on the top, so I
don't think that they really are going to be affected by it.
None of the other properties around are affected by the
appearance of this. And she does need some kind of .shelter
for her automobile, and that' s why this is constructed.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Thank you, Gail. Is there anyone else
to speak for it? Anyone in objection? (None) Any of the
board members .have any questions to ask Mrs. Wickham?
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Does Mrs. Ray, Mrs. Wickham, have
any objection to a restriction being put on this carport to
the effect that it is . always to remain as a carport and never
to be enclosed? Because of its proximity to the north line?
MRS. WICKHAM: Never to be enclosed on the north side,
do you mean?
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Well, entirely be made a room out
it, like the rooms on the other side.
MRS . WICKHAM: Oh, I see what you mean. No, I don't think
she would really would object to that. The only thing, I have
not discussed it with her -- but I can see where it possibly,
in the back, I don't know if there is any wind that comes in
f through there, maybe just to put up some kind of partition, but
Southold Town Board of Appeals -24- September 3, 1981
(Appeal No. 2862 - Mary Ray, continued: )
certainly . it' s not to be.- enclosed in terms of any kind of
living area in that garage. I don' t think she would have
any objection to that.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Thank you.
MR. 'CHAIRMAN: Anyone else? Bob?
MEMBER> DOUGLASSt No, I have no questions.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: I' 11. make a motion to approve this
application. with the following conditions: That the carport
which is the subject. of this variance :remain as a carport not
to be enclosed or to be used as any portion-af.::.this dwelling,
other than for the purpose of a carport.
MX..`.'.CHAIRMAN: I ' ll second that.
(Continued on Page 25)
Southold Town Board of Appeals -25- September 3, 1981
(Appeal No. 2862 - Mary Ray continued: )
The Board made the following findings and determination:
Appellant by. this appeal seeks approval of the construction
of a carport addition approximately one foot from the northerly
sideyard property line. and. approximately 29 feet from the rear-
yard property line. The Board finds that the carport addi-
tion has been existing for more than four years. Existing on
the subject premises are a one-family one-story frame house
and two small sheds in the rear yard. The premises contains
an area of approximately 20 ,250 square feet and has frontage
along Factory Avenue of 110 . 34 feet' .a's- .shown on Roderick Van-
Tuyl's survey of. July 22 , 1981.
In considering this appeal, the Board determines that the
variance request is not substantial.; that the circumstances
herein are unique and the practical difficulties have been shown;
that the grant of the variance would not produce a substantial
detriment to adjoining properties; that the difficulty cannot be
obviated by a method, feasibl.e. to. the appellants., other than a
variance; that no adverse effects will be produced on available
governmental facilities of any increased population; that the
relief requested will be in harmony with and promote the general
purposes of the. zoning code:
On motion by Mr. Goehringer, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it was
RESOLVED, that Mary Ray be granted a variance to the zoning
ordinance for carport addition applied for in Appeal No. 2862,
SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITION:
That the carport not be enclosed or be used for any purpose
other than a carport.
Location of Property: 375 Factory Avenue, Mattituck, NY;
County . Tax Map Parcel Item No. 1000-122-6-6 .
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Doyen, Douglass, Goeh-
ringer, Sawicki and Grigonis.
This resolution was unanimously adopted.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -26-. September 3, 1981
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2864 - Gladys G. Bayles,
c/o Flower. Hill' Building Corp. as agent, Cutchogue, NY for
a Variance ,to the Zoning Ordinance, Art. III, Sec.. 100-30A
for permission to. construct addition and convert building
with guest room to dwelling use. Location of Property:
Smith Road (private) at Nassau. Point, . Cutchogue, NY; bounded
north by. Ahrens, Smith Road and Cook, west, south and east
by the Bay;. County Tax Map Item No. 1000-119-1-1.4 (further
known as Nassau Point Subdivision Map No. 156 , Lot A) .
The Chairman opened the hearing at approximately 8 :,35
p.m.. and .read the legal notice of hearing in its entirety
and appeal application.
MR. CHAIRMAN: . Is there anything you would like to add,
Mr. Lark?
RICHARD F. LARK, ESQ. : Yes, good evening. On behalf
of my client, we're here because the building inspector_ denied
the application of the petitioner in moderniz.ing-.expanding-the
board As aware in viewing the property., the existing„guest
cottage/garage facility, . becau.se it contains a kitchen area. .
If it didn't contain a. kitchen area, which it does , _we wouldn' t
be. here because it .would still be .construed as .an accessory
use. But since it has both the kitchen and bathroom facilities
as well as ,a building area,. it's under the zoning ordinance,
the building inspector has interpreted as it as a separate
dwelling unit, even though the use would continue the same_.
Therefore, the board will have. to look at and make findings
as to whether. a strict application of the ordinance will re-
sult in practical difficulties. As you are aware the courts
have defined just what .practical difficulties are and in ,mak-
ing the determination the board will have to,_ consider how
substantial the variance. is in relation with . . the require-
ments of th-
e zoning ordinance, the effect. if the variance is
allowed on the increased population density .which would
produce on the available governmental facilities, whether
substantial change will be produced on the character of the
neighborhood or substantial detriment to adjoining properties
and whether the difficulties can be obviated .by some other
method other than a variance, and whether in. vie.w of the
manner ,in. which the difficulty arose and a consideration of
all. the factors,, the, interests of justice will be served by
granting the variance.
I want to say at the outset that when the applicant
brought this problem to me after conferring with the .build-
ing inspector, I concurred with the building inspector and
also the Chairman of the. Planning Board", because it seemed
to me at the outset, since we have 5. 45 acres and where. the
property was.,, a minor subdivision can b.e. created where we
could have two lots, so one where the main dwelling is and
the other one where the accessory structure is now. The
guest cottage which would be expanded would. be expanded
would be. Now the Planning Board chairman informed me that
Southold Town Board of Appeals -27- September 3, 1981
(Appeal No. 2864 - Gladys G. Bayles , continued: )
MR. LARK continued:
although this could be done we could create two lots, he
didn't. foresee any problems with that. It was his opinion
that this would not serve either the Bayles Family or the
spirit of the ordinance because then in effect we would
have two lots down there. The owners do have no intentions
of any- type of a sale. They're going to use it as they
have always used . it, as a guest storage area-garage complex.
Right now the grandchildren use it primarily the weekends
and during the summer, during recess from school, although
they, he occupies the main house, which by the way he. is
also modernizing and updating which they already have the
permits to do.
Now so after considering it again and going back and
talking -to the applicant, it was decided and conferring as
I said with the Chairman of the Planning Board, it was
thought that the. best way to handle it and preserve the
spirit of the zoning ordinance would be to ask for a
variance to create or to allow the two houses on the one
lot. It is no subdivision here. It would have to go and
remain as one .parcelIsituation, and namely because as I
said because of the use of the property and its ' loca.tion,
and. for the other reasons as I stated forth in the appli-
cation.
Also, although there would be no difficulties from
a legal point of view creating a subdivision there becomes
several practical difficulties. If' you had a subdivision,
the main house lot which would be the most southerly lot
would have to have an easement over the other lot due to
the configuration. . You're right on the end of Nassau
Point,_ ,as you are all aware of. That would be one problem
right off the bat.
The other problem . is where would you draw the lot line
which,_ because you wouldn't want to necessarily., there' s
enough room -there, but where would you draw it for the side
yards between the two places. That was another-- we
ended up with more:--'practical problems- by doing it that way.
And so; as I said he felt that the best way to do it would
- be to: .apply to. the _Board of Appeals to obtain a .variance
rather than go through the subdivision process because, you
know, the practical difficulties.
Also keep. in. mind . that we're not creating two lots here
even though we have five acres, we're not creating two
building lots.
The well will continue will continue to serve as it
does today, both places, and the cesspools will continue -to
serve .both places. So you're not getting a situation where
Southold Town Board of Appeals -28- September 3, 1981
(.Appeal No. 2864 — Gladys G. Bayles, continued: )
MR. LARK continued:
you're having two independent lots. So as I say, keeping
that in mind and the strictly residential character of
Nassau Point, it was felt to apply for a variance.
Now, let' s look at the facts that the board will have
to consider. How substantial is the variance in relation-
ship to the requirements. . The requirement says only one
dwelling •on one lot in an A-Residential & Agricultural
District, which is what this is. And in order to have a
residence on a lot, a lot is defined as 40 ,000 square feet.
So here we have 5. 45 acres, or 237,400 square feet, ,so ..I
don 't .think that the requirement . that we're asking for a
variance. is very substantial as would be. if you had a much
smaller .property hemmed in by other properties. So I
think that' s an important factor.
The other, the effect of the variance (' allowed on
the increased population density produced on other avail-
able governmental facilities. Keep in. mind we're not
. creating two lots. or a two-family situation. It' s still
going to remain as just two dwellings on one lot. We
have several other situations in the town where we have
that, so you don't have like two independent situations
there, which you. would. have with two. lots. And the owners
don't want that. They are just going .to continue to use
it like they have. So there will be no increase in the
population density, and as. I say, keepiin mind the guest
cottage there today does contain one bedroom, a bathroom,
and a.• garage facility.. The expansion as you saw on the
plans will contain the same bedroom and enlarged bathroom
and living area•, and also it will have a kitchenette
facility with a toilet facility attached off to it, and
then the garage area. So there isn't going to be any
increase in .the bedrooms or that, just the living area
size of the house.
:And whether there would be, , another one, a substantial
change will be produced in the character of the neighborhood
or substantial detriment to adjoining properties._ As you
see from .the map, the applicant also owns property. to the
north. there, other property, which acts as* :a buffer, and
then for another five-acre piece as a matter of fact, which
is split by the driveway going in and out. You have. that
as a buffer and then you have just the two houses, and don:.t
forget you have the isolation of this being at the tip of
Nassau Point. So we don't feel there will be any change at
all in the neighborhoods.
I covered with you whether the difficulties can be
obviated by some other method. A:.subdivision, although it
can be done legally, could create more problems than it' s
Southold Town Board of Appeals -29- September 3, 1981
(Appeal No. 2864 - Gladys: G. Bayles, continued: )
MR. LARK continued:
possibly worth, and the applicant is not interested in that.-
The other thing that interestingly could be done, . but
it would be an architectural disaster, if the builder de-
cided to put the addition on the southerly portion of the
house of the guest cottage,, it would probably hook onto the
main dwelling, and you could end up with just one dwelling
there. , But even though it would have separate entrances
but architectually and aesthetically looking at the area it
would,although it' s a. way out .of the dilemna of expanding
it and keeping one .house. . You can have more than several
kitchens in one structure. It would be an architectural
mess. And so, that' s why it was laid out .the way you have
it in the. plans. _
And then the .last .:factor, in view of the manner in
which it arose -- it as I said has been there since 1936,
and � the use has been .there since . 136 and it' s just a modern-
ization, updating it if you would, and with an expansion to
make it more comfortable .for .the owners and .his children and
grandchildren.
And, taking all the factors into consideration, I _think
the granting of the variance is the best way to obviate the
practical difficulty..of this.
If the board has any questions , I' ll be glad to answer
them.
MEMBER. GOEHRINGER: I was wondering, Mr. Lark -- is it
Mrs. Bayles?
MR. LARK: . Mrs. Bayles, that' s the legal ,ownership in
the Estate. She has passed away. It' s her husband actually
the owner.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Is there any .problem with Mr. Bayles
livinq..with the restriction of it never being rented?
MR. LARK: That' s no problem. You mean with the acces-
sory building, in other words the one _that-- there' s no
question about that. In fact you can put another one with
it being subdivided, because the intent is not to subdivide,
because I went through that already, is figuring the way out
and the owner. said., "No, I don' t want a subdivision there.
So, that is no problem. Because it' s strictly a family-use
situation.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Anyone else to speak for this?
✓ MR. EVERETT: I represent the Nassau Point Property
Southold Town Board of Appeals -30- September 3, 1981
(Appeal No. 2864 - Gladys G. Bayles, continued:)
Owners Association, and we have gone on record as ( . ) opposing
two houses on one lot. This .has, we do this with regret as
far as the Bayleses are concerned. . We recognize everything
that Walter Uhl has said, but. I think that' s for the now and
we don' t know what' s going to happen in`.the _future. We feel
that putting two houses on one lot is a .further step towards
jeopardizing an .already precarious water supply. We are
r..apidly' ap.proaching the maximum number of houses .on the Point
that will be permitted- by the Suffolk County::.Board.: of .Health.
They have set that figure at. 35..0 , com se, com sa a few, and
we are already over 300. Now we. have .consistently opposed
this type of construction of placing two houses on one lot.
We feel that in this case, I understand the. situation, I am
in sympathy with it, and but we're still speaking for the. now.
As .far. as that particular thing, is. concerned. What' s going
to happen tomorrow, if Mr. Bayles passes -away and the
property passes into other hands, and the other lots are
subdivided by the new .owner, then we're -going to have that
two-house on one lot. situation and a house on every one of-
the other five acres.,, you see. These are .the possibilities
we have to face, and it' s for this reason .that we must
support .the building department objections, and withhold
your approval.
MR. CHAIRMAN: I'm sorry, I `met you the other day but I .
can't remember your name. -
MR.. EVERETT: My name is Everett. I.'m a Vice President
o.f. the Association. W.P. Everett.
MR. CHAIRMAN: There' s a letter in the file here from
Mr. Gardner.
MR. EVERETT: He' s ex-President. Ted- Bruce is presently
President.
MR. CHAIRMAN: , I talked with him the other day at the
office. Ok, thank you very much. Anyone else to speak
against this (None) If not, I 'll close the hearing and
reserve- decision until. a little later.
On motion -by Mr. Grigonis, .seconded by Mr. Goehringer, .
it was
RESOLVED, to close the hearing and reserve decision .in
the. matter of Gladys G. Bayles,. Appeal No. 2864 .
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Grigonis, , Doyen, Douglass,
Goehringer and Sawicki.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2861. Application of
Donald J. Finnerty, 1530 Fleetwood Road, Cutchogue, NY for
a Variance to the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, . Section
Southold Town Board of Appeals -31- September 3,1981
(Appeal No. 2861 - Donald J. Finnerty, continued: )
100-31. for permission to construct addition to accessory
building in the frontyard area, located at" 1530 Fleetwood
Road and Betts Street, Cutchogue, NY; bounded north by
Hansen, west by Betts -Street, south by Samios, east by
Fleetwood Road; County Tax Map Item No. 1000-137-5-11 and 12.
The Chairman opened the hearing at approximately 8 :55
p.m. and. read the legal notice of hearing in its entirety
and appeal application.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Did you have anything further to add?
MR. FINNERTY: What we're doing is putting the boat and
trailer under cover instead of being out in the wooded portion
of the lot. It is very wooded with our-.many small oaks and
some- very large oak trees there. With that, I understand I
wouldn't have any problems if I put the shed attached, you
know, as . an extension to the garage on the side but I would
need to take down two oak trees about 40 feet tall. It' s
about 66 feet from Betts Street. It' s sheltered by the wooded
lot. . It would probably look better with the boat under the
shed.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Thank you. Anyone else to speak for
it? Anyone opposed to it? Any questions from any of the
members? (None)
On motion by Mr. Grigonis,. seconded by Mr. Douglass, it
was
RESOLVED, to close the hearing and reserve decision in
the matter of Appeal No. 2861, Donald J. Finnerty.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Grigonis, Doyen,
Douglass, Goehringer and Sawicki.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2872 . Application of William
and Ann Zoldessy, 1560 Pelham Parkway, Bronx, NY 10461, for a
Variance to the Zoning Ordinance, Art. III , Sec. 100-31 for
approval of insufficient area and width of two proposed par-
cels, located at the south side of Bergen Avenue, Mattituck;
bounded north by Bergen Avenue; .west by Vallely; . south by
Lindsay; east by Russell; County Tax Map Parcel 1000-113-7-
4 . 1.
The Chairman opened the hearing at approximately 9:05
p.m. , read the appeal application and related documents;
mentioned the letter from the Town Clerk indicating that
notification to adjoining property owners was made and fee
paid $15. 00.
,
Southold Town Board of Appeals -32- September 3, 1981
(Appeal No. 2872, William and Ann Zoldessy, continued: )
MR. CHAIRMAN: We have a photocopy of survey of 7/12/63
and copy of the County-_-Tax Map showing this property and the
surrounding area. Is there anyone that would like to speak
in favor of this application?
MR. ZOLDESSY: It' s the dream of the lifetime, and I
was completely taken unaware by the�,.fact that it had been
rezoned from the two lots into one, and that it would just
kill me financially and otherwise. I respectfully submit
that without causing any'difficulties to have it as origin-
ally planned into two lots. As a matter of fact, Mr.
Valley is it, next door to me, approached me already hope-
fully to purchase it because I intent building one lot away
from there. I want to be next to Mr. Lindsay, so there' s
another alternative too. I don' t intend to cause any dis
ruption of the area in any way whatsoever. It' s the dream
of a lifetime. I want to come out and spend .my final years
here. I know lots of people. I love it here. My sister-
in-law, and I 'm practically .a._._native. . My children .were here
since they were small.
MR. CHAIRMAN: All right. Thank you. . Is there anyone
else. that wants to speak for this? Anyone to speak against
it? Any questions from any of the board members? (None. )
I' ll offer a resolution closing the hearing and reserving
decision until a little later.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Goehringer,
it was
RESOLVED, to close the hearing and reserve decision
until a little later in the matter of Appeal No. 2872,
application of William and Ann Zoldessy.
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Messrs. Grigonis, Doyen,
Goehringer, ..Douglass, and Sawicki.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2873. Application of Sonny
Brown, Box 473, Madison Avenue, Greenport, NY for a Variance
to the Zoning Ordinance, Art. XI, Sec. 100-1.18D for permission
to use existing building as an automobile repair shop (and/or
reestablish preexisting use to permit use as an automobile
repair shop) , at 73225 Main Road, Greenport; bounded north by
Village of Greenport; west .by Wardowski; south by Main Road;
east by Rutkowski; County Tax. Map Parcel 1000-45-3-part of 2.
The Chairman opened the hearing at approximately 9:18
p.m. , read . the appeal application and related documents;
mentioned the letter from the Town Clerk indicating that
notification to adjoining property owners was made and fee
paid $15 00 .
Southold Town Board of Appeals -33- September 3 , 1981
(Appeal No. 2873, Sonny Brown, continued: )
MR. CHAIRMAN: We have photocopies of a survey of the
property and copy of the County Tax Map showing this and the
surrounding properties. Is there anything you wanted to add,
Mr. Brown? (Nothing added) Anyone else to speak for it?
Anyone against it? (There was no response. ) I' ll make a
motion closing the hearing and reserving decision.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by .Mr. Goehringer,
it was
RESOLVED, to close the hearing and reserve decision in
the matter of Appeal No. 2873 , application of Sonny Brown.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Grigonis, Doyen,
Douglass, Goehringer and Sawicki.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2871. Application of Anthony G.
Nowachek and Helen M. Nowachek, P.O. Box 355, Cutchogue, NY for
a Variance. to the Zoning Ordinance: (a) to construct deck/addi-
tion to dwelling with an insufficient frontyard setback pursuant
to Article III, Section 10.0-31; or (b) determining this improve-
ment not to be an addition to-the .existing structure under the
ordinances. Location of Property: Corner of. Pequash Avenue and
Fleetwood Road, Cutchogue, NY bounded north by .Fleetwood Road;
west by Pequash Avenue; south by Goldsmith; east by Schroder;
Ravatone Realty Corp. Subdivision Map No. 539; Section I, Subdi-
vision Lots No. 45 and :northerly half. of 44 ; County Tax Map
Item No. 1000-110-4-1.
The Chairman opened the hearing at approximately
p.m. , read the appeal application and related documents;
mentioned the letter from the Town Clerk indicating that
notification to adjoining property owners was made and fee
paid $15. 00 .
MR. CHAIRMAN: We have a copy of the survey with the
proposed additions sketched in and copy of the County Tax
Map. Is there anyone here wishing to speak for this application?
MR. NOWACHEK: Iim Mr. Nowachek and this is my wife, Helen.
I think it' s all her fault that I'm here with this thing. But
I' ll try to explain to you why. . When I bought this house, coming
from Port Washington, we intend .to come out here permanently, all
this is transition. But I checked the;,C.::of' O on the building and
I got a violation because two stoops in the back were floating
away. There was no way we could . get into the two back doors. So
my wife decided the best way to remedy that you couldn't put
shrubbery or anything -- was to get a deck. So we did get the
deck up; we got a permit; we got a C of O for it. But if you
look at the survey and see that the side of the house that is
on Fleetwood Road is about 30 feet, ok? At its furthest point
Southold Town Board of Appeals -34- September 3, 1981
(Appeal No. 2871, Anthony G. and Helen Nowachek, continued: )
MR. NOWACHEK continued :
because it' s at an angle, about 30 feet from Fleetwood Road,
at its narrowest point it' s about. 25 feet from Fleetwood Road.
Now that side of the house looks like a barn side, really.
It' s got cinderblock underneath. It' s really rough soil,
looks like something was backfilled. And the breakfast room
windows are the triple track, we got to pull them down and
there is one kitchen window. And I didn't know whether it
would be a structure, what to call it, but my wife suggested
and I went along with her that since the deck ended at that
corner, we should have a parapet or a walk so you could just
go to the left along side the, house, that would be about, up
to six feet wide. So you can have access to the windows, and
I wouldn' t have to concern myself with a" lot of foliage,
leaves and snow and everything piling up at that side of the
house. Now I think the objection of the building inspector
and when I spoke to him was that I would have to get a vari-
ance because it is a structure, even if at its highest point
it would only be about two feet off the ground, 2z, and the
lowest point would only be like a foot. So if you could
visualize that this is the back of the house, and this is the .
side, it would just be a walkway around it. It wouldn't even
be a sitting area, 6 feet, and the building inspector also
said that they have to consider it a structure and the setback
thing because my neighbor down the street is set back just a
bit further that I am. Well looking at his front stoop, if
he ever wanted to put up a deck, you know, something maybe
about 6 or 7 feet wide, you know, in front of his house --
because he only has a little stairway with about three steps ,
he'd have to come out at least 6 , 7 or 8 feet. I basically
think aesthetically it will look good. It just doesn't look
like a side of a barn wall there. Secondly, I think my wife
would shoot me and -- really, I have to admit that the build-
ing inspector caught my. son who is back at college now in
his last year, he put in the footings and everything for it
when the violation came on it. So, I would say about 480
complete. I don't think in any it will be offensive or
interfere with traffic or really look burdensome in the
proximity. I think it will enhance the appearance on the
side of the house and be practical for use.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: I just wanted to say, upon inspection,
Mr. Nowachek, we did measure and line up the monuments to the
best of our ability. And I think we found it to be approxi-
mately eight feet deep toward the front of the house from the
actual property line. Now this is just on the inside of the
telephone pole. And either. 27 or 29 feet on the, I guess
that' s the rear part of the house, I don' t know. They 're
both facing up north I would assume.
MR. NOWACHEK: Well I didn' t measure it. I used Van
Tuyl ' s survey, and I think he indicated that it was 25 feet
if you look at it.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -35- September 3, 1981
(Appeal No. 2871, Anthony G. Nowachek and wife, continued: )
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: That's from the road.
MR. NOWACHEK: Oh from the road.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Yes, we 're going from the property
line.
MR. NOWACHEK. Oh, I see.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: We just wanted you to be aware of
that.
MR. NOWACHEK: I see.
MR. CHAIRMAN: VanTuyl has 25 in here.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: To the house.
MR. NOWACHEK: I think he used the markings, and I
called--
MEMBER DOUGLASS: That' s going to the house, right?
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Going to the house.
MR. NOWACHEK: Yes.
MEMBER DOUGLASS: And this man is adding six feet. So
our figures were right.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Yes.-.within a foot, I guess.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Any other questions?
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: You never intend it to be enclosed,
is that correct?
MR. NOWACHEK: Oh, no, sir. It' ll just. be continuous.
On inspection it' ll show that it ' s just a counterpart to the
left to what exists there is the deck on. the C of 0. And
that' s all it would ever be intended. As a matter of fact
there ' s a rail fence all along the property which I took
down and what we intend to do is sort of put up a small short
fence , which will be short in the front of the deck and I' ll
be able to maintain it to some degree.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Thank you.
MR. NOWACHEK: Thank you. You know what I want to say,
I 've been practicing law for about 29 years, throughout all
Nassau County, including some of the villages, and I have to
commend you for scheduling it in an efficient way and operating,
really.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Thank you.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -36- September 3, 1981
(Appeal No. 2871 - Anthony G. Nowachek continued)
The Board- made the following findings and determination:
Appellants by this appeal seek: (a) permission to construct
deck/addition to dwelling with an insufficient frontyard setback
off Fleetwood Road of approximately 18 feet from its nearest
point from the property line [rather than 22 as indicated in
applicant' s appeal application] , and (b) determination that this
improvement is not an addition to existing structure.
The premises in question is a corner lot as defined by the
zoning code .and .contains an existing one-family, one-story
frame house with setback off Fleetwood Road of 25 feet as
shown on Roderick Van Tuyl, P.C. survey dated December 6 , 1978
submitted with this appeal application. Upon inspection of
these premises, the Board has found the additio.n..which: is the
subject. of this variance has been completed,. and upon measuring
the distance from the nearest point between the addition and
the front property line, the setback is approximately 18' feet.
The Board also has found that the height from ground level at
the highest grade (northwest corner) is approximately one foot
and the height from ground level at the lowest grade (northeast
corner.) is approximately. 22 feet. The .Board does not agree
with applicant's reasoning that the subject construction is
not to be considered a structure but merely a walkway and
do. affirm..__the: Building '.Inspector' s determination that same
is an addition under the town ordinances.
In.-cons,ider.ing this- appeal, the Board determines that the
variance -request is- not substantial; that- the circumstances
herein are unique and the practical difficulties have been shown;
that the grant of the variance would not produce a substantial
detriment to adjoining properties; that the difficulty cannot be
obviated by a method, feasible to the appellants, other than a
variance; that no adverse effects will be produced on available
governmental facilities of any increased population; that the
relief requested will be in harmony with and promote the general
purposes of the zoning code; - and-. that in -view of_ the_
manner of which the difficulty arose, the interests of justice
will be served by allowing the variance.
On motion by Mr. Douglass, seconded by Mr. Sawicki, it was
RESOLVED, that Anthony-G. Nowachek be granted permission to
construct deck/addition to dwelling with an- insufficient front-
yard setback as applied for, SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITION:.
That the deck is not to be enclosed.
Location of Property: Corner of Pequash Avenue and Fleetwood
Road, Cutchogue, NY; . County .Tax Map Parcel Item No. 1000-110-4-1.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Doyen, Douglass, Goeh-
ringer, Sawicki and Grigonis.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -37- September 3 , 1981
RESERVED DECISION: Appeal No. 2840. Upon application of
David L. Mudd, North Road, Southold, New York for a Variance to
the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section 100-30A,& C, 100-32
for permission to construct accessory shed with insufficient
side and rear yard setbacks at property located on .the north
side of C.R. 48 , Southold, NY; bounded north by Lieblein; west
by Doroski; south by C.R. 48; east by Morris, Aliano. and. Latham;
County Tax Map Item No. 1000-59-9-28.
The foll6wing ,are the findings and determination of the Board:
Appellant by this appeal seeks a variance to Article III,
Section 100-30A & C and Section 100-32 of the zoning code .to
permit a storage building on. his premises with reduced setback
requirements. Appellant previously applied for the same relief
which was denied by the Board (Appeal No. 2789) .
An inspection of the premises and an examination of records
in the Building Inspector' s Office discloses the .following:
Appellant is the owner of a parcel of land located.. on the north
side of County Road 48 (formerly County Route 27.) . at Southold,
having an area of approximately 23 acres of agricultural land
upon which appellant planted grapes and fruit. trees. In the
past several months, appellant constructed a concrete foundation
and placed thereon a wood frame building moved from another
location. No building permit was obtained for such construction..
As indicated by the map filed with the appeal, the structure is
located 5.4 feet from the north boundary line and 4 . 6 feet from
the east boundary line, and the structure is 60 feet long and
30 feet wide. The previous appeal was denied for failure to '
demonstrate practical difficulties.
In the present appeal, it is urged that .the structure should
be considered to be an accessory building rather than a principal
•building, and thus may be located three feet from .any lot line
pursuant to Section 100-32 .of the zoning. code. Appellant proposes
to use the structure to store agricultural trucks, vehicles and
equipment utilized in the operation of his fruit orchard and
vineyard on the remainder of the property. If the structure is
to be deemed a principal building, it must be a minimum.of .15 feet
from the side lot line (east line) and 50 feet from the rear lot
line (north line) .
Appellant in his appeal, asserts that he has demonstrated
practical difficulties in that to relocate the building would
require the removal of productive grapevines.
Section 100-30 A (2) (.a) of the zoning code allows as a
permitted use "vineyards and orchard farming. " Paragraph (d)
[which is part of subsection (2) and which relates to agricul-
tural uses] permits the following: "Barns, storage buildings
,
Southold Town Board of Appeals -38- September 3, 1981
(David L. Mudd .Decision continued: )
and other related structures, provided. that. such buildings
shall conform to the yard requirements for pr..incipal. buildings. "
By virtue of these provisions of the code., it is clear that
barns, storage buildings and other related .structures must con-
form to the yard requirements of principal buildings whether or
not they may be characterized as accessory buildings.
In considering this appeal, the Board determines that the
variance request in relation to the code requirements is sub-
stantial. A 60% reduction in the side yard requirement and an
89% reduction in the rearyard requirement. That .the grant of
the variance would produce a substantial detriment to adjoining
residential properties. That the difficulty can be obviated by
some method, feasible to the appellant, other than a variance.
That in view of the manner in which the difficulty. arose, the
interests of Justice will not be served by allowing. the variance.
The Board further determines that the appellant has not demon-
strated practical difficulties.
Accordingly, on motion by Mr. Grigonis, . seconded by Mr.
Douglass, the appeal is dismissed.
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Messrs. Doyen, Douglass, Goeh-
ringer, Sawicki and Grigonis.
Motion was made by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Douglass,
and duly carried, to approve the Minutes of the August 2.6 , 1981
Special Meeting of this .board. This resolution was unanimously
adopted.
APPEAL NO. 2863. SOUTHOLD MARINE CENTER HOLDING CORP.
The Secretary was instructed to inquire of the N.Y.S. D.E.C.
as to whether this proposed project will require approvals from
their agency.
Motion was made by Mr. Grigonis , seconded by Mr. Douglass,
and duly carried, to set Thursday, September 17, 1981 at the
date for the next regular meeting of this board to be held at the
Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, NY 11971 commencing at 7 :15 p.m.
J
Southold Town Board of Appeals -39- September 3, 1981
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Sawicki, it was
RESOLVED, to schedule and advertise in the local and official
newspapers the following matters for public hearings to be held
at the next regular meeting of this board, to wit, September 17 ,
1981:
7 :15 p.m. James V. Righter Architects for Jeremiah Bogert.
Approval of access at F. I.
7 :20 p.m. Patricia A. Bailey. Leslie Road and East Side of
Bay Avenue, Cutchogue. Insufficient area for
Parcel No. 2; insufficient road frontage for
proposed Parcel No. 3.
7 :30 p.m. Southold Marine Center Land Holding Corp. S/s Route
25 , Southold: (1) insufficient buildable upland
area; (2) proposed easterly lot will have existing
buildings with insufficient sideyards. C-Light Zone.
7 :40 p.m. John J. Lee. Off-premises advertising sign. A-Zone.
7 :45 p.m. Southold Town Republican Committee. N. Aliano prop-
erty, N/s C.R. 48 , Southold. Off-premises sign.
7 :50 p.m. Southold Town Republican -Committee. Gatz Property.
S/s Sound Avenue, Laurel. Off-premises sign.
7 :55 p.m. Southold Town Republican Committee. Kousouros Prop-
erty, C.R. 48 and Sound Avenue, Mattituck. Off-
premises advertising sign. B-Zone.
7 :55 p.m. Southold Town Republican .Committee. Cron property,
Main Road, Cutchogue. B-1 Zone.
7.:55 p.m. Southold Town. Republican Committee. N. Aliano prop-
erty, S/s Route 25, Greenport. B-Zone.
7 :55 p.m. Southold Town Republican Committee. Soundview
Estates property, N/s Middle Road, Peconic. A-Zone.
8 :05 p.m. Matthew McKiernan. New dwelling with insufficient
frontydrd setback. E/end. bf Beachwood Lane, Southold.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Grigonis, Doyen,
Douglass, Goehringer and Sawicki.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -40- September 3 , 1981
RESERVED DECISION: Appeal No. 2848. Application of Donald C.
DeLalla,. P.O. Box 526 , Cutchogue, NY for a Special Exception to
the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section 100-30B (9) (a) for per-
mission to dock and moor two boats not owned and used by owner of
premises for his personal use between existing pilings at 5545
Skunk Lane, .Cutchogue, NY; bounded north by Timpson; west by
Baldwin' s Creek; south by Faraguna; east by Bay Avenue (Skunk
Lane) ; County Tax Map Item No. 1000-138-2-18.
A public hearing was held and closed on this matter on
August 6 , 1981.
The Board made the following findings and .determination:
Applicant has filed a Special Exception to the Zoning Ordi-
nance in accordance with Article III., Section 100-30B (9) (a) for
permission to dock and moor two boats not owned by himself at
premises located at Skunk Lane, Cutchogue and fronting Baldwin' s
(Mud) Creek. The Town Code permits boat docking, mooring or
accommodation of noncommercial boats for no more than two boats
other than those owned and used by- the owner of the premises for
h s. personal use. ._, Applicant is the owner of the premises in
question, and has stated during the public hearing-held August 6 ,
1981 that the mooring accommodates his own boat and two friends'
boats, 28-footer, 35.-footer and 28-footer, respectively. Appli-
cant has received approval from the Southold Town Trustees at a
regular meeting held October 2,_ 1979 " . . . to make a total of four
pilings at this location. . . " ; however at a regular meeting of the
Trustees held September 2 , 1981 the Board of Trustees state they
would have denied that application for the two additional pilings
(making a total of four) if they had known that it was to be used
by non-family individuals. It is the feeling .of this Board that
the purposes and intent of the Town Code is to allow the docking
and mooring of two boats not owned and used .by the owner of this
property by this application, provided compliance is met with all
rules and regulations applicable to such use.
In considering this appeal, the Board finds that the use
will not prevent the orderly and reasonable use of adjacent
properties or of properties in adjacent use districts; that
the use will not prevent the orderly and reasonable use of
permitted or legally established uses in the district wherein
this use is to be located, or of permitted or legally estab-
lished uses in adjacent use districts; that the safety, health,
welfare, comfort, convenience and order of the Town will not be
adversely affected by this proposed use and its location; and
that the use will be in harmony with and promote the general
purposes and intent of the code.
On motion by Mr. Goehringer, seconded by Mr. Doyen, it was
Southold Town Board of Appeals -41- September 3, 1981
(Appeal No. 2848 - Donald C. DeLalla continued: )
RESOLVED, that Donald C. DeLalla be granted a Special
Exception to the Zoning Ordinance, SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING
CONDITIONS :
(1) That no more than two boats other than his own are
permitted;
(2) Southold Town Planning Board site plan approval be
obtained pursuant to the Southold Town Code, Article III,
Section 100-30B (9) .
Location of Property: 554.5 Skunk Lane, Cutchogue, NY;
bounded north by Timpson; west by Baldwin' s Creek; south by
Faraguna; east by Bay Avenue (Skunk Lane) ; County Tax Map
Parcel Item No. 1000-138-2-18 .
Vote of. the Board: Ayes:.. Messrs. Doyen, Douglass,
Goehringer, Sawicki and Grigonis.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -42- September 3, 1981
RESERVED DECISION: Appeal No. 2864 . Application of
Gladys G. Bayles, c/o Flower Hill Building Corp. as agent,
Cutchogue, NY (by Richard F. Lark, Esq. ) for a Variance to
the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section 100-30A for permis-
sion to construct addition and convert building with guest
room to dwelling use. Location of Property: Smith Road
(private) , at Nassau Point, Cutchogue, NY; bounded north by
Ahrens, Smith Road and Cook; west, south and east by the bay;
County Tax Map Item No. .1000-119-1-14, (further known as
Nassau Point Subdivision Map No. 156 , Lot A) .
Appellant by this appeal seeks permission to alter and
increase the size at the northerly end of the one-story existing
garage/guest cottage for one-family dwelling use. Also existing
on the premises since prior to the zoning code is a one-family,
one-story frame dwelling with garage. The premises in question
contains an area of approximately 5.45 acres and together with
premises to the north also owned by appellant contains a total
acreage of approximately 10 . 3. Appellant wants to retain the
entire parcel for a one-family use using the existing garage/
guest cottage with proposed addition for use by house guests
and visitors in this neighborhood. The Board agrees with the
reasoning of appellant.
In considering this appeal, the Board determines that the
variance request in relation to the code requirements is not
substantial; that the circumstances herein are unique and prac-
tical difficulty has been shown; that the relief if granted will
not change the character of the neighborhood; .-.that-'
..if the.:'...relief
is. granted no adverse effects will be produced on available
governmental facilities of any increased population; and that
the interests of justice will be served by allowing the variance
subject to the conditions specified below.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis , seconded by Mr. Goehringer, it
was
RESOLVED, that a variance to the zoning ordinance,
Appeal No. 2864 , application of Gladys G. Bayles, for permission
to alter and increase the size of the existing one-story
garage/guest cottage for family and guest use be granted,
SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS:
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(Appeal No. 28641 Gladys G. Bayles continued) :
1. That the garage/guest cottage structure be used
. only for family and guest use;
2. That the garage/guest cottage structure may never be
rented;
3. That no other dwellings be permitted on the 5. 45-acre
parcel, more particularly described as follows:
BEGINNING at a point at the ordinary highwater mark
of Little Peconic Bay, said point .of beginning being South 79
18130" East, 389 . 51 feet from the southerly corner of Lot 82B
as shown on Amended Map A of Nassau Point and Map of Section B
of Nassau Point, Maps No. 156 and 745 respectively; FROM SAID
POINT OF BEGINNING running thence southerly along said highwater
mark as measured by the following four tie lines : (1) South
70 18 ' 30 " East 816 .68 feet, (2) .South 20 52150" East 298.38 feet;
(3) South 40 21 ' 20" West 197. 57 feet, (4) South 140 32140" West
191. 13 feet; THENCE northerly along ordinary highwater mark of
Great Peconic Bay as measured by the following four. tie lines :
(1) North 30 53 ' 20" West, 250 . 58 feet, (2) North 100 55140"
West, 501. 08 feet, (3) North 170 29 ' 30" West, 249..54 feet;
(4) North 2.7 20100 " West, 404 . 04 feet; THENCE along .land of
Bayles two courses as follows : [1] North 540 43 ' 00" East,
211. 95 feet and [2] North 780 42 ' 10" East, 146 .44 feet, to
the point or place of BEGINNING. Containing .5. 45 acres, more
or less.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Doyen, Douglass, Goeh-
ringer, Sawicki and Grigonis.
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Southold Town Board of Appeals -44- September 3 , 1981 Regular
Meeting
RESERVED DECISION: Appeal No. 2866 . Application of Jon C.
Kerbs, 510 Main Street, Greenport, NY for a Variance to the Zoning
Ordinance, Art. III, Section 100-31 for approval of insufficient
area and width of parcels in a proposed subdivision, and for per-
mission to relocate building with insufficient yard setbacks, with
yard determination on proposed lot adjoining Stillwater Avenue.
Location of Property: Pequash Avenue, Cutchogue, NY; bounded
north and west by Fleet; south by Fleet Neck Road; east by Jezek;
County Tax Map Items No. 1000-137-2-8 , 18, 19.
A public hearing was held earlier this evening and closed
concerning this matter.
The Board made the following findings and determination:
Appellant has appealed to this Board seeking a variance to
the zoning ordinance, Article III, Section 100-31, for: (1)
approval of insufficient area, approximately 18 ,500 , 18 ,500 ,
18,500 and 17,710 square feet and width of approximately 78, 78,
78 and 75 feet, . of proposed Lots 1, 2, 3 and 4 , respectively;
and (2) approval of the location of a house on proposed Lot 4
with a setback of approximately 40 feet from the northeasterly
property line,. approximately 50 feet from the northwesterly line,
and approximately 12 feet from the .southwesterly property line.
The premises in question is located north of Fleet Neck Road
and south of Stillwater Avenue, Cutchogue. Existing on the
premises are four buildings, one which appears to be habitable
and is said to be occupied for dwelling purposes, two of which
have been used for dwelling purposes but are in need of repairs,
and one of which is extremely delapidated, will require more
than 50% of structural improvements and which appellant proposes
to relocate onto proposed Lot 4 as indicated in the previous
paragraph hereof and in compliance with current State; County
and Town building regulations. The neighboring properties to
the east and west of the subject premises are generally smaller
in size and similar in character and shape. The Board recognizes
the practical difficulties in that by not allowing the variance
the property will be substantially larger than those generally
in the' neighborhood, and there are existing dwellings on these
Premises'..' .
In considering this appeal, the Board determines that the
variance request is not substantial; that the circumstances herein
are unique and the practical difficulties have been shown; that by
allowing the variance no substantial detriment to adjoining proper-
ties would be created; that the difficulty cannot be obviated by
a method, feasible to appellants, other than a variance; that no
adverse effects will be produced on available governmental facili-
ties of any increased population; that the relief requested will
be in harmony with and promote the general purposes of the zoning
code; and that the interests of justice will be served by allowing
the variance.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -45- September 3, 1981 Regular
Meeting
(Appeal No. 2866 - Jon C. Kerbs continued)
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Sawicki, it was
RESOLVED, that the application of Jon C. Kerbs be granted as
requested in Appeal No. 2866 and SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDI-
TIONS :
(1) That . applicant obtain approval from the Southold Town
Planning Board;
(2) That Sketch No. . 1, received by this Board on 8/24/81,
shall be used in determining the yard areas; [frontyard at
approximately 40 feet, approximately 50 feet from the north-
westerly line, and approximately 12 feet from the southwesterly
property line] .
Location of Property: Pequash. Avenue, Cutchogue, NY; County
Tax Map Parcels No. 1000-137-2-8, 18 , 19.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Doyen., Douglass, Sawicki
and Grigonis. Mr. Goehringer abstained.
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Southold Town Board of Appeals -46- September 3, 1981
RESERVED DECISION:. Appeal No. 2857. Application of Demetrios
and Joanne Joannides, 60 Central Drive, Mattituck, NY for a
Variance to the Zoning Ordinance, Art. III, Sec. 100-31 for per-
mission to construct deck/addition to dwelling with an insufficient
frontyard setback at 60 Central Drive (a/k/a 3905 Breakwater Road) ,
Mattituck, NY; bounded north by Nolan, west by Tsounis, south by
Central Drive, east by Luthers Road; County Tax Map Item No.
1000-106-3-17; further known .as Cpt. Kidd Estates Map 1672 , Subd.
Lot 114 .
A public hearing was held and closed earlier- this evening
concerning this appeal.
The Board made the following findings and .determination:
Appellants by this appeal seek a variance to the zoning ordi-
nance, Article III., Section 100-31 and Bulk Schedule, for permis-
sion to construct a deck addition eight feet into the frontyard
area from the front section of the house (not from the porch) ::
The existing front porch extends into the frontyard from the house
approximately seven feet. Applicants also propose the deck to
extend. into the sideyard area approximately 10 feet which .is per-
mitted under the rules and regulations of the zoning code. The
subject parcel is a corner lot as defined in Section 100-34 of
the code. The Board finds that the nature of the location of the
existing dwelling lends itself to the practical difficulties of
the applicants in the relief requested in this appeal. The Board
does agree with the reasoning of the applicants.
In considering this appeal, the Board determines that the
variance request is not substantial; that the circumstances herein
are unique and the practical difficulties have been shown; that by
allowing the variance no substantial detriment to adjoining proper-
ties would be created; that the difficulty cannot be obviated by
a method, feasible to appellants, other than a variance; that no
adverse effects will be produced on available governmental facili-
ties of any increased population; that the relief requested will
be in harmony with and promote the general purposes of the zoning
code; and that the interests of justice will be served by allowing
the variance.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Goehringer, it was
RESOLVED, that Demetrios and Joanne Joann.ides, be granted
permission to construct deck addition to dwelling SUBJECT TO
THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS:
(1) That the deck shall not exceed seven feet from the dwell-
ing into the frontyard (from the front of ..the. .house).;
(2) That the deck shall not be permitted to be enclosed.
Location of Property: 60 Central Drive (a/k/a 3905 Breakwater
Road) , Mattituck, NY; bounded north by Nolan, west by Tsounis,
south by Central Drive, east by Luthers Road; County Tax Map Item
Southold Town Board of Appeals -47- September 3 , 1981 Regular
Meeting
(Appeal No. 2857 - Demetrios and Joanne Joannides continued: )
No. 1000-106-3-17; further known as Captain Kidd' s Estates Map
No. 1672 , Subdivision Lot No. 114 .
Vote of the Board.: Ayes : Messrs. Doyen, Douglass, Goehringer,
Sawicki and Grigonis.
This resolution was unanimously adopted.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -48- September 3, 1981
RESERVED DECISION: Appeal No. 2861. Application of
Donald J. Finnerty, 1530 Fleetwood Road,. Cutchogue, .NY for
a Variance to the Zoning Ordinance, Art. III, Section 100-32
for permission to construct addition to accessory building
in the frontyard area located at 1530 Fleetwood Road and Betts
Street, Cutchogue, NY; bounded .north by Hansen, west by Betts
Street, south by Samios, east by Fleetwood Road; County Tax
Map Item No. 1000-137-5-11 & 12.
The Board made the following findings and determination:
By this appeal, appellant seeks a variance for permission
to construct a 9' by 20 ' addition to accessory building (garage)
which is located in the frontyard area with a .setback .off Betts
Street of approximately 651+ for storage of a small boat during
the winter months. Existing on the subject premises is the
small garage and one-family two-story frame house with porches.
The premises contains an area of approximately 21, 900 square
feet and has a minimum width on both Betts Street and Fleetwood
Road of 100 feet. The Board agrees with appellant' s reasoning
in this appeal.
The Board finds that the relief requested is not substantial
in relation to the zoning requirements of the town; that the
relief requested is within the spirit of the zoning ordinance;
that if the relief is. granted no adverse effects will be pro-
duced on available governmental facilities of any increased
population; that the relief if granted will not change the
character of the neighborhood; that the practical difficulties
are unique in these circumstances; and that the interests of
justice will be served by allowing the variance, with the
below-specified restriction.
On motion by Mr. Douglass, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it
was
RESOLVED, that Donald J. Finnerty be granted permission
to construct addition to accessory _building. in the frontyard
area, SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITION:
That at no time is the garage or addition to be converted
to habitable use (living quarters) .
Location of Property: 1530 Fleetwood Road and Betts
Street, Cutchogue, NY; County Tax Map Parcel Item Nos.
1000-137-5-11 and 12.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Doyen, Douglass, Goeh-
.ringer, Sawicki, and Grigonis.
This resolution was unanimously adopted.
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Southold Town Board of Appeals -49- September 3, 1981 Regular
Meeting
RESERVED DECISION: Appeal No. 2860.. Application of James
Genovese, 620 Lake Drive, - Southold, N.Y for a Variance to the Zoning
Ordinance, Art. III, Sec. 100-31 for permission to construct deck/
addition to dwelling known as 620 Lake Drive, Southold, NY; bounded
north, west, south by. Dechiaro, east by Lake Drive; County Tax Map
Item No. 1000-59-1-22 .
A public hearing was held- and closed earlier this evening
concerning this appeal.
The Board made the following findings and determination:
Appellant has appealed to this Board . seeking a variance to
the zoning ordinance, Article III, Section 100-31 in order to con-
struct a .deck addition to an existing dwelling at the southwest
corner with a setback from Lake Drive of approximately 14 feet.
The existing dwelling has attached thereto an 8-foot deck exten-
sion running parallel with the front of the house and along the
northeasterly side of the house. Appellant proposes to add a
13 ' by 8' deck at the southwesterly corner on an angle to the
house but running in line with the existing deck rather than
parallel to Lake Drive.
The lot in question contains an area of approximately 16 ,100
square feet and has road frontage along Lake. Drive of 107. 24 feet
as indicated on applicant' s survey dated August 22 , 1973.
It is the feeling of the Board that the nature of the loca-
tion of the existing dwelling lends. itself to the practical
difficulties of the appellant; however the Board does .not feel
that the deck addition should protrude forward of the existing
deck plus one foot (or nine. feet from the southwest corner of
the house) towards Lake Drive. The Board agrees with the reason-
ing of appellant for a frontyard setback of not less than 14 feet
at its nearest point for the proposed deck addition.
In considering this appeal , the Board determines that the
variance request is not substantial; that the circumstances herein
are unique and the practical difficulties have been shown; that by
allowing the variance no substantial detriment to adjoining proper-
ties would be created; that the difficulty cannot be obviated by
a method, feasible to appellants, other than a variance; that no
adverse effects will be produced on available governmental facili-
ties of any increased population; that the relief requested will
be in harmony with and promote the general purposes of the zoning
code; and that the interests of justice will be served by allowing
the variance.
On motion by Mr. Goehringer, seconded by Mr. Douglass, it was
RESOLVED, that James Genovese be granted permission to con-
struct deck addition to existing dwelling as applied for in
Appeal No. 2860 SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS:
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Meeting
(1) That the deck extension shall not exceed nine feet towards
Lake Drive from the southwest corner of the house;
(2) That the deck may not .be enclosed.
Location of Property: 620 Lake. Drive, Southold, .NY; bounded
north, west, and south by Dechiaro; east by Lake Drive; County Tax
Map Item No. 1000-59-1-22.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. .. Doyen, Douglass, Goeh-
ringer , Sawicki and Grigonis.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -51- September 3 , 1981 Regular
Meeting
RESERVED DECISION: Appeal No. 2872. Application of William
and Ann Zoldessy, 1560 Pelham Parkway, Bronx, NY 10461, for a
Variance to the Zoning Ordinance, Art. III, Sec. 100-31 for approval
of insufficient area and width of two proposed parcels, located at
the south side of Bergen Avenue, Matttuck; bounded north by Bergen
Avenue, west by Vallely, south by Lindsay, east by Russell; County
Tax Map Item No. 1000-113-7-4 . 1.
A public hearing was held. and closed earlier this evening
concerning this appeal.
The Board made the following findings and determination:
Appellants by this appeal seek a variance to the zoning ordi-
nance, Article III, Section 100-31 and Bulk Schedule for permis-
sion to re-separate-parcels and originally purchased. The subject
parcels as shown as two parcels on the County Tax Map (Lots 4 and
2. 2) , are assessed separately in the Tax Office, and conform with
the neighborhood as to character, size and shape, having 100 foot
frontage along Bergen Avenue and an area of approximately 20 ,000
square feet. The County Health Department in their correspondence
to this Board dated September 23 , 1981 state that they would
process these as .two--separate .tax parcels and there appears to
be a sufficient quantity of water, although the area has a history
of nitrate contamination. It is the opinion of this Board that
appellants will suffer significant economic injury by the appli-
cation of our zoning ordinance pertaining t_O area and width.
In considering this appeal, the Board determines that the
variance request is not substantial; that the circumstances herein
are unique and the practical difficulties have been shown; that by
allowing the variance no substantial detriment to adjoining proper-
ties would be created; that the difficulty cannot be obviated by
a method, feasible to appellants, other than a variance; that no
adverse effects will be produced on available governmental facili-
ties of any increased population; that the relief requested will
be in harmony with and promote the general purposes of the zoning
code; and that the interests of justice will be served by allowing
the variance.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Sawicki, it was
RESOLVED, that William and Ann .Zoldessy be granted a variance
to the zoning ordinance as applied for in Appeal No. 2872 , SUBJECT
TO THE FOLLOWING:
That applicants obtain. approval from the Southold Town Planning
Board concerning this proposed subdivision.
Location of Property: South Side of Bergen Avenue, Mattituck;
County Tax Map Parcels No. 1000-113-7-4 and 2. 2.
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(Appeal No. 2872 - William and Ann Zoldessy, continued:')
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Gri.gonis., Doyen,
Douglass, Goehringer and Sawicki.
ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION Appeal No. 2881. JEREMIAH BOGERT..
On motion by Mr. Grigonis , seconded -by -Mr. Sawicki,
it was
RESOLVED, to declare the following Negative Environmental
Declaration concerning the matter of Jeremiah Bogert• .
ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION:
Pursuant to Section 617. 13 of the.-N.Y.S. Department of
Environmental Conservation Act, Article 8 of the Environmental
Conservation Law, and Section 44-4 of the .Southold Town Code,
notice is hereby given that the Southold Town Board of Appeals
has determined that the subject project as proposed in this
appeal application is hereby classified as a Type II .Action;
not having a significant adverse effect upon the environment
for the following reason (s) : ,
An Environmental Assessment in the Short Form has been
submitted which indicates that no significant adverse effects
were likely to occur should this project be implemented as
planned.
This project is for approval of access to the subject
premises, pursuant to New York Town Law Section 280-A.
This declaration should not be considered a determination
made for any other department or agency which may also be in-
volvea, nor for any other project not covered 'by the subject
appeal application.
Location of Property: Clay Point Road, Fishers Island,
NY: County Tax Map Parcel 1000-3-1-8 and 9.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Douglass, Goehringer,
Doyen, Grigonis and Sawicki.
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ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION: Appeal No, 2846 . Application
of Patricia Bailey.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis , seconded by Mr. Sawicki,
it was
RESOLVED, to declare the following Negative Environmental
Declaration concerning the matter of Patricia 'Bailey:
ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION:
Pursuant to Section 617. 13 of the -N,Y. S. Department of
Environmental Conservation Act, Article 8 of the Environmental
Conservation Law, and Section 44-4 of the .Southold Town Code,
notice is hereby given that the Southold Town Board 'of Appeals
has determined that the subject project as proposed in this
appeal application is hereby classified as a Type II .Action,
not having a significant adverse effect tipon .-the environment
for the following reason (s) : ,
An Environmental Assessment in the Short Form has been
submitted which indicates that no significant adverse effects
were likely to occur should this project be implemented as
planned.
The property in question is not located .within 300 feet
of tidal wetlands.
This declaration should not be considered a determination
made for any other department or agency which may also be in-
volved, nor for any other project not covered by the subject
appeal application.
Location of Property: 2155 Skunk Lane, Cutchogue; County
Tax Map Parcel 1000-97-4-11, 12 and 17..
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Douglass, Goehringer,
Doyen, Grigonis and Sawicki.
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ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION: . Appeal No. 2863. Application
of Southold Marine Center Holding Corp.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis , seconded by *Mr. Sawicki,
it was
RESOLVED, to declare the following Negative Environmental
Declaration concerning the matter of Southold. Marine Center
Land Holding Corp. :
ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION:
Pursuant to Section 617. 13 of the N.Y.S. Department of
Environmental Conservation Act, Article 8 of the Environmental
Conservation Law, and Section 44-4 of the .Southold Town Code,
notice is hereby given that the Southold Town Board of Appeals
has determined that the subject project as proposed in this
appeal application is hereby classified -as a Type II .Action,
not having a significant adverse effect upon .the environment
for the following reason (s) : ,
An Environmental Assessment in the Short Form has been
submitted which indicates that no significant adverse effects
were likely to occur should this project be implemented as
planned.
This declaration should not be considered a determination
made for any other department or agency which may also be in-
volved, nor for any other project not covered by the subject
appeal application.
Location of Property: South side of Main Road (S.R. 25) ,
North side of Main Road, Southold; County Tax Map Parcels No.
1000-56-6-2 and 3 ; 1000-56-4-15.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Douglass, Goehringer,
Doyen, Grigonis and Sawicki.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -55- September 3, 1981
ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION: Appeal No.. 2865. Application
of John J. Lee.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis , seconded by Mr, - Sawicki,
it was
RESOLVED, to declare the following Negative Environmental
Declaration concerning the matter of John J. Lee:
ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION:
Pursuant to Section 617. 13 of the N.Y. S. Department of
Environmental Conservation Act, Article 8 of the Environmental
Conservation Law, and Section 44-4 of the .Southold Town Code,
notice is hereby given that, the Southold Town Board of Appeals
has determined that the subject project as proposed in this
appeal application is hereby classified as a Type II'.Action,
not having a significant adverse effect upon -the environment
for the following reason (s) : ,
An Environmental Assessment in the Short Form has been
submitted which indicates that no significant adverse effects
were likely to occur should this project be implemented. as
planned.
The premises in question is not located within 300' feet
of tidal wetlands area.
This declaration should not be considered a determination
made for any other department or agency which may also be in-
volved, nor for any other project not covered by the subject
appeal application.
Location of Property: North side of Main Road,
Southold (owner : H. Cardinal) ; County Tax Map Parcel No;
1000-56-2-1.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Douglass, Goehringer,
Doyen, Grigonis and Sawicki.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -56- September 3 , 1981
ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION: Appeal No. . 287a. Application
of Southold Town Republican Committee for an off-premises
advertising sign.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis , seconded by Mr. Sawicki,
it was
RESOLVED, to declare the following Negative Environmental
Declaration concerning the matter of the Southold -Town Repub-
lican Committee:
ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION:
Pursuant to Section 617. 13 of the N.Y.S. Department of
Environmental Conservation Act, Article 8 of the Environmental
Conservation Law, and Section 44-4 of the Southold Town Code,
notice is hereby given that the Southold Town Board of Appeals
has determined that the subject project .as proposed in this
appeal application is hereby classified as a Type II .Action,
not having a significant adverse effect upon the environment
for the following reason (s) : ,
An Environmental Assessment in the Short Form has been
submitted which indicates that no significant adverse effects
were likely to occur should this project be implemented as
planned.
The project in question is not located within 300 'feet
of tidal wetlands area.
This declaration should not be considered a determination
made for any other department or agency which may also be in-
volved, nor for any other project not covered by the subject
appeal application.
Location of Property: N/s Middle .Road. (C.R. 4'8) ,
Southold., NY; County Tax Map Parcel 1000- 59-9-30. 2.
Vote of the Board : Ayes: Messrs. Douglass, Goehringer,
Doyen, Grigonis and Sawicki.
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ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION: Appeal No. .2876 „ Application
of Southold Town Republican Committee for an off-premises
advertising sign.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis , seconded by Mr. Sawicki,
it was
RESOLVED, to declare the following Negative Environmental
Declaration concerning the matter of the Southold Town Repub-
lican Committee:
ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION:
Pursuant to Section 617. 13 of the N.Y.S. Department of
Environmental Conservation Act, Article 8 of the Environmental
Conservation Law, and Section 44-4 of the Southold Town Code,
notice is hereby given that the Southold Town Board of Appeals
has determined that the subject project as proposed in this
appeal application is hereby classified as a ape II .Action,
not having a significant adverse effect upon the environment
for the following reason (s) :
An Environmental Assessment in the Short Form has been
submitted which indicates that no significant adverse effects
were likely to occur should this project be implemented as
planned.
The premises 'in -question is not located near tidal wet-.
lands area.
This declaration should not be considered a determination
made for any other department or agency which may also be in-
volved, nor for any other project not covered by the subject
appeal application.
Location of Property: S/s Sound" Avenue, Laurel; County
Tax Map Parcel No. 1000-120-3-7.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Douglass, Goehringer,
Doyen, Grigonis and Sawicki.
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ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION: Appeal No: 2877 Application f of Southold Town Republican Committee for an off"premises
advertising sign.
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On motion by Mr. Grigonis , seconded by Mr.. Sawicki,
it was
RESOLVED, to declare the following Negative Environmental
Declaration concerning the matter of the Southold, -Town Repub-
lican Committee:
ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION:
Pursuant to Section 617. 13 of the N.Y. S. Department of
Environmental Conservation Act, Article 8 of the Environmental
Conservation Law, and Section 44-4 of the Southold Town Code,
notice is hereby given that the Southold Town Board of Appeals
has determined that the subject project ,as proposed in this
appeal application is hereby classified as a Type II .Action,
not having a significant adverse effect upon the environment
for the following reason (s) : ,
An Environmental Assessment in the Short Form has been
submitted which indicates that no significant adverse effects
were likely to occur should this project be implemented as
planned.
The project in question is not located within 300 feet
of tidal wetlands area.
This declaration should not be considered a determination
made for any other department or agency which may also be in-
volved, nor for any other project not covered by the subject
appeal application.
Location of Property: N/s Middle Road, Peconic, NY:
CTMP #1000-74-2-12. 2.
Vote of the Board : Ayes: Messrs. Douglass, Goehringer,
Doyen, Grigonis and Sawicki.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -59- September 3 , 1981
S.
-ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION: Appeal No. 2878, Application
of Southold Town Republican Committee for an off-,premises
advertising sign.
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f On motion by Mr. Grigonis , seconded by Mr. Sawicki,
it was
RESOLVED, to declare the following Negative Environmental
Declaration concerning the matter of the Southold Town Repub-
lican Committee:
ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION:
Pursuant to Section 617. 13 of the-N.Y.S. Department of
Environmental Conservation Act, Article 8 of the Environmental
Conservation Law, and Section 44-4 of the Southold Town Code,
notice is hereby given that the Southold Town Board o'f Appeals
has determined that the subject project ,as proposed in this
appeal application is hereby classified as a Type II .Action,
not having a significant adverse effect upon the environment
for the following reason (s) : ,
An Environmental Assessment in the Short Form has been
submitted which indicates that no significant adverse effects
were likely to occur should this project be implemented as
planned.
The project in question is not located within 300 feet
of tidal wetlands area.
This declaration should not be considered a determination
made for any other department or agency which may also be in-
volved, nor for any other project not covered by the subject
appeal application.
Location of Property: S/s Route 25, Greenport, NY:
CTMP #1000-46-1-2. 1 .
Vote of the Board : Ayes: Messrs. Douglass, Goehringer,
Doyen, Grigonis and Sawicki.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -60- September 3 , 1981
ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION: Appeal No. 2879 . Application
of Southold Town Republican Committee for an off--premises
advertising sign.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis , seconded by Mr.. Sawicki,
it was
RESOLVED, to declare the following Negative Environmental
Declaration concerning the matter of the Southold Town Repub-
lican Committee:
ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION:
Pursuant to Section 617. 13 of the-N.Y.S. Department of
Environmental Conservation Act, Article 8 of the Environmental
Conservation Law, and Section 44-4 of the .Southold Town Code,
notice is hereby given that the Southold Town Board of Appeals
has determined that the subject project as proposed in this
appeal application is hereby classified as a Type II .Action,
not having a significant adverse effect upon the environment
for the following reason (s) :
An Environmental Assessment in the Short Form has been
submitted which indicates that no significant adverse effects
were likely to occur should this project be implemented as
planned.
Intersection of C.R. 48 and Sound Avenue, Mattituck, .NY;
CTMP #1000-121-2-2.
Project is not .located within 300 feet of tidal wetlands.
This declaration should not be considered a determination
made for any other department or agency which may also be in-
volved, nor for any other project not covered by the subject
appeal application.
Location of Property: Intersection of C.R. 48 and Sound
Avenue, Mattituck; CTMP #1000-121-2-2.
Vote of the Board : Ayes: Messrs. Douglass , Goehringer,
Doyen, Grigonis and Sawicki.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -61- September 3 , -1981
ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION: Appeal No. .2880 . Application
of Southold Town Republican Committee for an off-.-!premises
advertising sign.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis , seconded by Mr. - Sawicki,
it was
RESOLVED, to declare the following Negative Environmental
Declaration concerning the matter of the Southold Town Repub-
lican Committee:
ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION:
Pursuant to Section 617. 13 of the-N.Y.S. Department of
Environmental Conservation Act, Article 8 of the Environmental
Conservation Law, and Section 44-4 of the .Southold Town Code,
notice is hereby given that the Southold Town Board of Appeals
has determined that the subject project as proposed in this
appeal application is hereby classified -as a Type II .Action,
not having a significant adverse effect upon .the environment
for the following reason (s) : ,
An Environmental Assessment in the Short Form has been
submitted which indicates that no significant adverse effects
were likely to occur should this project be implemented as
planned.
The project in question is not .located within, 300 feet
of tidal wetlands area.
This declaration should not be considered a determination
made for any other department or agency which may also be in-
volved, nor for any other project not covered by the subject
appeal application.
Location of Property: S/s Route 25, Cutchogue, NY;
CTMP #1000-102-6-7.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Douglass , Goehringer,
Doyen, Grigonis and Sawicki.
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Southold Town Board of Appeals -62- September 3 , 1981
ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION: Appeal No; 2874 .. ' Application
of Matthew. McKiernan.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis , seconded by Mr. Sawicki,
it was
RESOLVED, to declare the following Negative Environmental
Declaration concerning the matter of Matthew McKiernan:
ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION:
Pursuant to Section '617. 13 of the-N.Y. S. Department of
Environmental Conservation Act, Article 8 of the Environmental
Conservation Law, and Section 44-4 of the .Southold Town Code,
notice is hereby given that the Southold Town Board 'o.f Appeals
has determined that the subject project as proposed in this
appeal application is hereby classified -as a Type II .Action,
not having a significant adverse effect upon .-the environment
for the following reason (s) : ,
An Environmental Assessment in the Short Form has been
submitted which indicates that no significant adverse effects
were likely to occur should this project be implemented as
planned.
N.Y.S. Department of Environmental Conservation has
permitted the construction of a new home 50 feet or more
from .the tidal .wetland boundary, under TW Permit #15276-0177"A" . .
This declaration should not be considered a determination
made for any other department or agency which may also be in-
volved, nor for any other project not covered by the subject
appeal application.
Location of Property: East end of Beachwood Lane, ,
Southold, NY; CTMP #1000-70-10-60 .
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Douglass, Goehringer,
Doyen, Grigonis and Sawicki.
• ` Southold Town Board of Appeals -63- September 3, 1981
APPEALS NO. 2867, 2868, 2869. Applications of Joseph
Czartosieski.
The board requested that a letter be sent to the Planning
Board reiterating the need by this board of the . off-street
parking requirements to be imposed by the Planning Board
thereby limiting available area for outside storage of the
cars proposed for sales, et cetera. The Planning Board . origi-
nally said they would not entertain any requests of this
department until this department acted upon the applications.
The board urged the chairman to request retaining Eileen
Carey until approximately October 15th, or later if necessary
in light of the increased workload.
Being there was no further business to come before the
board at this time, the Chairman declared the meeting
adjourned.
Respectfully submitted,
APPOEL)
Linda F. Kowalski, Secretary
Southold Town Board of Appeals
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Chairman Board of ApPe
RECEIVED AND FILED BY
THE SOUT11CID TOWN CLERK
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