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Southold Town Board of Appeals
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APPEALS BOARD
MEMBERS
GERARD P. GOEHRINGER
CHARLES GRIGONIS,JR. , Chairman
SERGE DOYEN, JR.
ROBERT J. DOUGLASS M I N. U T E S
JOSEPH H. SAWICKI — — — — — — —
REGULAR MEETING
OCTOBER 15, 1981
A Regular Meeting of the Southold Town Board of Appeals was
held on Thursday, October 15, 1981 at 7 :15 o' clock p.m. at the
Southold Town Hall , Main-Road, Southold, New York 11971.
Present were: Charles Grigonis, Jr. , Chairman; Serge Doyen,
Jr. ; Robert J. Douglass; Gerard P. Goehringer'; Joseph H. Sawicki.
Also present were: Mrs. Shirley Bachrach., LWV; Mr. Henry Lytle,
Southold=Peconic Seniors Club.
The Chairman called the meeting to order at 7 :15 p.m.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2898. Application of Carl H.
King, 350 King Street, Orient, NY for a Variance to the Zoning
Ordinance, Article III, Section 100-32 for permission to construct
accessory building in the fr.ontyard area at. 350 King Street, Orient;
bounded north by Navy Street; west by Shaw and Nolan; south by King
Street; east by Tyrrell; County Tax Map Parcel Item No. . 1000-26-
1-27.
The Chairman opened the hearing at approximately 7 :17 p.m.
by reading the. appeal application in its entirety, legal notice
of hearing and affidavits attesting to its publication in the
local and official newspapers, Notice of Disapproval from the .
Building Inspector, and letter from the Town, Clerk that notifica-
tion to adjoining property owners was made; fee paid $15. 00 .
MR. CHAIRMAN: Mr. King, do you have anything you would like
to add? You have covered it pretty well.
CARL H. KING: I have nothing more.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Anyone to speak against it? (None)
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MEMBER DOUGLASS: At the rate you're growing, Carl, is that
going to be big enough. I don' t mean you personally ! I 'm mean
your stuff, and your grandchildren.
MR. KING: I would say so.
MEMBER DOUGLASS: And it' s not going to be any closer to the
property line than the barn that is ' already there.
MR. KING: It won't be as close. It' ll be further away.
It' ll be in line with the front end of the present barn that' s
there.
The Board made the following findings and determination:
Appellant has appealed to this Board seeking permission to
construct a 10 ' by 15 ' storage building in the frontyard area
immediately to the south of the existing barn and set back from
the easterly property line of five feet. The lot in question
has unique character in that the premises fronts Navy Street at
the northerly end and fronts King Street at the southerly end.
Existing on the premises are a one-family, two-story frame house,
small privy, accessory barn 11 feet from Navy Street, and fences.
The Board agrees with the reasoning of appellants .
In considering this appeal, the board determines that the
variance request is not substantial in relation to the code re-
quirements; that the circumstances herein are unique and the
practical difficulties have been shown; that by allowing the
variance no substantial detriment to adjoining properties would
be created; that the difficulty cannot be obviated by a method,.
feasible to appellants, other than a variance; that no adverse
effects will be produced on available governmental facilities of
any increased population; that the relief requested will be in.
harmony with and promote the general purposes of the zoning code;
and that the .interests of justice will be served by allowing the
variance.
On motion by Mr. - Grigonis , seconded by Mr. Sawicki, it was
RESOLVED, that Carl H. King be granted the relief requested
in Appeal No. 2898 , to construct accessory building in the
frontyard area as applied for.
Location of Property: 350 King Street (a/k/a 355 Navy Street) ,
Orient, NY; County Tax Map Parcel Item No. 1000-26-1-27.
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Messrs. Doyen, Douglass, Goehringer,
Sawicki and Grigonis.
This resolution was unanimously adopted.
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Meeting
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2894., Application of Pequash Recrea-
tion Club, Inc. , Box 902, West Road, Cutchogue, NY (by Richard F.
Lark, Esq. ) fora Variance to the Zoning Ordinance, Article III ,
Section 100-35 for permission to construct fence along frontyard area
exceeding the maximum height requirements for fences. Location of
Property: 205 West Road, Cutchogue, NY; bounded northwest by
Morris; southwest by Cutchogue Harbor; northeast by West Road; south-
east by Cutchogue-New Suffolk Park District; County Tax Map Parcel
Item No. 1000-110-7-12.
The Chairman opened the hearing at approximately 7 : 23 p.m.
by reading the appeal application in its entirety, legal notice
of hearing and affidavits attesting to its publication in the
local and official newspapers, Notice of Disapproval from the
Building Inspector , and letter from the Town Clerk that notifica-
tion to adjoining property. owners was made; fee paid $15. 00 .
MR. CHAIRMAN: Mr. Lark, do you have anything you would like
to add to it?
RICHARD F. LARK, ESQ. : No. I think the petition -- I have
Mr. Henderson here in case there was a question of Pequash, but
the , I guess , about four or five years ago the Park District
fenced their property. And after they had fenced it, if you've
been down in that area, the only way, especially the young people,
the kids in the summertime , have to get to the most convenient
way to get to the beaches, to cut right through this property of
the Pequash Club, and on the way they had done their little damage.
It appears from anywhere from ripped shingles on the roof, which
we've had to replace sections of to graffitti on the walls. It' s
just a natural flow-through for them. The Park District by putting
their fence was able to shunt off the traffic, sort of speak, over
onto our property. This, by fencing it, won' t deprive people
access to the beach because those that have lawful use to go to
the beach, and when the Park District is closed, can still use
the end of Pequash Avenue, the foot of that -road, which is the
property over from ours. But the main problem is that every time
the residents would cooperate and tried to help us catch the
vandals or do something, they' re gone. And it' s always the ques-
tion of who' s authorized and who' s not authorized .to be there.
Now it' s going to be pretty clear if you will allow us to put up
the fence, that to be inside there you've had to have permission
from somebody because it' s going to be locked and just the members
will have a key, and that' s the intent of it. We do know the
zoning requirements only call for a four foot in the frontyard,
which is this; and that would be virtually worthless because of
the, as you know, if you've been there, the road since about four
feet higher, then the property dips down and you could just step
merely from the edge of the roadway on the top of the fence and
walk over. This will make it a little more difficult, and our
experience has been with .the Park District is, that it worked out
fairly well. And so that was the reason for the one foot differ-
ential of the five-foot application. And as I say, it would go
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(Appeal No. 2894 - Pequash Recreation Club, Inc. , continued: )
MR. LARK continued:
right across the property, as you have on the sketch, and it would
blend in there. I don't think it' ll be any difficulties with it.
But the ordinance does require us to get a variance. It' s one of
those technical things that you have to get. So, unless you have
any questions -- if you've been down there, and seen it, then you
know the problem. That' s the reason for it. And this has been
about two years in the making. This is the last thing the members
wanted to do, is to fence it. But you just get tired of replacing
the roof , the shingles and everything else. We' re going to try
this , and hopefully at least now, somebody' s in there, they' ll
have to explain themselves. Whereas before, what do you do, it' s
so busy. You don' t know what' s going on, you know, and you hate
to challenge anybody. So that' s the reason for it. Jim; do you
have anything you wanted to add?
JIM HENDERSON: Last Sunday, there was a fire at the Pequash
Club at the grounds , and we almost lost the club house. They did
call the fire department. But I think it would be- well worthwhile
to have it fenced.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Yeah, something like that really makes you
think about it. Does anyone else wish to speak for this? Anyone
to speak against it? Joe? Bob? Any questions?
MEMBER DOUGLASS: I ' ll make a motion that it be granted as
requested.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Second.
The board made the following findings and determination:
By this appeal , appellant seeks permission to construct a
five-foot high fence in the frontyard of premises located at the
south side of West Road, Cutchogue. Appellant asserts that the
subject club property has been subjected to trespassing and van-
dalism, for which outdoor lighting and increased police protection
has not eliminated. Section 100-35 of the Code permits the erec-
tion of fences in the frontyard area when the same does not
exceed four feet in height. It is the opinion of the board that
the within circumstances are quite unique and the board does agree
with appellant' s reasoning.
In considering this appeal, the board determines that the
variance request is not substantial; that the circumstances herein
are unique and the practical difficulties have been shown; that
by allowing the variance no substantial detriment to adjoining
properties would be created; that the difficulty cannot, be obviated
by a method, feasible to appellants, other than a variance; that
no adverse effects will be produced on available governmental faci-
lities of any increased population; that the relief requested .will
be in harmony with and promote the general purposes of .the zoning
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Meeting
(Appeal No. 2894 - Pequash Recreation Club, Inc. , continued: )
code; and that the interests of justice will be served by allowing the
variance.
On motion by Mr. Douglass, seconded by Mr. Goehringer, it was
RESOLVED, that a variance be allowed as applied for in Appeal
No. 2894 , application of Pequash Recreation Club, Inc.
Location of Property: West Road, Cutchogue, NY; County Tax Map
Parcel No. 1000-110-7-12 .
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Messrs. Doyen, Douglass, Goehringer,
Sawicki and Grigonis. This resolution was unanimously adopted.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2884 . Application of Virginia L.
Wickham, 105 Old Harbor Road, New Suffolk, NY for a Variance for
approval of access, New York Town Law Section 280A. Location of
Property: 105 Old Harbor Road, New Suffolk; bounded north by
Wickham; east by Cutchogue Harbor; south by Wickham; west by H.
Wickham; County Tax Map Parcel No. 1000-117-3-1 .
The Chairman opened the hearing at approximately 7 :30 p.m.
by -reading the appeal application in its entirety, legal notice
of hearing and affidavits attesting to its publication in the
local and official newspapers, Notice of Disapproval from the "
Building Inspector, and letter from the Town Clerk that notifica-
tion to adjoining property owners was made; fee paid $15. 00 .
MR. CHAIRMAN: Is there anybody that would like to add any-
thing to this application? Anyone against this application?
Any questions? (None) .
MR. CHAIRMAN: I' ll make a motion approving this subject to
the usual ZBA road improvement requirements.
MEMBER SAWICKI : Second.
(The chairman gave Mrs. Wickham a copy of the ZBA require-
ments for road improvements. )
The board made the following findings and determination:
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By this appeal , appellant seeks approval of access pursuant
to New York Town Law, Section 280-A over an existing right-of-way
20 feet in width and extending east and then north off Old Harbor
Road, Cutchogue. The premises to which this proposed access is
to traverse contains an existing one-family, 12-story frame
dwelling with garage, patio and porch, and small beach shed.
Appellant is proposing to construct an addition to the existing
dwelling,. for which the building inspector has turned down
because of no approved access.
In considering this appeal, the Board determines that the
variance request is not substantial; that the circumstances
herein are unique and the practical difficulties have been shown;
that by allowing the variance- no substantial detriment to adjoin-
ing properties would be created; that the difficulty cannot be
obviated by a method, feasible to appellant, other than a variance;
that no adverse effects. will be produced on available governmental
facilities of any increased population; that the relief requested
will be in harmony with and promote the general purposes of the
zoning code; and that the interests of justice will be served by
allowing the variance.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Sawicki, it was
RESOLVED, -that a variance be allowed as applied for in
Appeal No. 2884 , application of Virginia .L. Wickham, SUBJECT TO
THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS:
1. Such access road must. have a width of not less than 15
feet and be cleared of all trees , brush and other obstructions
to a width of 15 feet.
2. Such access road shall be improved in either of the
following two methods:
(a) Surfaced with a minimum depth of four inches
of packed three-quarter-inch stone blend so as to afford access
for emergency and other vehicles. Such stone blend .may be
either applied to the ground surface and shaped, or the sur-
face may be excavated to permit the application of packed blend
to a depth of four inches , OR
(b) Have topsoil removed to a depth of eight inches
and then filled with eight inches of a good grade stone and
sand bank run. The surface shall then be covered with a layer
of two to four inches of three-quarter-inch stone blend, or in
the alternative oiled with a minimum of four-tenths of a gallon
of road oil per square yard.
3. No certificate of occupancy shall be issued for the
construction of any buildings or structures, or any existing
,/buildings or structures, on the premises to which this access
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(Appeal No. 2884 - Virginia L. Wickham continued: )
is referred .until all of the conditions set forth herein have
been complied with.
.4. Where the terrain of the land over which such access
road is traversed is such that drainage problems may occur,
the applicant and/or owner shall be required to construct such
. drainage- facilities as may be recommended. by the Town Engineer.
5. That this access road be approved by the Board of
Appeals, Town Inspector or Town Engineer, or Town Building
Inspector, as to meeting the above requirements.
Location of Property : 105 Old Harbor Road, New Suffolk, NY;
County Tax Map Parcel Item No. 1000-117-3-1.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Doyen, Douglass, Goehringer,
Sawicki and Grigonis. This resolution was unanimously adopted.
On motion by Mr. Douglass, seconded by Mr. . Goehringer, it was
RESOLVED, to approve the Minutes of the August 12, 1981 Special
Meeting of this board, to approve the May 22, 1981 Special. Meeting
minutes of this board, and to approve the July 9, 1981 Regular
Meeting minutes of this board.
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Messrs. Doyen, Douglass, Goehringer,
Sawicki and Grigonis.
This resolution was unanimously adopted.
PUBLIC HEARING.: Appeal No. 2882 . Application of Toba Laja
Orro, 187 Berry Hill Road, Syosset, NY 11791, .for a Variance to
the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section 100-31 for permission
to build a new house with insufficient front and rear yard areas
at 435 Cleaves Point. Road (a/k/a 1945 East Gillette Drive) , East
Marion, NY; Marion Manor Subdivision, Filed Map No. 2038 , Lot
No. 83;' further identified as County Tax Map Parcel Item No.
1000-38-4-27.
The Chairman opened the hearing at approximately 7 :40 p.m.
by reading the appeal application .in its entirety, legal notice
of hearing and affidavits attesting to its publication in the
local and official newspapers , Notice of Disapproval from the
Building Inspector, and letter from the Town Clerk that notifica-
tion to adjoining property owners was made; fee paid $15. 00 .
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(Appeal No. 2882 - Toba Laja Orro, continued : )
MR. CHAIRMAN: We have a copy of the survey and the County Tax
Map showing this property and the surrounding properties. Is there
anything you would like to add on this application? (Nothing was
added) Is there anyone to speak against this application? (None)
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Douglass, it was
RESOLVED, to close the hearing and reserve decision in the
matter of Appeal No. 2882 , application of Toba Laja Orro.
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Goehringer, Grigonis, Doyen, Doug-
lass and Sawicki. This resolution was unanimously adopted.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. FL-7 . Application of Toba, Laja
Orro, 187 Berry Hill Road, Syosset, NY for a Variance to the Flood
Damage Prevention Law of the Town of Southold, Section 46-18 for
permission to construct basement floor below the minimum base
flood elevation requirements at 435 Cleaves Point Road, East Mar-
ion, NY; Marion Manor Subdivision Filed Map No. 2038, Lot No. 83 ;
further identified as County Tax Map Parcel Item No. 1000-38-4-27.
The Chairman opened the hearing at approximately 7 : 50 p.m.
by reading the appeal application in its entirety, legal notice
of hearing and affidavits attesting to its publication in the
local and official newspapers, Notice of Disapproval from the
Building Inspector, and- letter from the Town Clerk that notifica-
tion to adjoining property owners was made; fee paid $15 . 00 .
MR. CHAIRMAN: On this sketch, Mr. Orro, it shows 8. 5 '
in one corner and 6 . 7 ' at another side of the building. Then
there' s a 7. 3 , but it' s setoff away from the building -- oh
wait a minute, I guess it' s 8 . 5 on the side. The 7. 1 , is that
the bottom of the cellar?
MR. ORRO: The bottom of the cellar with the 3 . 75 above sea
level . The building construction itself was to be 10 . 75 above
sea level. It' s way above the 8 point. Now it says basement
and cellar, but actually it' s just for storage and I have an
additional drawing here showing barrels filled with rocks would
be stored, and solar heat will be just blown and stored. Did
you want to see that?
MR. CHAIRMAN: Yes. Could you bring it up?
MR. ORRO: I have also a model here. Now this is facing
southeast and south, and this is the solar house, and green
house . The solar heat will be created here and .in the floor
in the greenhouse, and the problem is always how to store it
because as soon as the sun goes down it starts to go through the
roof. So I did the storage area under the house and it' s well
insulated. We went to .see the house in Brookhaven Laboratories , a
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(Appeal No. FL-7 - Toba Laja Orro, continued: )
solar house, where they have the same idea, but they started in a
different way. That' s always the problem, how to keep it from
disappearing.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: What is the size of the house, the square
footage, Mr. Orro?
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MR. ORRO: Oh, I had 'some place. But I don' t know. But this
wing is almost -- you know, it' s just garage, and this will create
a ( ) . I don' t know. So, I will use the height of the area under
the house, because it' s not suitable for anything else. It' s only
616" high now and will be concrete, and there is no opening in
that area. There wouldn' t be any high water. No I was there by
myself, when..Hurricane Belle was here. At that time they really
said you would have to evacuate because the water is coming up and
I was the height of the hurricane at midnight, and it never came
into the parking area. (Remainder statements were not audible. )
MEMBER ,GOEHRINGER: The actual foundation wall will be 6 ' 6 ,
is that what you' re saying?
MR. ORRO: Right.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Ok. And a certain portion. of that founda-
tion will come out of the ground, that' s this part right here.
MR. ORRO: Yes. The ground level right now is 8 . 5 , at the
10 . 25 , so it' s about two feet above the ground. Don' t you have that?
MR. CHAIRMAN: Yes, I'm pretty sure we have that in the file.
Yes.
MR. ORRO: This I worked out with the building inspector , Mr.
Fisher.
MEMBER DOYEN: That will be exclusively for the rock?
MR. ORRO: Well, either rocks and sand in barrels.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: How else is the house going to be heated?
MR. ORRO : No other heat. There is going to be a wood-burning
stove here; Right here centrally located.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: There will be no electric heat back-up or
anything?
MR. ORRO: Not installed. If that should be necessary we could
plug it in. Wood-burning and coal-burning combinations. Well I am
going to have 220-volt system in the house. It' s all built in such
a way that this area can be closed off , so it' s only going to be
living where the kitchen, dining and bedroom areas.
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(Appeal No. FL-7 - Toba Laja Orro, continued : )
MEMBER DOUGLASS: May I ask you a question?
MR. ORRO: Yes.
MEMBER DOUGLASS : What if you build this this way, what, have
you taken into consideration in case you ever did get water in that
storage area of getting it out?
MR. ORRO: Well , one way .to get it out quick there should be
a pump system there. If it just would drain out slowly, I would
leave one part of the basement floor open.
MEMBER DOUGLASS: Yeah, but when you have something that goes
below the flood plain, it' s supposed to be waterproof construction.
MR. ORRO: All the construction is above any danger zone, on
the wood, or beams or anything.
MEMBER DOUGLASS: Well it won' t be if you' re granted this.
MR. ORRO: Well there is nothing going to be that water can
damage in the basement. There is only barrels with rocks which, and
the hot water storage unit will be also there. Now if you would
recommend, I would have a pump, sump pump put in. But as far as I
know, there was never any, ever, it might maybe one day come very
high.
MEMBER DOUGLASS : The ' 38 one went up there.
MR. ORRO : But they say it went up the street. Now my land is
much higher, .but then it falls off way down on the Gardiner' s Bay
Estates area, there is a --
MEMBER DOUGLASS: Ken Thornhill ' s hollow there.
MR. ORRO: Thornhill, and then there is a road, and planned
road, actually it is a right-of-way which will never be built. It' s
all very low. So any water that might have come was maybe, would be
in that area. But on the street when it came, very little. But
nobody remembers.
MEMBER DOUGLASS : I remember the 138 one.
MR. ORRO: I talked to Mr. Egert who used to live there, and
he said .only once maybe came a little on the street in the parking
lot
MEMBER DOUGLASS : Other than that ' 38 one, we've never had any
that had real severe tides.
MR. CHAIRMAN: That' s going to be cement floor in there?
MR. ORRO: Yes. That' s what I plan. Reinforced cement.
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(Appeal No. FL-7- Toba Laja Orro , continued: )
MR. CHAIRMAN : Thank you very much, Mr. Orro. Is there anyone
else to speak in favor of this? Anyone to speak against it? Any
questions? (None)
MEMBER DOUGLASS : I' ll make a motion that we close the hearing
and reserve decision.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Second.
On motion by Mr . Douglass, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it was
RESOLVED, to close the hearing and reserve decision in the
matter of Appeal No. FL-7 , matter of Toba Laja Orro.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Grigonis, -Douglass, Doyen, Goeh-
ringer and Sawicki.
REHEARING: . Appeal No. 2784 . Application of Robert T. Bayley_,
55 West 16th Street, New York, NY 10011 (Robert W. Gillispie III
as agent) , for a Variance for approval of access, New York Town Law
Section 280A. Location of Property: Right-of-way off the east
side of South Harbor Road, Southold, NY; bounded north by Stewart
and Freund; west by Paul; south by the bay; east by Ballenger;
County Tax Map -Parcel Item No. 1000-87-1-21.
The Chairman opened the hearinq at approximately 8 : 01 p.m.
by reading 'Mr. Bayley' s reasons ;for a g
, rehearing', '= legal notice
of hearing and aftidavits attesting to its publication in. the
local and official newspapers, Notice of Disapproval from the
Building Inspector, and letter from the Town Clerk that notifica-
tion to adjoining property owners was made; fee paid $15 . 00.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have anything you would like to add,
Mr. Bayley?
ROBERT T. BAYLEY: It' s really very plain.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Anyone here to speak against the application?
(None) Do you gentlemen have any questions? (None) How much
is your actual right-of-way that you've been granted? Well , you
say you don 't have the 15 feet that other people have.
MR. BAYLEY: My particular survey shows, unfortunately it ' s
not dimentioned but it ' s to scale eight feet, and I would assume
that if one were to bring it up to a legal court and talk about
the actual width, they would take it off the survey, and it
shows there' s eight feet. I understand that other people who
have houses on the same road that I do there are 10 families
along there, ten families living there, but additional families
have built. But other families have greater right-of-way width
than I do, so theoretically they could make improvements that
✓ I couldn't make. I think I mentioned that in my letter to Mr.
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(Appeal No. 2784 - .Robert T. Bayley, continued: )
MR. BAYLEY continued:
Lavinia has a wider right-of-way, legal, that is , than I do. The
actual road itself is only eight feet wide , as I mentioned in my
letter the road is constructed in such a way that to widen it
would be extremely difficult. It' s literally in a trench or
canyon for the first say, 100 feet. It' s entire length is tightly
reigned in by trees.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Yeah, we've been down there several times.
A copy of the deed we have, we can' t seem to find anything in
there about eight feet.
MR. BAYLEY: 'The deed itself, as far as I know, it doesn' t
mention dimensions. It doesn' t say eight feet. It doesn' t say
12 feet. It says I have a right-of-way over the existing road.
Well the existing road is an eight-foot road. On the survey
there is , of course, visual information and that is to scale
eight feet. The survey is just that and nothing more than
a graph.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Would you please come up for a minute?
You say that 100 feet or first 700 feet?
MR. BAYLEY: Well the actual road itself, that is , I'm talking
about the physical road is at its most narrow point, I would say,
it' s nothing more than 100 to 200 feet here. I don' t know if this
scale is --
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Fifty foot to an inch.
MR. BAYLEY: So that would be, I would say , three neighbors ,
there are roughly four people that own houses along here, the
beginning of the road .is absolutely so hemmed in and so restrictive
that it would be -- I don' t think it would physically be -- of
course it' s physically possible if you came in there and spent
$50 ,000 and literally moved a lot, but it would cost something
in the neighborhood I think. Well maybe $50 ,000 is high, but I
think it would cost in the neighborhood of $30, 000 if one could
widen the road. Now, as I said before because of the fact that I
don't on my deeds own this property , all I have is the right to
use another person' s land. The only way I could interpret this,
and I talked to an attorney about it, is that I can only use that
portion which is traveled. I .only have the right to maintain it,
if I wish to. It so happens that I'm also in charge of maintenance
for the roads because I 'm a relative newcomer on the road and I
volunteered, so I called a contractor to grade it .every year, and
he can only touch that portion which we, that is myself and others ,
have the right to use, which is the road itself .
MEMBER DOUGLASS : It shows 20 .feet on that survey, doesn' t it?
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: That was LaVinia' s, Bob.
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(Appeal No. 2784 - Robert T. Bayley, continued: )
MR. BAYLEY: Well it' s owned by a series of people along here,
I would think. I 'm not sure actually. This is 82 inches, so that' s
roughly I 'd say 4001 .
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: You see, I don 't know where that 700 '
line is shown, where does that start and where does that end? I
guess from here to here.
MR. BAYLEY: I would think. so. To the property. It'.s just
about 700 from here to here. This is 300 , oh this is 400 feet here.
This is about, that' s right, so the 700 is referring from here to
here, near the arrows. There are one, two, three, four property
owners from here to here .
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: We've been there several times.
MR. BAYLEY: The road varies in width. That' s the problem.
It' s very narrow here, and then over here it' s wide. Here there' s
no problem widening it.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Ok, thank you very much.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Any more questions? (None) I' ll offer a
resolution closing the hearing and reserving decision until later.
MEMBER DOUGLASS : Second.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis , seconded by Mr. Douglass, it was
RESOLVED, to close the hearing and reserve decision in the
matter of Appeal No. 2784 , rehearing of Robert T. Bayley.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Goehringer, Grigonis, Doyen, Doug-
lass and Sawicki. This resolution was unanimously adopted.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2883 . Application of Nina S.
Fischer, Indian Neck Lane, Peconic , NY for a Variance to the Zoning
Ordinance, Article III, Section 100-31 for permission to construct
addition to existing dwelling with an insufficient sideyard setback
at 7130 Indian Neck Lane, Peconic, NY; bounded northwest by Cukor;
southwest by Hog Neck Bay; northeast and southeast by Prellwitz;
County Tax Map Parcel No. 1000-86-7-8 .
The Chairman opened the hearing at approximately 8 : 14 p.m.
by reading the appeal application in its entirety, legal notice
of hearing and affidavits attesting to its publication in the
local and official newspapers, Notice of Disapproval from the
Building Inspector, and letter from the Town Clerk that notifica-
tion to adjoining property owners was made; fee paid $15 . 00 .
MR. CHAIRMAN: Is there someone here to speak in favor of this?
(Mrs. Fischer was present but had nothing more to add. ) No other
comments were made. I ' ll make a motion approving this as applied for.
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Southold Town Board of Appeals -14- October 15, 1981 Regular
Meeting
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Second.
The board made the following findings and determination:
By this appeal, appellant seeks permission to construct an
addition to living room area of existing one-family dwelling,
with dimensions of 14' by 24 ' , leaving an. insufficient sideyard
setback of approximately nine. feet. Upon personal inspection
of the .premises, the Board finds an existing accessory garage
in the frontyard area approximately 10 feet from the easterly
side line. It is the opinion of the Board that an insufficient
sideyard ar.ea'. is...uexisting, and.. the area proposed by appellant
is the most practical and feasible.
In considering this appeal, the Board determines that the
variance request is not substantial; that the circumstances
herein are unique and the practical difficulties have been shown;
that by allowing the variance no substantial detriment . to adjoin-
ing properties would be created; that the difficulty cannot be
obviated by a method, feasible to appellant, other than a variance;
that no adverse effects will be produced on available governmental
facilities of any increased population; that the relief requested
will be in harmony with and promote the general purposes of the
zoning code; and that the interests of justice will be served by
allowing the variance.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis , seconded by Mr. Goehringer, it was
RESOLVED, that a variance be allowed as applied for in Appeal
No. 2883, application of Nina S. Fischer.
Location of Property: 7130 Indian Neck Lane, Peconic, NY;
County Tax Map Parcel Item No. 1000-86-7-8.
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Messrs. Doyen, Douglass, Goehringer,
Sawicki and Grigonis. This resolution was unanimously adopted.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2888 . Application of Lenore
Adamson, 55 Ships Drive, Southold, NY (Thomas F. Daly, Esq. ) for
a Variance to the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section 100-31
for approval of insufficient area for division of premises located
at North Bayview Road and Ships Drive, Southold, NY; bounded north
by North Bayview Road; west by Ships Drive; south by Mullen; east
by Reese. County Tax Map Parcel Item No. 1000-79-3-9 & 10.
The Chairman opened the hearing at approximately 8 :20 p.m.
by reading the appeal application in its entirety, legal notice
of hearing and affidavits attesting to its publication in the
local and official newspapers , Notice of Disapproval from the
Building Inspector, and letter from the Town Clerk that notifica-
tion to adjoining property owners was made; fee paid $15. 00-
Southold Town Board of Appeals -15- October 15 , 1981
(Appeal No. 2888 - Lenore Adamson, continued: )
MR. CHAIRMAN: We have a copy of the survey showing the
proposed division. We also have a copy of .the County Tax Map
showing this property and the surrounding properties. Is there
anything you would like to add to the application, Mr. Daly?
THOMAS DALY, ESQ. : It was put into Lee' s name alone for
tax purposes back in 1968 or. so, and they didn't realize the
fact that they were going to merge, whoever did it. They
actually bought the lots separately.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Thank you. . Is there anyone else to speak
for this application? (None) Is there anyone to speak against
it? (None) Do you gentlemen have any questions, Bob.
MEMBER DOUGLASS : None.
MR. CHAIRMAN: I ' ll offer a resolution granting this as
applied for. The reasoning is that they will not change the
area, the lots comply with the size in the surrounding area.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Second.
The board made the following findings and determination:
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Southold Town Board of Appeals -16- October 15, 1981 Regular
Meeting
By this appeal, appellant requests approval of insufficient
lot area of two proposed parcels located along the east side of
North Road to Bayview, and along the southwesterly boundary of
"Bayview Woods Estates" Subdivision, Southold. Proposed Parcel
"A" is a:.co.rner lot situated at the intersection of North Bayview
Road and Private Road and contains an area of approximately 26 ,850
square feet. Proposed Parcel "B" is. situated just north of
Parcel "A" and contains an area of approximately 22,800 square
feet. The lots .in the neighborhood are of similar size and
shape. Appellant asserts that the parcels were purchased
separately and prior to the change in zoning to 40 ,000 square
feet. The Board recognizes the practical difficulties in that
by not allowing the variance the property will be substantially
larger than those. generally in the neighborhood.
In considering this appeal , the Board determines that the
variance request is not substantial; that the circumstances
herein are unique and the practical difficulties have been shown;
that by allowing the variance no substantial detriment to adjoin-
ing properties would be created; that the difficulty cannot be
obviated by a method, feasible to appellant, other than a variance;
that no adverse effects will be produced on available governmental
facilities of any increased population; that the relief requested
will be in harmony with and promote the general purposes of the
zoning code; and that the interests of justice will be served by
allowing the variance.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Goehringer, it
was
RESOLVED, that a variance to the zoning ordinance be allowed
as applied for in Appeal No. 2888 , application of Lenore Adamson.
Location of Property: North Bayview Road and Ships Drive,
Southold, NY; bounded north by North Bayview Road; west by
Ships Drive; south by Mullen; east by Reese. County Tax Map
Parcel Item No. 1000-79-3-9 & 10 .
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Doyen, Douglass , Goehringer,
and Grigonis. (Member Sawicki was temporarily out of the room. )
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2885. Application of Joseph L.
Lizewski.
(Continued on Page 17)
Southold Town. Board of Appeals -17- October 15, 1981
PUBLIC HEADING: Appeal No. 2885. Application of Joseph L.
Lizewski, Main Road, Cutchogue, NY (by William H. Price, Jr. , Esq. )
for a Variance to the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section 100-30
for permission to construct professional office building in an A-
Residential and Agricultural Zone with existing dwelling use at
29325 Main Road (a/k/a 320 Depot Lane), Cutchogue; bounded northwest
by Fogarty; southwest by Depot Lane; northeast by Dunne; southeast
by Main Road. County Tax Map Parcels No. 1000-102-2-12. 1 and 11 .
The Chairman read the legal notice and the appeal application
pertaining to reasons for this appeal.
MR„ CHAIRMAN: Do you have something to add, Mr. Price, to what
has been said in the application?
WM. H. PRICE, JR. : Yes. Just for the record, my name is William
H. Price Jr. I'm the attorney for the applicant and here is our
petition. What my client proposes to do is to construct and maintain '
what we consider an attractive professional office building located
on the Main Road in Cutchogue. I have submitted copies of the arch-
itectural renditions -to this Board and at this time I would like my
client, Dr. Lizewski, to say a few things; I may ask him a few questions
as we go along to make sure that the record is properly presented -to
this Board.
DR. JOSEPH LIZEWSKI: I've been practicing for 13 years in
Cutchogue.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Would you use the mic, Doc, so the people behind
you can hear you maybe.
DR. LIZDATSK2: I've been practicing for 13 years in Cutchogue , and
over the years I've watched the area very carefully hoping to move off
of my office on Depot Lane which is ah area that's zoned Business for
use, which is the only place that I found when I came out to Cutchogue
that I could practice in, and there has been other professional people
who come to the area, for example, Dick Lark, who's an attorney, who
looked for almost a year and a half before he found a building that he
could purchase. And I also realized that there's a, the professional
buildings that have been built in Southold Town, there aren't any.
Southold Town has never had a professional complex built for profession-
als. It has had two-story dwellings, aloe of dental offices and
professional `dffices have two stories and are built over liquor stores
or other shops and it's not really convenient for older people. A
one-story dwelling is a much preferred professional building. This
is the only building that I know of in Southold Town that has been
offered to people who, which is being built and constructed strictly
for professional people.
Southold Town' Board of Appeals -1?8- October 15, 1981
(DR. LIZEWSKI, CONT. ) : I also think that there are other doctors who
have looked in the area and just simply cannot find a place in
Cutchogue for, to-)set up a practice. The area certainly cannot deny
that the need for doctors or other professionKs. It's an area that,
we just never seem to have enough of them, and I think that by building
a nice looking building, and having an access which this particular
parcel of land does, on two,.,particular road fronts, certainly would
add to Cutchogue and add to the area.
And a building, one of -the main buildings that I would use,
(phrase was inaudible) , is a home that is there. It's over 200
years old. Two hundred years old. Now for me to tape that, for
instance, and construct just a dental office, tl.zs building has no
cellar under it. It would be very difficult. it has been built up
on corners with posts, but it has no cellar under it. Now, as a
dentist, you would need gas, you' d need tremendous sewerage, you
need air, air compressor, you need different things that would be
very difficult to run and maintain underneath a building of this
nature. So, for me to take and just use, utilize this building for
professional use, as it stands right now, is a very expensive idea,
and also almost foolish to try to take a 200 year old building .of
this nature that has been, you know, rebuilt and rebuilt on the in-
side and the outside, to where it would be of any great value to me.
So, my feeling was to construct another office so. I could fi ally
move to an office that was built just for me, which would be nice to
I,.ve rather than taking a house or, that's what most of the profession-
als have out here--they have a house and they put a few petitions in it
here and there, what have you, and they convert it to a professional
office, to an office.
WM. H. PRICE, JR. : Excuse me. How much did you pay for the prop-
erty that' s in question now?
DR. .LIZE,%TSKI: 65 thousand dollars.
NM. H. PRICE, JR. : How much property taxes do you pay on this
property each year?
DR. LIZEWSKI: , Well, this year it will change because I--
VIM. H. PRICE, JR. : How much did you pay in your last tax bill
down--
DR. LIZEWSKI: I didn't have a tax bill. This is my first pay-
ment on a bill.
WTI. H. PRICE, JR. : How much will that be?
�' DR. LIZEWSKI: Oh, I assume about °12 .hundred dollars.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -19- October 15, 1981
WM. H. PRICE, JR. : And have you been making any profit whatsoever
off of this property since you've owned it?
DR. LIZEWSKI: We've made a profit off this property for a long
time.
WM. H. PRICE, JR. : As it is now, you have made no profit whatso-
ever?
DR. LIZEWSKI: Absolutely not, no. Not the way it stands.
WM. H. PRICE'down
Now, concerning the character of the neigh-
borhood, going don Depot Lane, is it not true running from the rail-
road south on Depot Lane, that you run across a cemetery, church., a
current office and the Knights of Columbus hall?
DR. LIZEWSKI: A bar.
11M. H. PRICE, JR. : Well, that's on the west side, you have the
Blue Top, you have Gorman's, Patrick Gorman's. office there, and then
you run into a school.
DR. LIZEWSKI: Right.
WM. H. PRICE, JR. : That's on Depot Lane, am I right? Now,
going down the Main Road to the next intersection to the west, on
the north side of the Main Road, do you not run into first a Shell
Gasoline Station right across the street from your property?
DR. LIZEWSKI: It's adjacent to it.
WM. H. PRICE, JR. : Then a 7-Eleven Store.
DR. LIZEWSKI: Yes.
11M. H. PRICE, JR. : Dick Lark's office, then the property that
the Library is going to go into.
DR. LIZEWSKI: Yes.
WM. H. PRICE, JR. : Then you get into the commercial area of the
hamlet in Cutchogue, right?
DR. LIZEWSKI: Yes.
WM. H. PRICE, JR. : On the other side of the street running from
Depot Lane west, this being the south side of the Main Road, is the
Southold Town Board of Appeals -20- October 15, 1981
(VdM.H. PRICE, JR. CONT. ): Four Sails Real Estate office--
DR. LIZEIPTSKI: It's across the street.
VIM. H. PRICE, JR. : And Wickham's Fruit Stand, Fisherman's Rest-
aurant with a Gift Shop, and then a liquor store and the bank. Is
that right?
DR. LI=ATSKI: Yes.
NM. H. PRICE, JR. : Then ,on the Main Road going east you run_ into
the A& Auto Repair Store and an antique shop before you get to Pequash
Avenue?
DR. LTZEWSKI: Yes.
%tTM. H. PRICE, JR. : Is that right?
DR. LIZL�1TSKI: That's right.
1-11M. H. PRICE, JR. : Alright. Now, I would '`,like to have Dr.
Shamus Lynch come up and tell this Board a. little bit about his
efforts, as a doctor, trying to find an office location in the
vicinity of Cutchogue.
DR. SHAM1JS LYNCH: Mr. Chairman, ladies and gentlemen, members of
the Township, I've been out here, roughly 18 years, living in Cutchogue.
And my practice was in New York City; I've been out here almost four
years full -time. My specialty is anesthesiology as many people know.
However, about a year ago, I was very anxious to go back to where I
started from. That is -vyhat is called today--primary care physician_,
or we can call it general practitioner. -from,-now on.-- I .was: .one of the
first to bid on the court house building in Cutchogue. I lost out to
the Cutchogue Free Library. I was very anxious to start my own
practice of primary care, medical practice.
And if you take, start from Orient Point and work westward, you
will find, although vie have many doctors, all superb in their special-
ties, the first general practitioner you come across, or primary care
physician, is Dr. Hammond who leases in the professional building in
Southold on the North Road. From there, you travel all the way past
Jamesport almost to Aquebogue before you come to Dr. Badmajew, the
only other primary care physician between Orient Point and Riverhead.
I also sit on the Long Range Planning Committee at Eastern Long
Island Hospital and their first priority is to get one to two primary
care physicians in this Township. We are down that low. We have all
kinds of internists, cardiologists, surgeons and whatnot; we just do
Ji not have enough primary care physicians. I have made tremendous efforts
Southold Town Board of Appeals -21- October 15, 1981
(DR, LYNCH, CONT. ) : to the local realtIT offices to find a location
in which to establ.2.sh a primary care facility or a general practice
office. I have been absolutely and totally unable to do this. I_
only met Dr. Lizei.�iski in person three weeks ago and I was basically
shuffled to him by a. real estate agent in frustration, knowing that
he was proposing this particular building® I have been offered space
in the Mattituck Shopping C.6nter which I don't think is the location
for a primary care physician, and also on Pikers Peak in Mattituck
which also is an extremely business area, not the area for a practice
of general, primary care, care of patients. Out here, naturally, you
expect 50 to 550/0 of your patients to be, certainly in the senior
citizenship age group® They don't like the hustle and bustle of this
sort of office practice; they're looking for a more rural, easy-going
way of doing it, When I say Dr. Lizewski's plans the first time three
weeks ago, I was quite impressed. I thought they were extraordinarily
aesthetic (remainder of statement was inaudible) . I thought it would
be .a. tremendous improvement, not alone in the heimlet of Cutchogue and
New Suffolk, but a fine place for a practitioner such as myself or
somebody else, where we can go in and lease. I have tried to buy, I
have tried to lease. There is nothing available for me or my kind.
Therefore, I just would like to ask the Board tonight to consider Dr.
Lizewski's plans and request very .seriously in this light. Thank you
very much.
MR. CHAIRMAN .Than'k you.
M. H. PRICE, JR. : Can I ask you one question, Dr. Lynch,
before you leave? In your opinion as a medical professional in
this area for the past 18 years, would the granting of this variance
be in the furtherance of the public welfare in enabling more sites
for medical Drofessionals to come into this area?
DR. LYNCH: No, there's no question in my mind about this. I
just happened to play some golf this afternoon with senior citizens.
They had to travel to Riverhead, they had to travel to Greenport,
and they are all Cutchogue residents. It makes no sense to me. We
in Cutchogue have no place for doctors, for a professional building,
and it's time we had one. Thank you very much.
WM. H PRICE, JR. : Now, in summation;, you have heard the testi�- -
mony concerning the character of the neighborhood, and you have heard
the testimony, as to the lack of return that my client has had Up to
par. The sole other element to be shown to you this evening is that
this particular request is in the spirit of your zoning ordinance.
As yoU:-.know, we talk about the health, safety and welfare of the public.
Such a professional center would definitely further that objective.
In this particular zone, the A-Residential Zone, my client could put
in a veterinary hospital.. He could open a veterinarian office there.
If there was water, he could put a marina in. . You'd have a school,
Southold Town Board of Appeals -22- October 15, 1981
(WM. H. PRICE, JR. CONT. ): a hospital, a nursing home and the like.
I believe that the use variance rea_uest this evening for a professional
office building would be in keeping with the spirit of our ordinance.
We allow professional offices as an accessory use and here we have a
location on the main thoroughfare through -the hamlet of Cutchogue
which would be ideal for such a use. It will not change the character
of the neighborhood, we know, and I request that this evening, this
Board grant the variance that we are requesting. Thank you.
MR. CHA.IRMiAN: Thank you, Mr. Price. Is there anyone else to
speak in favor of this? (There was no response. ) Anyone who wishes
to speak against it? (There was no response. ) Any of the Board
members have any further questions you'd like to ask? (Negative)
I'll offer a resolution closing the hearing and reserving decision--
WM. H. PRICE, JR. : There's a question, Mr. Chairman,
1JR. CHAIRMAN: Oh, excuse me.
MRS. BACHRACH: Does that plan have a place for parking?
MR. CHAIRMAN: Yes. He has two acres or something like that
of property there. He's got ample parking. The resolution was to•
close the hearing and reserve decision until we can do a little more
deliberation on it.
MEMBER SAWICKI: Second.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Sawicki, it was
RESOLVED, that the hearing in the matter of Dr. Joseph L.
Lizewski, Appeal No. 2885, be closed and decision reserved until
a later date.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Grigonis, Doyen, Douglass,
Goehringer, and Sawicki.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2887. Application of. Dominick.
and Rose DeMaio, by William J. Jacobs as agent, c/o Box 199B,
Depot Lane, Cutchogue, NY for a Variance to the Zoning Ordinance,
Article III, Section 100-31 for permission to construct new dwell-
ing with insufficient front and rear yard areas at Cedar Point Drive
West, Southold, NY; bounded north by Cedar Point West; west by
Giordano; south by West Lake; east by Soverel ; County Tax Map Par-
cel No. 1000-90-1-4 .
Southold Town Board of Appeals -23- October 15, 1981
(Appeal No. 2887 - Dominick and Rose DeMaio , continued: )
The Chairman opened the hearing at approximately 8 :55 p.m.
by reading the appeal application in its entirety, legal notice
of hearing and affidavits attesting to its publication in the
local and official newspapers, Notice of Disapproval from the
Building Inspector, and letter from the Town Clerk that notifica-
tion to adjoining property owners was made; fee paid $15 . 00 .
MR. CHAIRMAN: We have a copy of the sketch showing the
proposed location of the new house and a copy of the County Tax
Map showing this property and the surrounding properties. Is
there anything you would like to add, Mr. Jacobs?
WILLIAM J. JACOBS : The approval from the DEC for the
rearyard was at 20 feet, so that' s what the house would be equal
to the next door neighbor' s at that setback. On the other side,
the . property swings way out and the backyard would probably be
around 30-35 feet on the other side of the deck. We tried to
centralize the house on that piece of property. It could be
brought way over. the end, but it would look kind of funny over
there, and since it' s similar to the other houses, we're plan-
ning on putting it near the center of the lot. The 35-foot set-
back is the same on the left side over there at Soverall ' s house
and it will be equally set back with them. The rear setback
would be about equal on the other side, the other neighbor. So
I think it ' s positioned in about the right place.
MR. CHAIRMAN: This is going to have a basement under it?
MR. JACOBS : It is going to have a crawl space with no
concrete , just a dirt crawl space under it. It will probably
be about a four-foot crawl space.
MR. CHAIRMAN: I was just looking up that DEC permission.
Yes, it says, " . . .home .is to -be 20 feet behind line of mean high
water. . . . "
MR. JACOBS: Right.
MR. CHAIRMAN: They've given you a variance on it. Ok.
Anyone else to speak for this? (None) Anyone to speak against
this? (None) Any questions Joe, Bob. (None) I' ll offer a
resolution granting this application for the rearyard and the
frontyard setback subject to Planning Board approval because they
get in to this too. Planning Board approval of the access, and
so on.
MEMBER SAWICKI. Second.
The board made the following findings and determination:
Southold Town Board of Appeals -24- October 15, 1981
(Appeal No. 2887 - Dominick and Rose DeMaio, continued: )
By this appeal, appellant seeks permission to construct a
new one-family dwelling upon premises located at the south side
of Cedar Point Drive West, Southold, with a frontyard. setback
of approximately 30+ and with an-insufficient rearyard setback
at the dwellings nearest point to ordinary high water mark of
23 feet. The premises in question has frontage along Cedar
Point Drive West of 90 feet and an average depth of approxi-
mately 140 feet. The premises is located in a Zone V-4 , minimum
elevation above mean sea level of eight feet, pursuant to the
Flood Plain Management Law and FIRM Maps of the Town of Southold,
for a new dwelling for which appellant intends -to comply with.
Appellant has submitted with his applicant .Amended Approval from
the N.Y. S. Department of Environmental Conservation for the
proposed new dwelling with restrictions, to wit, home to be 20
feet behind line of mean high water, et cetera. This restriction
has caused practical difficulties for appellant in the placement
of the proposed dwelling.
In considering this appeal, the Board determines that the
variance request is not substantial; that the circumstances herein
are unique and the practical difficulties have been shown; that by
allowing the variance no substantial detriment to adjoining proper-
ties would be created; that no adverse effects will be produced
on available governmental facilities of any increased population;
that the relief requested will be in harmony with and promote the
general purposes of the zoning code; and that the interests of
justice will be served by allowing the variance.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Sawicki, it was
RESOLVED, that a variance to the zoning ordinance be allowed
as applied for in Appeal No. 2887 , application of Dominick and
Rose DeMaio, SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS :
1. That this matter be referred to the Suffolk County Planning
Commission pursuant to the rules and regulations of the Suffolk
County Charter, and
2. That this matter be referred to the Southold Town Planning
Board for consideration on the approval of the access road which
appears to be within the boundaries of the filed subdivision of
"Cedar Beach :Park. "
Location of Property : Cedar Point Drive West, Southold, NY;
bounded north by Cedar Point West; west by Giordano; south by West
Lake; east .by Soverel; County Tax Map Parcel Item No. 1000-90-1-4 .
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Messrs. Doyen, Douglass, Goehringer,
✓Sawicki and Grigonis. This resolution was unanimously adopted.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -25- October 15 , 1981
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2886 . Application of Nicholas D.
Yuelys , 56005 County Road 48 , Greenport, NY for a Variance to the
Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section 100-32 for permission to
construct accessory building (garage) in the frontyard area at
56005 County Road 48 , Greenport, NY; bounded north by L. I . Sound;
west by Chudan; south by C.R. 48 ; east by Atwan. County Tax Map
Parcel No. 1000-44-1-19.
The Chairman opened the hearing at approximately 9 :02 p.m.
by reading the appeal application in its entirety, legal notice
of hearing and affidavits attesting to its publication in the
local and official newspapers, Notice of Disapproval from the
Building Inspector, and letter from the Town Clerk that notifica-
tion to adjoining property owners was made;
NICHOLAS D. YUELYS : Ladies and. gentlemen, members of the
board. I would submit on the written application, except I
would like to correct the last sentence in that paragraph one,
the strict application of the ordinance. Where it says, " . . .The
strict application of the ordinance would render the construction
impossible in view of the fact that the erosion of the sound and
the rising of the waters during the winter cannot permit the con-
struction in the rearyard, not the frontyard. Thank you.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Anyone else to speak for this? Anyone to
speak against it? Yes , sir. , Could you use the mike, sir. This
goes on tape and sometimes the tape doesn't pick it up.
MR. ATWAN: My name is Atwan. I'm the neighbor referred to.
I 'm sorry that I missed the original hearing on December the 29th
last. We were in Ohio then. However , I haven' t had an opportunity
to read the transcript, and I must say that it' s fiddled with
details which are both imaginative and interesting. Hardly related
to the truth. For example, it again stated that in 1971. we received
a permit to build an access building. That is not true. Our permit
which was stopped by Mr. Denowski who did the building in 1971 was
to attach a building which existed to the garage. I don' t know the
exact dimensions of it, but I would say that it' s somewhere between
three and three and one-half feet. , We'd submit that any reference
to the two surveys made by Mr. VanTuyl would indicate to the board
if they haven 't already examined it that there were three buildings
on that line. Now they were on that line before we purchased the
property in 1959. I am sure the permit for building them, or per-
mits , would not be granted today under the present rulings. We
have not changed our feelings and our convictions about the build-
ing of the type that our good neighbor asks on the property line
practically immediately adjacent to our building. He stated, for
example, that the hearing in December, that the windows were an
afterthought and additionally were not. Now they were put in by
Mr. Denowski. They' re small . They' re about five feet up from the
floor. They were the awning type and were meant to admit only
light and air and to preserve privacy on both sides of the windows.
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(Appeal No. 2886 - Nicholas D. Yuelys, continued: )
MR. ATWAN . continued:
I don't want to pursue further any of the details of the previous
hearing. It is not a bathroom, and the strict definition of a
term, it is a room built in that area which adjoins which was
attached to the garage which has a sink and a toilet. A bathroom
in my definitions and which I think which would be true in the
common definition would be one with included either a bathtub or
a shower. It does not. It has been referred to as a guesthouse.
It is not. Mrs. Atwan and I are the two who use it and have used
it for some time as completed. We wish that our good neighbors
have found something more innovative .-and imaginative than .trying
to duplicate what we have on our property and had planned to
build it at which we have no objection over on the other side.
Now when I was called in for the original discussion and
the neighbor stopped my, the action to the putting up of the
building, I pointed out several things. One, the proximity to
the buildings which existed on our property constituted a distinct
fire hazard. At least it would increase it because of its proxi-
mity. At the time in that discussion his proposal was to put his
accessory building, now an accessory building and garage, within
a foot or two of our buildings , thereby I suggested to him effec-
tively preventing us from doing any repair work on the westerly
side of those buildings.
It was also suggested that I might, in order to get around the
blockage of light and air, raise the windows. Construction-wise
that would be almost impossible and number two, it would be impos-
sible to move them and to maintain a, or even to replace or repair
the paneling which is on the west wall simply because Southold
Lumber ran a sale on it in 1971, we bought up all they had, and
that' s it, and there ain' t no more getting sold anywhere. So we
could not move those windows.
He then suggested to me that I put a skylight in. Well , I
had been in touch with Fleet Lumber, and _ I talked with Mr. Copin
about a professional installation long before this discussion with
my neighbor, and have ascertained that a professional job, one that
we would want done, would cost us in the proximity $200 to $300 to
install.
Now, if the building were to be moved closer to the west line
which we had hoped would be the case, it would not cost $200 or
$300 to replace the driveway with good clean sods. I 'don't have
any more to add here unless my wife wishes to speak.
MR. CHAIRMAN: You're a prudent man, thank you. Anyone else
to speak against it? Mr. Corwin?
STANLEY S. CORWIN, ESQ. : Mr. Chairman and gentlemen of the
board. My name is Stanley Corwin and my interest in this applica-
tion is two-fold. I have an interest in a piece of property 200
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(Appeal No. 2886 - Nicholas D. Yuelys, continued : )
MR. CORWIN continued:
feet to the west of Mr. Yuelys ' property. And . I 'm also acting in
a legal capacity to Mr. and Mrs. Atwan, and I'd just like to address
myself to the legal aspects of this problem just very briefly..
I should like in the first place to call to the board' s atten-
tion the fact that the appeal from the denial of the application by
the building inspector indicates, for the reason that the provisions
of the zoning ordinance prohibit the location of a garage and an
accessory building in the frontyard, and with respect to that we
don 't have any objection. But there are other provisions of the
zoning ordinance that would govern the location of any building or
any structure that he wanted to put in that area, and I 'm talking
of course about the sideyard and the setbacks. And with respect
to that, the application that he made to the building inspector is
stated not to be in scale. And the application indicates that it
should be. It is a gross distortion as a matter of fact. It does-
n't show anything like the situation really is on the ground.
I 'm not here to draw up on that because I 'm sure that the board
has been at the site at least on one occasions and perhaps others.
And I'm sure you're as aware of it as I am.
Attached to the initial application, however, was a notice to
the Southold Town Board of Appeals. This has to do with the
-regulations with respect to tidal wetlands. And there are five
paragraphs in there, and the applicant marked the third paragraph
which reads as follows, talking about the property:
" , , ,May be located within 300 feet of tidal wetlands; however ,
constructed along the water-lying edge of this property is a bulk-
head less than 100 feet in length. . . . "
That is not so. He should have marked, if anything, the paragraph
below that which indicates that there is no bulkhead or concrete
wall there. Nothing between the high' water. mark and the area
where the present cottage is constructed on the property.
And these distortions and mistakes I call to the board' s atten-
tion just so that you will be aware of it and so that they are a
matter of record before the board. As I indicated when I spoke on
the occasion of the earlier hearing, we think that our neighbor
can make a more appropriate application and the setting of some
kind of a storage building such as admittedly he needs over on
the southwest corner of the premises. We hope that this board
will turn down the present application as they did the last one
and that perhaps he will be pursuaded to make a further applica-
tion for a more appropriate location. Thank you very much.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Thank you very much. Is there anyone else to
speak against it? None. Mr. Yuelys?
MR. YUELYS : At the time -- first let' s go to the Certificate
i of Occupancy that Mr. Atwan mentioned. It' s a matter of public
record. I put the number down there. It will show the date the
Southold Town Board of Appeals -28- October 15 , 1981
(Appeal No. 2886 - Nicholas D. Yuelys, continued: )
MR. YUELYS:
application was applied for. It will show you the plans. It will
show you the date it was completed, the C/O was issued. Since 1973
it was just an ordinary accessory building and there was a space
between that building and the building in the front. It was 'not
used for, anything but an accessory building. Later, in fact he
had put a bunch of garbage in front that he called a Japanese fence,
he has not painted, when he says he wants to maintain the accessory
building in .the back 17 years. He has not done anything on his
side of the property to make mine look nice. But that' s besides
the point. He then took, later on, after 1973 he went and con-
structed. . .he joined the buildings—he knocked it down and put in
his new plywood. . .put the bathroom up—and now he uses it for
sleeping quarters. We've had many complaints with them to remove
the garbage, the ran hits it, do this, do that. That' s not my
problem. My problem is that I need an accessory building. I want
to be a good neighbor. I went over. I explained it to him. If it
was a matter of $200 to put in a window in the front, I would gladly
give him the $200 . He doesn't want the $200 ; but, mainly he' s got
windows in the front. He ' s got windows on the side. That .building
has got more windows than you could think of. Those two little win=
dows in the back don' t mean anything. I offered to move my building
way over, three feet; to get in between the fence if he wants to.
But, again, he refused that.
That letter that you read was in the last application by the
way. It was not on this application. that was submitted. The prior
application that was denied without prejudice because it changed
the character of the neighborhood meant I have to make another
application to overcome that criteria, since the board could have
denied this application and granted me a variance to build on the
other side, if you so desire it. I was to point out in addition
to my written arguments there is a further draw back, mainly that
the access to the frontyard, Candan side, is narrow and steeper
and impossible to bring the boats into the building for storage at
the end of the summer. One of my prime needs. In this town there
-are accessory buildings located on the left side, and right side,
and in my opinion there was a preponderance , there was no prepon-
derance of buildings of any one side. Since they are built to the
convenience and maximum .use of the owners.
In the interests of justice, my dire need for this application
has been shown, and strict application of the zoning law should be
treated equally with; my neighbor' s interest, which result with a
bathroom and building built with what appears to be a violation of
the zoning laws. I have always complied with the law and the
interests of justice should be in my favor in this particular
conflict. I also point out that the complaint was made about my
fence. I took the fence down. If he doesn' t want the fence --- I
put the fence up because I don.' t want him to look in my yard.. I
sit there. . . I eat. At the windows looking at my side. That' s my
argument. Thank you.
Southold Town .Board of Appeals -29- October 15, 1981
(Appeal No. 2886 - Nicholas D. Yuelys, continued : )
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Mr. Yuelys , can I just ask you one question.
It appears that the proposed building that you' re asking for is one
foot off of the east property line, is that correct?
MR. YUELYS: My ,proposed building is equal distant,
equal distance to the distance that his building is. In fact my
building is further away from my side line than his building is.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: But how much is that? How much are you proposing?
Off your property line?
MR. YUELYS : I don't care, one, two, three foot. It doesn't make
much difference to me.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: But what does the application read, Mr . Yuelys?
MR. YUELYS: My application reads the same distance that his side
line is. I want to make it exactly identical to his. But I 'm willing
to move it further. if they want me to. As it for being fire proof, I ' ll
make it out of brick. I' ll make it out of concrete block. I' ll make it
out of anything he wants. This is the first time I 've heard that. I ' ll
make it out of asbestos shingles.
MRS. YUELYS: He never mentioned that before. There are a few
things that he had spoken today that he has never mentioned to us.
The first one we approached him as good neighbors as tried to ask him.
There' s a lot of their—
MR. YUELYS: I cannot build on the other side. That' s my problem.
AIRS. YUELYS: We would gladly do it if we could do it. But it' s
impossible. If you come and see the property, there isn' t sufficient
property there.
MEMBER DOUGLASS: We've seen the property.
MR. - YUELYS : We can' t put the boats up from that -side.
MRS . YUELYS: And you know, it goes on an angle and there' s a
wall there. We' re not asking for that much, I don't think.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Mr. Atwan, did you have .something?
MR. ATWAN: I 'd like to comment first about the last statement_ that
was made about the impossibility of bringing boats up on the east
side of my neighbor' s home, and bring them over to an accessory
building that I hope he would build over on the west line. Right
now, we have a 14-footer and we have the same sailfish or sunfish
identical in size and weight and we bring it up on our east side,
and I roll it out our front gate down the road and into the garage
each winter and have every winter. Now as to the permits and the
illegality, I don ' t know that I 'm wasting your time but it6MS May
1971 and for some reason I have all of the items which Mr. Danowski
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(Appeal No. 2886 — Nicholas D. Yuelys, continued: )
MR. ATWAN continued:
bought at Southold Lumber and other places, all in 1971 to build that
to attach the building to the garage. So the permit he . is correct,
is dated 1973 , and of it was that -- as a matter of fact I never even
knew at the time that there was such a thing as a Certificate of
Occupancy. It just came one day after some discussion I had here at
the town hall when they had the old one. I 'm not going to pursue
other erroneous statements , but as to the not having painted that
side of the building for 17 years , George Ahlers was employed by
us tore-side the building once it was completed. He re-sided it
and put in two Anderson Windows on the one facing the sound and one
facing the east. The whole siding is changed. It was repainted
then and has been repainted since and was before. I suppose was
sticks• in the memory of those who think and state that it was not
painted was the fact that one year when it was painted the paint
was rotten, and it did chip and peel and I never gotto it for about
a year, but it has been painted and is painted now.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Thank you.
MR. YUELYS : You put up the building, it' s still not painted
in the back. In fact we can go tonight and see it. It' s still
unpainted in the back, 17 years.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Well that' s irrelevant any way.
MRS. YUELYS: No. That' s not important.
MR. YUELYS. No. And the plans and the C/O' s are filed, and
can be seen.
MR. CHAIRMAN: No one else to speak on this? I ' ll offer a
resolution closing the hearing and reserving decision until later.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Second.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Goehringer, it was
RESOLVED, to close the hearing and reserve decision in the
matter of Appeal No. 2886 , matter of Nicholas D. Yuelys.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Grigonis , Doyen, Douglass , Goeh-
ringer and Sawicki.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2897 . Application of Victor
L' Eplattenier, Box 361, Peconic, NY (by Rudolph H. Bruer, Esq. )
for Variances: (1) for approval of access, New York Town Law
Section 280-a and (2) to the Zoning Ordinance, Article III,
Section 100-31 .for permission to build new dwelling with insuffi-
cient front and rear yard setbacks at Lake View Avenue and Dickin-
son Street, Peconic, NY; bounded by Dickinson Street; west by
Lake View Avenue; south by Garrido; east by Garrido; further
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Southold Town Board of Appeals -31- October 15 , 1981
(Appeal No. 2897 - Victor L' Eplattenier, continued: )
identified as Subdivision Lots No. 57 and 58 , Peconic Shores
Subdivision Filed Map 654 ; County Tax Map Parcel Item No.
1000-67-3-12.
The Chairman opened the hearing at approximately 9 : 32 p.m.
by reading the appeal application in its entirety, legal notice
of hearing and affidavits attesting. .to its publication in the
local and official newspapers, Notice of Disapproval from the
Building Inspector, and letter from the Town Clerk that notifica-
tion to adjoining property owners was made; fee paid $15 . 00 .
RUDOLPH H. BRUER, ESQ. : Mr. Chairman, members of the board,
ladies. I would like to state I -think there' s been a little
misunderstanding with respect to the application and the way the
adjoining neighbors have. viewed it and have expressed their
opinions in the file. Number one I would like to state for the
record that it is the applicant' s intention that with respect
to the access of the to the property he would intend to come in by
way of Lakeview Avenue and it is his intent not to disturb
Dickinson Street at all. I believe you have a copy of the tax
map there before you and you will notice that Lakeview Avenue comes
around in two directions. It is our intent that we would come
around following the tax map designation 1000-67-3- along Lots
number 1 , 2 , 3 to lot 13 and 12 which is the subject property, and
not come through Huntington Boulevard or where it is shown on the
tax map as Lots No. 6 and 7 . And again we would prefer not to go
down Dickinson Street at all. We would prefer the access as I
just stated. I 'm sure. you've all been out there to the premises,
or some of you have been, and you will notice that there is access
and it' s open the way I just described it., whereas to come down the
other way would be to come down a paper street and destroy probably
some very valuable trees, vegetation. With respect to the setback
again I think I assume you have been out there, some of you have
been out there, and you viewed the property and notice the ditch
and trenches and stuff like that that are there, and based upon
that and in view of it and the desirability of keeping that open
the only .logical spot to put the house is as we propose on our.
map. I believe your file with show that the DEC has refused juris-
diction here, and I believe, I don't know if you have it, that the
location of the wells and pools have been accepted by the Health
Department of Suffolk County with respect as I said, the wells
and cesspools. If you'd like I could submit a copy of the map as
marked up by the Health Department for your' file. •
MR. CHAIRMAN: I think we have one here.
MR. .BRUER: That' s it, there are the Health Department markings ,
and the approval up here.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Right.
MR. BRUER: I 'd like to make a couple further observations
with respect to this property. It is my understanding that the
✓ owner, the applicant here, bought the premises I believe in 1950.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -32- October 15 , 1981
(Appeal No. 2897 - Victor L'Eplattenier, continued: )
MR. BRUER continued:
All right. They had been in single and separate ownership since
that time separated by those -roads and that. I think under the
law, in the case law, and reading on Anderson on zoning he really
is entitled to it as a matter of law, the permit to build. the
house there. The question is where. I believe, as we've submitted
there on the survey that that is the best place for it. And the
access that we described would be the best for the community and
the neighbors and the subject property. I'd like further to state
that granting the application would not in any way jeopardize the
public health, safety and welfare of the community. And I think
that' s about it, unless anybody has any questions. Thank you.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do any of you fellows want to ask Rudy anything
at this time?
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Mr. Bruer, the covert that' s in there now,
the drainage pipe that' s in there now, will remain untouched and
will remain as it is and the building will be placed in the rear
of that, is that correct?
MR. BRUER: That' s my understanding.
MR. L' EPLATTENIER: As shown on the survey.
MR. BRUER: This is the son of the applicant, also. Mr. L'Eplatt-
ni.er.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Anyone else to speak in favor of this application?
MR. L'EPLATTENIER: Just for the record I 'd like to state that
my father has been a resident for the Town of Southold for some 35
years , and recently sold a larger piece of property adjoining this
property across the pond. He spent many thousand hours and many
thousand dollars improving that pond and terrain around it. Inasmuch
as the property was getting much too much for him to handle and was
getting on in age, he decided to sell that property and is now seeking
to build a smaller retirement home on the application before you. He
loves this town and he has put a lot of energy and thought into what
he' s doing and in no way would he even dream of harming the terrain
or violating the rights of the neighbors around him .whom he has known
for many years. He has taught all of us, there are six of us,
children, he has taught all of us through that property a certain
amount of respect and a certain amount of love for the environment
and the beauty of this town. And that' s why I myself purchased
property and have come to bring my children out here to enjoy the
beauty of this town. Again I would .like to say this is a location
that we all have deep in our hearts , and the approval of this
permit would make him very happy and would also provide the town
with a taxpayer who is very sincerely dedicated to upholding and
to carrying out the principles of keeping the environment in good
shape, and in fact intend improving :it. at his own cost.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Thank you. Anyone else? Anyone to speak against it?
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(Appeal No. 2897 - Victor L'Eplattenier, continued: )
STANLEY WAIMEY: I had planned .coming in to object, but in
view of what was said here and as long as the drainage isn't
. affected of the adjoining property. . . I'm_ Stan Waimey, with 50%
ownership of the adjoining development and my wife holds a mort-
gage on it, a 50% mortgage on it. That' s my interest in it. The
property adjoining to the west of us also drains through Mosquito
Commission coverts and ditches and as long as it' s not affected by
the building I have no objection.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Thank you. Yes, ma' am.
KATHY CHAMBERLAND: I came here to object also but have no
objection if the access variance would follow the road indicated
by Attorney Bruer and would not go through the other direction,
which is objectionable to many of the neighbors.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Thank you. Would you give your name to the
secretary?
MRS. CHAMBERLAND: My name is Kathy Chamberland.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Thank you. Anyone else?
MR. WAIMEY: Would these two statements be included?
MR. CHAIRMAN: They are part of the record right now.
MR. WAIMEY: Thank you.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Any questions from any of you members? I 'm
certain that if this board should grant, these conditions would
be in there not to interfere with any drainage, and the access
as stated by the Attorney, and all that would be part of the
decision. So, I ' ll offer a resolution on account of the time
closing the hearing and reserving decision until a little later.
MEMBER SAWICKI. Second.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis , seconded by Mr. Sawicki , it was
RESOLVED, to close the hearing and reserve decision until a
little later in the matter of Victor L'Eplattenier in Appeal
No. 2897 .
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Grigonis, Doyen,. Douglass, Goeh-
ringer and Sawicki.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2889. Application of Alan A.
Cardinale, Bridge Lane, Cutchogue, NY for a Variance to the
Zoning Ordinance, Article VII, Sections 100-70 and 100-71,
Article VI, Section 100-62 , to construct drive-in roof addition
and alteration with an insufficient frontyard and further reduc-
tion of landscaped area, for :bank use. ' Location of Property:
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Southold Town Board of Appeals -34- October 15, 1981
(Appeal No. 2889 - Alan` A. Cardinale , continued : )
North side of Main Road, Mattituck; bounded west by Factory (Rail-
road) Avenue; south by Main Road; north and east by Bethany Cemetery
Association; County Tax Map Parcel No. 1000-142-1-26 .
The Chairman opened the hearing at approximately 9 : 46 p.m.
by reading the appeal application in its entirety, legal notice
of hearing and affidavits attesting to its publication in the
local and official newspapers, Notice of Disapproval from the
Building Inspector, and letter from the Town Clerk that notifica-
tion to adjoining property owners was made; fee paid $15 . 00 .
MR. CHAIRMAN: We have a copy of the survey showing the
proposed plans and copy of the County Tax Map showing this property
and the surrounding properties. Is there anyone here in favor of
this?
ALAN A. CARDINALE: Mr. .Chairman, Ladies and Gentlemen. I 'm
Alan Cardinale. My main purpose in being here naturally is to
answer any questions that you gentlemen or ladies might have rela-
tive to the application, and to explain. . . the reasons are explained
naturally in the letter. I think all of you are aware of the
Shopping Center and the properties surrounding it. I feel this
would be an excellent addition to the Shopping Center and would not
in any way hinder any existing buildings or adjacent owners. If
there are any further questions I could answer, I would be glad to.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you know about how many parking spaces you
are going to be able to provide?
MR. CARDINALE : At the present time George Fisher of the
building department has established them in his report relative
to the square footage for the entire building, in relation to the
number of parking spaces required by Code. And he has submitted
this to Henry Raynor- of the Planning Board, and it is my understand-
ing that on Monday evening I am to be with them for a determination.
It appears according to the report that he made up that we are
within the realm of the parking requirements. But until that meet-
ing I couldn 't say too much more.
MR. CHAIRMAN: That answers that question. Thank you. Anyone
else, thank you, Mr. Cardinale, in case. Is there anyone else that
would like to speak in favor of this?
BALDUR PETER: My name is Baldur Peter. I am the architect
for the Suffolk County National Bank. I have prepared a little
site plan indicating the existing shopping center, the east portion
of the existing shopping center. The Bank takes the end store off
the shopping cneter and in order to function properly it has to
have drive-in facilities. It is of the utmost important for a
bank now a days to have drive-in -facilities and this is the reason
why I was asked to provide as many as I can. The more drive-in
facilities you have the more you serve the public and the customers
in two ways. The customers get served faster and the public , there' s
no back-up possibilities if you have enough drive-in facilities.
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(Appeal No. 2889 - Alan A. Cardinale, continued: )
MR. PETER continued:
In order to, have customer sales, you have to protect the drive-in
facilities where the driver will come. And also the manufacturer
of the drive-in facilities would not guarantee the facilities if
they are not protected but a roof. We have tried and I believe . . .
we have another board over there, if I may. What we have tried to
do is to . . .and this picture too is very well, do not come into
the heavy construction but rather .a very light canopy-type roof
over this drive-in -facilities and you can see actually that one
length of building, the roof is about 241 . so we' re talking. about
roughly an encroachment of 24 by 24 feet into the frontyard, but
not a building, just a light roof construction, blending into the
existing building. In order to achieve and accomplish this safely
we had to slightly modify the existing site plan. We had to create
a ( ) on this end because the only way- to get through here is
to 'be able to get out on the other side you cannot make a U-turn,
and in order to get this we had to get approval from the Department
of Transportation, which we have gotten, so the Department of Trans-
portation has approved this curb cut and also they can see the
back-up, that there' s no creation of hazards to back up on Route 25A.
In order to do it we had to slightly adjust the existing planting
area here. We had to take away about 1800 square feet of planting,
but we tried to compensate for that by creating a plaza entrance
to the bank and planting, sitting area, present area to make it
attractive. And I think it will be much more attractive than at
the present time. You can' see there is a very sad condition--
there ' s not much planting off to this bank. And the only interest
really is to put in a very nice buffer zone between the bank and
the road and also create this little plaza in- front of it. And I
think it is very pleasant for business because of its access to
the shopping center. If a bank were to move in, it would definitely
enhance the shopping center and I believe also the Town of Southold.
Thank you.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: May I see that for one second? Thank you.
MR. PETER: I could leave this here for the board.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: What is the actual square footage usage
you're going to be dealing with here? Do you have any idea?
Within the existing building.
MR. PETER: Within the existing store, I think it was 1400
square feet? What is the square footage of the floor area, of
the bank?
MR. CARDINALE: 3000 square feet.
MR. PETER: It' s an existing store and we don't add anything
else. This is all the--
MEMBER GOEHRINGER Yes. I understand.
MR. PETER: And this is the little fly roof projecting.
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(Appeal No. 2889 - Alan A. Cardinale, continued: )
MR. PETER: It would help if I leave this here, for the
Planning Board?
MR. CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone else to speak for this? Yes?
RAYMOND MASCOLSKI : Ladies , gentlemen. My name is Raymond
Mascolski. I reside in Mattituck and have been associated with
Suffolk County National Bank for the past 32 years. The past few
years I have held the position of Chairman and Chief Executive
Officer. Our bank, I think most you realize who we are, the
East Suffolk .County National Bank located in Riverhead has been
in business since 1890. One of the few remaining locally owned
and locally controlled banks that have been serving the North
Fork and certain well , our market survey indicates that Mattituck
certainly could use another banking facility. We did chose Mr.
Cardinale ' s location, not only because. of he has done during the
past few years in rehabilitating the area, but we feel it would
be to the best interest of the Mattituck area and surrounding
communities to locate there. We feel that by coming to Mattituck
we would be able to continue to serve the North Fork much; much
better than we have in the past and certainly it would be appreci-
ated if the board would look at this application in a most favorable
light. It would be certainly I think to the best advantage , the
economy, and for the good, of all concerned.. Thank you very much.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Thank you. Anyone else? Anyone to speak against
this? Do you know, you spoke about having that meeting with the
Planning Board on Monday, Mr. Cardinale. Is that just an informal
or is that a regular full scale meeting?
MR. CARDINALE: We had an informal meeting with Mr . Raynor,
and he had asked that Mr. Fisher submit this engineer' s report.
He did informally submit it in written form, and since that time
he has asked for a formal report typewritten on their letterhead,
and as I understand it, that is what they have now and will act
upon it Monday night. According to Mr. Fisher, the parking require-
ments are adequate. But how Mr. Raynor ' s board or the board itself
will look upon it will not be determined until Monday.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Thank you. I ' ll offer a resolution closing the
hearing and reserving decision until maybe with can check with'-the
Planning Board and work them both about the same time.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Second.
On motion by Mr . Grigonis , seconded by Mr. Goehringer, it was
RESOLVED, to close the hearing and reserve decision in the
matter of Alan A. Cardinale, Appeal No. 2889 .
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Grigonis, Doyen, Douglass, Goeh-
ringer and Sawicki .
Southold Town Board of Appeals -37- October 15 , 1981
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2890 . Application of Warren E.
Hufe, Jr. and Ellen Hufe, Wells Avenue, Southold, NY (by Rudolph H.
Bruer, Esq. ) (for Cliff Tyler, owner) for a Variance to the Zoning
Ordinance, Article VII, Section 100-70 for permission to utilize
B-1 General Business Zoned premises for manufacturing at 45655
C.R. 48 and Youngs . Avenue, Southold, NY; bounded north by Harris
and Dickerson; west by Youngs Avenue; south by C.R. 48 ; east by
Edson. County Tax Map Parcel Item No. 1000-55-2-16.
The Chairman opened the hearing at approximately 10 :00 p.m.
and ,read the legal notice of hearing and appeal application in
its entirety.
MR. CHAIRMAN: . There' s a letter in here, "in the file, from
the neighboring property owners to the north in favor of this
being granted. Mr: Bruer, do you have anything you would like
to add?
RUDOLPH H. BRUER, .ESQ. : Yes, I would, thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Members of the Board. Ladies. In respect_.to"that letter I have a
copy of it and they state that they respectfully urged the board to
grant the change applied for. The property in question, or it' s our
intention here to show the board tonight that the property cannot be
used for the purposes at set forth in the code for general business.
. The hardship here is an economic one. The problem being that
the building here was put up well before the present zoning ordinance.
I believe you' ll notice that the survey of the premises that you have
shows that it' s dated 1955 before. there was a zoning ordinance in the
town. You will also notice that on that map the structure in question
was a concrete block showroom, and I 've also been informed that it was
used for .manufacturing purposes and retail sales of farm equipment.
I have here the present owner of the premises, Mr. Tyler,--,and
he will answer certain questions. with respect to the financial hard-
ship. Would you tell -the'-board what you paid for the premises and
when you bought it?
MR. TYLER: I bought the property in question in February 1979
for $79,500 .
MR. BRUER: And could you tell the board with what, in your
estimate, the present value of it would be say as a manufacturing--
in other words, you have a contract of sale here, don't you, Mr.
Tyler?
MR. TYLER: Yes, I do.
MR. BRUER: And it' s conditioned upon this property being used
for. manufacturing?
MR. TYLER: That' s correct?
MR. BRUER: And can you tell me what the price is on it as far
as this contract is concerned?
MR. TYLER: $90 ,000..
Southold Town Board of Appeals -38- October 15 , 1981
(Warren E. Hufe, Jr. Appeal No. 2890 continued: )
MR. BRUER: Ok. Can you tell the board something about the
cost that this property cost you in an annual sense? By that I
mean, can you tell us what the approximate annual maintenance
charges are for .the property?
MR. TYLER: Well , maintenance on this property runs approxi-
mately . $3 ,000 a month, and which we have not been able to afford.
We have put about $1,000 to $1,200 a month in, and consequently
the building is falling behind in maintenance.
MR. BRUER: And can you tell the board what the real estate
taxes are for this property?
MR. TYLER: The taxes on this property run $2,200 a year.
MR. BRUER: Is there a mortgage on the premises?
MR. TYLER: Yes, there is.
MR. BRUER: Can you tell me the approximate balance?
MR. TYLER: $642 a month.
MR. BRUER: Then the balance is about?
MR. TYLER: The balance is $56 ,000 - $57,000 .
MR. BRUER: Arid is this property bringing you any income at
this particular point.
MR. TYLER: Well, it brings in some income but to the extent
that I work and it costs me over $20,000 a year to operate this
particular business with mortgage, lights, taxes, insurances, et
cetera, and we bring in about $15, 000 so we' re running about
$5 ,000 behind.
MR. BRUER: Can you tell the board, just to give them an idea,
what it costs for electrical expenses.
MR. TYLER: Oh, the electric bill runs approximately right
now $148 a month.
MR. BRUER: What about your fuel bill?
MR. TYLER: Fuel bill, the building uses approximately 4 ,000
gallons of fuel oil a year.
MR. BRUER: And what are you paying for fuel? -
MR. TYLER: $1. 21.
MR. BRUER: And you-'-do have insurance costs?
Southold Town Board of Appeals -39- October 15, 1981
(Warren E. Hufe, Jr. —Appeal No. 2890 continued: )
MR._ TYLER: Yes. My insurance runs me just on the fire insur-
ance alone almost $600 and then I have all my vehicles, plus com-
pensation. The insurance probably runs me on an average of about
$400 a month.
MR. BRUER: Are there any other expenses that you can think
of with respect to the building?
MR. TYLER: Well you have all the expenses for the building.
MR. BRUER: Have you been able to make a go of it sort of
speak, as a retail operation, repairs and whatever in this business?
MR. TYLER: No. And a lot of that came about by the recession,
or the gas crunch, or the shortage of money and interest rates
going out of sight.
MR. BRUER: Now, were you familiar with the property prior to
say 1957 when it was owned by Fanning and Hausman?
MR. TYLER: To the extent that my father was going to buy it
in 1950 .
MR. BRUER: And do you know what that property was used. at that
time for?
MR. TYLER: Yes. They sold farm equipment, and then they
started making combines and things there, manufacturing.
MR. BRUER: Now, has there presently been an action brought
against you and your wife in respect to the mortgage?
MR. TYLER: Yes, there has.
MR. BRUER: And that' s a foreclosure action?
MR. TYLER: That' s correct.
MR. BRUER: In your opinion would this place as it exists
now, the building, the large building, be good for any type of
retail use?
MR. TYLER: No, I don' t believe that.
MR. BRUER: Have you had the property on the market for any
period of time?
MR. TYLER: For over a year.
MR. BRUER: And have you had any serious approaches for the
purchase other than the one we just discussed?
Southold Town Board of Appeals -40- October 15, 1981
(Warren E. Hufe, Jr. - Appeal No. 2890 continued: )
MR. TYLER: No.
MR. BRUER: Thank ,you very much for now. Gentlemen, I think
this .is one example where it has-,been shown where the property is
not best suited for a retail-type, repair shop on this road. I
also have here I .would like to submit a letter from Tryac, which
is dated October 14th. I' ll give you a copy. I'd like to read
it for the record:
. . .Rudolph H. Bruer, Esq.
Main Road
Southold, New York. 11971
Dear Mr.. Bruer:
You have asked my opinion about the desirability of the
operation of a repair. shop at the northeast corner of
Route 48 and .Youngs Avenue in Southold.
As you know our Company operated from this location from
1965 to 1978. In my opinion, based on present economic
conditions, this location would not be considered as a good
place to operate a repair shop. One of the more -important
reasons is the rapid escalation of operating costs and. the
difficulty in proper utilization of the available space.
The number and location of the access doors and the narrow- .
ness of the building makes it difficult to properly utilize
this space.
I trust this information will be of value.
Very truly yours,
TRYAC TRUCK & EQUIPMENT CO.., INC.
Js/ John A. Cushman, President . . . .
MR. BRUER: I would like to ask Mr. .Albertson, a local real estate
broker, to come up and give some testimony here. Mr. Albertson?
MR. ALBERTSON: Yes.
MR. BRUER: Are you familiar with the property in question
here?
MR. ALBERTSON: Yes, I am.
MR. BRUER: And are you familiar with the general uses,
business uses for .property in the Town of Southold?
MR. ALBERTSON: Yes.
MR. BRUER: And in your opinion, would you give us a reason
why you think the property couldn' t be used for a general business
use such as .retail stores and places of amusement, fish stations ,
Public garage, cabinet shops , et cetera?
Southold Town Board of Anpeals -41- October 15 . 1981
(Warren E. Hufe. Jr. - Appeal No. 2890 continued: )
MR. ALBERTSON:_ Well it' s pretty much proven it couldn' t because
the cabinet shops, for instance, right up the road from it, has gone
down. The building is not built for retail work and it would be a
terrific job to try to change it. over to retail stores. That' s one
reason that it couldn' t be' us_ed. There' s another reason, too. If
you' ll look at the map, anyone to buy that for a retail store knowing
that the County urooerty goes riaht across the corner of it, it takes
the whole front 'of it' off. Actually. the only thing that it can be
used for in my way of seeing it would be for the small manufacturing.
And I can also. say that the man that is trying to buy .it, I think he
has proved himself by the way. he takes care of his properties , and
I think it would be a very much better-looking place if he was
allowed to do this. And I 'm sure he is going to do a good job.
MR. BRUER: Well, isn 't it a fact that the other operations
that are up there on that North Road, Route 48-, are operating in
a General Business Use are buildings and situations that were built
for their particular type of use?
MR. ALBERTSON: Absolutely.
MR. BRUER: And not white elephant, like this is, trying to
be fit into. a ..business use?
MR. .ALBERTSON: Well, I think the proof -of the burden is that
Tryac was there for that many years and it' S a pretty big company,
and. they couldn't stay there, so I think if we're going. to use it
for anything, you've got to let something like this go in there.
MR. BRUER: Thank you, Mr. Albertson. I would like to call
the board' s attention to Anderson on Zoning, and I'd like to point
out to them regarding variances, . I guess it' s Volume No. 2 ,
Section 18.. 20 on page.. 29 , ;';.Effect of Obsolete Improvements. " I 'd
like to read the choice, . It' s a short paragraph:
. .. .A board of zoning appeals may grant a use variance on the
ground of unnecessary hardship where the land is incapable
of yielding a fair return on a conforming use because of
obsolete or dilapidated improvements. Land is a highly res-
tricted residential district, for example, was occupied by
100-year building which were in disrepair. The existence of
the buildings made the land useless. -for purposes permitted
bythe zoning regulations. The board of. zon-ing appeals was
upheld when it granted the landowner a variance to establish
and maintain a riding academy. The . same result was reached
where the applicant' s land was improved by a barn so large as
to render impractical its conversion to a single-family
residence. Similarly, to granting of a variance to build a
gasoline station in a residential district was upheld where
the land was incapable to producing a reasonable return from
a residential .use because of improvements which were .ancient
and unusable for residential purposes. . . .
Southold Town Board of Appeals -42- October 15, 1981
(Warren E. Hufe, Jr. .- Appeal No. 2890 continued: )
MR.. BRUER: In, addition to the other requirements , we have unique
circumstances here due to the fact that the..existing buildings on
the premises , it' s not like it' s vacant land and we were asking
to come in here and put a building on it and use it for manufactur-
ing purposes. It' s unique because of the buildings there.
The ajoining premises, I guess, to the north are, intend to
be residential, and along the road there are none at that side, or
if there are, for instance the gas place, they are there, they
were built and they were suitable for the operation that they have
as a retail business to them.
The property is not going to change the character of the
neighborhood.
I think you are all aware of its present operation. I think
it ' s a credit to the community. It' s an attractive place. I'm
sure he -.will ' take_.care .:of the new place if the board so permits
him. There will be no safety hazards because of this operation.
They basically are moving a low-keyed manufacturing operation from
a mile and a half down the road to this corner. I think it will
be a credit to the community; I believe all the neighbors are in
favor of it. They would prefer that he take it over and more than
likely improve it rather than go the way it' s going.
Does the board have. any questions?
MR. CHAIRMAN: I just had one. Do you know this operation
will be increased much in size and employ more people than where
he is presently?
MR. BRUER: I think the. reason for the purchase of it is to
expand his operation. His operation basically consists of making
small parts for computers.
MR. CHAIRMAN: I imagine it would be the same type, but maybe
you' ll have more machines in there and employ more people?
MR. BRUER: I wouldn't be surprised. I would say that that' s
the purpose of it because-he needs to expand.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Ok. Thank you, Rudy. Anyone else to speak
for this?
MR. HENRY LYTLE: I don' t know Mr. Hufe , but I do want to say
that I have been aware of his place on the North Road there for
some time. It' s a very nice . looking shop, it' s a type of thing
that we need more of in Southold so.�.'I hope you' ll approve it.
(Mr. Lytle:'-is President of the Southold-Peconic Seniors. )
MR. CHAIRMAN:. Thank you. Anyone to speak against this? (None)
I' ll offer a t.esolution closing the hearing and reserving decision.
MEMBER DOUGLASS: Seconded.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -43- October 15, 1981
(Warren E. Hufe, Jr. - Appeal No. 2890 continued: )
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Douglass, it was
RESOLVED, to close the hearing and reserve decision in the
matter of the appeal of Warren E. Hufe, Jr. and Ellen Hufe, Appeal
No. 2890.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Grigonis, Doyen, Douglass,
Goehringer and Sawicki.
APPEAL NO. 2896 . Application of Warren E. Hufe; Jr. and
Ellen Hufe (for. Future Screw, Inc. ) North Road, Southold, NY (by
Rudolph H. . Bruer, Esq. ) for a Special Exception to the Zoning
Ordinance, Article XI, Section 100-118D to use existing two-story
house for dwelling use in a B-1 General Business Zone. Location
of Property.: 45655 County Road 48 (a/k/a 3750 Youngs Avenue) ,
Southold, NY; bounded north by Harris and Dickerson; west by
Youngs Avenue; south by C.R. 48 ; east by Edson; CTM Parcel No.
1000-55-2-16 .
The applicant' s attorney, Mr. . Bruer, agreed to a withdrawal
of the subject appeal application inasmuch as it was the board' s
opinion that the appeal hearing held previously (Appeal No. 2890)
was the proper application for the relief sought.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Sawicki, it was
RESOLVED, that the application of Warren E. Hufe, Jr. and
Ellen Hufe, Appeal No. 2896 , .be withdrawn without prejudice as
requested.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Grigonis , Doyen, Douglass, Goeh-
ringer and Sawicki.
APPEAL NO. 2891. Application of Warren E. Hufe , Jr. and
Ellen Hufe (for Future Screw, Inc. ) , North Road, Southold, NY (by
Rudolph H. Bruer, Esq. ) for a Special Exception to the Zoning
Ordinance, Article VII, Section 100-80 (B) for permission to
utilize subject premises for Light Industrial Use. Location of
Property : 45655 County Road 48 (a/k/a 3750 Youngs Avenue) ,
Southold, NY; bounded north by Harris and Dickerson; west by
Youngs Avenue; south by C.R. 48; east by Edson. County Tax Map
Parcel No. 1000-55-2-16 .
The Chairman. opened the hearing at 10 :33 p.m. and the
board waived. reading the notice of hearing and appeal application. .
The. Chairman asked Mr. Bruer if he had any objection to the
waiving of the reading of the legal notice, et cetera, and Mr.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -44- October 15 , 1981
(Appeal No. 2891 - Warren E. Hufe, Jr. and Ellen Hufe, continued : )
Bruer consented.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Goehringer it
was
RESOLVED, to close the hearing in the matter of Appeal No.
2891, application of Warren E. Hufe, Jr. and Ellen Hufe.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Grigonis , Doyen, Douglass, Goeh-
ringer and Sawicki.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2892. Application. of Peter and
Pat Lenz , Main Road, Peconic, NY for a Variance to the Zoning
Ordinance, Article III, Section 100-35A for permission to con-
struct gate and fence exceeding maximum height limitations at
38350 Main Road, Peconic, NY; bounded northwest by L. I .R.R. ;
southwest by Otto Keil Florists; northeast by Cichanowicz;
southeast by S.R. 25; CTM Parcel No. 1000-85-2-17.
The Chairman opened the hearing at approximately 10:36p.m.
by reading the appeal application in its entirety, legal notice
of hearing and affidavits attesting to its publication in the
local and official newspapers, Notice of Disapproval from the
Building Inspector , and letter from the Town Clerk that notifica-
tion to adjoining property owners was made; fee paid $15 . 00 .
PETER LENZ : Ladies and gentlemen, I 'm Peter Lenz. I don' t know
you are familiar with the property but we can down here two
years ago and established a vineyard and we are coming to the
phase now which is producing the wine. I don' t know if you' re
familiar with the. property. It is to the sense of what it looked,
before, but we have gone through. quite some construction and we
went through the extreme of hiring a very known architect in
designing us an overall design. Since not only the product is
the wine obviously the marketing and the selling of the product
is as important. So obviously the character and the look of the
place has to be of a certain nature and, this is what we are try-
ing to pursue. And the product design was a gate which is. nearly
constructed out of posts, treated lumber posts which we are using
pretty much as posts for the vineyard. We have those posts
the posts are near to all the rest of the buildings as basically
a trellis. And what we are trying to do is basically overgrowing
all those trellises with different varieties of vines so that
actually it will eventually all overgrown. It is pretty customary
in Europe as well as here in vine growing areas that the formal
entrance to a winery is done through a gate. Since the property
here runs very narrow and long, and we don't want to use a multi-
tude of signs indicating to the clientale or to the passerby that
this is a vineyard and we' re trying to attract a person into our
premises ; we feel this gate is unique enough and presents our sign
and attracts enough attention for people to look us up. The sign
is such that it will be part of our label of the wine and feel
it ' s not offensive to anybody. It' s very attractive. It' s from
a natural design and once overgrown we feel will very much blend in
Southold Town Board of Appeals -45-. October 15, 1981
(Appeal No. 2892 - Peter and Pat Lenz , continued: )
MR. LENZ continued:
with the overall area and trees.
MR. CHAIRMAN: How high will the fence be?
MR. LENZ : Well actually it' s really not a fence. All we
want to do is put up a gate. The gate is about an overall span,
I don 't know, do you have the whole thing there?
MR. CHAIRMAN: Well we have this .
MR. LENZ : Well , yes, I _guess it pretty much indicates it.
It' s pretty much as you can see there it' s very very baron and
simple. It is , as I said, round treated lumber posts. It' s I
think about 30-foot wide. We have to build it high enough so
that trucks can get in underneath it. Something else I forgot
to mention. Obviously, since we' re living on the premises and
this sort; of, we have a problem already now, a lot of people
will drive into the premises at any time and the gate will at the
same time provide us a way to .close off the property at times
when we are not open for business. Rather than just going to
a regular simple gate, this is really in the form of our time.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: May I ask a question.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Go right ahead.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Mr. Lenz , although we were down there.
We looked at the site and it' s very hard to determine exactly
where the gate is going to start and stop. . I have a figure,
we have a figure of 18 feet. Is that going to be in back of the
large trees that are on the --
MR. LENZ : It' s right, well perhaps I should show you on
the drawing.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: You' re not going to remove any trees, are
you?
MR. LENZ : Oh no. Heavens no .
MR. LENZ : This is the new road we just put in. And it will
be right from here to here. I .think there 's an electric pole
here from the Long Island LILCO right here. . So it would go from
here and I think the first tree is somewhere here, maybe a little
bit closer somewhere around here. This is basically already
fenced up with a natural split-rail fence type thing. We have
no intention in really fencing the property, per se. As a matter
of fact as you look at the building, this is the continuation, it' s
the same construction as those posts here and everywhere around.
MEMBER DOYEN: What' s the area of the vineyard the vines?
MR. LENZ : Totally unplanted right now. We have 20 acres
planted and we plan another five.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -46-. October 15 , 1981
(Appeal No. 2892 - Peter and Pat Lenz , continued: )
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Now this east line, or the east side here. . .
the stanchion for the gate in question would be almost even with
the split-rail fence that exists there?
MR. LENZ: Yeah.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Ok. And the other side will be just pulled
back a little bit farther like this .
MR. LENZ : It will be pretty much in line of what the split
rail fence is now on both sides. It will basically continue and go
to the split rail fence.
MR. CHAIRMAN: 'Anyone else to speak for this?
JIM McGARRY: Good evening. I 'm Jim McGarry, and filled out
the application for the variance. Having worked on this project
since the beginning, I would say that the gate becomes a very impor-
tant part of it. It ties the whole thing together. It not only
gives a trademark to the land but it brings every into prospective
at this time. It just seems it' s empty without the gate, and it
would be a great improvement for the area. I think it' s a .very
important part of this project. Thank you.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Anyone else to speak for this? Anyone to
speak against it? I ' ll offer a resolution granting this as
applied for.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Second.
The board made the following findings and determination:
(see next page 47)
Southold Town Board of Appeals -47- October 15, 1981 Regular
Meeting
(Appeal No. 2892 - Peter and Pat Lenz , continued: )
By :this appeal, appellants seek.-permission to erect and
entrance gate with fence approximately 18 . feet from the Main
Road and with a height of approximately 18 feet. The premises
in question contains an area of approximately 27 acres with
382 . 35 feet fronting the Main Road. It. is the consensus of
the Board that the structure as proposed and shown on the
plans submitted with the appeal application will enhance the
entire area.
In considering this appeal , the Board determines that the
variance request is not substantial; that the circumstances
herein are unique and the practical difficulties have been shown;
that by allowing the variance no substantial detriment to adjoin-
ing properties would be created; that the difficulty cannot be
obviated by a method, feasible to appellant, other than a variance;
that no adverse effects will be produced.-on available governmental
facilities of any increased population; that the relief requested
will be in harmony with and promote the general purposes of the
zoning code; and that the interests of justice will be served by
allowing the variance.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Goehringer, it
was
RESOLVED, that the relief applied for in Appeal No. 2892,
application of Peter and Patricia Lenz be granted, SUBJECT TO
REFERRAL TO THE SUFFOLK COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION PURSUANT TO
SECTIONS 1323, ET SEQ. OF THE SUFFOLK COUNTY CHARTER.
Location of Property: 38350 Main Road, Peconic, NY; County
Tax Map No. 1000-85-2-17.
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Messrs. Doyen, Douglass, Goeh-
ringer, Sawicki and Grigonis. This resolution was -unanimously
adopted.
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Southold Town Board of Appeals -48- October 15, 1981
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2893 . Application of Stanley J.
Fliss , Jr. for Mattituck Air Base, 840 Bray Avenue, Mattituck, NY
for a Variance to the Zoning Ordinance, Article VIII, Section 100-80
for permission to construct addition to office building with an
insufficient frontyard at 410 Airway Drive, Mattituck; bounded
north by Bagshaw, Wickham; west by Peconic Corp. ; south by Park
Avenue; east by Wickham, Parkin, Tandy, Kujawski; County Tax Map
Parcel No. 1000-123-1-2.
The Chairman opened the hearing at approximately 10 :46 p.m.
by reading the appeal application in its entirety , legal notice
of hearing and affidavits attesting to its publication in the
local and official newspapers, Notice of Disapproval from the
Building Inspector, and letter from the Town Clerk that notifica
tion to adjoining property owners was made; fee paid $15 . 00 .
MR: CHAIRMAN: We have a copy of the proposed addition and
copy of the County Tax Map showing this property and the surround-
ing area. Is there anyone here to speak for this? Airway Drive,
is that a private road?
STANLEY J. FLISS: It was , but I think the Town did take it
over.
MR. CHAIRMAN: On the tax map it looks like it just goes to
pretty near your use, it looked like.
MR. FLISS : Originally I think it was. I think the Town did
take it over because they maintain it.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Stan, what is the actual square footage
of the addition, do you have any idea?
MR. FLISS : Of just the proposed addition? I don' t recall.
I think it' s on one of those things.
MR. CHAIRMAN: No , it doesn't on this. 432 square feet.
It ' s on here. Did anyone else have any questions? Go ahead, Bob.
MEMBER DOUGLASS : Is there any practical reason that your
extension couldn't go north instead of east?
MR. FLISS : In practicality, all the offices are essential
right there. What we're trying to do is keep everything in pat.
In other words , if they build in either direction other than up
the offices would be divided. Because the lobby is to the south.
And then they have the shipping which is to their immediate north
right now. So the only direction he could go in this instance is
either up, which would be much too expensive. for such little square
feet, or closer to the road. And that' s what they propose.
MEMBER DOUGLASS: You couldn' t go to the north, tie it in to
the north on the building?
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(Appeal No. 2893 - Mattituck AirBase, continued:)
MR. FLISS: North is their shipping department. They would
have to relocate their shipping department which is creating
another addition. The only way that they can go is either to
the east, which is towards the road and we' re trying to keep it
within 15 feet of the road, or a second story over the existing
office.
MR. CHAIRMAN: You see, that' s where they load right there.
There ' s a platform in there. Anyone to speak for or against this? (None)
On motion by Mr. Grigonis , seconded by Mr. Goehringer, it was
RESOLVED, to close the hearing and reserve decision in the
matter of Mattituck Air Base, Appeal No. 2893.
Vote of the Board : Ayes : Grigonis, Doyen; Douglass , Goeh-
ringer and Sawicki.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2895. Application of Katherine Ebert
for Mattituck Holding Corp. , Mattituck, NY (by Norman A. Reilly as
agent) , for a Variance ,for approval of access, New York Town Law Sec-
tion 280A. Location of Property : Right-of-way off West Mill Road,
Mattituck, NY; bounded north by Mill Road and Killian; west by
Leogrande and Cox Neck Road; south by Chudiak, McGunnigle, Zeigler,
DeMaula and North Drive; east by Mattituck Creek; and near Boscola.
County Tax Map Parcel No. . 1000-106-6-part of 13 . 3.
The Chairman opened the hearing at approximately 10 : 49 p.m.
by reading the appeal application in its entirety, legal notice
of hearing and affidavits attesting to its publication in the
local and official newspapers, Notice of Disapproval from the
Building Inspector, and letter from the Town Clerk that notifica-
tion to adjoining property owners was made; fee paid $15 . 00 .
MR. CHAIRMAN: Mr. Reilly , would you like to add anything
to the application?
NORMAN A. REILLY: I think you have been on the site and
saw what the problem is. There is a road there. It has been
oiled, maintained by the Mattituck Holding Company and the prop-
erty is to the east side of the existing lot that we wanted to
build on. We' re asking for permission to use that road as the
access road. I think the houses have been there at least probably
then years if I 'm not mistaken. Mr. Fisher wanted an official
approval on this roadway.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Thank you. Anyone else to speak for this?
Anyone to speak against it? Any questions from any members of
the board? (None) ' I ' ll offer a resolution closing the hearing
and reserving decision until a later time.
' Southold Town Board of Appeals -50- October 15, 1981
(Appeal No. 2895 - Mattituck Holding Co. (Katherine Ebert) , continued: )
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Second.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Goehringer, it was
RESOLVED, to close the hearing and reserve decision until a
later time in the matter of Katherine Ebert, and Mattituck HOlding
Corp.
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Grigonis, Doyen, Douglass, Goeh-
ringer and Sawicki.
RECESSED HEARING: Appeal No. 2874 . Application of Matthew
McKiernan, 970 Gin Lane, Southold, NY for a Variance to the.
Zoning Ordinances Art. III, Sec . 100-31 for permission to con-
struct new dwelling with an insufficient frontyard setback at
premises located at the east. end of Beachwood Lane, Southold;
bounded north and east by Beachwood Lane; south by Goose Creek;
west by Meringold; County Tax Map Parcel .No. 1000-70-10-60 .
This hearing was recessed from the last regular meeting of
the board, to wit, September 17 , 1981 .
MR. CHAIRMAN: We have letters that have come in since the
last hearing. We have a letter from Southwood Property Owners
Association, Inc. :
. . .October 14 , 1981
. . .To whom it may concern:
The members of the above-named Association do hereby oppose
the granting of any variances for the proposed construction
on Lot Number fifty-three, Map of Southwood, Southold, New
York, which directly conflicts with the covenants and res-
trictions of said property dated November 24 , 1953 and
extended to June 26 , 1983 .
Respectfully submitted,
Southwood Property Owners Assn Inc.
Edward A. Lademann, Jr. , President. . . .
The following letter was presented to the board:
October 15, 1981
Gentlemen:
I submit herewith my certified copy of commitment for title
insurance under Chicago Title Insurance Company ' s policy
No. 8108-273343.
This submission is made at the request of your office. I
once, again reiterate that I do not represent the applicants,
Mr . and Mrs. McKiernan, in their appeal before your board.
I am the attorney for Mr. and Mrs. McKiernan solely in con-
nection with the purchase of the subject parcel.
/s/ William H. Price, Jr. . . .
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(Appeal No. 2874 - Matthew McKiernan, continued: )
MR. CHAIRMAN: I don't know where this is going to wind up.
We' ll have to go to court somewhere to find out for sure about
these covenants. We can't act on covenants. Is there anyone here
that wishes to speak further on the matter?
ED HEINS : Excuse me, Mr. Chairman, but am I under the impres-
sion that this letter that Mr. McKiernan has submitted says that
these restrictions are not registered in Riverhead.
MR. CHAIRMAN: This is the letter that Mr. Price sent in,
the attorney.
MR. HEINS : And he checked in Riverhead for these? Because
we have this documentation in our files with the Association that
this was renewed and is extended for another, well the completion
is 1983. And this is registered in Riverhead. All of those
restrictions as well as the Association.
MR. CHAIRMAN: This is a thing from the title company here
that Mr. Price got his stuff from and they sent him copies of it.
MR. _ Mr. Chairman. Back when the development first
started, all the restrictions and covenants came with each plot of
land that was sold. When enough people bought land in there, they
formed the Association and continued all these restrictions on all
the land, and covenants. The people built all their houses in
there and complied everything according to all the restrictions.
And that it still goes to 1983. As long as they have the Associa-
tion and the Association votes to continue all the restriction,
I can' t see why they say that it was not being filed in Riverhead.
And it was being ok'd by the Town Board when it was first started.
It' s still in effect. It was never withdrawn'.
HAROLD HAUPT: Also, to add to that we have had counsel and
they have, I don' t know where Mr. Price got his information, but
our counsel has investigated this and they said that we are fully
backed by our application that is in at Riverhead now. They said
we have no problems whatsoever.
MR. CHAIRMAN: It' s the first time I 've ever seen one of
these papers. I don't know which end is which on it. Could you
get us a copy of that (covenants . renewed to 1983) and bring it in
some time and drop it off to Linda? Certified by somebody, an
official in the County' Clerk' s office? This is a title search
thing but it doesn' t say anything in here about the covenants.
Does an�.body have anything else to add before we fall asleep here?
Yes?
MR.. .McKiERNAN: I 'm mo expert, but I had that title search
done with the idea in mind to buy the property naturally. Accord-
ing to the title company, the title has no covenants and restrictions.
But the letter that you read we think it' s really, it is really our
intention not to buy it if the covenants and restrictions -- If we
can build a house and meet all the covenants and restrictions with
exception to setback which is the purpose of this application, what
more can I say.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -52- October 15, 1981
(Appeal No. 2874 - Matthew McKiernan, continued: )
MR. CHAIRMAN: Anyone else to speak? Bob, Joe? Anything else?
(None) I ' ll offer a resolution closing the hearing and reserving
decision until maybe we can get a certified copy back.
MR. McKIERNAN: Can I ask a question? How long does that
reserving decision take? Obviously we want to make a decision.
We want to invest our money into it and want to do some building
before it gets cold.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Well , we've got several that we have reserved
tonight and we 're going to have to have a special meeting some time
within the next -- It will be before the next meeting, well before
it. And as soon as we get that paper from these people, then we
can go ahead right away as soon as we can get together after. that.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Second.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Goehringer, it was
RESOLVED, to close the hearing and reserve decision in the .
matter of Matthew McKiernan, Appeal No. 2874 .
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Grigonis , Doyen, Douglass , Goeh-
ringer and Sawicki.
INFORMAL DISCUSSION. Richard J. Cron, Esq. and Dr. Arthur
Schwartz, M.D. appeared informally before the board to discuss
the board' s decision rendered August 24 , 1972 in Appeal No. 1632
concerning Dr. Schwart' s right-of-way. On September 29 , 1981
Dr. Schwartz applied for a building permit to construct a new
one-family dwelling. Mr . Hindermann, Building Inspector issued
a Notice of Disapproval dated October 2 , 1981 on the following
grounds : Access road (r-o-w) has not been. improved to the
requirements of Town Law, Section 280A, and Board of Appeals
conditions , Appeal No. 1632 , dated August 24 , 1972 for Ruth Sloan
Gimbernat. On October 9 , 1981 correspondence was received by
the chairman indicating the above and that Mr. Hindermann has
suggested that Dr. Schwartz mention that 280-A of the code had
not been followed through by Mrs. Gimbernat and that no report
of final inspection of the road was on file with the building
department. The chairman and. the board members explained what
the normal requirements of the ZBA are for all road improvements
before them for 280-A approval. The board was informed that the
applicant will be filing for a variance asking for a waiver of
the road improvement requirements in the near future.
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Meeting
RESERVED DECISION: Appeal No. 2895. Application of Katherine
Ebert for Mattituck Holding Corp. , Mattituck, New York (by Norman A.
Reilly as agent) , for a Variance for approval of access , New York
Town Law Section 280-A. Location of Property: Right-of-Way off
West Mill Road, Mattituck, NY; bounded north by Mill Road and Kil-
lian; west by LeoGrande and Cox Neck Road; south by Chudiak, Mc-
Gunnigle , Zeigler, DeMaula and North Drive; east by Mattituck
Creek; and near Boscola. County. Tax Map Parcel No. 1000-106-6-
part of 13. 3 .
A public hearing was held earlier this evening concerning
this appeal and closed, pending this decision.
By this appeal, appellant seeks approval of access over a
right-of-way shown to be 30 feet in width on survey for appellant
dated July 27, 1981. The right-of-way extends south and south-
easterly from West Mill Road past appellant' s property, and is
and has been utilized for access to the residence now or formerly
of Boscola adjacent southerly to the appellant' s property. It
is the feeling of the Board that this right-of-way should be
improved to the normal road .specifications adopted by this Board
on March 22, 1979.
In considering this appeal, the Board determines that the
variance request is not substantial; that the circumstances
herein are unique and the practical difficulties have been shown;
that by allowing the variance no substantial detriment to adjoin-
ing properties would be created; that the difficulty cannot be
obviated by a method, feasible to appellant, other than a variance;
that no adverse effects will be produced on available governmental
facilities of any increased population; that the relief requested
will be in harmony with and promote the general purposes of the
zoning code; and that the interests of justice will be served by
allowing the variance.
On motion by Mr. Goehringer, seconded by- Mr. Grigonis, it
was
RESOLVED, that the access be approved as requested in
Appeal No. 2895 by .Katherine Ebert for Mattituck Holding Corp. ,
SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS :
1. Such access road must have a width of not less than
15 feet and be cleared of all trees, brush and other obstructions
to a width of 15 feet.
2. Such access road shall be improved in either of the
following two methods :
(a) Surfaced with a minimum depth of four inches of
packed three-quarter-inch stone blend so as to afford access for
emergency vehicles. Such stone blend may be either applied to
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the ground surface and shaped, or the surface may be excavated to
permit the application of packed blend to a depth of four inches,
OR
(b) Have .topsoil removed to a depth of eight inches and
then filled with eight inches of a good grade stone and sand bank
run. The surface shall then be covered with a layer of two to
four inches of three-quarter-inch stone blend,. or in the alternative
oiled .with a minimum of four-tenths. of a gallon of road oil per
square yard.
3. No certificate .of occupancy shall be issued for the con-
struction of any buildings- or structures, or any existing buildings
or structures, on the premises to which this access is referred
until all of the conditions set forth herein have been complied with.
4. Where the terrain of the land over which such access road
is .traversed is such that drainage problems may occur, the applicant
and/or owner shall be required to construct such drainage facilities
as may be recommended by the Town Engineer.
5. That this access road be approved by the Board of Appeals,
Town Inspector or Town Engineer, or Town Building Inspector as to
meeting the above requirements .
Location of Property: Off a private right-of-way off the
West Mill Road, Mattituck, NY; County Tax Map .Parcel No. 1000-106-6-
part of 13. 3.
Vote of the Board.: Ayes: Messrs. Doyen, Douglass, Goehringer,
Sawicki and Grigonis. This resolution was unanimously adopted.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -55- . Octobbr::15, 1981
Regular Meeting
RESERVED DECISION: Appeal No. 2890. Application of
Warren E. Hufe, Jr. and Ellen Hufe., Wells Avenue, Southold,
NY (by Rudolph H.. Bruer, Esq. ) for a Variance to the Zoning
Ordinance, Article VII, Section 100-70 for permission to
utilize B-1 General Business Zoned premises for manufacturing
at 45655 C.R. 48 and Youngs Avenue, Southold, NY; bounded
north by Harris and Dickerson; west by Youngs Avenue; south
by C.R. 48 ; east by Edson. County Tax Map Parcel Item No.
1000-55-2-16 .
A public hearing was held earlier this evening concerning
this appeal.
The Board made the following findings and determination:
Appellants by this appeal seek a variance to permit the
use of the subject premises for industrial purposes, to wit,
manufacturing. of" .sma-1:1 °.mechanicai '.parts:.pr.incipally in the
large concrete-block"showroom" building. Also existing on
the premises are a two-story frame building and steel storage
building. The premises in question contains an area of
approximately 37,700 square feet and is a corner lot with
approximately 244 . 85 feet along County. Road 48 and 132. 93
feet along Railroad Avenue (Youngs Avenue) . The premises
is in a B-1 General Business District.
. In. considering this appeal, the Board determines that
the variance. if -allowed will not produce adverse effects on
available governmental facilities of any increased population;
that the circumstances herein are unique and that an economic
hardship has been shown; that the variance request is not
substantial in relation to the code requirements for uses
within this business zone; that the relief requested will be
in harmony with and promote the general purposes and intent
of the zoning code; that the use will not prevent the orderly
and reasonable use of adjacent properties or of properties in
adjacent use districts; that the use will not prevent the
orderly and reasonable use of permitted or legally established
uses in the district wherein the proposed use is to be located,
or of permitted or legally established uses in adjacent use
districts; that the safety, health, welfare, comfort, conven-
ience and order of the town will not be advsersely affected by
the proposed use and its location; and that the interests of
justice will be served by allowing the variance.
On motion by Mr. Douglass, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it
was
RESOLVED, that a variance to the zoning ordinance as
applied for-in-Appeal No. 2890 , application of WARREN E.
HUFE, JR. and .ELLEN HUFE, be granted,."SUBJECT..TO THE FOLLOW-
ING CONDITIONS:
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(Appeal No. 2890 - Warren E.. Hufe, Jr. and Ellen Hufe continued: )
(1) That no work be--.done or materials displayed or stored
outside of the building[s] , and
(2) That this matter be referred to the Suffolk County
Planning Commission pursuant to Sections 1323 , et seq. of the
Suffolk County Charter.
Location of Property: 45655 C.R. 48 and Youngs Avenue,
Southold, NY; County Tax Map Parcel Item No. 1000-55-2-16 .
Vote of the Board: Ayes:. Messrs. Doyen, Douglass,
Goehringer, Sawicki and Grigonis.
This resolution .was unanimously adopted.
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Meeting
RESERVED DECISION: Appeal No. 2891. Application of Warren E.
Hufe, Jr. and Ellen Hufe (for Future Screw, Inc. ) , North Road,
Southold, NY (by Rudolph H. Bruer, Esq. ) , for a Special Exception
to the Zoning Ordinance, Article VII, Section 100-80 (B) for permis-
sion to utilize the subject premises for Light Industrial Use. Lo-
cation of Property: 45655 County Road 48 (a/k/a 3750 Youngs Avenue) ,
Southold,, NY; bounded north by Harris and Dickerson; west by Youngs
Avenue; south by C.R. 48 ;. east by Edson. County Tax Map Parcel No.
1000-55-2-16 .
A public hearing was held and closed earlier this evening con-
cerning this appeal, at which time decision was reserved until a
later time.
By this application, applicants seek permission to use premises
for "light industrial use" to allow the operation of a manufacturing
plant for small mechanical parts, principally in the large concrete-
block "showroom building. " Existing on the premises are a two-story
frame building, steel storage building, and the large concrete-block
"showroom" building. The premises in question contains an area of
approximately 37,700 square feet, is a corner lot with approximately
244. 85 feet along County Road 48 and 132. 93 feet along Railroad
Avenue (Youngs Avenue) , and is zoned "B-1 General Business. "
The'.Board finds -.and .determines that the within application for
a Special Exception to the Zoning Ordinance, Section 100-80B is
not appropriate in that Section 100-80B applies to properties
presently zoned "C-Light Industrict. The property in question is
zoned "B-1 General Business. " It should .be noted in this record
that applicants have applied simultaneously to this Board, in
Appeal No. 2890 for a Variance requesting the. same relief applied
herein.
On motion by Mr. Goehringer, seconded- by Mr. Sawicki, it was
RESOLVED, for the above reasons, that she subject application,
No. 2891, be dismissed
Vote of . the Board:.. Ayes: Messrs. Doyen, Douglass, Goehringer,
Sawicki and Grigonis. This resolution was unanimously adopted.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -58- October 15 , 1981
RESERVED DECISION: Appeal No. 2886 . Application of Nicholas D.
Yuelys, 56005 County Road 48, Greenport, NY for a Variance to the
Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section 1007-32 for permission to con-
struct accessory building (garage) in the frontyard. area at 56005
County Road 48 , Greenport, NY; bounded north by L. I. Sound; west by
Chudan; south by C.R. 48 ; east by Atwan. County Tax Map Item No.
1000-44-1-19.
Earlier this evening a public hearing was held and closed.
The Board made the following findings and determination:
Appellant has appealed .to this Board seeking a variance to
construct an accessory building, to wit, garage, in the frontyard
approximately 13 feet north of the County Road and approximately
two feet from the easterly property line. Section 100-32 of the
Zoning Code permits the construction of an accessory building in
the rearyard and such building . shall be set back not less than
three feet from any lot line.
The premises in question is a parcel of land located on the
north side of County Road 48, Greenport (Suffolk County Tax Map
District 1000 , Section 44, _Block:..1, Lot 19) ; and is bounded on
the north by L.I. Sound; west by Candan; south by County Road 48 ;
east by Atwan. There. is presently erected on the lot a private
one-family dwelling. The dwelling is set back approximately 30
feet. The lot contains an area of approximately 66 ,50 square feet.
Appellant previously applied to this Board to locate the
accessory :structure (storage building) in approximately the same
location as applied for herein. The previous appeal (No. 2769 was
denied without prejudice on December 29 , 1980 , one of the reasons
being the location did not appear to be the most feasible under
the circumstances.
The existing dwelling contains a square footage of approxi-
mately 1,020 square feet and the proposed accessory garage would
contain an area of approximately 360 square feet.
Appellant' s house is so situated on the lot such that the
width of the easterly' side yard is approximately eight feet, and
the width of the side yard at the west of the house is approximately
five feet at its nearest point. Appellant in his appeal has set
forth the reasons for locating the accessory building as applied
rather than in the required rear yard. All of the members of this
Board have visited the site and are familiar with the structure
located thereon as well as the terrain and the closeness of the
waters of the L. I. Sound.
Appellant has testified that he does not wish to locate the
accessory building in any .area:.other than as applied, and the
Board does not agree with appellant' s reasoning on this particular
location.
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The Board finds and .de:termines that a detriment to adjoining
properties will be created if the variance is granted as . applied
for; that a substantial .change in the .character::of the neighbor-
hood will be produced; that a more feasible location of the
proposed structure may be obtained under the circumstances;
that the structures would exceed the maximum permitted 20% lot
coverage requirements of the zoning code; and that the interests
of justice would not be served by granting the variance as applied
for. However, the Board .does recognize the. appellant' s need for a
storage facility but. .does .not . agree with this specific location.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis , seconded by Mr. Douglass, it was
RESOLVED, that the application of Nicholas D. Yuelys, in
Appeal No. 2886 be denied .as. applied for.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Doyen, Douglass, Goeh-
ringer, Sawicki and Grigonis.
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Meeting
RESERVED DECISION: Appeal No:.. 2784:..
Upon application of Robert T. Bayley,
55 West 16th Street, New York, NY 10011 (Robert W. Gillispie, III
as agent) for a Rehearing for approval of access, New York Town
Law, Section 280-a. Location of Property: Right-of-Way off the
East Side of South Harbor Road, Southold, NY; bounded north by
Stewart and Freund; west by Paul; south by Bay; east by Ballenger;
County Tax Map Parcel No. 1000-87-1-21.
A public hearing was held earlier this evening concerning
this application, at which time the hearing was closed after
receiving testimony and comments and decision reserved until a
later time.
By letter dated May 12, 1981 to this board, applicant has claimed
practical difficulties in complying with this board' s decision
dated April 30 , 1981 and rendered April 2, 1981, wherein this
board granted approval of access subject to several conditions.
Applicant asserts that the right-of-way over which he has requested
this board' s approval is not owned by him and that portion over
which he has a right to use for access is less than 15 feet wide.
Conditions (a) and (b) of this board's decision rendered April 2,
1981 requires applicant to improve the right-of-way for a minimum
width of 15 feet accordingly to certain road specifications.
By unanimous resolution of this board taken at a special meeting
held May 22 , 1981 , this board determined that a rehearing be held.
A public hearing was held on October 15, 1981.
After hearing all testimony and reviewing all documentation con-
cerning this application, the Board finds that applicant appears
to have a legal right over a "right-of-way in common with others
for all purposes over "Old Woods Road" , commencing at the point
where an. extension due west of the southerly line of the roadway
last above-described intersects the westerly line of said "Old
Woods Road" and running in a northwesterly direction over the
entire width of said "Old Woods Road" to and from South Harbor
Road. " The Board also finds that applicant has a right over a
"right-of-way for ingress and egress from the northerly portion
of the subject premises (1000-87-1-21) to South Harbor Road, as
designated in deed recorded at Liber 8039 page 380 . Upon review-
ing a February 26 , 1970 survey for a parcel along the subject
right-of-way (Ralph Lavinia, and now or formerly of Pierson) ,
the Board finds that the right-of-way appears to have a .width of
approximately 11 feet at its intersection with South Harbor Road,
and gradually widening as it extends towards the subject property,
having a width of approximately 30 feet at a point approximately
450 feet from South Harbor Road easterly. It is the feeling of
this board that the road can be improved and should be maintained
for emergency vehicles and others.
The Board finds that the relief requested is not substantial;
that the practical difficulties are unique and no substantial
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(Appeal No. 2784 - Robert T. Bayley continued)
change in the character of the neighborhood will be created by
the granting of the relief requested; that the relief requested
is within the spirit of the zoning ordinance and town law; that
no adverse effects will be produced on available governmental
facilities of any increased population; and that the interests
of justice will be served by allowing the variance as specified
below.
On motion by Mr. Goehringer, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it
was
RESOLVED, that Robert T. Bayley be granted a .variance for
approval of access, New York Town Law, Section 280-a, .SUBJECT TO
THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS:
(1) That the access road shall be improved- and unobstructed
for a minimum width of .ten feet from a point at the easterly side
of South Harbor Road and extending easterly approximately 450 feet
(where the right-of-way is shown to be 30+- feet wide) ;
(2) That the access road shall be improved and unobstructed
for .a minimum width of 15 feet from a point approximately 450 feet
easterly from its intersection with South Harbor Road and extending
to the subject premises;
(3) That the entire access road shall be improved in EITHER
of the following two methods :
(a) Surfaced with a minimum.-depth of four inches of
packed three-quarter-inch stone blend so as to afford access for
emergency and other vehicles. Such stone blend may be either applied
to the ground surface and shaped, or the surface may be excavated to
permit the application of packed blend to a depth of four inches; OR
(b) Shall have topsoil removed to a depth of eight inches
and then filled with eight inches of a good grade stone and sand bank
run. The surface shall then be covered with. a layer of two to four
inches of three-quarter-inch stone blend, or in the alternative, oiled
with a minimum of four-tenths of a gallon of road oil per square yard.
(4) That no certificate of occupancy shall be issued for this
parcel to which this access is referred until all of the conditions
set forth herein have been complied with.
(5) Where the terrain of the land over which such access road
is traversed is such that drainage problems may occur, the applicant
is required to construct such drainage facilities at any time same
is recommended by the Town Engineer.
(6) That this access road. be approved by the Board of Appeals,
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-Meeting
(Appeal No. 2784 - Robert T. Bayley continued: )
Town Inspector or Engineer, or Town Building Inspector as to meeting
all the above requirements, and that a copy of said approval be fur-
nished to the office of this board.
Location of Property: . Right-of-way off the east side of South
Harbor Road, Southold; County Tax Map Parcel No. 1000-87-1-21.
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Messrs. Doyen, Douglass, Goehringer,
Sawicki and Grigonis. This resolution was unanimously adopted.
APPEAL NO. 2846 . PATRICIA A. BAILEY. On September 17, 1981
the board closed the hearing, pending decision upon. receipt of an
up-to-date certified survey showing the square footage of proposed
Lots 1 and 2 and. showing the existing structures with.. setback
distances. Letter was .forwarded to the applicant on September 23 ,
1981, 'and to date the material requested has not been submitted
for consideration.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -63- October 15, 1981 Regular
Meeting
RESERVED DECISION: Appeal No. 2882. Application of Toba Laja
Orro, 187 Berry Hill Road, Syosset, NY 11791, for a Variance to the
Zoning Ordinance, Article III,. Section 100-31. for permission to
build new house with insufficient front and rear yard.. area at 435
Cleaves Point Road (a/k/a 1945 East- Gillette- Drive) , East Marion,
NY; Marion Manor Subdivision, Filed Map No. 2038 , Lot No. 83; fur-
ther identified as County Tax Map Parcel Item No. 1000-38-4-27.
A public hearing was held earlier this evening concerning
this appeal.
By this appeal, appellant seeks permission to construct a new
one-family dwelling with &..frontyard.°.setback off Cleaves Point
Road of approximately 36 . 5 feet, frontyard setback off East Gil-
lette Drive of approximately 24. 5 feet, and rearyard setback of
approximately 15 feet from the easterly property line. The
premises in question is a corner lot as defined by Section
100-13 of the Code and lends itself to the . practical difficulties
in constructing any dwelling thereupon. The Board agrees with
the reasoning of appellant.
In considering this appeal, the Board determines that the
variance request is not substantial; that the circumstances
herein are unique and .the practical difficulties have been shown;
that by allowing the variance no substantial detriment to adjoin-
ing properties would be created; that the difficulty cannot be
obviated by a method, feasible to appellant, other than a variance;
that no adverse effects will be produced on available governmental
facilities of any increased population; that the relief requested
will be in harmony with and promote the general purposes of the
zoning code; and that the interests of justice will be served by
allowing the variance.
On motion by Mr. Sawicki, seconded by Mr. Grigonis , it was
RESOLVED, that Toba L. Orro, be allowed a .variance to the
zoning ordinance, Article III, . Section 100-31 as requested in
Appeal No. 2882. It should be noted that a conditional variance
under Appeal No. FL-7 has also been filed.- concerning this
property.
Location of Property: 435 Cleaves Point Road (a/k/a 1945
East Gillette Drive) , East Marion, NY; County Tax Map Parcel
No. 1000-38-4-27.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Doyen, Douglass , Goeh-
ringer, Sawicki and Grigonis. This resolution was unanimously
adopted.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -64- October 15, 1981
RESERVED DECISION: Appeal No. FL-7. Application of Toba Laja
Orro, 187 Berry Hill Road, Syosset, NY for a Variance to. the Flood
Damage` Prevention Law of the Town of Southold, Section 46-18 for per-
mission to construct basement floor. below the minimum base flood
elevation requirements at 4.35 Cleaves Point Road, East Marion, NY;
Marion Manor . Subdivision Filed Map No. 2038 ,. Lot. No. 83; further
identified as County Tax Map Parcel- Item No. 1000-38-4-27.
A public hearing .was held and closed earlier this evening
concerning this appeal.
The Board .made the following findings and determination:
Appellant has appealed to this Board. seeking permission to
construct the lowest floor, -to wit, basement floor of the proposed
new dwelling approximately 3. 75 feet above mean sea level to be
utilized for a- passive solar heat storage system and not 'for. living
use or electrical components.
The lot in question has approximately 10,000 square feet in
area; and the plot plan submitted to the Board- indicates that the
area where the new dwelling is to be located has an elevation at
ground'-.level at the north end 8 . 5 feet above mean..sea level, at
the south .end 7. 1 feet above mean sea7.level, and at the east side
approximately 6. 7 feet above mean sea level. The Flood Insurance
Rate Map (FIRM) indicates that the property is located in a Zone V5
with a minimum elevation of 8 feet. The Board- finds that there are
homes in the neighborhood of the lot -in question of similar size,
and the dwellings lowest floors .-are constructed below the minimum
base flood level. The Board also. finds.:that .the lot in question
.meets the standards set forth in. Section 46-16A. of the Code since
it contains an area of less .than one-half acre and is contiguous
to and surrounded by lots,:-with:--.existing.-strtictiires.:constructed
below the base flood level.
In passing upon this application, the Board. has considered
all technical evaluations; all relevant .factors; . all standards
specified in the Code; and all of the applicable factors contained
in Section 46-15B, subdivisions (1) to (11Y , inclusive, of the Code.
The Board further finds and determines that: (1) There is a
good and sufficient cause .for the grant of this variance; (2) A
failure to grant the .variance would result in exceptional hardship
to the applicant; (3) The grant. of a variance will. not result in
increased flood heights, or additional threats to public safety,
or extraordinary public expense., or create nuisances, or cause
fraud, or victimize the public, or conflict with existing local
laws or rules or regulations.
On motion by Mr. .Goehringer, seconded by Mr. . Douglass., it was
RESOLVED, that Toba Laja Orro, applicant herein, be and hereby
is granted a variance from the provisions of the Flood Damage
Krevention Law of the Town of Southold to construct a one-family
Southold Town Board of Appeals -65- October 15 , 1981
(Appeal No. FL-7, Toba Laja Orro continued: )
private dwelling on premises located at the easterly corner of
Gillette Drive and Cleaves Point Road, East Marion, NY; further
designated on the County Tax Map as District 1000 , Section 38 ,
Block 4 , Lot 27, with the finished basement floor to be elevated
not less than 3.. 75 feet above mean .sea .level. as applied for and
SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS, to wit:
(1) That the basement be flood proofed so that below the
base flood level the structure is watertight with walls substan-
tially impermeable to the passage of water;
(2) That .the floodproofing requirements be certified by
a registered professional engineer or registered professional
architect as meeting the standards set forth in the preceding
paragraph hereof;
(3) That such certification be filed with the Building In-
spector and with the Board of Appeals of the Town of Southold
prior to the completion of the proposed structure and .as. early
as possible;
. (4) That prior to the commencement of construction, the
applicant apply for and obtain a development permit from the
Town Building Inspector, pursuant to the provisions of the Flood
Damage Prevention Law;
(5) That there shall . be no habitable, living area below the
minimum 8-foot base flood- level;
AND IT IS FURTHER RESOLVED, that pursuant to the provisions
of Section 46-16F of the Code, .the . applicant is .hereby given notice
that the structure for which this variance is granted will be per-
mitted to be built with the lowest floor elevation below the base
flood elevation and that .the cost of flood insurance will be com-
mensurate with the increased risk resulting from the reduced lowest
floor elevation;
AND IT IS FURTHER RESOLVED, that the Secretary to this Board
transmit copies of this determination to the .applicants and to
the Town Building Inspector.
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Messrs. Doyen, Douglass, Goehringer,
Sawicki and .Grigonis.
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Southold Town Board of Appeals -66- October 15, 1981 Regular
Meeting
. . . .RESERVED DECISION: Appeal No. 2889- Application-..of Alan A. _.Y..
Cardinale, Bridge Lane, Cutchogue, NY for a Variance to the Zoning
Ordinance, Article VII, Sections 100-70 and 100-71, Article VI, Section
100-62, to::.construct drive-in roof addition and alteration with an insuf=
ficient frontyard and further reduction of landscaped area, for bank
use. Location of Property: North side of Main Road, Mattituck, NY;
bounded west by Factory: . (Railroad) Avenue) ; south by Main Road; north
and east by Bethany Cemetery Association. County Tax Map Parcel No.
1000-142-1-26 .
A public hearing was held earlier this evening, at which time
decision was reserved until later.
By this appeal, applicant seeks to construct a "drive-in" roof
addition -ektendi'ng'.southerly-.:.fr.om :the front of:..the_.:build ng:.:approxi-
mately 38 feet towards Main Street (Route 25) . Applicant proposes
to reduce landscaping area by replacing with asphalt paving, which
is within the province of the Southold Town Planning Board in con-
sidering a revised site plan. A new bank branch is proposed at
this location and it is their feeling that a "drive-in" area for
banking transactioS.would be within the best interests of the town.
The Board agrees with the reasoning of applicant.
In considering this appeal , the Board determines that the
variance request is not substantial; that the circumstances
herein are unique and the. practical difficulties have been. shown;
that by allowing the variance no substantial detriment to adjoin-
ing properties would be created; that the difficulty cannot be
obviated by a method, feasible to appellant, other than a variance;
that no adverse effects will be produced on available governmental
facilities .of any increased population; that .the relief requested
will be in harmony with and promote the general purposes of the
zoning code; and that the interests of justice will be served by
allowing the variance.
On motion by Mr. Goehr.inger, seconded by Mr. Sawicki, it
was
RESOLVED., that Alan A. Cardinale be granted. a variance to the
zoning ordinance,. Article VII, Sections 100-70 and 100-71 to con-
struct drive-in roof addition as applied- for and SUBJECT TO THE
FOLLOWING .CONDITIONS:
(1) That approval from- the Southold .Town Planning Board
concerning the revised site plan be obtained;
(2) That .this matter be referred to the Suffolk - County
Planning Commission pursuant to Sections 1323, et seq. of the .
Suffolk County Charter.
Location of Property: North side of Main Road, Mattituck,
NY; County Tax Map Parcel. No. . 1000-142-1-26 .
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Doyen, Douglass, Goehringer,
Sawicki and Grigonis. This resolution was unanimously adopted.
Southold Town Board of Appeals "67' October 15, 1.981
ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION: Appeal No. 2908..
Application of Isabel DuBois for approval of- access .at.
Private Road, Fishers Island, NY.
On motion by Mr. Goehringer, ,seconded by Mr-. -Douglass,
it was
RESOLVED, to declare the following Negative Environmental
= Declaration concerning the matter of Isabel DuBois :
ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION:
Pursuant to Section 617.13 of the N.Y.S. Department of
Environmental Conservation Act, Article 8 of the Environmental
Conservation Law, and Section 44-4 of the .Southold Town Code,
notice is hereby given that the Southold Town Board .o.f 'Appeals
has determined that the subject project as proposed in this
appeal application is hereby classified as. a- Type II .Action;
not having a significant adverse effect upon .-the environment
for the following reason (s) : ,
An Environmental Assessment in the Short Form has been
submitted which indicates that no significant adverse effects
were likely to occur should this project be implemented as
planned.
This declaration should not be considered a determination
made for any other department or agency which may also be in-
volved, nor for any other project not covered by the subject
appeal application.
Location of Property: Private Road, Chocomount Lot 3 ,
at Fishets . Island., NY:
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Douglass., Goehringer,
Doyen, Grigonis and Sawicki.
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Southold Town Board of Appeals -68- October 15, .1981
ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION: Appeal No. 290.0.
Application of Robert W. Nelson for approval - of access
at .Private Road, Fishers Island. Fishers Island Map Block 16 ,
Lot 12.
On motion by Mr. Goehringer, seconded by Mr-. -Douglass,
it was
RESOLVED, to declare the following Negative Environmental
Declaration concerning the matter of Robert W. Nelson
ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION:
Pursuant to Section 617. 13 of the N.Y.S. Department of
Environmental Conservation Act, Article 8 of the Environmental
Conservation Law, and Section 44-4 of the .Southold Town Code,
notice is hereby given that the Southold Town Board of Appeals
has determined that the subject project as proposed in this
appeal application is hereby classified as a Type II .Action;
not having a significant adverse effect upon the environment
for the following reason (s) : ,
An Environmental Assessment in the Short Form has been
submitted which indicates that no significant adverse effects
were likely to occur should this project be implemented as
planned.
This declaration should not be considered a determination
made for any other department or agency which may also be in-
volved, nor for any other project not covered 'by the subject
appeal application.
Location of Property: Private Road, Fishers Island.
Fishers Island Map Block 16 , Lot '12.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Douglass, Goehringer,
Doyen, Grigonis and Sawicki.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -69- October 15, 1981
ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION: Appeal No. 2902'.
Application of Marjorie S. Dunaway. (1) approval' of.
access (2) to construct pool in sideyard area (3) to con-
struct ten-foot high tennis court fence., . Private Road,. F:.I.
On motion by Mr. Goehringer, seconded by Mr. -Douglass,
it was
RESOLVED, to declare the following Negative Environmental
Declaration concerning the matter of Marjorie S. Dunaway:
ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION:
Pursuant to Section 617. 13 of the N.Y.S. Department of
Environmental Conservation Act, Article 8 of the Environmental
Conservation Law, and Section 44-4 of the .Southold Town Code,
notice is hereby given that the Southold Town Board of Appeals
has determined that the subject project as proposed in this
appeal application is hereby classified as a_ Type II .Action,
not having a significant adverse effect upon .the environment
for the following reason (s) : ,
An Environmental Assessment in the Short Form has been
submitted which indicates that no significant adverse effects
were likely to occur should this project be implemented as
planned.
This declaration should not be considered a determination
made for any other department or agency which may also be in-
volved, nor for any other project not covered by the subject
appeal application.
Location of Property: Private Road, Fishers .Island, NY.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Douglass, Goehringer,
Doyen, Grigonis and Sawicki.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -70- October 15, 1981
ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION: Appeal No.' 2909.•
Application of Robert A. and Bettyann Herreros. To.
construct addition to dwelling with an instfficient- frontyard
setback at 3000 Delmar Drive, Laurel.
On motion by Mr. Goehringer, seconded by Mr. .Douglass,
it was
. RESOLVED, to declare the following Negative Environmental
Declaration concerning the matter of Robert A. and Bettyann
Herreros:
ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION:
Pursuant to Section 617. 13 of the N.Y.S. Department of
Environmental Conservation Act, Article 8 of the Environmental
Conservation Law, and Section 44-4 of the Southold Town Code,
notice is hereby given that the Southold Town Board of Appeals
has determined that the subject project as proposed in this
appeal application is hereby classified -as a- Type II .Action;
not having a significant adverse effect upon the environment
for the following reason (s) : ,
An Environmental Assessment in the Short Form has been
submitted which indicates that no significant adverse effects
were likely to occur should this project be implemented as
planned.
The project in question is not located within 300 feet
of tidal wetlands area.
This declaration should not be considered a determination
made for any other department or agency which may also be in-
volved, nor for any other project not covered by the subject
appeal application.
. Location of Property: 3000 Delmar Drive, Laurel, NY:
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Douglass, Goehringer,
Doyen, Grigonis and Sawicki.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -71- October 1"5, .1981
ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION: Appeal No. 2901.
Application of William A. Rusch: for approval- of the
construction of raised""deck on pool with insufficient . side_
yard.
On motion by Mr. Goehringer,. seconded by- Mr. -Douglass,
it was
RESOLVED, to declare the following Negative Environmental
Declaration concerning the matter of William A. . Rusch:
ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION:
Pursuant to Section 617. 13 of the-N.Y.S. Department of
Environmental Conservation Act, Article 8 of the Environmental
Conservation Law, and Section 44-4 of the-Southold Town Code, .
notice is hereby given that the Southold Town Board 'of Appeals
has determined that the subject "project as proposed in this
appeal application is hereby classified -as. a Type II .Action,
not having a significant adverse effect upon the environment
for the following reason (s) : ,
An Environmental Assessment in the Short Form has been
submitted which indicates that no significant adverse effects
were likely to occur should this project be implemented as
planned.
The project in question is not located within. 300 feet.
of tidal wetlands area.
This declaration should not be considered a" determination
made for any other department or agency which may also be in-
volved, nor for any other project not covered by the subject
appeal application.
Location of Property: 50550 `Main Road, . Southold , NY.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Douglass, Goehringer,
Doyen, Grigonis and Sawicki.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -72- October 15, .1.981
ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION: Appeal No. 2899..
Application of Wilbur A. Baldwin to construct garage. in
frontyard area.
On motion by Mr. Goehringer, seconded by- Mr.. -Douglass,
it was
RESOLVED, to declare the following Negative Environmental
Declaration concerning the matter of Wilbur A. Baldwin:
ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION:
Pursuant to Section 617. 13 of the-N.Y.S. Department of
Environmental Conservation Act, Article 8 of the Environmental
Conservation Law, and Section 44-4 of the Southold Town Code,
notice is hereby given that the Southold Town Board of Appeals
has determined that the subject project as proposed in this
appeal application is hereby classified as a Type II .Action,
not having a significant adverse effect upon -the environment
for the following reason (s) : ,
An Environmental Assessment in the Short Form has been
submitted which indicates that no significant adverse effects
were likely to occur should this project be implemented as
planned.
This declaration should not be considered a determination
made. for any other department or agency which may also be in-
volved, nor for any other project not covered by the subject
appeal application.
. Location of Property: 1725 Nassau Point Road, Cutchogue,
NY. '
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Douglass,. Goehringer,
Doyen, Grigonis and Sawicki.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -73- October 15, 1.981
ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION: Appeal No.. 2903 .
Application of Richard and Joan -Zeisler for approval of
the construction of walkways around the perimeter of applicaiit' s-
house with reduced front and side yard setbacks.-
On motion by Mr. Goehringer, seconded by Mr. -Douglass,
it was
RESOLVED, to declare the following Negative Environmental
Declaration concerning the matter of
ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION:
Pursuant to Section 617. 13 of the N.Y.S. Department of
Environmental Conservation Act, Article 8 of the Environmental
Conservation Law, and Section 44-4 of the .Southold Town Code,
notice is hereby given that the Southold Town Board 'of Appeals
has determined that the subject project as proposed in this
appeal application is hereby classified -as a Type II .Action,
not having a significant adverse effect upon the environment
for the following reason (s) : ,
An Environmental Assessment in the Short Form has been
submitted which indicates that no significant adverse effects
were likely to occur should this project be implemented as
planned.
This declaration should not be considered a determination
made for any other department or agency which may also be in-
volved, nor for any other project not covered by the subject
appeal application.
Location of Property: 700 Jackson Landing, Mattituck,. NY.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Douglass, Goehringer,
Doyen, Grigonis and Sawicki.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -74- Octbber 15, 1981
ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION: Appeal No. 2904 ..
Application of Thomas J. DeBorger to. construct new
dwelling with insufficient front and side yard setbacks and
exceeding maximum permitted 20% lot .coverage.
On motion by Mr. Goehringer, seconded by Mr. -Douglass,
it was
RESOLVED, to declare the following Negative Environmental
Declaration concerning the matter of
ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION:
Pursuant to Section 617. 13 of the-N.Y.S. Department of
Environmental Conservation Act, Article 8 of the Environmental
Conservation Law, and Section 44-4 of the .Southold Town Code,
notice is hereby given that the Southold Town Board o.f Appeals
has determined that the subject project as proposed in this
appeal application is hereby classified -as a ape II -Action,
not having a significant adverse effect upon the environment
for the following reason (s) : ,
An Environmental Assessment in the Short Form has been
submitted which indicates that no significant adverse effects
were likely to occur should this project be implemented as
planned.
Applicant has secured approval from the. N.Y.S. Department
of Environmental Conservation-.
This declaration should not be considered a determination
made for any other department or agency which may also be in-
volved, nor for any other project not covered by the subject
appeal application.
. Location 'of Property: North Road, Southold, NY..
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Douglass, Goehringer,
Doyen, Grigonis and Sawicki.
Southold Town Board of Appeals 775- October 15, 1981
ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION: Appeal No. 2905.
Application of William and. Margaret Killian.-
structure in 'an area. other than the required rear yard.
On motion by Mr. Goehringer, seconded by Mr. -Douglass,
it was
RESOLVED, to declare the following Negative Environmental.
Declaration concerning the matter of William and Margaret Killian:
ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION:
Pursuant to Section 617.13 of the-N.Y.S. Department of
Environmental Conservation Act; Article 8 of the Environmental
Conservation Law, and Section 44-4 of the .Southold Town Code,
notice is hereby given that the. Southold Town Board of Appeals
has determined that the- subject project as proposed in this
appeal application is hereby classified as a Type II .Action,
not having a significant adverse effect upon .-the environment
for the following reason(s) :
An Environmental Assessment in the Short Form has been
submitted which indicates that no significant adverse effects
were likely to occur should this project be implemented as
planned.
The project. in question is not located within 30.0 feet
of tidal wetlands area.
This declaration should not be considered a determination
made for any other department or agency which may also be in-
volved, nor for any other project not covered by the subject
appeal application.
Location of Property: 5100 Private Road (off Mill Road) ,
Mattituck, NY.
Vote of the Board: Ayes; Messrs. Douglass, Goeh ringer,
Doyen, Grigonis and Sawicki.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -76 October 15, .T981
ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION: Appeal No. 2906'.
Application of Allan C. Dickerson to construct addition
to existing building with insufficient sideyard setback in a
B-1 General Business District.
On motion by Mr. Goehringer, seconded by Mr. -Douglass,
it was
RESOLVED, to declare the following Negative Environmental
Declaration concerning the matter of Allan C. Dickerson:
ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION:
Pursuant to Section 617. 13 of the N.Y.S. Department of
Environmental Conservation Act, Article 8 of the Environmental
Conservation Law, and Section 44-4 of the .Southold Town Code,
notice is hereby given that the Southold Town Board of Appeals
has determined that the subject project as proposed in this
appeal' application is hereby classified as. a_ Type II`.Action,
not having a significant adverse effect upon the environment
for the following reason (s) : ,
An Environmental Assessment in the Short Form has been
submitted which indicates that no significant adverse effects
were likely to occur should this project be implemented as
planned.
The project in question is not located within.. 300 feet.
of tidal wetlands area.
This declaration should not be considered a determination
made, for any other department or agency which may also be in-
volved, nor for any other project not covered by the subject
appeal application.
Location of Property: Corner of Main Road and Wickham
Avenue, Mattituck, NY. >
Vote of: the. Board: Ayes: Messrs. Douglass , Goehringer,
Doyen, Grigonis and Sawicki.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -.77- October 15, .1981
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ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION: Appeal No. 2907.1
Application of Dorothy C. Fleet for approval. of insuffi=
cient width of one parcel in .a proposed two-lot division at
Pequash Acres Subdivision, Lots 3 and 4 ,. Cutchogue.
On motion by Mr. Goehringer, seconded by Mr-. Douglass,
it was
RESOLVED, to declare the following Negative Environmental
Declaration concerning the matter of Dorothy C. Fleet:
ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION:
Pursuant to Section 617. 13 of the-N.Y.S. Department of
Environmental Conservation Act, Article 8 of the Environmental
Conservation Law, and Section 44-4 of the Southold Town Code,
notice is hereby given that the Southold Town Board of Appeals
has determined that the subject project as proposed in this
appeal application is hereby classified as. a Type II .Action,
not having a significant adverse effect upon -the environment
for the following reason (s) :
An Environmental Assessment in the Short Form has been
submitted which indicates that no significant adverse effects
were likely to occur should this project be implemented as
planned.
This declaration should not be considered a determination
made for any other department or agency which may also be in-
volved, nor for any other project not covered by the subject
appeal application.
Location of Property: Lots 3 and 4, Pequash Acres Subdivi-
sion, Cutchogue.
Vote of the Board : Ayes: Messrs. Douglass , Goehringer,
Doyen, Grigonis and Sawicki.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -78 October 15, .1981
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ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION: Appeal No. 2910 .
Application of Demos Menakis. to construct new dwelling_
with an insufficient setback from Circle Drive.
On motion by Mr. Goehringer, seconded by Mr-. Douglass,
it was
RESOLVED, to declare the following Negative Environmental
Declaration concerning the matter of Demos Menakis :
ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION:
Pursuant to Section 617. 13 of the N.Y. S. Department of
Environmental Conservation Act, Article 8 of the Environmental
Conservation Law, and Section 44-4 of the .Southold Town Code,
notice is hereby given that the Southold Town Board of Appeals
has determined that the subject project as proposed .in this
appeal application is hereby classified -as. a_ Type II .Action,
not having a significant adverse effect upon the environment
for the following reason (s) :
An Environmental Assessment in the Short Form has been
submitted which indicates that no significant adverse effects
were likely to occur should this project be implemented as
planned.
This declaration should not be considered a determination
made. for any other department or agency which may also be in-
volved, nor for any other project not covered by the subject
appeal application.
. Location of Property: 980 Aquaview Avenue, East Marion.
Vote of the Board : Ayes: Messrs. Douglass, Goehringer,
Doyen, Grigonis and Sawicki.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -79- October 15, .1981
ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION: Appeal No. 2918 ..
Application of William and Helen Robison. (1) Approval '
of insufficient area and width of two proposed .parcels; and
(2) to construct new dwelling with an insufficient frontyard
setback. Northwest corner of Wavecrest Lane. and Saltair.e
Way, Mattituck.
On motion by Mr. Goehringer, seconded by Mr. Douglass,-
it was
RESOLVED, to declare the following Negative Environmental
Declaration concerning the matter of William -and Helen Robison:
ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION:
Pursuant to Section 617. 13 of the N.Y.S. Department of
Environmental Conservation Act, Article 8 of the Environmental
Conservation Law, and Section 44-4 of the Southold Town Code,
notice is hereby given that the Southold Town Board of Appeals
has determined that the subject project as proposed in this
appeal application is hereby classified as a Type II .Action,
not having a significant adverse effect upon the environment
for the following reason (s) : ,
An Environmental Assessment in the Short Form has been
submitted which indicates that no significant adverse effects
were likely to occur should this project be implemented as
planned.
This declaration should not be considered a determination
made for any other department or agency which may also be in-
volved, nor for any other project not covered by the subject
appeal application.
Location of Propert . Northwest corner of Wavecrest Lane
and Saltaire Way, Mattituck, NY. ,
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Douglass , Goehringer,
Doyen, Grigonis and Sawicki.
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Southold Town Board of Appeals -80 October 151, 1981:
ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION: Appeal 'No. 2912 .
Application of Frank Curran to construct accessory struc-
ture in the sideyard area at 780 Fishermen' s Beach- Road, Cut-.
chogue , NY.
On motion by Mr. Goehringer, seconded by Mr. Douglass,
it was
RESOLVED, to declare the following Negative Environmental
Declaration concerning the matter of Frank Curran:::
ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION:
Pursuant to Section 617. 13 of the N.Y.S. Department of
Environmental Conservation Act, Article 8 of the Environmental
Conservation Law, .and Section 44-4 of the Southold Town Code,
notice is hereby given that the Southold Town Board o.f Appeals
has determined that the subject project as proposed in this
appeal application is hereby classified as. a- Type II .Action;
not having a significant adverse effect upon -the environment
for the following reasons)
An Environmental Assessment in the Short Form has been
submitted which indicates that no significant adverse effects
were likely to occur should this project be implemented as
planned.
This declaration should not be considered a determination
made for any other department or agency which may also be in-
volved, nor for any other project not covered by the subject
appeal application.
Location of Property: 780 Fishermen' s Beach Road, Cutchogue,
NY.
Vote of the Board : Ayes: Messrs. Douglass, Goehringer,
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ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION: Appeal No. 2913 .
Application of Frances N. Frisbie-.to construct tennis
court and fence exceeding the maximum four-foot height
requirement in the frontyard area:
On motion by Mr. Goehringer, seconded by Mr. - Douglass,
it was
RESOLVED, to declare the following Negative Environmental
Declaration concerning the matter of Frances N. Fr.isbie:
ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION:
Pursuant to Section 617. 13 of the N.Y.S. Department of
Environmental Conservation Act, Article 8 of the Environmental
Conservation Law, and Section 44-4 of the .Southold Town_ Code,
notice is hereby given that the Southold Town Board 'o.f Appeals
has determined that the subject project as proposed in this
appeal application is hereby classified as a Type II .Action;
not having a significant adverse effect upon .:the environment
for the following reason (s) : ,
An Environmental Assessment in the Short Form has been
submitted which indicates that no significant adverse effects
were likely to occur should this project be implemented as
planned.
This declaration should not be considered a determination
made for any other department or agency which may also be in-
volved, nor for any other project not covered by the subject
appeal application.
Location of Property: 175 Clearwater Lane, Cutchogue, NY.
Vote of the Board : Ayes: Messrs. Douglass, Goehringer,
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On motion by Mr. Goehringer, seconded by Mr. Douglass, it
was
RESOLVED, that the following matters be scheduled for public
hearings to be held at the next Regular Meeting of this board,
to wit, November 5 , 1981 and that same be advertised pursuant
to law:
7 :15 p.m. Isabel DuBois. 280-a. Fishers Island.
7 : 20 p.m. Robert W. Nelson. 280-a. Fishers Island.
7 : 25 p.m. Marjorie S. Dunaway. 280-a, pool in sideyard area
and fence ten-foot high for tennis court. F. I.
7 : 30 p.m. Robert A. and Bettyann Herreros. To construct
addition to dwelling with an insufficient frontyard
setback. 3000 Delmar Drive, Laurel.
7 : 35 p.m. William A. Rusch. Approval of the construction of
raised deck on pool with insufficient sideyard.
50550 Main Road, Southold.
7 : 45 p.m. Wilbur A. Baldwin. Garage in frontyard area. 1725
Nassau Point Road, Cutchogue.
7 : 55 p.m. Richard and Joan Zeisler. Approval of construction
of walkways around the perimeter of applicants'
house with reduced front and side yard setbacks.
700 Jackson Landing, Mattituck.
8 :05 p.m. Thomas J. DeBorger. New dwelling with insufficient
front and side yard setbacks and exceeding the
maximum permitted 200 lot coverage. North Road,
Southold.
8 : 20 p.m. William and Margaret Killian. Accessory structure
in an area other than the required rearyard. 5100
Private Road (off Mill Road) , Mattituck.
8 :30 p.m. Allan C. Dickerson. Construct addition to existing
building with insufficient sideyard setback in B-1
Zone. Main Road & Wickham Avenue, Mattituck.
8 : 40 p.m. Dorothy C. Fleet. Approval of insufficient width
of one parcel in a proposed two-lot division at
Pequash Acres, Lots 3 and 4 , Cutchogue.
8 : 45 p.m. Demos Menakis . New dwelling with insufficient
frontyard setback. 980 Aquaview Avenue, East Marion.
8 : 50 p.m. William. and. Helen Robison. (1) approval of insuffi-
cient area and width of two proposed parcels, (2)
construct new dwelling with an insufficient frontyard
setback. Wavecrest Lane and Saltaire Way, Mattituck.
9 : 00 p.m. Ronald Roberts. Flood Law Variance to construct new
dwelling in V-4 Flood Zone with base floor below the
11-foot minimum elevation above mean sea level.
Cedar Point Drive East, Southold.
9 : 10 p.m. Frank Curran. Accessory structure in sideyard area.
780 Fishermen ' s Beach Road, Cutchogue.
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(Set-Ups for November 5 , 1981 continued: )
9: 15 p.m. Frank Curran. Flood Law Variance to construct
improvements exceeding 50% of the market value
of existing structure, in a Flood Zone A, with
base floor below the 8-foot minimum elevation
above MSL. 780 Fishermen' s Beach Road, Cutchogue.
9: 30 p.m. Frances N. Frisbie. To construct tennis court
and fence exceeding the maximum four-foot height
requirement .in the frontyard area. 175 Clearwater
Lane, Cutchogue.
Vote of the Board.: Ayes : Grigonis., Doyen, Douglass, Goeh-
ringer and Sawicki.
Being there was no .other business to come before the board
properly at this time, motion was made by Mr. Grigonis, seconded
by Mr. Sawicki and duly carried, to adjourn. The meeting was
adjourned at 12:45 a.m. , October 16 , 1981.
Respectfully submitted,
APPROVED
Linda -F. Kowalski, Secretary
Southold Town Board of Appeals
Chairman Board of Appeals
RECEIVED AND FILED BY
THE SOUTHOLD TOW14 CLERK
DATE J a3#_. HOUR /1`/Z)A
Town Clerk, Town So old