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'SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD
JUNE 7, 1983
WORK SESSION
9: 00 A.M. - The Board audited the outstanding vouchers.
9: 40 A.M: - Began reviewing the agenda.
10: 50 A.M. - The Town Board; Town Clerk and Superintendent of ,
Highways participated in the Sports Award Program for the 'Sehior'
Citizen groups at the Senior/Youth Center, Peconic.
EXECUTIVE SESSION T
1:50 P.M. -. Lieutenant Stanley Droskoski met with .the Town Board
to discuss personnel.
2:15 ,P.M. - Community Development 'Director James McMahon and
Mr. Louis Demarest met. with the Town Board to discuss the 'possible
purchase of property in Orient..
2: 35 P.M. - Justice Edwards .discussed with the Board the possible
purchase of property at Fishers Island by .the Fishers Island Ferry
District.
WORK SESSION
2:50 P.M. - Community Development Director James McMahon brought
the Town Board up to . date . on . the 'status of Community Development
projects for Years 7, 8, and 9. He. also asked .the Board to set
the interest rate for a $100,000 revolving loan to Cross Sound
Ferry for the reconstruction of the. Orient Point Ferry Terminal,
funds to come from the Community Developmeftt- Revolving Loan Program
through the County Consortium and HUD. The Board set the rate
at, 67. for seven years.
3:15 P.M. -Recess for hearing on the appeal of Thomas Occhiogrosso
on a violation of his Wetland Permit.
3:25 P.M. - Tow ri Engineer Lawrence Tuthill met with the Board to
explain the progress he has made on appeals to the . Federal Emergency
Management Agency on flood elevations in Southold Town.
3: 30 P.M. - Recess for a public hearing on a proposed 'Local Law to
amend the Flood Damage Prevention Law of the Town of Southold in
relation to the reference to the Flood Insurance Rate Map and the
definition of terms. "
4:05 P.M. - Executive Administrator Victor Lessard met with the Board
to request the Town Board' s approval of all forms and permits used
by the Building Department . This is necessary when they are used as
evidence in court cases. A ,resolution was placed on the agenda.
Mr. Lessard also submitted suggested revisions of certain forms to---
Town Attorney Tasker for review.
4:15 P.M. '- Board of Appeals Chairman Gerard Goehringer and members
Charles Grigonis, Joseph Sawicki, and Robert Douglass . appeared before
the Board to discuss their designation as a Review Board for appeals
of the State Building Construction Code. Mr. Goehringer stated he
does, not feel the members of the Board of Appeals are qualified to
do such a job; architects and builders should be on the board. He
feels there will be at least three cases this year and they cannot
handle them, there is too much to learn about the State Building
Construction Code.--Town Attorney Tasker explained that these are
just good businesslike decisions, not requiring knowledge of how
to construct a building, sprinkler system, elevator, etc.--Member
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Douglass said he dick not totally agree with the fears of the Board,
he does not feel that the duties would be that technical and would.
have no problem handling them. Mr. Grigonis said he would rely on
Mr. Douglass' expertise in this area. Mr. Sawicki agreed to perform
his duties as requested.
4:45 P.M. -. The Board resumed 'reviewirig the agenda and off agenda
items.--Town Clerk Terry asked . the Board to define the cost per
page for copied material , single sided and duplexed. - It was the
unanimous decision of the Town Board that the cost is $ .25 per page
(one side) . If the material is duplexed, the cost would be $ .25
per side or a total of $ . 50.
6: 30 P.M. - Work Session adjourned.
REGULAR MEETING
7: 30 P.M.
A Regular Meeting of the Southold Town Board was held on
Tuesday, June 7, 1983 at the Southold Town Hall, Main Road,
Southold, New York. Supervisor Pell opened the meeting at
7: 30 P.M. with the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.
Present: Supervisor William R. Pell, III
Councilman John J. -Nickles
Councilman Lawrence Murdock, Jr. -_
Councilman Francis J. Murphy
Councilman Joseph L. Townsend, Jr.
Justice .Raymond W. Edwards
Town Clerk Judith T. Terry
Town Attorney Robert W. Tasker
Moved by Councilman Murphy, ' seconded by Councilman Murdock, it was
RESOLVED that the following audited bills be and hereby are ordered
paid: General Fund Whole Town bills in the amount of $122,708.88;
General Fund Part Town bills in 'the amount of $298,013. 32; Highway
Department bills in the amount of $74, 311. 11; Fishers Island Ferry
District bills in the amount of $21,239.62; Federal Revenue Sharing
Fund bills in the amount of $25. 80.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman
Townsend, Councilman 'Murphy, Councilman Murdoch, Councilman
Nickles., Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. -
Moved by Councilman Nickles, seconded -by Councilman� Murphy, it was
RESOLVED that the minutes of .the 'May 24,, 1983 meeting .of the Southold
Town Board be and hereby .are 'approved. .
Vote of . the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman
Townsend, Councilman Murphy,. Councilman Murdock; Councilman
Nickles, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
Moved by Councilman Murdock, seconded by Councilman' Nickles, it was
RESOLVED that the next Regular Meeting of the Southold Town Board
will be held Tuesday, June -212 '1983 at 3:00 'P.M. at the Southold
Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman.
Townsend, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman
Nickles, Supervisor,Pell.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
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I . REPORTS.
SUPERVISOR PELL: The following reports are placed on file with
the Town Clerk, anybody wishing to review them can do so at the
Town Clerk' s Office or at my office.
1. Justice Edwards' monthly report - April 1983.
2. Town Trustees' monthly report - May 1983.
3. Supervisor' s monthly report - May 1983.
4. ' Town Clerk' s monthly report - May 1983.
5. Building Inspector' s monthly report - May 1983.
6. Police Department ' s monthly report - Detective Division
and ,Juvenile Aid Bureau May 1893..
7. Fishers Island Ferry District' s monthly report - May 1983.
'8.- Highway Department ' s monthly report - May 1983.
SUPERVISOR PELL: I would like to just point out, under the Building__ -
Inspector' s monthly report, the total estimated value of new build-
ing permits and alterations for one month was $1,500,000, was the
new- construction given out for the month of May. ,
9. . Councilmen' s reports. Justice Edwards--. .
JUSTICE EDWARDS: Thank you. As I told the Town Board earlier
today, we are in the middle of .A mooring registration program on
Fishers Island. Out of 60 .applications that .we sent out .to boats
moored in West Harbor we got a return of approximately 35 'for the
total income of over $1200. 00 in mooring permits, which is going
to, pay for our second Bay Constable in West Harbor. Thank you, Bill.
SUPERVISOR PELL: Thank you. Councilman Murphy--
COUNCILMAN MURPHY: I would just like to report-.-.I' would like Larry .
to give the full report for the Disposal Committee—but Ilm_ really
very happy to see that we seem to be moving along in a much faster
.pace right now as far as the 'laiidfill. is concerned. ' We are under a
lot of pressure from the D.E.C. to move in this direction and true--
it ' s going to cost the Town some money, but- it ' s' money .that we probably
should have spent many years ago and it ' s somethng we have to do, not
only because it ' s mandated by the D.E.C. , because morally it 's. right .
I 'd like to also report that we' re still dealing with 'CAblevision and
there will be some kind of a survey--we gave our recommendations that
we asked them to mail out and the returns coming back to the Super-
visor. They came back again with a second change. It really isn't.
what we would like, but Cablevision is the one that 's. paying for this
and I guess they're going to have their way. All I could suggest is
in. the press and in reporting on the Town Board that if anybody does
have a complaint on Cablevision, please call Cablevision and if your
service is not satisfactory, the replies from Cablevision, please let
us- know. in Town Hall here. Thank you, Bill.
SUPERVISOR PELL: Thank you. Councilman Nickles--
COUNCILMAN NICKLES: The BeAdh Committee would like to report that
the official opening of 'the Town Beaches this year will be as
follows: Starting on June 26th two beaches, the Town Beach, which
is on Long Island Sound at Arshamomaque, and the Norman E. Klipp
Park at Gull Pond. All other beaches will open on June 30th.
I 'd also like to report that on June 1st , 1983 Councilman Townsend,
Murdock and I attended the first meeting of the Southold Town
Farmland Preservation Committee and the five gentlemen that were
appointed to the Board selected a Chairman, Mr. Andre (Bud) Cybulski
and they seem to be off to a good start and they're ready and raring
to go and we' ll be hearing more from them.
SUPERVISOR PELL: Thank you. Councilman Murdock--
COUNCILMAN MURDOCK: A couple of days ago we had a meeting of the
Code Enforcement Committee. The results of that meeting are the
modifications to the Bulk and Parking Schedule that you will hear
us set in motion today to go before the Planning Board, the County
Planning Board and then a public hearing to alter that law and as
Frank said we have had a meeting on our Landfill Committee which- is-
culmination of quite a few meetings and a lot of time spent . Council-
man Townsend, Ray Dean, Councilman Murphy, and myself went to a land-
fill seminar in Nassau County last week. . It - gave us a lot of back-
ground general information again and just reinforced our thinking that
we have to get started in the sense of direction that we were head
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in is the sense of direction that the Town should go. Our committee
recommended to the Town that we start putting a man, at the gate to,
check the honey wagons, to check the stickers and bumper stickers on
cars to make sure that everybody who uses the landfill is a resident
of the Town. Also next week we will have a meeting of the Commissioners
of the Waste Water Management District which all the members of the
Town Board happen to be Commissioners, that day will put on a different
hat. We plan to recommend to the Commissioners that we start a dump-
ing fee or a tipping fee, whichever you will, with ,the honey wagons
to help start to pay for some of the work that we are doing up there.
We recommend to the Town Board, and that will be done by resolution
today, that we establish 14 five hour shifts at„ thee gate of the land-
fill. We are going to call those gentlemen Sanitation Attendants.
The Town Board will empower the hiring of eight so that we. will have
a pool to draw from. We will also recommend today the acceptance of
the bid from the Morbark Corporation for a chipper that we will use
in chipping up all the trees and branches that come into the landfill.
That , with the grinding- of the leaves, we will go into a composting
program. That compost will be used for a capping material to cap the
landfill. When the D.E.C. says we must we hope to be prepared- and
started down that road. We will save a considerable amount of space
in the landfill by volume reduction, by grinding the leaves and.
chipping the wood. We hope to accomplish two things in that. program.
We have--also the Town Board tonight will authorize the hiring or
creating the positions for two Equipment Operators to operate. those
pieces of equipment that we have already started on and. we have not
as yet , but we did recommend today to the Town Board, to authorize
a total of $550,000. 00 in bonding costs to cover items that we believe
we will need. Roughly $125,000.00 for a building, we would like to
enclose the area that we deposit garbage so that we' can stop. every-
thing from blowing around, it makes it much neater and handier to
control. We hope to buy two compactor trailers, that will be about
$90,000.00. A payloader which, would be about $160,000.00. Another
bulldozer which would .be about $140,000.00. The bulldozer will
replace one that is. -either a. '62 or a '63, vintage that is just
wheezing and puffing. The payloader, we intend to keep the 'payloader
that we presently have and hope to thereby have a back-up payloader:
Those things we've recommended to the Town. The numbers, when you
add them ,all up become a little bit frightening, maybe. They 're all
a bare-bones program and feel the correct way to approach the Town
is to, tell the Town exactly what the totals are that we're working
with and let everybody get used to those ideas and accept the fact
that these are the things that we must do. Also today we got ..a
phone call from the D.E.C. They were up to the landfill yesterday
and they made an inspection for methane because of the problem that
the Town of Babylon had where methane seeped into a' building at .the
landfill and they had the explosion last week, the D.E.C. is now
going over every landfill. They told us that they felt our methane
level was high in one area of the landfill. They wanted a further
report from us and I believe we--today during the working session
we empowered Holzmacher,- McLendon and Murrell to do those testings __._
for us because we must make a report to the D.E.C. about the methane
I think within a week and by the first of July we must make a report
to the D.E.C. about the water quantities and the plume quantities
underground at the landfill area and the County of Suffolk has
graciously consented to do our test wells and make those tests for
us and give us the report "by the first of July. I think that ' s all
on the landfill , Bill.
SUPERVISOR PELL: What else do you have?
COUNCILMAN MURDOCK: I think -that ' s all for now, thank you.
SUPERVISOR PELL: Councilman Townsend-- -
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Bill, there' s not really much left for me' to
do but to summarize since I 'm a member of the committees that have
been--that John and Larry have just reported onv There are a couple
of things that I 'd like to say regarding those committees. One .of
them is while you mentioned the Building Inspector's report where we
had over a million dollars in new housing, million and a quarter
actually, in actual new building of houses, which means we will be
getting assessed valuations, if we use our current equalization
rate, of a little over $125,000.00 which sounds like a lot of, money,
but one of the things I ' d like to point out . is that 'Southold Town
is shortly going to be .paying for a lot of very ambitious programs
that we really have to undertake. Larry just pointed out that just
for the machinery and housing of the machinery at the landfill it ' s
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going to be around $550,000.,00 That, doesn ' t include a lot of the
labor costs involved and there Fare �'�' o b going "te costs involving capping
and lining that haven ' t been included in that . John mentioned the
greenbelt committee--Farmland Preservation Committee that was formed.
I mentioned earlier today to the Board that if we undertake to. buy
the development rights just on 300 acres, we 're going to be investing
close to a million dollars, which is a large bond resolution for this
Town to undertake. Consequently they 're going to investigate some
other options. I think it ' s something that ' s very worthwhile, some-
thing we should do, but that ' s what we're headed for, some very heavy
expenditures and these are the cost of increased population that we ' re
undergoing. Larry mentioned the Code Committee. That ' s--what number
is that on the agenda today--22. There are some significant changes
that have been made to our zoning ordinance regarding size of lots
for all undivided property so far, and also on affecting those .
applications that have been in the hopper for a while. Some are
going to make it and some are not . So, its been an interesting
couple of weeks.
SUPERVISOR PELL: Thank you, Joseph. Anything else?
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: No.
SUPERVISOR PELL: The Supervisor would like to report on a couple
of things. One, the Captain Kidd Water District up there, Mr. Van
Cook from the P.S.C. called today, like he said he would, to report
that well two is in operation and putting out approximately 150
gallons per minutes. , The water quality is very good. Well number
one is not producing as it should. They are going to close it down
and go to. work on that one starting next week. They have enough -
money in Captain Kidd' s surcharge that was put on the people up
there to pay for it and they hope the work will be done within a
week. By that time they feel well number one and well number two
will get the people back through the summer. They will make a
detailed report to the Town Board when all the work is done . and
make their predictions on how it will operate this summertime.
The next report I would like to make is a telephone call we had
yesterday from Mr. Carlson, Assistant Commissioner of D.O.T. for
the State of New York. Again it ' s a pleasure to deal. with these
people. When they say they will call you back and give you a report
they do. His report is that the signs for the low bridge clearance
in Laurel area-Mattituck, will be put up within the next two weeks
as planned, as they said. The flashing warning lights are , going
to be delayed maybe one week or perhaps maximum if two. They have'
to get permission from LILCO to use the LILCO poles to put the lights
on immediately. They thought they could do it ,but I guess there' s
some paper work that has .to take place between "the D.O.T. and LILCO.
They are. only going to be temporary signs on LILCO ' s poles. The'
State plans to put up their permanent State signs with flashing lights
and all on the same pole. That will be done eventually, but in order
to get it done right away they will be put up on LILCO poles. The
'heduce speed-slippery when wet" report , as far as I know has not been
completed yet. I understand that through other sources perhaps it
has and orders are being cut already to reduce the speed and remark
it, but officially I have not been notified yet of that . It is in the
works. We .have two people here in the back of the room. I am going
to ask you at this time, any comment you want to make. on this?
MR. FRANK CARLIN, Laurel: As of last Friday morning D.O.T. was not
going to reduce the speed limit signs and they were not going to
put "slippery when wet" signs up there. However, our friend, Mr.
Sawicki , got a call about this and he got ahold of Albany and he
spoke to Carlson and new orders are being cut to reduce the sign
to- 45 miles and hour - the speed limit , excuse me, and also the
"slippery when wet" signs, and they wasn 't going to do this in the
beginning, so they should be done, I guess, in a couple more weeks.
So that ' s about all. We're hoping the thing gets done, but it 's
two weeks now and nothings been done yet, but we 're hoping it will
be done. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR PELL: Mrs. Simich.
MRS. CATHERINE SIMICH, Mattituck: I just wanted to read the
edition from Suffolk Life May 25th: "Charles Carlson, Assistant
Commissioner of Operations for the D.O.T. said the . recent rash
of accidents near trestles evidenced that something has to be
done. We have told our people at Hauppauge to put this at the
top of their priority list. He said they should be out there
working in a couple of days. " May 25th, it ' s past a few days.
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MR. CARLIN: Time has run out.
SUPERVISOR PELL: Right. As I said before, Mr. Carlson did call
yesterday and said, as he stated, within thirty days and---
MR. CARLIN: My partner and I , we worked hard on this petition.` ,
and there' s 2860 people signed this Petition and we're responsible---
to them to see that this petition gets carried out 'and we intend to
do so.
SUPERVISOR PELL: This Board stands firm behind you', working towards
this goal, you know that.
MR. CARLIN: It was started with two weeks and like she read,' within
days, and two to three weeks nothing and seems like seeing is believing
and still nothings been done yet and its been two weeks. The street-
lights=-there was a pledge last meeting with thirty days--well we're
not saying nothing about that because you still have two weeks to
go on streetlights to have them in operation, but we have to answer
to these taxpayers, they signed this petition and it ' s no more than
right that we see that this petition gets carried out almost to its
full amount and we intend to do so. I also, if I don't get action
on this--within a reasonable amount of time--and if it runs out ; I 've
already made plans--I 've got paperwork and I 've" got stories., and I 've
got a case all built up to contact 60 Minutes and get it on CBS
60 Minutes. We mean business.
SUPERVISOR PELL: Thank you. Anybody else on this topic before
we move on? If not we will move on to Public Notices.
II . PUBLIC NOTICES.
COUNCILMAN MURPHY: 1. Notice of Complete Application from the
N.Y.S. D.E.C. by Edward Deutsch to subdivide a 2. 58 acre parcel into
two lots, fill these lots with approximately 5000 cubic yards of
material then construct one family dwelling and sanitary system on
each with a minimum of 75 ft. and 100 ft. respectively from .tidal ----
wetlands. The project is located on property between Pine Place
and Cedar Lane in the vicinity of Gillette Drive. Comments to
New. York D.E.C. by ,June loth. This is posted on the Town Clerk' s
Bulletin Board for anyone to read.
2. Notice of Complete Application from the N.Y.S. D.E.C. by
Harry S. Oliver to construct a 25 ft. by 25 ft . addition onto south
and west sides of existing one family dwelling. No� parts of which
will be closer ,to wetlands than house. Project site on Great Pond
north side of Soundview Avenue between lands now or, formerly of• ' .
Schold and Milne, Southold, ' Suffolk County. Comments to New York
D.E.C. , Dan Larkin, by June 17th. This also is posted on 'the Town
Clerk' s Bulletin Board.
3. Notice of Complete Application to the N.Y.S. D.E.C. by
Winds Way Building Corp. by The Land Use Company to construct a
single family home, sanitary system and a 120 ft .± . CCA timber
bulkhead at and above mean high water. Dredge 110 cubic yards
of sand from in front of proposed bulkhead except for the area.
of intertidal marsh at the northern most 6 ft. of the bulkhead.
Project is Jocated opposite #345 Snug Harbor Road, on Gull Pond
in Greenport. - Comments to Dan Larkin, New York D.E.C. by June
24th, 1983. This is posted on the Town Clerk' s Bulletin Board.
4. Notice of Complete Application to the N.Y.S. D.E.C. by
Daniel Silverman to dredge 1000 cubic yards of material from the
northern end of Wunneweta Pond, adjacent to Wunneweta Road and
construct a 4 ft . by 40 ft. catwalk with a 4 ft . by� 12 ft. ramp
and three 6 ft. by 16 ft . floating docks. All dredge spoil to be
trucked to an approved upland site. Project site is at Nassau
Point west. of Wunneweta Road, Southold Town. Comments to Dan
Larkin, New York D.E.C. , Stony Brook, by June 24. This again is
posted on the,. Town Clerk' s Bulletin Board. That ' s the four of
them, Bill.
SUPERVISOR PELL: Thank you. Under Communications we have five
tonight on the agenda.
III . COMMUNICATIONS.
1. Letter in reference to dredging Brushes Creek which the
Board will respond to (from Ralph Merrill) .
2. Letter from the Greenport Public Schools requesting use
of the Town funds which is put up by the state to take place .during
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the winter months in the rollers t ri- program.
3. Letter from N.Y.S. Division of Equalization and Assessment
notifying the Town Board that we will receive $32 , 552.00 as part
of the ALRM system which the Town Assessors implemented last year.
We got this notice on the 31st of last month and the money arrived
yesterday to go into the Town General Fund. It was figured in our
budget. We did figure it as income.
4. Letter from FEMA - Federal Emergency Management Agency
regarding the Wave Height in Southold Town, Flood Elevation and
the different A zones and V zones. Mr. Tuthill , Town Engineer,
went down to Washington, D.C. on April 12th and met with these
people to tell them that we quite didn't believe or. think their
findings were accurate and we had information to have them revised.
I did have a telephone call from this office after Mr. Tuthill was
there and came back--the gentleman I spoke to, I forget his name,
but I said to him, "Has. any other Town been. so much involved as
Southold Town has in this?" He said, "No, your Town is one of the
few, if not the only Town, that thoroughly has taken an interest
in going after to make sure these things are accurate." I told.
'Mr. Tuthill when he was in to present it to the Town Board that
this is the reputation he has built in Washington. This is his
second or third time there for this Town and he ' s doing a fine job.
5. Letter from Adolph G. Westerlund and Josephine H. Boyd
in reference to the celebration of the 300th Year Anniversary of
Suffolk County and a parade that is going to take place this fall
and they are asking for support from the Town on it . It will be
referred to the committee (Town Tercentenary) that is heading this
and chaired by Town Historian Mrs. Goodrich. Then she will come
back with her recommendation to the Board.
IV. PUBLIC HEARINGS.
SUPERVISOR PELL: We had one public hearing today at 3:00 o' clock
and another at 3: 30. We will reconvene the 3:00 o ' clock one after
'this meeting is over.
V. RESOLUTIONS.
1. Moved by Councilman Murphy, seconded by Justice Edwards,
WHEREAS, Charles Zahra and Alfred Grassklaus applied to the Southold
Town Board for a permit under the provisions of the Wetland Ordinance
of the Town of Southold, application dated April 13, 1983, and
WHEREAS; said . application was referred to the Southold Town' Trustees
and Southold Town Conservation Advisory Council for their findings
and recommendations, and
WHEREAS; a public hearing was held by the Town Board with respect to
said application on the 24th day of May, 1983, at which time all
interested persons were given an opportunity to be heard, now,
.therefore, be it
RESOLVED that. Charles Zahra and Alfred Grassklaus be granted permission
under the provisions of the Wetland Ordinance of the Town of Southold
to construct a retaining wall at Eugene' s Creek, off of the east side
of Eugene' s Road, Cutchogue, New York, PROVIDED the Town Engineer
makes an inspection and submits a report of findings to the Board
of Town Trustees. This permit shall expire on ;June .7, 1984 if work
has not commenced; there shall be two inspections required; and the
Town Clerk shall be notified when the project is completed.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman
Townsend, Councilman Murphy; Councilman Nickles, Supervisor
Pell. No: Councilman Murdock.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
2. Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Councilman Murdock, it was
RESOLVED that pursuant to Article 8 of the Environmental Conservation
Law State Environmental Quality Review and 6NYCRR Part 617, Section
617. 10 and Chapter 44 of the Code of the Town of Southold, notice is
hereby given that the Southold Town Board, as lead agency for the
action described below, has determined that the project , which is
unlisted, will not have a significant effect on 'the environment .
Description of Action: Application of Roger Stoutenburgh for a
Wetland Permit t8 c cnstruct a dock at Mud Creek, off west side of
Bay Avenue, Cutchogue, New York.
The project has been determined not to have a significant
effect on the environment for the following .reasons:
An environmental assessment has been submitted which indicated
that no significant adverse effect to the environment are likely to
occur should the project be implemented as planned.
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Because there has been a response from the Board of Southold
Town Trustees and Southold Town Conservation Advisory Council
indicating that this project would not have a significant effect
on the environment.
Because there has been no response in the allotted time from
the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation and the
Southold Town Building Department , it is assumed that there are no
objections nor comments from those agencies.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards , Councilman
Townsend, .Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman
Nickles, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
3. Moved by Councilman Murdock, seconded by Justice Edwards, it, was
RESOLVED that pursuant to Article 8 of the Environmental Conservation
Law State Environmental Quality Review and 6NYCRR Part 617, Section
617. 10 and Chapter 44 of the Code of the Town of Southold, notice is-
hereby given that the Southold Town Board, as lead agency for the
action described below, has determined that the project , which is
unlisted, will not have a significant effect on the environment.
Description of Action: Application of Edward R. Yanke for a Wetland
Permit to construct catwalk and floating dock at Corey Creek, 75 Wampum
Way, Southold, New York.
The project has been determined not to have a significant effect
on the environment for the following reasons:
An environmental assessment has been submitted which indicated
that no significant adverse effect to the environment are likely to
occur should the project be implemented as planned.
Because there has been a response from the Board of Southold.
Town Trustees and Southold Town Conservation Advisory Council
indicating that this project would not have a significant effect
on the environment.
Because there has been no response in the .allotted time from
the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation and the
Southold Town Building Department , it is assumed that there are .no
objections nor comments from those agencies.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman -
Townsend, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman
Nickles, 'Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
4. Moved by Councilman Murphy, seconded by Councilman Nickles, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board declare itself lead agency
in regard to the State Environmental Quality Review, Act in the .
matter of the application of Christine and Edward Viola for a
Wetland Permit on certain property located on Deep Hole Creek,
at Deep Hole Drive, Mattituck, New York.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman
Townsend, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman
Nickles, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
5. Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded by Councilman Nickles,
WHEREAS, Edward R. Yanke applied to the Southold Town Board for
a permit under the provisions of the Wetland Ordinance of the Town
of Southold, application dated April 21, 1983, and
WHEREAS, said application was referred to the Southold Town Trustees
and Southold Town Conservation Advisory Council forltheir findings
and recommendations, and
WHEREAS, a public hearing was held by the Town Board with respect to
said application on the 24th",day of May, 1983, at which time all
interested persons were given an opportunity to be heard, now,
therefore, be it
RESOLVED that Edward R. Yanke be granted permission under the.
provisions of the Wetland Ordinance of the Town of Southold to
construct a catwalk and floating dock at Corey Creek, 75 Wampum
Way, Southold, New York. This permit shall expire on June 7, 1984
if work has not commenced; there shall be two inspections required; _-
and the Town Clerk shall be notified when the project is completed. _
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman
Townsend, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman
Nickles, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
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6. Moved by Councilman Nickles, seconded 'by Justice Edwards,
WHEREAS, Roger Stoutenburgh applied to the Southold Town Board for
a permit under the provisions of the Wetland Ordinance of the Town
of Southold, application dated April 22, 1983, and
WHEREAS, said application was referred to the Southold Town Trustees
and Southold Town Conservation Advisory Council for their findings
and recommendations, and .
WHEREAS, a public hearing was held by the Town Board with respect to
said application on the 24th day of May, 1983, at which time all
interested persons were given an opportunity to be heard, now,
therefore, be it
RESOLVED that Roger Stoutenburgh be granted permission under the
provisions of the Wetland Ordinance of the Town of Southold to
construct a dock at Mudd Creek, off west side of Skunk Lane,
Cutchogue, New York. This permit shall expire on June 7, 1984 if
work has not commenced; there shall be two inspections required;
and the Town Clerk shall be notified when the project is completed.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman
Townsend, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman
Nickles, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
7. Moved by Councilman Murphy, seconded by Councilman Murdock, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby sets
8:00 P.M. , Tuesday, July '15, '1983, Southold Town Hall , Main Road,
Southold, New York as time and place to hear citizen views on
local needs to be met with Year X 'Federal Community Development
Block Grant Funds.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman
Townsend, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman
Nickles, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
8. Moved by Supervisor Pell, seconded by Councilman Nickles, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
authorizes the Village of Greenport to install one fire hydrant --
near the terminus of Island View Lane, Greenport , New York.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman
Townsend, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman
Nickles, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
9. Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Justice Edwards,
WHEREAS, Dalchet Corporation, et al, has heretofore applied to the .
Southold Town Board, pursuant to Chapter 44 of the Code of the Town
of Southold, for permission to change the zone from "A" Residential
and Agricultural District to "B-1" General Business District on
certain property located east of Stillwater Avenue and west of Harbor
Lane, on Route 25, Cutchogue, New York,
NOW, THEREFORE, IT IS RESOLVED AS FOLLOWS: --
1. That pursuant to the provisions of Article 8 of the
Environmental Conservation Law, Part 617 of. Title 6 of the New
York State Codes, Rules and Regulations, and Chapter 44 of the
Southold Town Code, the Southold Town Board, as lead agency, does
hereby determine that the action propdzsed is a -Type I action and
is likely to have a significant effect on the environment .
2. That the Town Clerk shall file and circulate such deter-
mination as required by the aforementioned law, rules and code.
3. That the Town Clerk immediately notify the applicant,
Dalchet Corporation, et al, of this determination, and further
request said applicant to prepare a draft environmental impact
statement, all in accordance with said law, rules and code.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman
Townsend, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman
Nickles, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
10. Moved by Councilman Murdock, seconded by Councilman Nickles, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants
permision to the Senior Citizens Club of Southold Township, Mattituck
Unit , to hire one 44 passenger school bus at a cost of $545. 00 to
transport their group to Mystic Seaport Museum, Mystic, Connecticut ,
on September 20, 1983.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman
Townsend, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman
Nickles, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
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11. Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded by Councilman Murphy, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts
the bid of Morbark Industries, Inc. , at $53,475.00 for supplying the
Town with one wood chipper, all in accordance with the Information
and Instructions to Bidders, the Specifications, Form of Contract
and Notice to Bidders.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman
Townsend, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman
Nickles, Supervisor Pell.
This r esolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
12. Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Councilman Nickles, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts
the bid of Muirfield Contracting, Inc. , at $37. 84 per square yard,
to furnish all the materials, implements and incidentals and to
furnish labor and do all the work required for the removal and
replacement of sidewalks and curbing at various sites in the Town
of Southold, in accordance with the Specifications and Notice to
Bidders for same.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman
Townsend, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman
Nickles, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
13. Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded by Supervisor Pell ,
WHEREAS, the Town of Southold (Fishers Island Sewer District) herein
called the "Applicant , " after thorough consideration of the various._
aspects of the problem and study of available data, has hereby
determined that the construction of certain works, required for the
treatment of sewage, generally described as Fishers Island Sewage
Collection, Treatment and Disposal System and identified as Project
Number C-36-1149, herein called the "Project, " is desirable and in
the public interest , and to that end it is necessary that action
preliminary to the construction of said Project be taken immediately; and
WHEREAS, under the Federal Water Pollution Control Act , as Amended,
the United States of America has authorized the making of grants to
aid in financing the cost of construction of necessary treatment works
to prevent the discharge of untreated or inadequately treated sewage
or other waste into any waters and for the purpose of reports, plans
and specificiation in connection therewith; and
WHEREAS, Chapter 659 of the Laws of 1972 of the State of New York
provide financial aid for the construction of Water Quality Improve-
ment Projects; and
WHEREAS, the Applicant has examined and duly considered the Water
Pollution Control Act, (As Amended and Chapter 659 of the Laws of
1972- of the State of New York and the applicant deems it to be in.
the public interest and benefit to file an application under these
laws and to authroize in connection therewith;
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED by the Town Board of the Town of
Southold:
1. That the filing of application in the form required by
the State of New York and the United States in conformity with the
Water Pollution Control Act , As Amended and Chapter 659 of the Laws
of 1972 of the State of New York is hereby authorized including all
understandings and assurances ' contained in said applications .
2. That the Supervisor of the Town of. Southold is directed
and authorized as the official representative of the applicant to
act in connection with the applications and to provide such additiona;
information as may be required.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman
Townsend, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman
Nickles, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
14. Moved by,'Justice Edwards, seconded by Councilman Nickles, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board, having presented the findings of
the Fishers Island Wastewater Facilities Plan at the Public Hearing
on May 14, 1982, and having received comments at the Public Hearing
which necessitated the revisions to the Plan which are contained in
Addendum #1, July 1982, does hereby accept and approve the Facilities
Plan as prepared by Henry Souther Engineering, Inc.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman
Townsend, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman
Nickles, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
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15. Moved by Councilman Murdock, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints
the following individuals to the Southold Town Water Advisory
Committee, effective this date, June 7, 1983, for a..one year term, __
to expire June 7, 1984: Sarah M. Mills, Ruth D. Oliva, Franklin
Bear, Martin Trent , James I . Monsell.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman
Townsend, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman
Nickles, ,Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
16. Moved by Councilman Murphy, seconded by Councilman Nickles, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby. grants
permission to the Mattituck Chamber of Commerce to close Love Lane
and Love Lane-Pike Street intersection, 75 feet east and 75 feet
west , including the parking lot opposite the North Fork Bank and
Trust -Company, from 8:00 A.M. to 4:00 P.M. on July 16, 1983, for
the purpose of holding their Annual Mattituck Sale Day; provided
they secure the necessary insurance to hold the Town of 'Southold
harmless.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwardq, Councilman
Townsend, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman
Nickles, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
17. Moved by Councilman Nickles, seconded by Councilman Murdock, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants
permission to Griswold-Terry-Glover Post No. '803, American Legion ,
Southold, New York, to use Town roads - Hobart Road and Boisseau
Avenue, as staging areas for the Suffolk County Legion Convention
parade to be held at 12 Noon, Saturday, June 11, 1983, provided
they secure the necessary insurance to hold the Town of Southold
harmless.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman
Townsend, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman
Nickles, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly -ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR PELL: Number 18 we are not going to act upon at this
time. (Place M. I .A. P.O.W. bumper stickers on all Town vehicles.
Fly M. I .A. P.O.W. flat at Town Hall. )
19. Moved by Councilman Nickles, seconded by Councilman Townsend, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints
Ernest G. Radford to the Southold Town Board of Assessment Review,
effective June 7, 1983 through February 22, 1985, to fill the unexpired
term of Theodore Heuser.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: .Justice Edwards, Councilman
Townsend, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman
Nickles, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
20. Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded" by Councilman Murphy, it was
RESOLVED that Supervisor William R. Pell , III be and he hereby is
authorized and directed to enter into an agreement with John Clavin
as a part-time Bay Constable for the Town of Southold at Fishers
Island, at a sum of $1,000. 00 for the period commencing June 15,
1983 and ending on September 15, 1983; Mr. Clavin to furnish a _
suitable boat , together with the necessary outboard motor and
required equipment for the operation of said boat and be responsible
for any and all expenses for the repair and -maintenance of said
equipment; the Town to pay .all expenses for fuel required for the
operation of the boat of John Clavin while performing services for
the Town of Southold during the term of the agreement.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman
Townsend, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman
Nickles, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
21. Moved by Councilman Murphy, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that Supervisor . William R. Pell , III :. be and he hereby is
authorized and directed to enter into an agreement with Stephen
Malin'owski as an Assistant Bay Constable to aid part-time Bay
Constable John Clavin at Fishers Island, at .a sum of $1,000. 00
for the period commencing June 15, 1983 and ending on September
15, 1983; Mr. Malinowski to furnish a suitable boat , together
with the necessary outboard motor and required equipment for the
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operation of said boat and be responsible for any and all expenses
for the fuel , repair and maintenance of said equipment .
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman
Townsend, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman
Nickles, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
22. Moved by Councilman Murdock; seconded by Councilman Nickles,
WHEREAS, a Local Law, entitled, "A Local Law to Amend Chapter 100
(Zoning) of the Southold Town Code in Relation to Area and Yard
Regulations " has been presented to the Southold Town Board at
this meeting, now, therefore, it is
RESOLVED that the Town Clerk be and she hereby is directed to
transmit a copy of this Local Law- to the Southold 'Town Planning
Board pursuant to the provisions of. Section 100-150 of the Town,
and to the Suffolk County Planning Department pursuant to the
provisions of Article XIII of the Suffolk County Charter.
LOCAL LAW NO. 1983
A Local Law to amend Chapter 100 (Zoning) of the
Southold Town Code in relation to Area and Yard
regulations,
BE IT ENACTED by the Town Board of the Town 'of Southold :as
follows:
Chapter 100 of the Southold Town Code (Zoning) is hereby amended as follows:
.'Section 100-31 thereof is hereby amended to read as follows:
Section 100-31 - Bulk and Parking Requirements
No building or premises shall be used and no building or part
thereof shall be erected or altered in the A Residential and
Agricultural District unless the same conforms to the following Bulk
and Parking requirements, to wit:
A. In the case of a lot held in single and separate ownership prior
to November 23, 1971 and thereafter, with an area of less than
forty thousand (40, 000 sq. ft.) square feet, a single family
dwelling may be constructed thereon, provided that the
requirements of Column A of the Bulk and Parking Schedule
incorporated into this Chapter are complied with.
B. The Bulk and Parking requirements for single 'family dwellings
as set forth in Column A-40 of the Bulk and Parking Schedule
incorporated into this chapter shall apply too the following lots,
to wit:
(1) All lots shown on Major and Minor subdivision maps which
were granted final approval by the Planning Board
subsequent to November 23, 1971 and prior to May, 20,
1983.
(2) All lots shown on Major subdivision maps upon which the
Planning Board has held a hearing for preliminary map
approval prior to May 20, 1983.
(3) All lots shown on Minor subdivision maps that have been
granted sketch plan approval by the Planning Board prior
to May 20, 1983.
(4) All lots setoff or created by approval of. the Planning
Board subsequent to November 23, 1971 and prior to, May
20, 1983.
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C. The Bulk and Parking requirements' for single family dwellings
set forth in Column A-80 of the Bulk and Parking Schedule
incorporated into this chapter shall apply to the following lots,
to wit:
(1) All lots shown on Minor subdivision maps which have been
granted sketch plan approval by the Planning Board on or
after May 20, 1983.
(2) All lots shown on Majar subdivision maps upon which the
Planning Board has held a hearing for preliminary map
approval on or after May 20, 1983,
(3) All lots setoff or created by approval of the Planning
Board on or after May 20, 1983.
D. The Bulk and Parking requirements for two family dwellings set
forth in Column A-160 of the Bulk and Parking Schedule
incorporated in this chapter shall apply to the following. lots, to
wit:
( 1) All lots shown on Minor subdivision maps which have been
granted sketch plan approval by the Planning Board on or
after May 20, 1983.
(2) All lots shown on Major subdivision maps upon which the
Planning Board has held a hearing for preliminary approval
on or after May 20, 1983. �.
(3) All lots setoff or created by Approval of the Planning
Board on or after May 20, 1983.
11 . Section 100-34 thereof is repealed.
111 . The "Bulk and Parking Schedule" applicable to the "A" Residential and
Agricultural Districts is amended to read as follows, to wit:
BULK AND PARKING SCHEDULE
A RESIDENCE DISTRICT
SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS TWO FAMILY
DWELLINGS'
A A-40 A-80 A-160
Minimum
Requirements
Total Lot area (sq.ft.) 40,000 80, 000 160, 000
Lot width (ft.) 150 175 270
Lot depth (ft.) 175 250 400
Front yard (ft.) 35 50 60 60
One side .yard (ft. ) 10 15 20 30
Both side yards (ft.) 25 35 45 50
Rear yard (ft.) 35 50 75 75
Livable floor area (sq.ft.)
per dwelling unit 850 850 850 850
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Off-street parking spaces
per dwelling unit 2 2 2 3
Maximum
Permitted
Lot coverage (percent) 20 20 20 26
Building height
Number of stories 21 21 2 2Z
Feet 35 35 35 35
IV. This Local Law shall take effect immediately.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman
Townsend, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman
Nickles, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR PELL: Number 23 was signed by the Governor of our
State this morning so we could act upon it today.
23. Moved by Councilman Murphy, seconded by Councilman Townsend,
WHEREAS, Chapter 218 of the Laws of 1983 provides that at least
one hundred fifty days prior to any biennial town election, the
town board of the Town of Southold may adopt a resolution to
provide that the term of office of the Trustees of the Town of
Southold shall be four years, and further provided that such
resolution shall be submitted to the qualified electors of the
town for their approval or disapproval at the next biennial town
election, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board wishes to provide that the term of office
of. the Trustees of the Town of Southold shall be four years. _--
NOW, THEREFORE, IT IS RESOLVED AS FOLLOWS:
.1. The term of office of the Trustees of the Town of Southold
shall ' be four years.
2. A proposition shall be submitted to the qualified electors
of the. Town for their approval or disapproval at the next biennial
town election to be held on the 8th day of November, 1983, and this
resolution shall become operative only if approved by the affirmative
vote of a majority of said electors voting upon such proposition.
3. If a proposition for the approval of this resolution is
approved by the affirmative vote of a majority of the qualified
electors of the town voting thereon at said biennial town election ,
then this resolution shall become and be effective immediately.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman
Townsend, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman
Nickles, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
24. Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded by Councilman Nickles, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants
permission to the Board of Commissioners of the% Fishers Island
Ferry District to engage the services of the following individuals
to operate the Fishers Island Ferry District movie theatre during
the summer months:
Edwin Horning - Cashier----------------------$150. 00 per week
J. B. ' Hartsfield - Projectionist-------------$ 35.00 per show
Charles Stepanek - Clerk---------------------$ 80. 00 per week
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman
Townsend, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman
Nickles, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
25. Moved by Councilman Murdock, seconded by Councilman Nickles, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby declares
itself lead agency in regard to the State Environmental Quality
Review Act in the matter of the petition of Brecknock Associates
for a change of zone from "A" Residential and Agricultural District
to "M" Light Multiple Residence District on certain property situate
near Greenport , Town of Southold, New York.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman
Townsend, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman
Nickles, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
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26. Moved by Councilman Murphy, seconded by Councilman Nickles,
WHEREAS, a petition was received from Brecknock Associates
requesting a change of zone on certain property at Greenport ,
Town of Southold, said petition for a change from "A" Residential
and Agricultural District to "M" Light Multiple Residence District ,
now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED that the Town Clerk of the Town of Southold be and she
hereby is directed to transmit this application to the Southold
Town Planning Board in accordance with Article XV, Section 100-
150(B) of the Code of the Town of Southold.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman
Townsend, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman
Nickles, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
27. Moved by Councilman. Nickles, seconded by Supervisor Pell , it was
RESOLVED that Supervisor William R. Pell, III be and he hereby
is authorized and directed to enter into an agreement , on behalf
of the Town of Southold, with - engineering firm of Hawkins, Webb
and Jaeger for an engineering study for a new roof covering at
the Peconic Senior/Youth Center, at the following approximate costs:
1. One thousand dollars ( $1,000. 00) if they are
able to locate design and shop drawings from
the building supplier or designer.
2. Eighteen hundred dollars ($1,800. 00) if drawings
are not available and they .have to measure steel
members sizes and make new calculations. This
would include descriptions of corrective work
required, if any.
3. An additional six hundred dollars ( $600. 00) if
detailed drawings have to be made for any reason.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards Councilman
Townsend, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock; Councilman
Nickles, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. —
28. Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Councilman Murdock, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants
permission to Country Time Cycle to use the . following 'Town roads to
conduct their Country 'Time Super Star Contest on July 17, 1983
starting at 8:00 A.M. : . Wickham Avenue, Elijah' s. Lane, Oregon Road,
Mill Lane, and Grand Avenue, provided they secure the necessary .
insurance to hold the Town of Southold harmless.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman
Townsend, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman
Nickles, Supervisor Pell .
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
29. Moved by Councilman Murdock, seconded by Councilman Townsend, it was
(a) RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby creates
two (2) full-time Equipment Operator positions in the Department of
Public Works.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman
Townsend, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman
Nickles, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
29. Moved by Councilman Murdock, seconded by Councilman Townsend, it was
(b) RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby creates
eight (8) part-time Sanitation Attendant positions in the Department
of Public Works. The salary for said positions shall be $4. 00 per
hour, and shall consist of fourteen (14) five (5) hour shifts.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman
Townsend, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman _
Nickles, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
30. Moved by Councilman Nickles, seconded by Councilman Murphy, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
authorizes the payment of $4,999.00 to Charles Graves, the Town
Board negotiator for the P.B.A. contract .
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman
Townsend, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman
Nickles, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
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31. Moved by Councilman Nickles, seconded by Councilman Murphy, it was
RESOLVED that the form of the following permits, applications, and
other forms submitted to the Town Clerk, and stamped by the' Town
Clerk on this date, are hereby approved by the Town Board and the
stamped copies are to be filed with the Town Clerk:
Building Department Inspection form (two parts) .
Notice of Violation by Building Inspector ' s Office
(82" x 52" red card) .
Notice "This building is unsafe and its use or occupancy
has been prohibited by the Building Inspector" (11" x
82" orange card) .
Form letter to Commissioner of Public Works, Suffolk County
from the Building Inspector (82" x 1111) .
Building Permit form from the Building Inspector
(Form No. 2 - Rev. 6/30/80 - 82" x 112") .
Application for Permit to hold "Yard Sale, Garage Sale,
Attic Sale, Auction, Other Sale of Personal Property"
to the Building Department . (Rv. 4/80 - 3 parts - 82" x 11") .
Development Permit form from the Building Department
(Form No. 11 - 4/80 - 82" x 11211) .
Court of Special Sessions form - -Violation Complaint
(SSCS-3000 - 82" x 1411) .
Application for a Building Permit form to the Building
Department (82" x 14" double sided) .
Building Permit form from Building Inspector ' s Office
(1111 x 82") .
Certificate of Occupancy form from Building Department
(82" x 11" - Rev. 1/81) .
Certificate of Occupancy form from Building Department
(82" x 14") .
Certificate of Occupancy - Nonconforming Premises form from
Building Department (82" x 14") .
Consent to Inspection form to Building Inspector' s Office
(82" x 14") .
Certificate of Occupancy - Nonconforming Premises form from
Building Inspector (82" x 1411) .
Application for "Home Improvement Contractor ' s License Local
Law No. 4 1975 form (82" x 14" - double sided) . --
Home Improvement Contractors License form from Building
Department (11" x 8211) .
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman
Townsend, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman
Nickles, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
32. Moved by Supervisor Pell, seconded by Councilman Nickles, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby employs
Alexander F. Stepnoski as a Maintenance Mechanic II , effective
June 16, 1983, at a salary of $11,000. 00 per annum, with no step
increases.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman
Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Supervisor
Pell. Abstain: Councilman Townsend.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. `
33. Moved by Councilman Murdock, seconded by Councilman Townsend, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby employs
Suzanne Walden as a summer clerical employee, effective immediately,
at a salary of $4.00 per hour, to work one half of the time in the
Building Department. office and one half of the time in the Board of
Appeals office.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman
Townsend, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman
Nickles, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR PELL: Town Board, that ends the text of the agenda
we went over today. Have I left out anything or omitted? (No
response. ) If not , to the Scouts in the back of the room, we
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started this morning at 9:00 o 'clodk.,. ...,We went through it and
reviewed every item on the agenda. 'W6 didn ' t break for supper_
until 6: 30 P.M. and were back at 7: 30 for this meeting. Now,
the Town Board did put in a full day on this and many of these
decisions that were made today were also made and recommended to
the Town Board by the different Town Committees that are set up.
The Landfill Committee is a case in point I will pick out . When
did your committee meet , Larry?
COUNCILMAN MURDOCK: When did we meet the last time? Monday
morning. We met Monday morning at 8:00 A.M. and we finished
at around a quarter after 10. That was after having attended
an all day seminar on Friday.
SUPERVISOR PELL: The Landfill Committee, which we did a lot with
tonight , had an all day seminar they attended, three of them, out
of the six Town Board members on Friday. They met Monday morning
from 8:00 o' clock until a quarter after 10 and made recommendations
to the Town Board today, the full Town Board, and we act upon their
recommendations. Just because we go through a meeting like this in
an hour it does not really tell the story of the amount of time
that the Councilmen put in before a decision is made. Now I would
like you all to identify yourself back there so it will go into
the minutes that you are here. (Tom Daly, Ed Baumann, Bill Plock)
(They are working on their Communications Badge. ) Good luck to
all of you. We hope to see you all back here as Eagle Scouts some
day. You' re on your way. Does anybody wish to address the Town
Board? Yes, sir--
MR. FRANK CARLIN: This time it ' s not about the road or the bridge.
This is not going to be maybe that friendly this time I want to say,
but I feel I have to say it . I 've been to four Town Board meetings
already and I have not yet to see the Highway Supervisor attend a
meeting. ' I don' t think that ' s right. He ' s paid by the taxpayers,
he' s voted by the taxpayers, it ' s his responsibility to be here
to answer questions. I know somebody might want to ask a question.
I know I have some. It would be appreciated if this would be looked
into. And I ' ll say one more thing, Riverhead Town when they have a
Board meeting, which is tonight , the whole Town Board is there, the
Chief of Police, Town Supervisor, Highway Supervisor, Councilmen,
Tax Assessors and all the way down the line. I ' d appreciate it if
this be looked into. And I mentioned last week the lights and the
picnic benches back in September. Well, I didn't quite explain
really to you what I meant by September. You had an open Board
meeting--if you check your minutes--you had ,an open Board meeting
September 21, 1982. Open to the people because you had federal
monies that you wanted people to suggest things to be spent on,
and that ' s the reason why I was here. I suggested the light be
put up on the curve and on the bridge, also some picnic benches
at the park, which was all a negative. So that explains by what
I meant by last September. Well I have faith at this time we' ll
have our lights up and I think that we will have them up. Now,
I don' t understand one thing. The small thing that you request
from this Town you can never get done as far as I 'm concerned.
The Knights of Columbus on Depot Lane asked for one street light
to be installed and placed in front of their building there, their
place of business, their organization. The women go to bingo there
at night. Now I understand, I 'm not sure, I 'm not a hundred percent
sure on this answer the Town gave them, but I think it was no money.
Are we that low, gentlemen? We can say we can 't put one street light
up for an organization? Really?
SUPERVISOR PELL: Anything else?
MR. CARLIN: Yes, back to the picnic benches. I ' d -like to see a
half a dozen picnic benches up there. Last Sunday I happened to
run out of film for my camera, I was going to go and take a picture
of this family on the ground eating their lunch. What a disgrace
to the Town it was, but I happened to run out of film. Now this one
is from the CURVES Committee, like I said, we ' re going to continue
this CURVES Committee for the Town of Southold for the. good of the
people because we think it can do the people some good and for the
safety. Now I have one, this is a request from CURVES--Sound Avenue
and Pacific Street in Mattituck. May 27 I happened to be there and
there was a puddle of water there about 150 feet , 8 inches deep. The
south end of Pacific Street on Route 25 there' s a little gully there ,
that was full of water, no drains there. Now I understand up by
Pacific Street there and Sound Avenue there is a drain there but
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evidently they 're not doing the job. Now, I took pictures of it ,
I don ' t have them ready, but the next Board meeting I ' ll have it
official in writing, requesting that be looked into by Mr. Dean.
If he was here I ' d be able to address him and photos of that water.
They're not developed yet , I couldn't bring them tonight , and of
also the water on up. In fact , when I was there taking the picture
there was almost an accident . The water was almost 150 feet long,
that puddle, not a puddle, it almost a lake and I understand that
the drains are not doing the job and there ' s no reason why the water
should be there and I ' d like to address, if he was 'here, Mr. Dean,
to find out why something hasn ' t been done about it. So, I ' ll be
making a lot more Town Board meetings as I find it very interesting
and I 'm going to make this my second hobby, I got a lot more thing
and I know what ' s going on around Town, I know quite a bit and you're
going to see me quite often here, but we're going to continue on with
the CURBS because we figure that this is something good for the .
people and safety and if we can do anything for somebody to help
them or save a life we intend to do it . This is the way I feel
and I say what ' s on my mind, and whatever I say+.. I can usually back
up. I can prove it or I can back it up. I don't just come up
here and draw things out of the sky. I understand you had a comment?
SUPERVISOR PELL: No, I was going to respond to some of your things.
MR. CARLIN: Yes, sir, go right ahead.
SUPERVISOR PELL: Picnic benches, as I said two weeks ago when you
were here, I would look into them. I haven 't got to them, but I
will look into see if we have any picnic benches and if we can put
some up there. That I will respond to. I made a note of that.
Mr. Dean is at all Work Session of the Board from start 'til finish.
The Chief of Police usually will come in for a Work Session of the
Board. Today the Chief was out of town, and his executive officer
did come in and address the Board. We do not make the Chief stay
here all day long, we feel we can be better served if he comes in
and makes a report . Mr. Dean does stay with us all day long. ' We
have, at different times, called our Assessors in, Tax Receiver: ---
We did not have him in today, we had him in two weeks ago when we
met . We went over some stuff with him. We do' call all our elected
officials in at different times to talk to the Board.
MR. CARLIN: No, what I 'm talking about here is the open Board
meeting like we have tonight . I feel he should be here, not at a
closed Board meeting like you have during the day. I feel at an
open Town Board meeting he should be here. He' s part of the Town
Board, he' s a paid official , he should be here to be able to answer
questions directly, not have to go through Mr. Murphy who is his
boss, so I might want to say something to him and I have some things
to say to him, believe me, but he ' s not here.
SUPERVISOR PELL: Councilman Nickles would like to respond to that .
COUNCILMAN NICKLES: I 'd like to respond to that . Ray Dean is .
Superintendent of Highways and Ray Dean' s only boss is the people
of Southold Town. Ray Dean does not work for the Town Board, Ray
Dean is not on the Town Board, in fact you are looking at the entire
Town Board, which is ,the six gentlemen here. The other people on
here, one is the Town Attorney and one is the Town Clerk. They are
not on the Town Board. As Mr. Pell pointed out , the Highway Super-
intendent is here from our start in the morning until the time we
left here at 6: 30, and he does not sit on this Town, Board. If you' d
like to speak to Mr. Dean about attending public meetings, that ' s
up. to you, but it ' s not up to this Board to direct him. He is just
the same as the Tax Assessors. They're independently elected. The
only control that we have over the Tax Assessors is their budget
when they submit it in the fall. We can 't tell them how much to
appraise people' s property or lower their assessments or whatever
and we can' t direct them to attend Town Board meetings. They 're
available to the public, as is Mr. Dean. I know he keeps .regular
office hours. The meetings that we have, by the way, in the daytime
are not closed. They're open to the public. The only time we close
our meetings is if it involves litigation or personnel and I 'm sure
someone on the Board will convey your sentiments, but I want it to be
clearly understood that the Chief of Police . reports to this Board
and I don' t believe the way it ' s set up he reports to the public-
at-large. He is a department. head, he reports directly to us. If
we have a question of him or if we 're aware that some item is arising
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that may come up in the evening session or even a daytime public
session that we're aware we may need him to assist us, then we invite
him to .come, but generally they only come, such as the Chief of Police,
when the Supervisor or the Town Board usually has him in once a month
to make a monthly report and to tell us of particular problems within
the Town and the six people up here are . your Town Board. We're .
responsible to you. Whatever your problems are we ' ll try to solve
them. If it relates to Mr. Dean I suggest you see Mr. Dean in person.
MR. CARLIN: Isn't Mr. -Dean voted by the people?
COUNCILMAN NICKLES: Yes, but he' s not on the Town Board, and he
doesn't hold meetings.
MR. CARLIN: He's hired by the Town.
COUNCILMAN NICKLES: He' s not hired by the Town. He is hired by
the people of Southold Town. He runs for office as Highway Super-
intendent .
MR. CARLIN: How can he be so different fror.-,-;other towns when .they
have their Supervisor--Riverhead has their Highway Supervisor at
every meeting that they have at night . How can he be so different?
Can you answer that?
COUNCILMAN NICKLES: - We feel we're different out here.
MR. CARLIN: I know you're different . How can you say that .
In Riverhead the Police Chief was there at their meetings and you
say you have open in the afternoon. Half the people are working
in the afternoon. Half the people can 't get here in the afternoon.
SUPERVISOR PELL: This is why, Mr. Carlin, I 've been on the Board
six years, probably senior member of the Board here. There has
. been set up since I 've been on here to operate--we used to operate
two daytime meetings. Because of what you just said, half the
people cannot get here, we have one meeting now at night and one _
in the afternoons. As Councilman Nickles says, the 'Working Sessions
are visited by many people, the press is there all day long. Today
we did go into Executive Session at quarter of two, I think, and got
out of it maybe quarter after, half past two. We were talking
negotiations on land and personnel. Other than that there was
people in this room all day long and Frank Bear was one of them,
I believe. They are open meetings. We do have people coming in
all day. We run--every Town has a way they run their Towns.
Riverhead might have a policy and they like to follow it to have
all their elected officials. Perhaps elected officials like to be
there when the public is there. In this Town for the last six
years there has been--when the Town Board meetings are in session,
the Town Clerk, who is responsible for the records of the Town, has
a responsibility to be there, and your Town Board members had the
responsibility. The rest of the elected officials that the public
elects answer only to the public who elect them. If Mr. Dean did
not show up in his highway barn, this Town Board could not do a
thing about it .
MR. CARLIN: He has no boss then?
SUPERVISOR PELL: Yes he has, you, you're the boss.
MR. CARLIN: Well, that 's what I 'm here for.
COUNCILMAN NICKLES: You have to go see him. He doesn't come here.
This is a Town Board meeting.
SUPERVISOR PELL: We have no control over elected officials. Elected
officials answer only to the people who elect them. We do control
the budgets. That ' s the only thing we control.
MR. CARLIN: Then from now on--I guess Mr. Murphy, you're his boss
as a Town Councilman, aren ' t you over Dean?
MR. MURPHY: No.
SUPERVISOR PELL: No, nobody is over Dean.
MR. CARLIN: Then who do I address at the next meeting if I have
something to say about the roads?
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COUNCILMAN MURPHY: Mr. Dean.
MR. CARLIN: But he' s not here.
COUNCILMAN NICKLES: You can address me or Joe Townsend. You
can address Joe Townsend, he' s chairman of the Highway Committee.
MR. CARLIN: My next Board meeting will be roughtly highways, so
I ' ll give you advance notice. Who will I address at the Town Board?
SUPERVISOR PELL: Why don't you stop in and see Mr. Dean?
MR. CARLIN: I have to have somebody I can address. What happens
if I want to say something to the Tax Assessor? I 've got a question
for him, where is he?
COUNCILMAN NICKLES: He' s right here in the Town Hall. You pick up'
the telephone and come down here, or come down, the place is open
five days a week 9:00 to 4:00. Mr. Dean' s in his office 8:00 o ' clock
in the morning until 4: 00 o ' clock.
MR. CARLIN: It just doesn' t seem right policy to me. Can I say one
more thing before I leave and that will be the end of this tonight
there will be a good many more to come. Getting back to Judge Tuthill.
I remember Judge Tuthill and I remember Mr. Price. Good people, rest
his soul in peace, Mr. Price and Judge Tuthill was wonderful `man.
I want to tell you how I got that one street light in front of my
house there fifteen years ago. I called Judge Tuthill up one night
and I told him I said, Judge you know, the trucks have no way to see
to back up here and it would be nice if we could put a street light
up here. He says, okay, Frank, I ' ll look into it for you. Within a
weeks time a street light was up and he put one down by the bridge
and he put one down by the curve and he called me up and he says,
are you satisfied, Frank, was that enough? I said, yeah, that will
help for now. I guess those boys are gone and those days are over.
Thank you.
SUPERVISOR PELL: Thank you.
COUNCILMAN MURDOCK: One thing I ' d like to respond to Mr. Carlin
about is unfortunately in those days they didn't have to deal with
the Long Island Lighting Company who has to have an engineer and
who has to tell you in about six weeks time whether you have permission
to rent space on their utility pole to put up a street light . It no
longer is a matter for us to say, well we want to put up six street
lights and we' ll do it, because we have already decided in discussion
today that six street lights will be installed to the west side of
the bridge. We have to write to the lighting company, we have to
give them the pole numbers, we have to request permission to put the
street lights on and the rent will be paid, and that process will
take six weeks to ten weeks and nobody in this Town Board .could move
it a day faster because we do not control LILCO.
MR. CARLIN: That ' s not the question. The question is you allow for
six weeks to ten weeks. You don 't allow for eight months. I asked
for street lights last September and this is eight months and I never
seen them yet . Who we kidding here, man? I understand it takes
time. I work with paper work all day long.
SUPERVISOR.'PELL: Thank you. Anybody else wish to address the
Board? Yes, sir---
MR. STUART HARVEY, Southold: The hydrant we put in. How much,
does it cost us?
SUPERVISOR PELL: It will cost us--the Village of Greenport puts
it in and then we pay a monthly rental charge of approximately
$75. 00 per year.
MR. HARVEY: Maintenance charge.
SUPERVISOR PELL: Maintenance, yes.
MR. HARVEY: Why do we have to put a new hydrant in? --
SUPERVISOR PELL: It.' s an area that has built up over the past
years and they `put a water main down there a few years ago.
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MR. HARVEY: Oh. Number 27: We 're back on the roof again. I think
this should be done as a survey to repair to repair it , not replace
it .
SUPERVISOR PELL: This is what it could be--the outfit could come
up with that recommendation.
MR. HARVEY: Because I don 't think that that--it ' s bad, but it ' s not
that bad.
SUPERVISOR PELL: This is one of the things that Mr. Meredith talked
about , whether it should be repaired or replaced or what .
MR. HARVEY: Okay. This M. I .A. banner. Is that open for discussion?
Are you going to discuss some other time?
SUPERVISOR PELL: The Town Board did decide to---we have numerous
request for banners to fly from the flag pole. Now we have the
County Legion Convention in Town. We 're going to fly it that day
that the parade is on.
MR. HARVEY: But we won 't fly it daily?
SUPERVISOR PELL: Day in and day out , no.
MR. HARVEY: Okay, thank you.
MR. CARLIN: Will I have a reply on those two requests by the next
Board meeting on the. picnic benches and light for the Knights of
Columbus? Will I have a reply on that?
SUPERVISOR PELL: That ' s two, what ' s the third one?
MR. CARLIN: On the waterT
SUPERVISOR PELL: I made notes on all three, yes.
MR. CARLIN: Okay, very good.
SUPERVISOR PELL: Anybody else wish to address the Town Board?
(No response. ) If not , I 'm going to call for a recess to
reconvene Mr. Occhiogrosso ' s wetland permit appeal.
Moved by Councilman Nickles, seconded by Supervisor Pell, it was
RESOLVED that a recess be called at this time, 8:50 P.M. , for
the purpose of reconvening the hearing on the wetland permit appeal
of Mr. Thomas Occhiogrosso.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman
Townsend, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman
Nickles, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
Regular Town Board meeting reconvened at 9:40 P.M.
Moved by Supervisor Pell, seconded by Councilman Murdock,
WHEREAS, Thomas Occhiogrosso has requested a hearing on a violation
of the Wetland Ordinance of the Town of Southold, and
WHEREAS, said hearing was held by the Southold Town Board at 3:00
P.M. , Tuesday, June 7, 1983, now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby sustains
Building Inspector Hindermann in his charge of a violation of the
conditions of Wetland Permit No. 27 issued on September 11, 1979.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman
Townsend, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman
Nickles, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
Moved by Supervisor Pell , seconded by Councilman Murdock, it was
RESOLVED that this Town Board meeting be adjourned at 9:41 P:M.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman
Townsend, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman
Nickles, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.