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Telephone 50 5-2660
APPEAL BOARD
MEMBERS
Robert W. Gillispie, Jr., Chairman
Robert Bergen
Herbert Rosenberg
Charles Gregonis,Jr.
Serge Dqyen, Jr.
M I N U T -E S
SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD OF APPEALS
July .13, 1961
A regular meeting of the Southold Town. Board of Appeals
was held 7:30 P.M. , Thursday, July 13, 1961 at the Town Clerk
Office, Main Road, Southold, New York.
There were present: , Messrs. Robert-W. Gillispie, Jr. ,
Chairman, . Robert .Bergen, Herbert Rosenberg, - and Charles Grigonis,
Jr.
Also present: Mr. Howard M. Terry, Building Inspector.
Absent: Mr. Serge Doyen, Jr.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 396 - 7:30 P.M. . (E.D.S.T. ) ,
upon application of Ernest- E. Belfi, 165 -Clearland Avenue,
Rockville Center, New York, for a variance in accordance with
the Zoning Ordinance,, Article III, . Section . 307, for permission
to reduce -side yard. Location of property: . south side 'Waters'
Edge 'Way, Lot No. 5 on Map of Terry -Waters, . Southold, 'New York.
Fee paid $15. 00.
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The Chairman opened the hearing by reading application for .a
variance, legal notice of hearing and affidavit attesting to its
publication in, th.e official newspaper.
THE 'CHAIRMAN: According to the application for a building
permit the original structure was located on the application sketch
approximately 80 ft. from Waters Edge Way and 11'2" from the west
side yard and, the new structure according to the sketch is approx-
imately 32 ft. by 32 ft. , is that correct?
MR_ ERNEST BELFI: It .is approximately. 32 ft. by 22 ft.
(Mr. Belfi described the sketch appearing on the back of the
building permit- application. )
THE CHAIRMAN: When these dimensions were finally related to
the plot size you have 11 ft. 2 in. to the west- and 11 ft. 3 in. to
the east?
MR. BELFI: That is correct. Originally the plot plan as given
to the builder and as filed with your building department, called
. for 15 ft. off the west line. ,After the entire structure was
completed it was only .11 ft.' 6 ' in. off the west line instead of the
15 ft. Had it been built as I had asked it would not have gone over
the line on the east side.
THE' CHAIRMAN Is there. anyone present who wishes to speak for
this application? -
MR. BELFI: I _do.
MR. ROSENBERG: When you filed your original plan there is
nothing on that original plan that , indicates any further extension
of the house at that time and therefore this is different than ,the
original plan?
MR_ BELFI: That is correct.
THE' CHAIRMAN: � Who filed this original plot plan?
MR. BELFI: Lido- Construction. However, this new addition
Lido had nothing to do with. I did it -myself.
THE CHAIRMAN: In order' to grant' a variance three conditions
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must be present. Strict application of the Ordinance would produce
undue hardship, the hardship must be unique and not shared by all
properties alike in theimmediate vicinity of the, property. You .'say
that this is the only house on the side of the road where all lots
are at least 210 ft. deep. . What. do you mean by that?
MR. BELFI: There are only seven lots on the bay side and six
of those have been sold. I am sure that if anyone objected to this
they would be present. The opposite side of the street is not
involved because no portion of the property on my side of the street
is available to them. There is a section set aside for 'the residents
not on the water front. Only my neighbors to the east and west are
afforded water front and neither of them have opposed my application.
THE' CHAIRMAN: The variance would observe the spirit of the
Ordinance and would not, change the character of the district. You
say that since no structures are erected the type of house to be
erected will enhance the neighborhood?
MR. BELFI: There is no other parcel in the entire development
.that has 100 ft. frontage. They are all less than that .as the map
will show.
MR. ROSENBERG: Mr. Belfi, you are familiar both with the
practical use and legal definition of unique. Is there any difference
between your lot and the other lots that makes yoursdifferent?
MR. BELFI: I would say so.
THE 'CHAIRMAN (producing the 'map o Terry. Waters) : As you can
see on the map all. .of the- lots .in Terry-Waters are 100 ft. frontage
or over. There are no undersized lots.
MR. BELFI: I mean depth.
THE CHAIRMAN: As I understand you poured a slab andthen erected
a structure on it?
MR. BELFI: Yes, . and we' did it within a day.
THE CHAIRMAN: And you neglected to obtain a building. permit
for- the structure?
MR. BELFI: Mr. Terry came down and said I would have to have
a building permit and I asked if I could fill it out then and He
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said he would bring me an application. Several weeks later Mr.
Terry gave me a notice to remedy violation and I came heretwo
weeks ago and made my application for a variance. I would like
to state that it would be a hardship for me to tear this structure
down or to relocate it.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone else present who wishes to speak
for this application?
(There was no response. )
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
against this application?
MISS AMELIA G. VASKELIS, .Rambler Road, Terry Watefs., Southold,
New York: _ I would. I am located at 3 Rambler Road. My only
objection is that Mr. Belfi is an attorney and to go ahead without
a building permit is not right. Before I even bought my property I
stopped in to see about all the rules and regulations. But to go
ahead on a- Saturday and pour concrete and to continue after he was
told not to by Mr. Terry, that is not right. We still have certain
codes and the zoning says that he must have a side yard of so many
feet and knoV/*-hat he would be short a certain amount he still went
ahead and built the room and garage. That is my objection.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone else present who wishes to
speak against this application?
(There was no response. )
THE CHAIRMAN: Are there any questions members of the Board
would like to ask?
MR. ROSENBERG: Mr. Belfi, you know that this is an area
variance you are seeking.
MR. BELFI: No, it is not. I thought it was an offset variance.
MR. . ROSENBERG: You are required to show practical difficulty
for an area variance. What is the unnecessary hardship in your
placing something in the wrong position?
MR. BELFI: Financially it will be a hardship revising it.
MR. ROSENBERG: Suppose you had come in b&fore you erected this
and requested a variance, do you think you would have been granted it?
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MR. BELFI: I feel with a parcel of 210 by 100 ft. a setback
of 25 ft. is an arbitrary amount of 'setback. I have gone 2 ft.
over both sides and it is hurting no one.
MR. ROSENBERG: What. is the unnecessary hardship that you
claim putting your house closer than 10 ft. and 15 ft. ?
MR. BELFI: It was not a deliberate gesture on my part to
get 2 ft.
MR. ROSENBERG: Is this a hardship cf your own contrivance,
would you say you created this hardship?
MR. BELFI: Definitely. I did it myself. Of my own volition
I did something that I should not have dcfte.
THE 'CHAIRMAN: It would seem to me that thisiniTique hardship
cannot be proven. The interpretation of the mean/of unique is
something that is peculiar to your lot. There is nothing unique
in the fact you misplaced the addition to your house. Financial
hardship cannot be claimed.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone else present who wishes to say
anything?
MR. BELFI: I do not see anyone here objecting to the structure.
The only objectionis as far as the law is concerned. First, the
Building Inspector cannot go on private property. Second, the
Board is not -constitutionally, in Suffolk .County, able to do anything
in this entire development because it does not give us police, fire
or any protection, except taxes. Third, I think one of your members
came on my property and he is a trespasser. I want all of those
things on the record and I intend to take this further. Also, I
want it shown that I think you are all arbitrary.
. (Mr. Belfi asked the Board if any of them were or are lawyers
and the members answered that .they are not. )
Findings of the Board: 'This applicant .received a Certificate
of :Occupancy for a' completed .residence April 3, 1961. .About- June
3, 1961 the applicant, . without obtaining a buildingpermit, began
construction of an addition approximately 32 ft. by 22 ft. The
building inspector informed Mr. Belfi that .a violation existed and
that - construction should cease,, as it appeared that the side yard
was also in violation. Nevertheless construction continued.
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The applicant is 'an attorney with 30 years experience and
now. seeks relief to escape the results of his own acts. ' It is
the opinion of this Board that no unusual hardship, practical
difficulty, or-.unique- situation has been shown by the applicant. .
The members of the Board are familiar with this property by
physical inspection. or personal knowledge; therefore
On motion of-Mr. _ Rosenberg, . seco nded by Mr. Bergen, . it was
RESOLVED that.Ernest.E. Belfi be denied .permission to reduce
side yard for the 'reasons shown .in the findings of the Board.
Vote -of the Board: Ayes:, Mr. Gillispie, . Mr. Bergen, Mr.
Rosenberg, and -Mr. Grigonis.
MR.. BERGEN: I will disqualify myself at this point because I
am interested in the next hearing.
.' PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 397 - 8: 00 P.M. . (E.D.S.T. ) , upon
application of-Robert- L. Bergen, Main _Road, Mattituck, New York,
fora special exception in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance,
. Article VIII., , Section 801-C, Subsection II (a) , for ,permission to
adjust the boundary line into the more restricted area. Location
of property: north side Route 25, . Mattituck, New.York, bounded
north by Railroad, east by Tidewater 'Real.ty, south by Main .Road,
and west by Herman Hubbard. Fee paid $15..00.
The' Chairman opened the hearing by reading application for a
special exception, legal notice of hearing and affidavit attesting
to its publication in the official newspaper.
THE CHAIRMAN: is there ,anyone present who wishes to speak
for this application?
MR. ROBERT BERGEN, Mattituck, New York; I do.
THE CHAIRMAN: Did you lose some land from the- State when
they went through there?
MR. BERGEN: No. Right at the edge of my property is where
they swung into Tidewater' Realty .Company.
THE'CHAIRMAN: The "B" Business boundary line between the
lot?
"A and' ".B" District bisects your
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MR. BERGEN: I believe 20 ft. is in the "B" District.
MR. ROSENBERG: According to the map 20 ft. is in the business
district and you wish to extend the boundary line 50 additional feet,
is that correct?
MR. BERGEN: That is right.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone else present who wishes to speak
for this application?
(There was no response. )
THE 'CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
against this application?
. (There was no response. )
MR. ROSENBERG; According to the provisions of the Ordinance,
you must have permanent open space fora rear and side yard of 1.0 ft.
plus one foot for each additional 10 ft. of extension of the boundary.
Therefore, you must leave 14 ft. between the new ' "B" line and the "A"
line.
THE 'CHAIRMAN: Is there anything else?
(There was no response. )
The Board finds that this lot was in single and separate
ownership at the time of the effective date of the Ordinance and
the total- area is identical at this time.
This lot adjoins business property now used by the applicant
and the new use will be an extension. of the existing use.
The Board finds that the public convenience and welfare and
justice will be served and the legally established or permitted
use of neighborhood property and adjoining use districts will not
be permanently or . substantially .injured and the spirit of the
Ordinance will be observed, therefore
On motion of Mr. Rosenberg, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it was
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- .RESOLVED .that the: "B" Business District -boundary line be
-extended 50 feet westerly into the property of-Robert --L. Bergen,
north side Main - (State) ; Road, . Mattituck, .New York.
The applicant shall observe the Ordinance requirement .which
specifies a permanent side: yard of 14 ft.. and a permanent rear
yard .of 14 ft. must be maintained.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Gillspie, Mr. Rosenberg, . and
Mr. Grigonis.
Mr. Joseph Ulrich appeared before the Board ofAppeals ,for an
informal discussion. .. Mr. Ulrich stated that he wishes to place a
directional sign on the property of Steve Doroski, south side Route
27A, west of :Bowery Lane, - Southold to direct the public to his marina
. at -the foot of Bowery Lane, on -Main Roa d, . Southold. Mr. Ulrich filed
an .application for :a .spe c ial exception.with. the Board.
On motion -of'Mrr...Rosenberg, seconded by Mr. Bergen, the Board
of :Appeals set' 7:30 P.M. (E_D.S.T. ) , Thursday, July 27, 1961,
Town .Clerk'. Office, . Main Road, Southold, New York, astime and place
for hearing upon application of. Joseph'-P. Ulrich, . Main .Road, . Southold,
New York, fora special exception in accordance with the Zoning
Ordinance; . Art.icle III, . Section 300, . Subsection 11, for permission
- to erect' `and. maintain directional .sign on the property of:Steve
Doroski, .;Route 2'7A, .west of Bowery -Lane, Southold, New York.
Vote of the Board:.. Ayes:-, Mr. Gillispie, .Mr. Bergen, . Mr.
Rosenberg, . and Mr. Grigonis.
on motion of Mr. 'Bergen, . seconded' by Mr. Grigonis, the Board
of 'Appeals set 8: 00 P.M. (E.D.S.T. ) , Thursday, July 27, 1961, Town
C lerk: Office, . Main Road, . Southold, , New York, as time and 'place for
hearing upon application of:Constantine King, 69 Further:Lane,
Riverhead, New York, for. a special ,exception' in accordance with .the
Zoning Ordinance, Article IV, Section 400, . Subdivision, 7, for
permiss.ion .to operate a place of amusement. Location of property:
east side Moore' s Lane, Greenport, New York, bounded north by
Village of Greenport .property, east by Herzog Estate and Sledjeski, .
south by H. L. Kalin and'.L. . C. ..Kalin and Albert -Herzog, Jr. , and
west by`Mooreb 'Lane.
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Vote 'of the Board:'' - Ayes':- Mr.. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen, . Mr.
Rosenberg',-and Mr. Grigonis.
It was ' further 'RESOLVED that . legal - notice of 'hearing 'be pub-
lished in the official newspaper on July 21, 1961.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr.. Gillispie, , Mr. Bergen, ;Mr.
Rosenberg, aid Mr. Grigonis.
The minutes of the meeting of.'July 6, 1961, on motion of-Mr.
Rosenberg,- seconded by Mr.. Bergen,, were approved as submitted.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:" -Mr. Gillispie, ..Mr. Bergen, Mr.
Rosenberg, and Mr. Grigonis:
The next meeting of the' Southold Town' B oard of:Appeals will be
held 7:30 P.M. , Thursday, July 20, 1961 at the Town O lerk Office,
- Main- Road,'. 'Southold; New" York.
The following resolution was offered by Mr. Rosenberg, and
seconded by. Mr. Bergen:
Inasmuch as Article VIII, . Section 802 requires that the' Board
of Appeals shall make rules as to the manner of filing appeals ' or
applications for special exceptions or variances and the Town . Law
267-1 requires that- rules and regulations be established by the
Board of.:Appeals, now therefore be it
-RESOLVED that effective immediately all communications, appli-
cations or: appeals directed to the Board of:Appeals will be handled
by its office in accordance with the rules of the Board. of Appeals:
This will include provisional fees, receipts, bills, vouchers, etc.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:-- Mr. Gillispie, - Mr. Bergen, . Mr.
Rosenberg, . and Mr. Grigonis.
The following resolution was offered by Mr. Bergen, , and
seconded by. Mr. Grigonis:
Effective Immediately .-- Directional sign procedure contained
in the minutes of :April 21, 1961 is amended to read "'Maximum size
4 feet high by six feet wide, superficial area not to exceed 24' square
`feet outside dimensions. "
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This sign is subject to the same conditions that affect mn
conforming signs. ..
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen, , Mr.
Rosenberg, and Mr. Grigonis:
. Meeting adjourned at . 10:15 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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Judith T. Boken
• Secretary
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