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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPB-05/13/2002 PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS oO,SUFFO(,I►�OG P.O. Box 1179 BENNETT ORLOWSKI,JR. �` Chairman :�t Town Hall, 53095 State Route 25 y Z Southold, New York 11971-0959 RICHARD CAGGIANO Telephone (631) 765-1938 WILLIAM J.CREMERS �?�it, Fax(631) 765-3136 KENNETH L.EDWARDS MARTIN SIDOR PLANNING BOARD OFFICE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD MINUTES May 13, 2002 6:00 p.m. Present Were: Bennett Orlowski, Jr., Chairman Richard Caggiano, Member William J. Cremers, Member Kenneth L. Edwards, Member George Ritchie Latham Jr. Mark Terry, Sr. Environmental Planner Scott Hughes, Sr. Environmental Planner Victor L'Eplattenier, Senior Planner Carol Kalin, Secretary SETTING OF THE NEXT PLANNING BOARD MEETING Chairman Orlowski: Good evening. I would like to call this meeting to order. Board to set Monday, June 10, 2002 at 6:00 p.m. at the Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, as the time and place for the next regular Planning Board Meeting. Mr. Cremers: So moved. Mr. Latham: Second. Chairman Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. All those in favor? Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Caggiano, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Latham. Chairman Orlowski: Opposed? The motion carries. ******************** PUBLIC. HEARINGS Chairman Orlowski: 6:00 p.m.: Raymond J. Akscin - This proposed minor subdivision is for 4 lots on 9.77 acres located on the north side of Main Bayview Road in Southold. SCTM#1000-88-2-17 Southold Town PlanningBoard oard Page Two May 13, 2002 Would anyone here like to make a comment on this minor subdivision? Kevin McLaughlin, Esq.: My name is Kevin McLaughlin. I am here on behalf of the applicant. I have filed my notice of posting and mailing. I believe we have complied with all the requirements of the Board and we are here to answer any questions that anybody might have regarding this application. Chairman Orlowski: O.K. Any other comments? Hearing none, any comments from the Board? No comments from the Board, I will entertain a motion to close the hearing. Mr. Edwards: So move. Mr. Cremers: Second. Chairman Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Caggiano, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Latham. Chairman Orlowski: Opposed? The motion carries. What is the pleasure of the Board? Mr. Cremers: Mr. Chairman, I'll offer the following: WHEREAS, Raymond J. Akscin is the owner of the property known and designated as SCTM#1000-88-2-17 on Bayview Road, Southold; and WHEREAS, the applicant proposes to subdivide a 9.77 acre parcel into 4 lots where Lot 1 is equal to 3.32 acres; Lot 2 is equal to 2.16 acres; Lot 3 is equal to 2.07 acres and Lot 4 is equal to 2.22 acres; and WHEREAS, on December 19,1999 the Planning Board granted conditional sketch plan approval on the map, dated November 27, 1999; and WHEREAS, the applicant has met all the conditions outlined in the sketch plan approval; and WHEREAS, the Suffolk County Water Authority issued a letter of water availability for lots 1, 2, 3, and 4; and WHEREAS, the Planning Board, pursuant to the State Environmental Quality Review Act, (Article 8), Part 617, performed a review of this unlisted action, made a determination of non-significance and granted a Negative Declaration on January 24, 2000; be it therefore 1 G�( Southold Town Planning Board Page Three May 13, 2002 RESOLVED, to adopt the revised Bond Estimate in the amount of$35,200.00, dated March 29, 2002, as determined by the Town Engineer, and recommend the same to the Town Board Mr. Edwards: Second the motion. Chairman Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Caggiano, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Latham. Chairman Orlowski: Opposed? The motion carries. Mr. Cremers: In addition — BE IT RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board grant conditional final approval on the maps, dated June 13, 2001, and the Road and Drainage Plan, dated March 4, 2002, subject to the following conditions. These conditions must be met within six (6) months of the resolution: 1. The submittal of the $15,000.00 Park & Playground fee ($5,000.00 for each unimproved lot) to the Planning Board Office. 2. The filing of the Declaration of Covenants and Restrictions with the Suffolk County Clerk's Office and upon filing, recording the Liber and Page number upon the final subdivision map. 3. The submittal of a performance bond in the amount of$35,200.00 and an administration fee of$2,112.00 as determined by the Town Engineer on March 29, 2002. Mr. Edwards: Second the motion. Chairman Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Caggiano, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Latham. Chairman Orlowski: Opposed? The motion carries. ********** Chairman Orlowski: 6:05 p.m.: St. Peter's Lutheran Church - This proposed site plan is for a 3,945 sq. ft. addition to an existing church to construct a fellowship hall, a church office and an unenclosed porch. The property is located at 71305 Main Road in Greenport. SCTM#1000-45-2-7.1 I will ask if there are any comments on this proposed site plan? C�- Southold Town Planning Board Page Four May 13, 2002 Diane Herold: Yes. Good evening. I am Diane Herold. I am the architect for the project. I am here for conditional approval, pending Board of Health approval, and I am here to answer any questions you may have. I have posted the property and sent out the notices and have supplied the verified receipts back to the office. Chairman Orlowski: Good. Any other comments or questions on this proposed site plan? Hearing none, any comments or questions from the Board? Hearing none, I will entertain a motion to close the hearing. Mr. Latham: So move. Mr. Cremers: Second. Chairman Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Caggiano, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Latham. Chairman Orlowski: Opposed? The motion carries. Does the Board have any pleasure? Mr. Caggiano: Mr. Chairman, I'll offer the following: WHEREAS, this proposed site plan, to be known as site plan for St. Peter's Lutheran Church, is to construct a 3,945 sq. ft. addition to an existing church on a 4.3 acre parcel on SR 25 in Greenport; and WHEREAS, St. Peter's Lutheran Church is the owner of the property known and designated as St. Peter's Lutheran Church, SR 25, Greenport, SCTM#1 000-45-2-7.1; and WHEREAS, a formal application for the approval of this site plan was submitted on February 14, 2002; and WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to the State Environmental Quality Review Act, (Article 8), Part 617, declared itself lead agency and issued a Negative Declaration on April 8, 2002; and WHEREAS, the Zoning Board of Appeals granted a Special Exception for an expansion to an existing place of worship in a Limited Business Zone on November 15, 2001; and WHEREAS, this site plan, dated January 15, 2002, was certified by the Building Inspector on March 30, 2002; and WHEREAS, the Town Engineer has reviewed the drainage calculations and the Planning Board has accepted his recommendation for approval; and Southold Town Planning Board Page Five May 13, 2002 WHEREAS, on March 28, 2002, the Architectural Review Committee reviewed and approved the proposed site plan application; and WHEREAS, the applicant hereby agrees and understands that if the site plan which receives stamped Health Department approval differs in any way from the proposed conditional site plan on which the Planning Board held a public hearing and voted on, then the Planning Board has the right and option, if the change is material to any of the issues properly before the Planning Board, to hold a public hearing on this "revised" site plan application and review its conditional approval; and WHEREAS, on January 28, 2002, the applicant signed a statement agreeing not to object to a new public hearing and Planning Board review of the revised application; and WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to Chapter 58, Notice of Public Hearing, has received affidavits that the applicant has complied with the notification provisions; and WHEREAS, all the requirements of the Site Plan Regulations of the Town of Southold have been met; be it therefore RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board grant conditional final approval on the surveys, dated January 15, 2002, and last revised on May 3, 2002, subject to fulfillment of the following condition. This condition must be met within six (6) months of the resolution: 1. Review by the Suffolk County Department of Health Services. Mr. Cremers: Second the motion. Chairman Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Caggiano, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Latham. Chairman Orlowski: Opposed? The motion carries. ********** Chairman Orlowski: 6:10 p.m.: First Baptist Church of Cutchogue - This proposed site plan is for a new 9,630 sq. ft. church on 3.68 acres. The property is located on CR 48, 750' west of Alvah's Lane in Cutchogue. SCTM#1000-101-1-14.5 1 will ask if there are any questions on this proposed site plan? Southold Town Planning Board Page Six May 13, 2002 r Diane Herold: I am the architect for this project as well. I have notified all of the neighbors and have posted the property and am here to answer any questions you might have. Chairman Orlowski: Any other questions or comments on this proposed site plan? Hearing none, any questions or comments from the Board? Hearing none, I will entertain a motion to close the hearing. Mr. Edwards: So move. Mr. Cremers: Second. Chairman Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Caggiano, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Latham. Chairman Orlowski: Opposed? The motion carries. What is the pleasure of the Board on this? Mr. Latham: I'll offer this resolution, Mr. Chairman: WHEREAS, this proposed site plan, to be known as site plan for the First Baptist Church of Cutchogue, is to construct a new 9,630 sq. ft. church on 3.68 acres on CR 48; and WHEREAS, the First Baptist Church of Cutchogue is the owner of the property known and designated as the First Baptist Church of Cutchogue, CR 48, Cutchogue, SCTM#1000-101-1-14.5; and WHEREAS, a formal application for the approval of this site plan was submitted on February 14, 2002; and WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to the State Environmental Quality Review Act, (Article 8), Part 617, declared itself lead agency and issued a Negative Declaration on April 8, 2002; and WHEREAS, the Zoning Board of Appeals granted a Special Exception to establish a church in an A-C Zone on November 15, 2001; and WHEREAS, this site plan, dated January 15, 2002, was certified by the Building Inspector on March 30, 2002; and WHEREAS, the Town Engineer has reviewed the drainage calculations and the Planning Board has accepted his recommendation for approval; and Southold Town Planning Board Page Seven May 13, 2002 WHEREAS, on March 28, 2002, the Architectural Review Committee reviewed and approved the proposed site plan application; and WHEREAS, the applicant hereby agrees and understands that if the site plan which receives stamped Health Department approval differs in any way from the proposed conditional site plan on which the Planning Board held a public hearing and voted on, then the Planning Board has the right and option, if the change is material to any of the issues properly before the Planning Board, to hold a public hearing on this "revised" site plan application and review its conditional approval; and WHEREAS, on January 28, 2002, the applicant signed a statement agreeing not to object to a new public hearing and Planning Board review of the revised application; and WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to Chapter 58, Notice of Public Hearing, has received affidavits that the applicant has complied with the notification provisions; and WHEREAS, all the requirements of the Site Plan Regulations of the Town of Southold have been met; be it therefore RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board grant conditional final approval on the surveys, dated January 15, 2002, and last revised on May 3, 2002, subject to fulfillment of the following condition. This condition must be met within six (6) months of the resolution: 1. Review by the Suffolk County Department of Health Services. Mr. Cremers: Second the motion. Chairman Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Caggiano, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Latham. Chairman Orlowski: Opposed? The motion carries. Chairman Orlowski: 6:15 p.m.: Grace's Place - This proposed site plan is to construct a 7,000 sq. ft. nursery school facility on a 4.6 acre parcel. The property is located on CR 48 in Peconic. SCTM#1000-74-4-4.7 & 4.8 1 will ask if anyone has any comments or questions on this. This hearing will be held open because there are some items still missing. Frank Murphy: Benny, could I address the Board on that? Southold Town Planning Board Page Eight May 13, 2002 Chairman Orlowski: Yes. Frank Murphy: I am working to help coordinate for Grace's Place to try to get site plan approval. I would like to thank the Planning Board and, in particular its staff, for their assistance in moving this along. We had a Suffolk County Health Department site plan and it is on the wrong size paper and so it has been redrawn. Suffolk County Health Department could not re-stamp it today. They did not have enough time to check all six copies and it should be done no later than tomorrow. We are in a very tight time frame and the reason is because this is being funded by the Department of Agriculture and their patience is running out. They need a building permit or they are liable to lose the funding on a very important project. It is going to employ approximately thirty people in the Town. It is going to provide daycare for approximately seventy-five young children which is desperately needed here and many beneficial effects. If we do have the Health Department Permit, there was also a question on the site plan. They encroached in the buffer zone about two feet and the Town Engineer approved all the drainage and just asked that it be moved south about five feet which it has been on the plan which, in effect, is almost a mute question because the Town now is going to acquire the twelve acres next to this and so this whole road is going to be eliminated anyway and a new curb cut is going to have to be put in to the property. So, I would ask that you do approve the site plan subject to the review and the final submission of the acceptable size plan for this. Any questions, I would be happy to answer. It was not the applicant's fault. Joe Baier, former Health Department Commissioner, did this and he was not aware of the size of the plan, but it is completely finished now. Chairman Orlowski: Yes, well, it has never been this Board's policy to approve a map without the correct map in front of us and we are just going to have to hold it open. Anything else? Mr. Murphy: No. Chairman Orlowski: Any other comments or questions on Grace's Place? Gary Rempel: Good evening. My name is Gary Rempel. When there is a public hearing, as in Grace's Place, I believe that certain local laws must be followed - one of these being a written notice via certified letter be sent to the properties basically within two hundred feet of the outside boundaries. I live directly across the street from the proposed project and I received nothing. I feel that Grace's Place has not fulfilled their legal requirements and this public hearing actually should be held in abeyance until all the requirements have been met. Chairman Orlowski: I am not sure about that two hundred feet. I thought it was adjoining properties but we can talk with the Town Attorney and figure that one out. Gary Rempel: It is Chapter Fifty-Eight. �7 Southold Town Planning Board Page Nine May 13, 2002 Frank Murphy: Benny, can I comment? I did send them all out and one was sent and we have a receipt from the Post Office. I don't know what happened to it. Gary Rempel: I know it says I am supposed to get one, you know, no matter what the situation is, I am supposed to get one. Chairman Orlowski: O.K. We can check that easy enough. Any other comments? Gary Rempel: What is your opinion on it? Chairman Orlowski: I don't know. I will have to find that answer out. Like I said, this hearing is going to be held open. Gary Rempel: No. That's all for now. John Skabry: My name is John Skabry. I live in Peconic on Henry's Lane and, first of all, I would like to thank the Board for serving and, especially, Chairman Benny Orlowski. The ...(tape disturbance) on Henry's Lane. I have live there thirty-two years and I have never had a harder time than the past two years getting out on the road. There are occasions when we have to make a right turn on 48 to go left on 48. The gas station causes a lot of accidents - cars coming and going from the gas station. That thing is marked incorrectly. If Mr. Murphy's - past Supervisor Murphy's - statistics are correct, 75 kids and 30 employees breaks down to like 210 cars every day coming and going. 75 drop-offs and 75 pick-ups. 30 employees coming and 30 employees going. That road cannot take it. It's a 65 mile an hour road. That's the way it was constructed. It is being used as a 65 mile an hour road, not 55 as it is supposed to. That area cannot take 210 cars coming and going from it. People are going to be killed on the road. The soil itself is Bridgehampton loam. I have lived there for thirty-two years. It is some of the finest agricultural soil that we have in the United States. It is also irrigated. There is deep well irrigation there. It is my personal opinion that that land should never be developed. It should be constantly agricultural. Aside from that, my personal opinions are that daycare is up to the family and not up to the Government. Peconic is already burdened with many, many municipal buildings. You know them as well as I do. I am opposed to Grace's Place where it is located and I thank you very much for giving me this opportunity to speak to you. Chairman Orlowski: Any other comments? Margaret Skabry: My name is Margaret Skabry, his wife, and a few more things that I would like to get cleared up. I just found out about this meeting from a letter that came to my mailbox which was quite a surprise to me because I really don't bother reading the legals anymore because there is no more airport being threatened, but I do have some questions. I want to know how the property is zoned right now and is it part of the Green Belt? Chairman Orlowski: The zoning is that the use is an allowed use and he has met all the conditions. He got a Special Exception from the Zoning Board of Appeals to have that Southold Town Planning Board Page Ten May 13, 2002 use. We have to look at it as conforming. I am not exactly sure what the zoning is. A-C - Agricultural Conservation - two acres and they went to the Zoning Board of Appeals and got the Special Exception. Margaret Skabry: It is just fine because they went and did this. O.K. Not really but - Chairman Orlowski: I did not say that but the Zoning Board Appeals said that. Margaret Skabry: Who owns that land right now? Chairman Orlowski: Who owns it? The person that owns it? I am not sure. Aliano, I think. Frank Murphy: Grace's Place owns five acres. Margaret Skabry: And who proposed this plan to begin with? Chairman Orlowski: Who proposed it? Grace's Place. Margaret Skabry: Who is Grace's Place? Is it a corporation? Is it a philanthropist? What is it? Chairman Orlowski: I can't tell you. It is an organization that does this. Margaret Skabry: What does it do - like who would go to this daycare? Chairman Orlowski: I don't know. Well, those are questions that we really can't ask. I mean, you know- Margaret Skabry: But, if I had to ask them, right, and you are going to vote on what you are doing on that, would we get to ask you after it is a done deal? I mean, I am not angry with you people either. I know you are up here because you care about the Town. I do, too, especially our little place -what is left of it. O.K. So, we don't know any of that. We don't know - has the proposal even been turned down by any other Town? We don't know that either, do we? Unidentified Person in Audience: It was turned down by Riverhead - Doctor's Path. It is also funded by New York State — Grace's Place. Chairman Orlowski: You have to address the Board. Anybody that talks, we would like you to give your name for the record, but I don't want this to be a debate. You can have your chance. Margaret Skabry: So, it has been turned down by somebody else who, evidently, did not think it was a really terrific idea for their area. Does Southold have its own Town- sponsored daycare center, right now, for its local residents? Southold Town Planning Board Page Eleven May 13, 2002 Chairman Orlowski: I'm not familiar with it. Ms. Skabry: Why are we building this? Why are we getting approval for this? O.K. — location. Terrific location for a bunch of kids in front of a railroad track, in back of a highway. Perfect. I am sure, Benny, you would have stuck your kids out there to play anytime on their little quads and stuff. All of us -that is not where you want your kids to be; that is not where they belong. And what my husband said about the traffic - if you don't live there, you don't believe it. If you live in Orient, you believe it. If you live in Peconic, three houses from the highway, you believe it. If you try to get out and have to go right, you believe it. If you come out of the gas station and try to go west from the east exit and cause accidents and rollover all the time - every summer. You can check the police records. It is not really a safe place so I think there are plenty of reasons that it probably shouldn't have got here. But hear the reasons I am asking you to maybe not pass it. This is a little overview of what Peconic is now, thirty-two years after we came here. Peconic has a gas station that serves all the people in the Town and all the visitors to the Town. It has a Water Authority building which is not exactly a legacy to architecture but it is there and it serves the people of the Town. The water comes from the Peconic area and goes throughout the Town. That's what Peconic has done. It is a tiny, little place. O.K. We also have the Post Office and a laundermat for many summer people and everybody else. We have Jean Cochran Park with the hockey rink and all for the kids. I think we've done a lot for the Town in that respect, too. None of us voted it down; none of us came before you and said no. Then, we have Tasker Park. I think that is a pretty good thing for the Town. It is a good thing for the youth, the youth of this Town. Not the youth of some other town that would be brought in here because the government says somebody has to do it so, you're going to do it so we are going to give you the money to pay somebody to buy land for you. Peconic Lane Elementary School is still there. Who knows. It may be re-used again. It has been an elementary school for years. I am sure when it was built, somebody that lived nextdoor was not too thrilled but it was built and it was for the kids of your Town. Then we had the beautiful senior/youth center and recreation center in Peconic. It is, again, not an attractive piece of architecture but it is functional for the Town. Again, in the little hamlet of Peconic. Then, you have the Highway Department. I make no comments. These guys work really hard but it is there to serve the entire town, not just us. Then, we have the animal shelter soon to be improved and more attractive, I am sure, and no comment whether it should be there or not. It is there. We do that, again, for the Town. Then, we have the Police Station. God knows they are there for the whole Town. O.K. That's Peconic. Now you are asking us to go ahead and say ...(tape disturbance) to one more thing that we don't need and it's not for the people of our Town and we will just be happy with it because there are not many of us here and I am not going to say that to you. I am going to say to you: go back, find out who turned it down, why they turned it down, who is for it and why our kids don't have it already- the people who pay taxes in the Town already. We have daycare for our seniors. If we are going to have daycare for our children, it is going to be for our own kids. And I am very sorry for these other kids but the Government will work something else out some place else. Call it mean of me, if you want to. I am just really hoping that you turn it down when it finally does come up for a final vote. Thank you. 70 Southold Town Planning Board Page Twelve May 13, 2002 Chairman Orlowski: O.K. Any other comments? Gary Rempel: I know you had asked some questions about the history of Grace's Place so maybe, hopefully, I can fill in some of the blanks. If you ever have the opportunity to peruse through the Riverhead Town Board minutes, you will find out that Grace's Place had its birth in Riverhead by Doctor's Path. It was turned down by the Board. You might ask why was Riverhead chosen? Well, a survey was performed by Grace's Place - ABCD - the survey found that the majority of the families would be from Riverhead. Ironically, the survey only found that one family would be from Southold. Now, at the last meeting when they were proposing this whole project, basically, they said that Peconic was a good location. Their own survey said that Riverhead was a good location. And you might ask what she was asking - this thing is going to be built. Who is it going to service? It is only going to service a select group. It is only going to service farm workers. A million dollar project. You ask where are these children from? Well, they can come up to an hour—two-hour round trip to get to this place in Peconic on busses - young children. It would be like taking your kids - your children -from Southold and sending them to Medford, Farmingdale or perhaps even Lake Ronkonkoma. There are families right here that work in other industries - low paying jobs such as retail, restaurants - but they will not be allowed to use this nursery service but a child from one hour away will be allowed to come into your community and use this service. Imagine that. I don't know. Does Southold want to deal with something like this? Segregation? don't know. When you come into Town, there is a sign that says they foster diversity and antibias. Is this in concert with your ideology? I don't know. You were asking more about the nursery school. Well, this nursery school, originally, when it we came to, oh, about a year ago, the meeting in Southold, basically, it said the operation would be from eight to four p.m. This is what we were told. This would be the impact - eight to four p.m. Well now, if you go back and you read the minutes to the same proposal of this plan in the Riverhead Town Meeting, the Director, which I believe is Maggie Evans, basically states that she is looking to open up and expand it at evening hours. So, you know, I find that troubling. Will there be parties? Will there be loud music? Where is it? Is it an eight to four operation or is it going to be something different? You know, you've got to have credibility when you are trying to introduce something. And, also, it has to serve the community. It is not serving the community so neither thing has been satisfied. I hope that answers some of your questions. Thank you. Chairman Orlowski: O.K. Any other comments? John Skabry: I hate to be a jack-in-the-box. John Skabry from Peconic. I don't believe that the -we came down here tonight for a final approval to make comments about it and I don't believe that they don't have their papers. If their papers are not in order, then I think it should be turned down - not postponed for another final approval and more paper submitted. Chairman Orlowski: It has not been our policy. We have to hold the hearing open. Any other comments or questions on this? Southold Town Planning Board Page Thirteen May 13, 2002 Betty Constantine: My name is Betty Constantine and I just want to say that I am very opposed to this. Not that I don't think it is a very good idea for children that are unfortunate but I don't feel that it's serving them. I think that they need more of a central location and if New York State is going provide for them, they should provide it in an area that is more accessible. I can't - I mean, I look at these children - seventy-five children - where are they going to have their medical treatment? We don't have medical facilities out here for them. I don't feel that it is right to have it in our community. Lori Kalinke: My name is Lori Kalinke. I am also a neighbor to the site and I just want to say that I did not know anything about this at all until we got this letter a few days ago and I just want to say that I oppose it because, myself as a parent, have had a very hard time finding child care out here and I don't feel it is the right thing to do to have it open for these type people and not for everyone. Not that I would have my child go to this facility but at least offer it to everyone in this area. I commute an hour and a half every day to Stony Brook. My children have to find alternative child care up west - not out here because I am not able to find it out here and I just feel that this is not a good thing and not good area and also our property value - what is it going to do to our values of our properties - having something like this? These people migrate and they hang out and they know there have been problems up west. So, I just wanted to say that I just don't feel it is a good thing and I'm opposed to it. Thank you. Chairman Orlowski: Any other comments? Hearing none, I would like to entertain a motion to hold this open. Mr. Murphy, the local people can't use this facility? Frank Murphy: I don't think you would have to look very far in Southold Town to find out who is doing the work in the nurseries, in the greenhouses, in the restaurants - where ever-who is doing the work. This is going to be for children of farm workers which would include all of those people. It is needed and there are quite a few people around here and quite a few little children right in this area who would be eligible and who would be using it. It is not going to be coming from down west. We would not be able to exist out here in this market if it was not for these people doing their work and there is a real serious need for them and it is not going to increase traffic any great amount. It is the best road possible in the Town for this to be coming. The children are going to be bussed in three or four busses; they are not coming individually. O.K. Any other questions on it? Chairman Orlowski: You answered my question by saying no, that local people can't use this facility. Is that what you are said? Frank Murphy: They can. Chairman Orlowski: They can. Mr. Murphy: Local people. Chairman Orlowski: O.K. I am going to entertain a motion to hold this hearing open. We can all come back. 17;L Southold Town Planning Board Page Fourteen May 13, 2002 John Skabry: I don't think that your question was answered and I would like to make one more question if I can then. Chairman Orlowski: This is not a debate. You can ask the Board a question. John Skabry: I would like to ask - can I make a question about the bussing, the comment that was made to you about the bussing? This is the first time I heard about bussing and the farm workers children and that's the first time that I heard about it. Do you know what you are voting on? Do you know what you would be voting on tonight as far as the bussing and the farm children? Chairman Orlowski: I assume there is going to be bussing. Just to let you know, we have to look at as an approved use of the site and we are going to hold the hearing open and find out about certain questions that were asked tonight and review it. So, we will be back here again next month. O.K.? Mr. Edwards: Second the motion. Chairman Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Caggiano, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Latham. Chairman Orlowski: Opposed? The motion carries. ********** Chairman Orlowski: 6:20 p.m.: Bedell Cellars - This proposed site plan is for a 4,669 sq. ft. addition to an existing winery with terraces & parking areas. The property is located at 36225 Main Road in Cutchogue. SCTM#1000-85-2-10.2 & 10.3 and 97-1- 25.1 Are there any comments or questions on this proposed site plan? Hearing none, are there any comments or questions from the Board? Hearing none, I'll entertain a motion to close the hearing. Mr. Latham: So move. Mr. Edwards: Second. Chairman Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Caggiano, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Latham. Chairman Orlowski: Opposed? The motion carries. (The hearing was closed at 6:40 P.M.) 7� Southold Town Planning Board Page Fifteen May 13, 2002 What is the pleasure of the Board? Mr. Cremers: Mr. Chairman, I'll offer the following: WHEREAS, Michael Lynn is the owner of the property known and designated as Bedell Cellars, located at 36225 Main Road in Cutchogue; and WHEREAS, this site plan for Bedell Cellars is for a 4,669 sq. ft. addition to an existing winery; and WHEREAS, this site plan was certified by the Building Department on May 9, 2002; and WHEREAS, the Town Engineer has reviewed the drainage calculations and the Planning Board has accepted his recommendation for approval; and WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to the State Environmental Quality Review Act, (Article 8), Part 617, declared itself lead agency and issued a Negative Declaration on January 14, 2002; and WHEREAS, a final public hearing was closed on said application at Town Hall, Southold, New York on May 13, 2002; and WHEREAS, all the requirements of the Site Plan Regulations of the Town of Southold have been met; be it therefore RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board grant final approval on the surveys, dated October 31, 2001, and authorize the Chairman to endorse the final surveys subject to a one year review from date of building permit. Mr. Edwards: Second the motion. Chairman Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Caggiano, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Latham. Chairman Orlowski: Opposed? The motion carries. ********** Chairman Orlowski: 6:25 p.m.: Ann Marie Goerler Revocable Living Trust - This proposal is for both a set-off and a lot line change. The proposed set-off is to set off an 80,000 square foot parcel from an approximately 38.7 acre parcel on which the development rights have been purchased by the Town of Southold on 36.39501 acres. The proposed lot line change is to subtract 21,597 square feet from the 38.7 acre parcel and to add it to an adjacent 1.641 acre parcel. The parcels are located on the southwest corner of Cox's Lane & the LIRR Property in Cutchogue. SCTM#1000-96-3-3.1 & 4.1 Southold Town Planning Board Page Sixteen May 13, 2002 I'll ask if there are any comments or questions on this proposed set-off? (There were none.) We do have some items that are missing in this application. We talked to the applicant and we're going to hold this hearing open until they come in. I'll entertain a motion to hold this hearing open. Mr. Latham: So move. Mr. Cremers: Second. Chairman Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Caggiano, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Latham. Chairman Orlowski: Opposed? The motion carries. Hearings Held Over From Previous Meetings: Chairman Orlowski: Robert Schreiber- This minor subdivision is for 4 lots on 47.4 acres. Development Rights will be sold on 32.27 acres. The property is located on the north side of Oregon Road, west of Alvah's Lane in Mattituck. SCTM#1000-95-1-4 The applicant is still missing some items. I will entertain a motion to keep this hearing open. If anybody would like to make any comments on this minor subdivision, they can do so while it is open, otherwise I'll entertain a motion to hold the hearing open. Mr. Edwards: So move. Mr. Cremers: Second. Chairman Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Caggiano, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Latham. Chairman Orlowski: Opposed? The motion carries. ********** Chairman Orlowski: Nextel Communications - This proposed site plan amendment is to affix a new wireless antenna to an existing monopole and install a related equipment shelter on 1.05 acres of property located on the north side of CR 48, 750' west of Cox's Lane in Cutchogue. SCTM#1000-96-1-19.1 Southold Town Planning Board Page Seventeen May 13, 2002 We do not have all of the information that we've asked for and the applicant is still waiting to receive that and so is this Board. I'll entertain a motion to keep this hearing open unless anybody would like to make a comment. Hearing none, I have a motion on the floor. Mr. Cremers: Second. Chairman Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Caggiano, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Latham. Chairman Orlowski: Opposed? The motion carries. ********** Chairman Orlowski: Riverhead Building Supply Corp. - This proposed site plan is to demolish existing buildings & construct a 14,100 sq. ft. retail/warehouse & one 23,660 sq. ft. warehouse & a 5,000 sq. ft. warehouse. The property is located on the south side of NYS Rt. 25, 557' west of 9th St. in Greenport. SCTM#1 000-46-1-1 & 2.1 This, too, is still missing some information. I'll entertain anybody who would like to speak. Patricia Moore, Esg.: Just to give you an up-date - the Zoning Board is hearing this matter this Thursday. Thank you for your comments ...(inaudible). Chairman Orlowski: Any other comments while this hearing is open? (There were none.) I'll entertain a motion to hold this hearing open. Mr. Latham: So move. Mr. Cremers: Second. Chairman Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Caggiano, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Latham. Chairman Orlowski: Opposed? The motion carries. ********** Chairman Orlowski: Island Health Project, Inc. - This proposed lot line change is to merge a 10,890 sq. ft. parcel, SCTM#1000-9-2-6.2, with a 12,565 sq. ft. parcel, SCTM#1000-9-2-8, creating a 23,455 sq. ft. parcel. The properties are located at the north corner of Oriental Avenue and Crescent Avenue on Fishers Island. q(� Southold Town Planning Board Page Eighteen May 13, 2002 This, too, is being held open for, it's been so long, I'm not sure what. If anybody would like to make any comments, they may. If not, I'll entertain a motion to hold this hearing open. Mr. Latham: So move. Mr. Cremers: Second. Chairman Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Caggiano, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Latham. Mr. Edwards: I abstain for reasons previously stated. Chairman Orlowski: Opposed? The motion carries. ******************** MAJOR AND MINOR SUBDIVISIONS, LOT LINE CHANGES AND SET OFF APPLICATIONS Final Extensions: Chairman Orlowski: Goehringer/McGunnigle -This proposed lot line change is to subtract 0.46 acres from a 28.53 acre parcel and to add it to a 0.69 acre parcel. The 28.53 acre parcel is located on the northeast corner of Bay View Avenue & Cox Neck Road. The 0.69 acre parcel is located on the north side of Bay View Avenue in Mattituck. The Town is in contract to purchase the fee title to 25.52 acres of the 28.53 acre parcel for open space purposes. SCTM#1000-106-6-14,16.2 & 20 Mr. Cremers: Mr. Chairman, I'll offer the following: WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board granted conditional final approval on January 14, 2002 on the lot line change application of Gerard Goehringer and Agnes McGunnigle; and WHEREAS, an extension request was received on May 1, 2002; be it therefore RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board grant a six month extension of conditional final approval from July 14, 2002 to December 14, 2002. Mr. Edwards: Second the motion. Chairman Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? �7 Southold Town Planning Board Page Nineteen May 13, 2002 Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Caggiano, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Latham. Chairman Orlowski: Opposed? The motion carries. *********** Set Hearings: Chairman Orlowski: Baxter Sound Estates —This proposed minor subdivision is for 2 lots on 4.65 acres. The property is located on Oregon Road, west of Bridge Lane in Cutchogue. SCTM#1000-72-2-2.1 Mr. Edwards: Mr. Chairman, I'll offer the following resolution: BE IT RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board set Monday, June 10, 2002, at 6:05 p.m. for a final public hearing on the maps dated September 9, 1999. Mr. Cremers: Second the motion. Chairman Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Ayes. Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Caggiano, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Latham. Chairman Orlowski: Opposed? The motion carries. ********** Sketch Approval: Chairman Orlowski: Old Orchard at Cutchogue - This proposed minor subdivision is for 4 lots on 4.619 acres. The property is located west of New Suffolk Road, directly north of Cedar's Road in Cutchogue. SCTM#1000-109-6-9.1 Mr. Caggiano: Mr. Chairman, I'll offer the following: WHEREAS, the applicant proposes a 4 lot subdivision on 4.619 acres, located within the R-40 Zoning District, in Cutchogue; and WHEREAS, Lot 1 equals 1.55 acres; Lot 2, .98 acres; Lot 3, .92 acres and Lot 4, .97 acres; be it therefore RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board start the SEAR lead agency coordination process for this unlisted action. Mr. Cremers: Second the motion. Chairman Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Southold Town Planning Board Page Twenty May 13, 2002 Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Caggiano, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Latham. Chairman Orlowski: Opposed? The motion carries. Mr. Caggiano: BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board grant sketch plan approval on the maps, dated June 6, 2001, with the following conditions: 1. Label the lines demarking the limits of clearing as "Limits of Clearing" on the map. 2. Revise the map scale from 1"=60' to 1" =100' as required by the Planning Board and Office of the County Clerk. 3. Label building envelopes as "Building Envelopes" on the map. 4. Show the name of the person that drilled the test hole and date of the drilling on the map. Mr. Latham: Second. Chairman Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Caggiano, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Latham. Chairman Orlowski: Opposed? The motion carries. ********** Sketch Extensions: Chairman Orlowski: Bayview Overlook at Southold - This proposed major subdivision is for 9 lots on 24 acres located on the north side of North Bayview Road, east of Reydon Drive in Southold. SCTM#1000-79-5-20.6 & 20.7 Mr. Cremers: Mr. Chairman, I'll offer the following: WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board granted sketch plan approval on April 16, 2001 for six months; and WHEREAS, the applicant is diligently pursuing his application; be it therefore RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board grant a retroactive six month extension of sketch plan approval from April 16, 2002 to October 16, 2002. Mr. Edwards: Second the motion. Chairman Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? 7q Southold Town Planning Board Page Twenty-One May 13, 2002 Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Caggiano, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Latham. Chairman Orlowski: Opposed? The motion carries. ********** Chairman Orlowski: Ernest Schneider- This proposed minor subdivision is for 2 lots on 12.3 acres and a 1.2-acre lot line change with an existing lot. The property is located on the west side of Alvah's Lane, north of CR 48 in Cutchogue. SCTM#1000-95-3-10 & 101-1-14.3 Mr. Edwards: Mr. Chairman, I'll offer the following resolution: WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board granted conditional sketch plan approval on April 16, 2001 for six months; and WHEREAS, this is the second extension request for the application; and WHEREAS, the applicant is diligently pursuing his application; be it therefore RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board grant a retroactive six month extension of sketch plan approval from April 16, 2002 to October 16, 2002. Mr. Cremers: Second the motion. Chairman Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Caggiano, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Latham. Chairman Orlowski: Opposed? The motion carries. ********************* MAJOR AND MINOR SUBDIVISIONS, LOT LINE CHANGES, SET OFF APPLICATIONS - STATE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY REVIEW ACT Determinations: Chairman Orlowski: Milazzo, John & Rose - This proposed minor subdivision is for 3 lots on 12.5253 acres located on Pipes Creek and bordered on the north by the LIRR track and on the west by Pipes Neck Road in Greenport. SCTM#1000-53-1-9 Mr. Caggiano: Mr. Chairman, I'll offer the following: Southold Town Planning Board Page Twenty-Two May 13, 2002 WHEREAS, this proposal is to subdivide a 12.54 acre parcel into 3 single family lots; and WHEREAS, prior to issuing any approvals for the proposed subdivision, the Planning Board is requiring that the concept be subject to SEQRA review; and WHEREAS, the Planning Board adopts the Environmental Assessment Review Report for Milazzo at Greenport, dated April 11, 2002; prepared by Nelson Pope and Voorhis, LLC; therefore BE IT RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to Part 617, Article 8 of the Environmental Conservation Law acting under the State Environmental Quality Review Act, establishes itself as lead agency, and as lead agency has determined that the proposed action may have a significant impact on the environment and adopts a Positive Declaration for the proposed action. Mr. Cremers: Second the motion. Chairman Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Caggiano, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Latham. Chairman Orlowski: Opposed? The motion carries. ********** Chairman Orlowski: Zoumas Contracting Corp. at Bawiew - This proposed major subdivision is for 22 lots on 48.2 acres located on the north side of North Bayview Road, approximately 100' west of Brigantine Drive in Southold. SCTM#1000-79-4-17.14 & 17.17 Mr. Edwards: Mr. Chairman, I'll offer the following resolution: WHEREAS, this proposal is to subdivide a 47.71 acre parcel into 22 single family lots; and WHEREAS, prior to issuing any approvals for the proposed subdivision, the Planning Board is requiring that the concept be subject to SEQRA review; and WHEREAS, the Planning Board adopts the Environmental Assessment Review Report for Zoumas at Bayview, dated April 25, 2002, prepared by Nelson Pope and Voorhis, LLC; therefore BE IT RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to Part 617, Article 8 of the Environmental.Conservation Law acting under the State Environmental Quality Review Act, establishes itself as lead agency, and as lead agency has determined that gl Southold Town Planning Board Page Twenty-Three May 13, 2002 the proposed action may have a significant impact on the environment and adopts a Positive Declaration for the proposed action. Mr. Cremers: Second the motion. Chairman Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Caggiano, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Latham. Chairman Orlowski: Opposed? The motion carries. Chairman Orlowski: Forestbrook at Bawiew - This proposed major subdivision is for 17 lots on 37.77 acres. The property is located on the north side of North Bayview Road, approximately 227.76' west of Jacob's Lane in Southold. SCTM#1000-79-2-7 Mr. Latham: Mr. Chairman, I'll offer this resolution: WHEREAS, this proposal is to subdivide a 37.77 acre parcel into 17 single family lots; and WHEREAS, prior to issuing any approvals for the proposed subdivision, the Planning Board is requiring that the concept be subject to SEQRA review; and WHEREAS, the Planning Board adopts the Environmental Assessment Review Report for Forestbrook at Bayview, dated April 25, 2002, prepared by Nelson Pope and Voorhis, LLC; therefore BE IT RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to Part 617, Article 8 of the Environmental Conservation Law acting under the State Environmental Quality Review Act, establishes itself as lead agency, and as lead agency has determined that the proposed action may have a significant impact on the environment and adopts a Positive Declaration for the proposed action. Mr. Caggiano: Second. Chairman Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Caggiano, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Latham. Chairman Orlowski: Opposed? The motion carries. ********** Dot Southold Town Planning Board Page Twenty-Four May 13, 2002 Chairman Orlowski: Papson, Vicky- This proposal is to set off 2.29 acres (Lot 1) from a 5.43 acre parcel. The property is located on the south side of Main Road, +/-400' east of Kayleigh's Court in East Marion. SCTM#1000-31-3-7 Mr. Cremers: Mr. Chairman, I'll offer the following: WHEREAS, this proposal is to set off 2.29 acre lot (1) from a 5.43 acre lot (2) on the south side of Main Road S.R. 25, Hamlet of East Marion, Town of Southold; and WHEREAS, a Zoning Board of Appeals Variance (Appl. No. 4981) was issued on August 16, 2001 granting relief of the minimum road frontage and lot widths for Lots 1 and 2; therefore BE IT RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board, acting under the State Environmental Quality Review Act, establishes itself as lead agency, and as lead agency, makes a determination of non-significance and grants a Negative Declaration. Mr. Edwards: Second the motion. Chairman Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Caggiano, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Latham. Chairman Orlowski: Opposed? The motion carries. ******************** SITE PLANS Set Hearings: Chairman Orlowski: Satur Farms - This proposed site plan is for a new 4,100 sq. ft. barn & a 1,105 sq. ft. roofed canopy equipment storage area on a 1.83 acre parcel in an A-C Zone located at 3705 Alvah's Lane in Cutchogue. SCTM#1000-101-2-24.5 Mr. Cremers: Mr. Chairman, I'll offer the following: BE IT RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board, acting under the State Environmental Quality Review Act, establishes itself as lead agency, and as lead agency, makes a determination of non-significance and grants a Negative Declaration. Mr. Edwards: Second the motion. Chairman Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Southold Town Planning Board Page Twenty-Five May 13, 2002 Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Caggiano, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Latham. Chairman Orlowski: Opposed? The motion carries. Mr. Cremers: In addition - BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board set Monday, June 10, 2002, at 6:00 p.m. for a final public hearing on the maps dated February 1, 2002. Mr. Edwards: Second the motion. Chairman Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Caggiano, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Latham. Chairman Orlowski: Opposed? The motion carries. I have nothing left on the formal agenda. If anybody would like to put anything on the minutes, they may do so now. If not, I'll entertain a motion to adjourn and we're going to go into a Work Session. Mr. Caggiano: So move. Mr. Edwards: Second. Chairman Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Ayes. Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Caggiano, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Latham. Chairman Orlowski: Opposed? The motion carries. There being no further business to come before the Board, the meeting was adjourned at 6:55 p.m. Respectfully submitted,, l Carol Kalin Bennett Orlow i, r., Chairma Barbara Rudder