HomeMy WebLinkAboutTB-08/12/1998-FI -h0 AUGUST 12, 1998
REGULAR MEETING
A Regular Meeting of the Southold _Town Board was held on August
12, 1998, at Fishers Island, Southold, New York. Supervisor Cochran
opened the meeting at 1 :30 P.M. with the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.
Present: Supervisor Jean W. Cochran
Councilwoman Alice J. Hussie
Justice Louisa P. Evans
Councilman William D. Moore
Councilman John M. Romanelli
Councilman Brian G. Murphy
Town Clerk Elizabeth A. Neville
Town Attorney Gregory F. Yakaboski
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: I would like to thank Fishers Island for once
again offering the opportunity to come to the island, and greet each and
every one. We had a meeting earlier, which was open, an open meeting,
with the Ferry District, and we are building some lines of communication,
which is always a positive direction. We would like to introduce those
attending today in case there is anyone from the island that would like to
speak to these people. We feel it is an opportunity for officials, not only
from Southold, but from Suffolk County, and New York State to get to
know you all of a little better, and you would get to know us. We are going
to introduce all the officials, so that you know who is here, 'and my
Deputy, Bill Moore is going to help with the list. We are going to share
them. We will be starting with Patty Acampora, our New York State
Assemblywoman from this district. Patty, would you like to say, hello?
PATRICIA ACAMPORA: Good afternoon, everyone. It is a pleasure to be
here. As usual you have beautiful weather. It was a beautiful trip over. I
was just talking to some of the people here on some of the issues that I
have been involved in, and certainly I will continue to be very earnest in
the advocacy for the fisherman and lobsterman, who are suffering problems
this year. I would like, also, to thank publicly while we are here our
Regional Director Ray Cowan, who has assisted us through the DEC. He
has helped us. Also, Captain Eugene Cocoran is here from the New York
State Police, who has been very helpful, when we had some problems back
in November, December. So, those agencies, I thank them very much. This
year is an interesting year in the Senate. One of the pieces of legislation
we do have was to increase the number commissioners for Fishers Island
Garbage District. So some of the legislation during these year, I think the
most important for Home Rule Message has come out of Southold for Fishers
Island. So, I am here if anyone needs to speak with me. I will be more
than happy to speak with you, if there is anything my office can assist
with, I am in Riverhead, and I have a card with me if you need a number.
Thank you for having me here today.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Thank you, Pat. We have Nicholas, is it
Acampora also, the name you are saying, that is what is listed here. We
have Bill Flyer, who is with Newsday. He has just begun covering the
Town of Southold, so we welcome him. He worked on the series that you
see on Channel 12 about historic Suffolk County. I guess it is the whole of
Long Island, and now they didn't know what to do with him, so they put
him out in Southold, so it is nice to have you with, us, Bill. DEC, New
York State Tony Cava, John Conover, Mark Carrera. EugeneCoccoran
from the New York Police Department out of the Hampton Bays area. Ray
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Coway from Stony Brook, our DEC leader. Fred Daniels, I think he is on
the island for Emergency Preparedness. Diane Devon from Mike
Caracciolo, his office. Diane, you are here somewhere. Craig Elgut, DEC.
Stanley Fargas, New York State- DEC. No one is in the office. Suffolk
County Department of Planning is Andrew Freleng, and Department of
Social Services is Rose Fuences, and Theirry Garvy, another New
York State DEC person.
COUNCILMAN MOORE: My list is of County, and some local people as well.
We have Jim Grathwohl, who is on the committee, Friends of Fort
Corchaug from over in Southold, Brian Hassemann from the Resource
Center, Department of Fire, Rescue, and Emergency Services. Tom
Iwanejko, Suffolk County Department of Public Works, Florida Jones,
Department of Social Services, Steve Jones, Suffolk County Department of
Planning, Steve Keuhhas, from the District Attorney, ADA, Harry
Mulhall, Suffolk County Probation Department, Thomas Martin, Suffolk
County Department of Health, Douglas McCabe, Department of
Agriculture, Joseph Michaels, Assistant Deputy Suffolk County
Department of Public Safety, Katherine Murphy, Red Cross Kathleen
Newcomer, Suffolk County Department of Health Services, Erik Parks, Staff
Assistant of Congressman Forbes, Paul Ponturo, Suffolk County
Department of Health, Maureen Porta, Suffolk County Department of the
Aging, Frank Randall, Suffolk County Department .of Health Services, Holly
Rhodes-Teague, Director of Suffolk County Department of Aging, Michael
Schlosberg, Suffolk County Clerk's Office,
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Phyllis Atkinson is from the Board of Assessment
Review, Jim Bunchuck, who is the Department Head of the Landfill in
Southold, Laura Collins, who is a new member on the Zoning Board of
Appeals, Joseph Conway, Joe is our Chief of the Southold Police
Department, John Cushman, who is our Accounting Officer, and runs that
department for us very well indeed. Ed Dart, who is from our Tree
Committee, Jim Dinizio from the ZBA, Melanie Doroski from my office.
Mel and Ruthanne Woodhull is from my office also. Ruthanne runs
f the office, and they had the assignment of purchasing and setting up
I{ lunch, so thank you both for helping make the day. Of course, we all know
Louisa Evans, Board member. Ed Forrester is from our Enforcement and
Building,. Don Fredericks, who is with the Shellfish Advisory Committee,
Valarie Scopaz, who runs the Planning Department, John Sullivan, he is
from the Board of Assessment Review, Robert Van Bourgordien, he is on
our Agricultural Advisory Committee. Bob, thank you. Greg Yakaboski is
our Town Attorney. I just want to take a moment, though because I did
hit these listed, and I did hit Louisa, but I would like to interject right
here, and introduce the Board.- I will start on my left, and Greg Yakaboski
is the Southold Town Attorney. Then we have John Romanelli, who is a new
Board member. Then we have Alice Hussie, who is a Senior Board member.
It doesn't mean old, it means senior, and we have Bill Moore who is my
Deputy and also, Councilman, and Betty Neville our Town Clerk, and of
course, Louisa, and then Brian Murphy, who is our Board member. Bill,
continue.
COUNCILMAN MOORE: We also have Craig Siracusa, Regions Director
from Suffolk County Executive's Office, Paul Sparza, who is our
cameraman from Channel 27, Robert Stanonis, Suffolk County Department
of the Aging, John Stype from the Stype from Stype Insurance Company,
which is the company that helps keep the town squared away on it's
insurance. Mary Ann Wowak, Legal Assistant to the Suffolk County
Legislature is here. Ed Boyd with the Fire Chiefs Council is here, Claire
Glew from the Town Assessors Office, Gerry Goehringer, the ZBA
Chairman, John Jerome is here helping setting up. He is from Southold
Maintenance Department. Bob Kassner is here from the Planning Board.
Trustee Jim King is here, our lobsterman. He is friend of lobsterman on
Fishers Island. Bill Kremers is here from the Planning Board. Vee
McKeighan our Director • of the Human Resource Center, along with Karn
McLaughlin, who works at the Human Resource Center as well. Community
Development Director Jim McMahon, Val Meyer from the Landfill is here.
Trustee Ken Polywoda is here. Our Tax Receiver, Marilyn Quintana,
John Raynor, who is our Emergency Management Coordinator or Director,
Ken Reeves, Department head of Recreation, Jamie Richter, the Highway
Department Town Engineer, Barbara Rudder from the Town Accounting
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Department, Scott Russell, one of our Assessors, and Dick Ryan, the
Chairman of our Land Preservation Committee. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: I think I skipped Lydia, Lydia Totora, ZBA.
Thank you, Lydia. Sorry about that. Is there anyone that I have skipped
on the list. We have tried to check in with those of you who were boarding
this morning. We didn't want to lose anyone on shore. Okay, as you may or
may not know the Town Board has a policy that a this time before we act
on any resolutions, those attending may certainly offer their input to the
Town Board, or any comments in relation to the resolutions on the agenda. ti
If not, if it is just general Town business, that you would like to share
something with us, we will take that at -the end of the meeting. So, at this u!
time before we begin to pass the resolutions, is there anyone that would
like to address the Town Board in relation to the resolutions? (No
response.) If not, I am going to read the first resolution. I would like
Jim King to join me up here. Jim and I worked on this resolution, and I
would say that Jim gave more input than I may have, but we both feel very
strongly about it. Although Jim, this is not his Board to vote, I would
like him to be here with me, because of the support he has shown for the
lobster industry on Fishers Island.
1 .- Moved by Supervisor Cochran, seconded by Councilman Moore,
WHEREAS, the lobster resource is the most valuable marine resource in
New York State, and
WHEREAS, the American lobster resource has been declared over-fished
throughout its range, mandating fishing effort reductions and lobster stock
rebuilding to sustainable levels, and
WHEREAS, it is the policy of the State of New York that' the primary
principle in managing the State's marine fishery resource is to maintain the
long term health and abundance of marine fisheries resources and their
habitats, and to ensure that the resources are sustained in usable
abundance and diversity for future generations, and
WHEREAS, utilization and allocation of available resources will be
administered consistent with the restoration and maintenance of health
stocks and habitats, now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold strongly support
the implementation of a Fishers Island Lobster Conservation Area, crafted to
reduce fishing effort, protect and increase the brood stock abundance and
reduce fishing mortality to levels which would minimize risk of stock
depletion and recruitment failure and maintain the stewardship relationship
between fisherman and the resource, as per Supervisor Jean Cochran and
Trustee James King.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Jim, thank you for helping me on this, and let's
see how the Board votes.
1 .- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Hussie,
Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: This will be sent to the Governor, to all key
people in government, and different agencies throughout New York State in
hopes that they will put into place conservation area. We are not saying
that you can't do certain things, but we certainly should begin to look at
preserving and managing the resources, so hopefully this will taken in all
seriousness and see some results. We will certainly will continue to fight
for it. Thank you, Jim.
2.- Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Romanelli, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby approves
the preparation and filing of an application to the New York State
Department of - Environmental Conservation (NYDEC) and the United State
Environmental Protection Agency (USEPA) for designation of the creeks
and embayments of this Town as a Vessel N-Discharge Zone (NDZ); and
be it further
RESOLVED that the Peconic Baykeeper is hereby requested and
authorized to assist the Town in the preparation and , filing of said
application.
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2.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Hussie,
Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
3.-Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board hereby accepts, with regret, the
resignation of Katherine Holbrook as a technician under the Fishers Island
Safe BTI Program.
3.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
k Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Hussie,
Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
4.-Moved by Councilman Murphy, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints
Ann Ellis as a Technician under the Fishers Island Safe BTI Mosquito
Program, to replace Katherine Holbrook who resigned, at a salary of
$6.50 per hour, effective immediately.
4.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Hussie,
Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: That is the end of the planned resolutions. We
did feel that we would like to share some things with you, that are going
on in the mainland. Reverend Dozier was supposed to be with us today,
and at the last minute he was unable to join us, but many of the Board
members are liaisons to different 'committees throughout the town, and it is
their responsibility to work with these committees. They report back to the
Board so that we know what is going on where. Councilman Moore does
work with the Anti-Bias Task Force Committee, and Bill, we are sad that
Reverend is not with us, but if you would just maybe fill in a little bit,
and explain and share what the committee function is.
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COUNCILMAN MOORE: Thank you. The paraphrase on what was said, evil
can happen when good people sit by and do nothing, and the Town Board
of the Town of Southold decided not to sit by and do nothing, it declared
1998 to be a Bias-Free Year for the Town of Southold. It sounds great and
thoughtful, and it's a great goal. It doesn't make it so. It also created
several years ago an Anti-Bias Task Force. This the focus was really to be
more active, and do more things. - The Anti-Bias Task Force has three
sub-components, one is an education component which goes into the schools
to try and show children at an. early age what bias is about, and how
damaging it is to other people. It has no place in a community of people
who pride themselves on open-mindedness and concern for their neighbors.
The second element of this organization is a legal committee which looks at
some things of hate crime legislation pending in Albany, and trying to
encourage it's adoption, and the third is a social component, which is to
encourage interaction between people who might not otherwise interact, and
this summer we had a terrific' 1950's Motown Dance down at the American
Legion Hall in Greenport. So, it is an instance where it is a very active
committee. A wide range of people are involved all over the community, and
we are happy to be a part of it. It's too bad Reverend Dozier couldn't make
it, because he could expound more fully on what all is going on, but I am
happy to be part of that committee and serve on it on behalf of the Town
Board.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Thank you, Bill. We have a Supervisor's update
here, and there are several issues that are happening, and things going on
that are important that you have updates on. The first one is the
Community Preservation Project Plan, which many of you probably know
more as the 2% Land Bank Bill. In fact, I just attended the meeting in
Riverhead the other day, and the discussion followed, well, gee, if we put
Community Preservation on the ballot in November people aren't really going
to know which plan it is, so I think they are putting both the 2%, so you
will identify with the plan that is being developed, and going on in the
Town of Southold. Valarie Scopaz, our head Planner. Dick, are you a
part of this? I don't who has been updating. Just yourself? Dick Ryan,
he is here. He is Chairman of our Preservation Committee, and Brian is the
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liaison Town Board member with that committee. As I said, this will. be on
the ballot in November, so it is important that we all know what is going on.
VALERIE SCOPAZ: I just wanted to .give you a brief update. As you know
in June of this year, the Governor signed his legislation into being, and
the Town has until September 1st to put together a draft plan and a map,
which shows which properties we would preserve providing we take part in
this program. All of this has to be put together in time for September
1st. It has to be put together 60 days prior to the November election. We
put together a draft. Extra copies will be left with Louisa. I am hoping
that copies can be distributed to wherever, local library, the post office,
pass it around. I think you should take a look at it. Just so you know
have the map here. This map was prepared by the staff in the building,
Planning staff along with the Land Preservation Commission committee, and
also all the other different departments in Town Hall, and also from Fishers
Island. A special trip was made by the Planning staff with Dick Ryan,
along with Tim Caulfield of the Peconic Land Trust, and Brian Murphy.
They came on Saturday, July 25th to go over this map here, and to
solicit input as to what changes should be made to the map. On the far
left is the- update of what we did on this map. The corrections have been
incorporated into our final copy, which is on the left. This is what is
going to be the subject of the Town Board public hearing next week,
August 18th. If it is adopted by the Town Board as a final plan, this is
what will be before the voters in November. Just to give you a brief
background, what is shown in orange on the map, is the property that we
are proposing to be put on as potential acquisition. This is a 100%
voluntary program, there has some concern about that. I just want to
mention that some of these properties, there was a rationale behind picking
out these properties. The Legislation requires certain types of property to
be considered. We not only looked at the listing of the protected property,
but we took into account the recommendations of Fishers Island Growth
Plan, and the Fishers Island Watershed Study, which we had done in
connection with the Suffolk County Health Department two or three years
ago. So, we tried to incorporate all those recommendation into this map.
Also, of note, there is a printout of all the recommended properties.
On August 5th a mailing went out to all the property owners that we had
noted on the map, and I am hoping that all the letters have reached their
destination. We received a few back in the office, none from Fishers Island
so far, that were undeliverable. That basically gives you a synopsis of
what this program is about, and just to let you know that your property is
on the list. The program is a voluntary program. What that means is that
you as property owner have this as an option, if you so choose to exercise
it. You are not bound to sell your property, the whole property. You can
sell partial rights to your property. All of this is explained in the text
here, so I suggest if you have a few minutes to go through it explains the
various mechanisms, or preservation options that the Town will consider in
conjunction with the property. If there are any questions we have Dick
Ryan here also, and Greg Yakaboski, he can talk about the legal aspects of
the legislation.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Thank you. Are there any questions in relation
to this bill? Yes?
TWIG STICKNEY: Quickly in summary, the 2% goes into a pot, or a pool.
I assume this is sort of going to several. . this is segregated by the area
that it comes from. In other words, if $5,000,000 of the property gets
over to Southold proper, Fishers is excluded from that.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Fishers is a part of the Southold Town. Each of
the five East End towns is separate, and Fishers Island, of course, is a
part of Southold Township, so they become available, and what is so nice
about this is the money will not just be 'used for open space, or farmland
development rights, it can be used for scenic vistas. It can be used for
wetland areas. It can be used for historic structures, if you have historic
houses here, so it is very broad. There is many, many things. Riverhead
and Southold's plan is for improved property, $150,000. Anything above the
$150,000 would have the 2% attached to it. For unimproved land it would be
$75,000, so if there was young person that is going to buy a house for
$180,000, they would only 2% on the $30,000. Okay? Now, you don't have
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TWIG STICKNEY: It's not so much that, I guess it goes back to the age
old, you know, if you put in whether we get .back; the custom here is we
put in, are we assured of getting back? Might we get back more than what
we put in, or?
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: No. I would like to think that it is all of us, not
just me put in, or you put in, you are a part of Southold Town, and we
respect, and we like having you as part of Southold Town, and if there is
recommendations from the island in relation to a purchase it will be given
every consideration. Committee-wise the bill calls for having a committee,
rather than duplicate with a committee we felt that we would use the Land
Preservation Committee. We did have an applicant from Fishers Island, but
it was felt that rather than put them as a full member of the committee, we
would have them as a liaison, and they will be invited, they will receive
minutes every meeting. They will be invited to come over whenever there is
some piece of property or something historic that Fishers Island feels they
would like to be looked at, and purchased. So, we are involving the island
as much as we possibly can. It is not a you and 1, it is a we. We are
going to work together on this. It will benefit all of us. Yes, sir?
FRANK BURR: It would seem that having a full member of the committee
would be excluding the concerns. It would seem that it would add
creditability to Fishers Island representation. I am sure there are reasons
why, and I would imagine that they could be accomplished, and whatever
attendance can be felt given whether on other issues, but having a
representative and maybe an alternate from Fishers Island I think just
addressing the issue that was just made would, I believe, raise the
credibility of involvement to the appropriate level.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Thank you. Is there anyone else that would like
to speak to this issue?
CHERRY RAFFERTY: Cherie Rafferty, Fishers Island, New York. I am
always hesitant about this type of use of the land. I wondered whether you
would be selecting, for example, the larger piece. If you choose between
two pieces, I would like to know a little bit more before we really decide
on a system such as this. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Anyone else like to address the Board? (No
response) It is going to enable us to purchase additional land, as I said,
not only on Fishers Island, but on the mainland. It is problem we all see.
There is a piece of property here on the island right now, that the Town is
looking at. We don't have good news for you yet, but hopefully we will
have. We are concerned with Fishers Island, so although there will not be a
permanent member of the committee at this point, it will be liaison. As I
said, we incorporated the Land Preservation Committee, because that was
already in place. We had two vacancies, and we have filled those vacancies,
one with a person from the vineyards, the grapes, he manages a vineyard,
and the second person is someone who is very involved with the waters,
and the marine industry, and we have tried to keep a balance on the
committee with people from different areas. So, as vacancies come along
perhaps that can be considered, but at this point we would like this
gentleman to be a liaison with approval from the island here, and we will
keep him informed as much as any voting member. Any other comments in
relation to the Community Preservation Fund? (No response.) If not, we
will move along. John Raynor has been meeting with, I believe, people from
the County, and the State, in relation to the emergency plan. -
JOHN RAYNOR: Good afternoon. 1 will just give you a quick update on the
Town's activities in relation to the Millstone Nuclear facility, and the
safety emergency plan for the Fishers Island residents. About three years
ago under the direction of Supervisor Cochran we initiated a review of the
plan that was in place with the NRC for Fishers Island, and we found it
to be deficient for a number of reasons. Number one, there would lines to
evacuate the population to New London, regardless of what type of incident
we had at : Millstone. Within this petition both FEMA and NRC should
open the Millstone safety plan with revision to give the town more options.
We have recently have been successful, but it took awhile dealing with the
NRC. During that same period, as you know all the—after that Millstone
was shut down because of operating safety violations. About a month ago
the NRC did give Northeast Utilities permission to restart reactor number
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three, which is their newest reactor. Northeast also hopes to get reactor
number two on the line this fall, and they have decided to shut down the
oldest reactor, number one. They won't be putting it back on line. This is
pertinent. As of now Millstone is ready to shut down again. They developed
what they described as a minor leak of non-reactive water from a valve, so
they are going to be shut down for a minimum of. seven to ten days. As the
Supervisor said, right now I am meeting with representatives of New York
State, and Suffolk County, along with Alan Thibodeau for the island. We
are very close to presenting our final revision of the plan to the Town
Board, and to FEMA, and NRC, and basically what we want to do is
keep it in light . the type of- incidence . .we could -have. at. Millstone. We
wouldn't have enough of options, and what we are looking at is the first
option is a sheltering place on the island. It . is very possible that the
release will be not significant enough to evacuate the people. Evacuation
of the island at any time, especially in the summer is not something that we
are going to take lightly. So our plan will focus putting sheltering in
place, and it will also call for evacuating the population, if necessary, to
either Orient Point or Stonington, Connecticut. Recently the ferry
district ran a test to make sure the boats could get into Stonington. That
test was successful. On the Long Island Sound side we have already set up
shelters, busing, and we hope to reach an agreement with Cross Sound
Ferry for transportation. When that plan is done we will present it to the
Town Board for discussion, hopefully approval, and then FEMA will
accept it. We are actually pretty happy what we have been able to
accomplish. It is a large task force to deal with the nuclear facility.- We
have developed before Suffolk County and New York State, and I am happy
to say Northeast Utilities of the State of Connecticut have been very
cooperative. We hope it is going to get done as soon as possible. Somebody
asked me the time frame on this. The Supervisor wanted it to get done
yesterday. We would prefer that the plant did not reopen until we had our
plan in place. We had FEMA evaluation and exercise here a couple of
years ago. Judge Evans participated, and in that exercise we were able to
prove that New London is not a viable option, because in the scenario New
London was contaminated, and three hours later they asked us to move the
island into New London, so our questions with the plans proved to be
correct. So, based on that actual demonstration, and the other that we
have done we may have convinced them that we do need a change of plan.
We have been seven to ten days time to work on it. We are going to take it
seriously. I like to get back to our meeting.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: John, thank you. Does anyone have a question of
John? (No response.) Bob Kassner is a member of our Landmark
Preservation Commission, and he wanted to share some readings from the
committee, plus some information.
BOB KASSNER: Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. I am Bob
Kassner. I am a member of Southold Landmark Preservation Commission.
The Commission asked me to address very briefly, for the reason that there
is no home, not one single home, a historic site on Fishers Island in the
Town's Register of historic places, and sites. This kind of surprises the
Commission. The reason perhaps may be some misunderstanding of the
Commission's purpose. There is actually no prohibition against changing the
facade, or building anything on their home. You can even demolish it,
although we would hope you wouldn't. One of the advantages of the
commission listing, several 1 think, one is it is a prestigious designation
for their home. You would go on Southold's official Town listing of historic
homes. We do have a book of historic homes, or even a site, if you have a
historic site. There is a very large and attractive brass plaque you are
awarded at a Town Board meeting from the Supervisor, which can be
affixed to your home. So I just wanted to say that if anyone wishes to be
on the Register, please come forward, and let the Commission know. We
would appreciate your input. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Thanks, Bob. This is a voluntary program, and
it does not impose anything on you. It is just that it keeps us updated on
the old homes that we have within the township, and as Bob said, you can
make changes to your home: It is not going to prohibit anything, but we
certainly love to, if there are old sites or homes on Fishers Island have
them as a part of the listing for Southold Town. I would just like to
update you. The last thing on the agenda is junk car removal. I went into
New York City to the Association of Towns meeting this past year, and one
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of the programs was the National Guard and their Guard Help Program. I
have a son that is a Colonel in the National Guard. He is commander of the
369th Harlem Hellfighters, so he is right there with a lot of good
guys, and so I decided I would go to the seminar. I don't think there were
anymore than five of us there, but they began to spell out, share with us,
what the National Guard is trying to share with municipalities, and towns,
and villages. It is support in many ways. They have a drug abuse
program, which is absolutely great. I would like to see it incorporated into
Southold's DARE Program, or perhaps run it. It is for 7th graders, and
it is done through the ,;National Air Guard. One of the projects that we are
looking at, Louisa had. mentioned at one time that there were rust cars on
Fishers Island. I said, aha, I was a Park Commissioner for the County at
the time that we had the National Guard remove the junk cars from the Pine
Barrens. So, to me it sounded like a pretty logical project, that we could
do perhaps for Fishers Island, so I have been working back and forth with
the National Air Guard, and I understand the General up-state New York,
this is his favorite project. He thinks this is one he would like to see go,
so we are very hopeful. They have to wait for Federal funds to come down
October 1st to pay for this. They are very hopeful that they will be able
to airlift the junk cars off Fishers Island over to the mainland, and from
there they will be taken to a junk dealer. I believe that they are directly
working with the DEC. It is not our responsibility to do that part.
Batteries, any liquids have to be removed from the cars before they are
airlifted, but they did this very successfully, as I say, in the Pine
Barrens, so there is no reason it can't happen here. So, we are still trying
to put things in place. We are still working, and we are working our way
through forms, and I just had to send a letter that we don't have any sling
type businesses on the island, and competition with the Air Guard to move
these things off, so hopefully this will all work out, and we will be able
to move the junk cars from Fishers Island. I am going to have to know how
many, what kink, and so on, and so forth for them before this happens.
They all have to be moved to the airfield, so that they are all- in the same
area, but of course this information will come to you through Louisa later
on, but-they would like a number of approximately how many junk cars we
do have over here on the island, so if you know of any, please, notify
Louisa so she can do a master list, and we will have that information.
Okay? Does anyone have any questions, any other topic you would like to
discuss with the Town Board? Yes, sir?
FRANK BURR: Frank Burr. First of all I on just a personally basis I
would like to thank Supervisor Cochran and the Board, and all of .the
people who came, and are spending a day out here. I know we all
appreciate how busy all your schedules are, and we most appreciate your
coming out and your attention to the affairs of Fishers Island. I wanted to
just bring up two subjects, one it has to do with really a thank you to the
Town Board, and Representative Acampora for their support of affordable
housing here on Fishers Island for the year-round residents, and I thought
you might briefly bring them up to date on what has transpired, and to
thank you especially for a recent development. I was one of the founders of
Walsh Park. It is ten years old this year. You probably remember that
the project was to purchase a tract of land, twenty-four acres, at the west
end of Fishers Island, and to develop on those twenty-four acres, twelve
sites, for the purpose of providing residences for year-round families. The
uniqueness of, this project is that the corporation which is tax-exempt owns
the underlying land, and issues a thirty-five year renewal lease to those
people who are going to buy the houses that go on top of this land, so
effectively what Walsh Park Corporation has done is to buy and 'develop
this interstructure, put the foundations in first to the point of putting a
home that comes from Connecticut Valley to these sites on Fishers Island. I
know many of have been up there, but it is a wonderful project. All twelve
houses are full. I think what is unique about this project is that the home
is owned by the persons that live in that home. The land is owned by the
corporation; and you know going back to the original formation of Walsh
Park our concern was give it into the right hands, and have it flip_ into the
wrong hands, and to this point we have been effective in being able to
sustain this project for year-round housing. The fact that last year it's
the first turnover of one of the original buyers, and it worked according to
Hoyle. That is it went into the hands of another year-round family, which
pleased us greatly. Also the thank you is to thank the Town Board for the
resolution, that was passed here several years ago, and that was to
support Walsh Park being a recipient of the house that became the
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County's via the non-payment of taxes. I would like to report to you, as
you know, that it did come to Walsh Park, and I would further like to
report that we are very close now to be getting the renovations of this
house. It has land unused for a long period of time. We have had some
wonderful volunteer help from our friends within Walsh Park, and within
the island, to clean up the inside of this house, which was pretty well
vandalized, to clear the yard, and prepare this house for renovations. We
have a contractor on the island, who is volunteered to play a major role to
put this house in shape for us at a price, one that we can easily afford. It
is going to be done at cost, or less, and we being a tax-exempt corporation
can offer some ability to have -a person restore it; a margin of the issuing
letter with respect to taxes. So, we thank you for that support. We report
happily that we are about to renovate this house, and it will be the
thirteenth home, and we are contemplating making this a rental property,
because as you heard before, I think, rental property on Fishers Island in
terms of quality rental projects have been an issue, and -we are going to
try and address that issue. So, that is one thing. The second thing, I am
the President of the Fishers Island Development Corporation, which owns
the roads at the east end of Fishers Island. I have been working, as the
corporation has, very closely with Nancy Hunt, and the Police Advisory
Committee with respect to law enforcement and safety issues here on Fishers
Island. I would like to say briefly, that we have a wonderful coming
together early this year with Chief Conway, your Chief of Police, our Chief
of Police, and Captain Eugene Corcoran, the head of Troop L, and
subsequently we heard from the Inspector Richard Arbourne from Albany
with respect to our concerns about law enforcement safety on Fishers
Island. I would like to report just briefly that from the point of view of
our agenda, we were seeking a number of things, an increased commitment
to law enforcement (tape change) About the idea of Town police, and for a
lot of reasons it is not an especially practical solution to Fishers Island
to have your Town policeman. However, we have, and I believe the Chief
recently addressed the Town Board, have requested that the constable
force be reenforced. There is a potential retirement of one of the two, and
whether that person retires or not, we would like to Town Board to
consider adding yet a third Constable. The remoteness of Fishers Island,
and the difficulty of bringing any help here anytime here soon, requires
that we get outside help in terms of our law enforcement and safety needs.
I think it goes without saying, that is the prime line, because we don't
have the numbers of people, and we don't have the depth of crime that
exists in other areas, but we do have our remoteness, which does, we
think warrant more coverage than we have been getting. We have appealed
to New York State Police to extend their season here, and they have been
very cooperative, but there are still many months where there is no
interstate police coverage here, and just to state the practicalities of it,
to have anyone with anybody with any credentials in law enforcement
having two constables doesn't do the job. It is just by definition can't do
the job. This is a place not covered from December to April, except for the
Constable. Not to mention the fact that we need it even in our busy
seasons, which are now getting bigger, and bigger, it is kind of May to
November now, if not longer. We need the support of not only the two
constables we have, but we would like to suggest and urge the Town Board
to think seriously about a third one. We have talked to Chief Conway, and
we are well aware of his concerns about training, and the 500 hours of
training. that are needed for a . full blown constable today make it almost
impractical that we could find anyone at the amount of money that is paid to
a constable to give up a half of anyone's life to receive. all of that time.
On the other hand, in conversations we have come to the conclusion that we
think mutually that there is some training that should be given that under
Civil Service you can allow this person to receive the title, constable, and
that while it is not full-blown we would make an attempt juggling to provide
the training we could, both now, and on an ongoing basis, and we would
also like to suggest that the medical benefits that have in the past been
extended to constables, which is unique we know, be continued because the
stipend is not a lot of money to ask people essentially to be on call every
day, all day, and that is what a constable is. Secondly, we think that the
medical coverage would have a significant impact on enticing people. As you
may know we are currently advertising for applicants for the position of
Constable, and I understand that one application has been submitted, and a
couple of blanks have been taken out, so I guess we can look forward to
more in terms of applications, and the purpose really is to just to plead
with you and encourage you to give your fullest consideration to our
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getting more coverage than we have, and we think that the constable
method of going is an incredible cost affective way. from the Town's point of
view, and does give us the kind of level comfort that is greater than what
we have today. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Thank you. Bill, I saw you write down from
December to April they have no protection here. That is like saying to the
world I am going on vacation, my house is empty for two days, so you
could just kind of just skip over those dates. I don't know how the TV
does it, but it is not wise to let the outside world know that from December
to April you can come and break in the houses here. Just my way of
thinking. Is there anyone else that would like to address the Town Board?
JOHN THATCHER: I am John Thatcher, President of the Fishers Island
Conservancy, and Jean not only do I endorse what Frank just said,
wanted to thank the Town Board personally on behalf of the Fishers Island
Conservancy and the Fishers Island. lobstermen for that resolution you
passed just a little earlier this afternoon. It is a first step which I
think will help enormously because one of things we really want to do is sit
down, and talk to people at both the Legislative area, and the regulative,
and Ray Cowan, I know, is sitting right there. Hopefully he will listen to
what I am trying to save, because unless we get that this problem may not
be solved, and I think it can be, and I think it can be in that it will be
mutually satisfactory, hopefully to both sides in the dispute. Thank you all
very, very much.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Thank you, John Is there anyone else that would
like to address the Town Board on any Town Board business?
PAT KIBBE: I am Pat Kibbe, and I am on the Fort Wright Association
Centennial Committee. I would like to present a plaque to you from the
Lighting Committee for letting our lights shine on Fort Wright Officers
Row. I appreciate the fact that John Cushman was able to receive all the
wonderful donations that the Fishers Island people gave for the lights, and
figure everything out for us. Of course, Tom Doherty has just being
wonderful, and I know George Esser and I appreciate all the help we
received from you for our celebration. Thank you very much
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Thank you very much. I came over for the day
for the celebration, and it was a hot summer day. We came across first on
the New London Ferry, and then the Fishers Island Ferry, and I thought,
now I really appreciate Louisa when she has to use the boats rather than
fly over. It is quite a trip, but we had a nice day, and thank you, and we
got the lovely book on the Fort, which my son confiscated, but we thank
you very much for this plaque, and it will be hung in Town Hall, and
thank you. Is there anyone else who would like to address the Board? (No
response.) If not, would any of the Board members like to say anything?
John?
COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: I would like to say this is my first time on
Fishers Island, newly elected on the Board. What I saw so far it is a
beautiful place, and want to thank you all for having us here, and what we
talked about on the Town Board, Louisa has brought it to our attention a
waterfront piece of property that has been tossed around about trying to
cut a deal, and buy it. I would love to see this piece of land before we
leave here today, if we can. If someone has the opportunity to show it to
me, I would appreciate it.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: I think any Board member that hasn't seen it
should really go down and see the property that we are talking about.
Alice, would you like to say, greeting? '
COUNCILWOMAN HUSSIE: Thank you. We had that little reference before
the introduction between the junior and senior, and it got me -to thinking
this is my seventh visit to Fishers Island, and it is a great place. It was
great the first time, and it is the second. time. I did have one thing that I
wanted to talk to you about, and that is a surprise that I had when Justice
Evans had told before that the people on Fishers Island were not interested
in being part of a Southold Gas and Electric Utility Company. I am not here
to sell anything. I just thought I would ask if you had seen the consultants
report, and if you haven't if you want a copy. Your rates I understand are
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even worse than ours over in the mainland, so to speak. If we were to
break away, if you broke away, as we are hoping to do, your rates would
be less, so the only thing I want to say to you is if you are at all
interested in this whole thing ask us for a copy of the consultants report,
and make up your mind. It is nice to be here again. See you next year.
JUSTICE EVANS: May I just clarify something? It's not that we are not
interested. It is at this point we don't have enough information for Fishers
Island to join and be part of the legislation, and I was hesitant to have us
included in legislation without the research being done before hand, and I
am hoping that is being done now.
COUNCILWOMAN HUSSIE: This is going to be a little bit of a dialogue.
Louisa did mention to me that she felt, or there were those of you who felt,
that no investigation be done for Fishers Island. I checked immediately
with the consultants when I heard this, because I thought, my goodness,
how can do anything without even checking it out? They assured me that
they—although they did not talk to you individually, and personally, they
did check with the Public Service Commission. They checked with your
supplier in Connecticut, and they researched the various forms and reports
that are on file, the two states. I was going to get that information to
her, and I didn't do it.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Alice, please, get the information to Louisa.
COUNCILWOMAN HUSSIE: Tuesday.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Thank you. Mr. Moore?
COUNCILMAN MOORE: Southold Town is a great place, and it is great to
have Fishers Island be a part of Southold Town. The Supervisor mentioned
before that given the geographic separation we can fall into the us, and
them, and we, and you, kind of thing, and hopefully by coming over, and
here to visit we can break down that. We have the same thing happen to
the village, us and them kind of thing, and Mattituckers can do an us
and them, and Orienters can do an us and them, and hopefully we will
remember that we are all a part of the same town, and it is one hell of a
town, one of the nicest places you can ever visit. I. know you all know
that, so we are just preaching to ourselves, but the 2% Land Transfer Tax
is one of the many tools that the Town has if the voters pass this
referendum. Among other things that are going on the Town as a whole has
bonded regularly to buy open space, and farmland preservation rights, so
this is just one more tool in a tool kit, if you look at it that way, to
help maintain the beauty of a great town, and I want to thank you for your
hospitality. I enjoy visiting here by boat, by ferry, by plane. It is a
great place, and I thank you again for having us.
COUNCILMAN MURPHY: This is my third trip in, I think, in a month and
a half. It has been a very unusual experience. I decided this is probably
the best kept secret on the whole east coast, Fishers Island, and I hope it
stays that way. I know, and I think I voice with the rest-of the Board, we
are very happy that you are part of Southold Town, and we hope that we
can help you accomplish what you want to accomplish, and you can help us
accomplish what we want to accomplish, so I thank you very much, and we
will be back.
JUSTICE EVANS: I just want to reiterate what Frank Burr said, and thank
everybody for coming, all you from the State, the County, and the Town.
Also, thank the island residents summer and winter for coming, because if
you don't come to this meeting, and ask questions, and talk to people a lot
doesn't get done, because we need your participation. I thank everybody
for being down here. If you have issues you want brought to the Town
Board, just talk to me.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Betty, would you like to say, hello?
TOWN CLERK NEVILLE: Yes, I would. Although I am a new Town Clerk,
as of January 1st, I am not new to the town. I think I had my first trip
to Fishers Island back in 1968, if I am not mistaken, to come over to do
stenography work for the Justice Court, and I have been back many times,
and I have enjoyed every trip very much. Thank you.
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SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Thank you, Betty. I would like to thank
Scudder Sinclair. I am going home . with two boxes of Boroleum. He
said I have to share it, but I don't know if I will. I have been looking for
this for years. I used to work in a drug store years ago in. Southold when
I first got married, and this is the ointment that old Doc Stevens across
the street recommended to everyone, so we used to sell this stuff by the
case. At some point in my life, maybe when I was on the Board ten or
twelve years ago, and I came over here, and they said this is where
Boroleum is made, and I said, you are kidding, on Fishers Island, like a
factory making this ointment? It wasn't like that, but anyhow, I am just so
happy to find it again after all those years, and each Board member might
get a half a tube. Thank you for joining us.
Moved by Councilman Moore, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that this Town Board meeting be and hereby is adjourned at
2:35 P.M.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Hussie,
Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
Elizabeth A. Nevi le
Southold Town Clerk
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