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HomeMy WebLinkAboutTB-03/04/1980-PH PUBLIC HEARING ON U.S . DEPARTMENT OF H.U.D. COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FUNDS APPLICATION A public hearing was held by the Southold Town Board at the Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York 11971, at , 7 :48 o 'clock P.M. on the 4th day of March, 1980 regarding the filing of a final application for Community Development Funds under the U.S . Department of Housing and Urban Develop- ment' s Single Purpose Small Cities Program. Present were: Supervisor William R. Pell III Councilman Lawrence Murdock, Jr. Councilman Henry W. Drum Absent were: Justice Francis T. Doyen Councilman John J. Nickles Councilman George R. Sullivan. SUPERVISOR PELL opened the hearing at 7 : 48 P.M. and asked Councilman Drum to read the legal notice of hearing. COUNCILMAN DRUM read the legal notice of hearing, as follows: . . .NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the Town Board of the Town of Southold is planning to file a final applica- tion for Community Development Funds under the U.S . Department of Housing and Urban Development ' s Single Purpose Small Cities Program. As required under the legislation, two public hearings will be held at which members of the public may present written and oral suggestions and become fully informed of the application process. The hearings will be held on March 4 , 1980 at 7 : 30 P.M. and March 11, 1980 at 8 :30 P.M. at the Southold Town Hall, . Main Road, Southold, New York. Dated: February 26 , 1980 . BY ORDER OF THE SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD JUDITH T. TERRY TOWN CLERK COUNCILMAN DRUM: We ..have affidavits of publication from the Long Island Traveler Watchman and Suffolk Times for hear- ing at 7 :30 on March the 4th and also at 8 : 30 on March the. llth, 1980. GARY PAPPAS : Hello, my name is Gary Pappas with Pan-Tech Page 2 Public Hearing held 3/4/80 H.U.D. Small Cities Program Funds Application Management Corp. , who the Town commissioned to prepare the appli- cation that we are here to discuss tonight. I 'd like to start off by just giving a brief history, to bring everybody up to date and on exactly what the process has entailed. On August 7th of 1979 , a public hearing was held at the pre-application stage. The pre-application being what we .had to submit upon September 20th, at which time citizens' comments for proposals were taken. We . took those proposals- into consideration and we worked with the Town Board, and we drafted an application that was submitted to the United States Department of Housing and Urban Development on September 20th, 1979 also. The application at that time as the Town was .,informed by a notice to be for an amount of $400, 000 is what we applied for, the Town applied for. That $400, 000 was to compete against the total allocation of $2, 076 , 0'00. 00 accord- ing to the H.U.D. notice. Now the. Town ' s application included a number of items, program to upgrade the neighborhood just south of the Main, Road and just west of the Village of Greenport for $220, 000. The Town also wished to apply for the completion of the Senior Center, and that was included in the application in the amount of $60, 000. $50, 000 for the removal of architectural barriers at the libraries, largely to be able to comply with Federal Law, and $50, OOO in planning and administration, and a $20, 000 contingency line item, adding up to the $400, 000. The review process was held up a good six weeks by the Federal Government. The allocation as a result of holding this up because other allocations came- in from different, a different form of entitlement community, Suffolk County Corsortium was formed. And the main problem was that the $2 million total pool to compete against was reduced to just under $700, 000. With those kind of numbers, I 've notified the Town on February 6th that it had approved the $50, 000 item for the removal of architectural barriers. It said in that letter to the Town that they should submit a full application however for $150, 000, the other $100, 000 to be programmed for neighborhood improvement activities. Now to the original,.application. On the basis of that approval, the Town is required to' hold a couple of public hearings. This is the first. The second one would be on the llth, and we 're here to get public views on how the $50, 000 or the $150, 000, . whichever one becomes a reality, can be best implemented in terms how the public would like to see it spent. The $100, 000 that I mentioned, the Town will know officially whether or. not they will be availabl=e to program those funds on May 12th. They have to hold those funds at. the Federal level. Until they can determine whether or not a viable applica- tion for what they term an eminent threat to the public health and safety is filed. Now pending the review of those type of applications, the Town. would have available, definitely have available $50, 000, and may have available $100, 000. Now, I brought along some applications, not enough to go around to everyone that is here, six to be exact. Actually, what it is and anybody who wants to take a look at it, may, there are five for distribution. It ' s the total application that was filed, the preapplication actually that was filed with A.U.D. for the Page 3 Public Hearing held 3/4/80 H.U.D. Small Cities Program Funds Application $400, 000 , and there ' s a note attached to the front that explains the approval of the 50 with a back-up of the $100, 000. Part of this entire process is that the Town follow a plan for citizen participation. It ' s important that both the local and the Federal level citizens be involved in the process as much as possible. These are funds that come down to the Department of Housing and Urban Development, and are here- to be spent in a manner for a number of eligible activities taken into considera- tion with the others, as obviously your elected officials at the Town level having the final determination of what action goes in the application. The application process right now is at the stage of where we 're going to be filing a final applica- tion for $450, 000, and it has to be submitted to the H.U.D. by April lst. The final application has to detail how the $50, 000 for the removal of architectural barriers in the Town libraries will be expended, and it has to detail how the $100, 000 should it be available to neighborhood improvements in the neighborhood, I discussed before, how exactly that will be spent. The final application will entail as well as an assistance •plan. And as an assistance plan is basically a two-part plan to this type of application which states the Town' s housing units in terms of the housing needs of its low:_and moderate income residents and has a table for goals, how the Town feels at the local level those needs can best be addressed. And what we 're here today is to discuss what we can do for the final application. There has been some preliminary discussion on whether or not the removal of architectural barriers would be best met to the Town' s less mobile residents by expending the $50, 000 for all four libraries in the Town, or whether or not an essential facility could be located for the handicapped residents at the Mattituck Library. That ' s the kind of input we 're looking for here, as well as the neighborhood improvement program which could entail a number of different scenarios. In terms of input from the public on the neighborhood improvement program, there are a number of items in that overall package that the Town is flexible enough that it can choose what to pick from. They can program the funds for the repair of the streets in the neighborhood. They can program the funds to allow for outright grants depending on the individual homeowner ' s within that neighborhood' s income to repair their homes in terms of making them more energy efficient, and in terms of just upgrad- ing the neighborhood, improving drainage in the neighborhood was a priority of the Town' s and was included inihe applica- tion, and lighting in the neighborhood as well. The Town feels a need for fiscally and from a neighborhood-improvement point of view to try to convert a lot of its lighting, as much of its lighting as possible to energy conservation or high- intensity lights as opposed to what they have now, which aren't as energy-efficient. That ' s the kind of input we 're looking for from the public, and we 're ready to take any oral comments tonight. We will receive written comments on or before the next public hearing because we don't have a lot of time between the next public hearing and putting together the final applica- Page 4 Public Hearing held 3/4/80 H.U.D. Small Cities Program Funds Application tion package. WILLIAM S . GARDNER: When is the next public, hearing? MR, PAPPAS: The llth. SUPERVISOR PELL: 8 : 30 at night. MR. , PAPPAS: 8 :30 on the llth. MR. GARDNER: A week from now. MR. PAPPAS : Right.. ART TILLMAN: Can you tell me, what .-other , libraries, besides the Mattituck Library, have submitted preliminary applications? MR. PAPPAS : In the preliminary application, the four libraries were addressed. COUNCILMAN DRUM: Greenport, Southold, Cutchogue, Mattituck. MR. TILLMAN: No, I ' filled out a preliminary request as to how much money for the Mattituck Library-- MR. PAPPAS : You're Mattituck. MR: . TILLMAN: Can you tell me what other libraries did that? MR, PAPPAS : No other libraries did that. MR: GARDNER: Sure we did. , MR: PAPPAS : Not at that, public hearing. He' s talking about an itemized request for funds in terms of how much they needed and what it would be expended for. MR: GARDNER: What was this application that we put in? MR. PAPPAS: . In the application? MR, GARDNER: Yeah. MR, PAPPAS : Yes, I just said the four libraries were included in. tY1e preapplication. MR, GARDNER: Right. But who. put in the applications? MR, PAPPAS: We put it, the Town. put in the application. MR: GARDNER: Which libraries put in the application to your• application? Page 5 Public Hearing held 3/4/80 H.U.D. Small Cities Program Funds Application MR. PAPPAS : I received through the Town one formal res- ponse for the Mattituck Library. SUPERVISOR PELL: Do you have a copy of yours, Mr. Gardner? MR. GARDNER: What the hell would I put this in for then? MR. PAPPAS ; Well, this is what we are here now for, I mean, you're in as far as the Prer-application. All the libraries were included in the pre-application. Wait, let me look, Mr. Gardner. MR.. GARDNER: You have this copy. MR. PAPPAS : Ok, Mr. Gardner. This is just the kind of input We Wanted. It' s coming in a timely manner. I was apprised of this letter, I didn't receive a copy of- it. And I was apprised that the other libraries were as well interested, and that' s why they are 'all included in'L.the pre-application. MR. GARDNER: Who put in applications like that? MR. PAPPAS : You and Mattituck. MR. GARDNER: Right. Ok. 'MR. PAPPAS : My mistake. MR. TILLMAN: Was it itemized? MR. PAPPAS : No, there were no numbers given on that. MR. TILLMAN: Can I just take a look at that and see if it ' s the same form that we sent in. MR. PAPPAS : No, it wasn't on the form. It' s a letter and it' s done in a very thorough form. MR. GARDNER: It ' s- in a form. MR. PAPPAS : Right, you used a different format. MR. GARDNER: It ' s not a different form. It' s the form you gaze us. MR. PAPPAS : Right, I 'm saying different format from the Mattituck group. MR. GARDNER: We put the form in that you gave us. MR. PAPPAS : They are both in the proper format. MR. TILLMAN: Well, my question is that I had to come up Page 6 Public Hearing held 3/4/80 H.U.D. Small Cities Program Funds Application with an+itemized listing of what we thought we needed, which was, very difficult for me to do since I 'm not an architect. or a construction worker. MR.. PAPPAS : And it was extremely helpful, and it' s going to be the same thing that the Cutchogue Library will have to do as well when we move to actually funding any of the libraries who wish to participate in the funding. MR. TILLMAN: How detailed will that one-- MR. GARDNER: We gave you details. We didn't put money on it; but we gave you the things we wanted to do. MR. PAPPAS : Right. He detailed them out, he didn't itemize his costs. All will have to be itemized, of course, obviously before we let it;_out to bid and have the construction start on it. We have to know how much it' s going to cost. MR,_ TILLMAN: Mr. Pappas, I don't understand why I got a form where I had to come up with a.n.itemized list and the other libraries didn't. MR. - PAPPAS : Well, we requested an itemized list. He didn't put down the costs. We requested that if possible the libraries cost out the items on their list. You responded to that request. We appreciate that. MR. TILLMAN: Ok. So how many libraries now are requesting funds? MR. GARDNER: I am. MR. TILLMAN: Is Southold? MR. GARDNER: I don 't know. MR. PAPPAS : And Greenport is the fourth. We haven 't received anything in writing or orally that I am aware of from Greenport. I don 't know what came into the Supervisor ' s Office. MR. TILLMAN: Well, I do have a letter here from Greenport requesting us to, because of the physical barriers that exist within their building. SUPERVISOR PELL: Read it into the record. MR. TILLMAN: This is from W. Perry Hukill, President of the Floyd Memorial Library and it' s dated February 5, 1979. " . . .We are writing to request your cooperation in connection with the Floyd Memorial Library' s compliance with Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973 . Since our main floor is Page 7 Public Hearing held 3/4/80 H.U.D. .Small Cities Program Funds Application five foot above ground level and our washroom is about four foot below ground, we would have to build two ramps and/or make many other very costly construction changes which would be physically and financially quite impractical. There is however a provision in the act that permits compliance by referring handicapped patrons to other providers of similar services that are acces- sible . This is, of course, contingent upon the willingness of the other provider to accept such referrals along with their own such handicapped patrons. To our knowledge we have had only one request or criticism of the inaccessibility of our facility. This came from an arthritic patron who had difficulty with our steps, so it is most unlikely that we would refer many people to your library. Will you please give this matter you consider- ation and advise whether you are willing to permit us to use this provision of the Act. Your help will be very much appreciated. . . . " I hope I didn't, now this was. before we knew Federal Funds were coming. Since they are not here tonight I assume that they want us to service their handicapped although I can't speak for them. I also have a second letter frcam them again, stating" . . .your assurance of help for handicapped patrons referred by us in accordance with your resolution was very much appreciated. " SUPERVISOR PELL: What' s the date? MR. TILLMAN: January 20th, 1980. MR: TILLMAN: " . . .We fully understand your contingency reservation and sincerely trust that the grant to which you refer may be forthcoming. Thank you again for whatever help you may be able to extend. W. Perry Hukill. . . . " All we did was pass a resolution in our Board approving our servicing of Greenport ' s residents. MR. PAPPAS : Ok, I 'm familiar with that provision of that law. As long as the Greenport library has less than 15 employees it may have no problem with allowing another library to service their handicapped clients . The Suffolk County Cooperative Library System feels that it would be an appropriate mechanism as well. That ' s what we 're here to really firm up tonight. Now it looks like we 're taking a direction whereby you've got $50, 000, and three libraries wish to address the rule of architectural barriers, we 've got $50, 000 . And the next step is to open communications with the three libraries and program on exactly how those funds will be expended. MR. TILLMAN: I know my coll-ea_gueg from the other two libraries probably aren't going to agree with what I have to say, but because there was little or no communication regard- ing what you fellows were going to do, you know, when you were going to try to put your ramps in and whatever else was necessary, we assumed that the other two libraries, well I Page 8 Public Hearing held 3/4/80 H.U.D. Small Cities Program Funds Application will say the Cutchogue Library and we didn't know about the Southold Library, because of .this provision were going to ask us to service your handicapped. But evidently you don 't desire that now. MR. GARDNER: (Nodded negatively. ) MR. TILLMAN: It just seems from our point of view,_�T,,7e 're putting on an extension, we have , a building that ' s already being used by handicapped from all over the Town,, what we were going to try to do is develop a regional center for the handicapped and make it as accessible and as comfortable as. possible. We 're trying to get a reading machine in there for the blind, and rather than divert the $50, 000 and spread it out amongst three or four libraries, we felt if _you could put it into one regional center, more could be done for the handicapped. MR. PAPPAS: It ' s obvious from reading the law that it is something that could be done but not without the consent of the other libraries that were included in the preapplication. This is something that will have to be worked out locally and the other libraries , they do have architectural barriers. If they wish to address those architectural barriers for the clients within their library district, that ' s basically their option. Locally the request would have to come in from the Town Board to centralize the library facilities, and I really don 't see how you could do that without the consent of the other three libraries. MR. TILLMAN: The thing that bothers me is that had we cooperated on this, had these applications been before you, we could have applied for more than $50, 000. There was. no limit on what we could have applied for. MR. PAPPAS : Well, the limit is on-that there was a limit on $400 , 000 in total funding for the program and not just for the removal of architectural barriers, and that' s ultimately a Town Board decision. The removal of architectural barriers is obviously a priority for the Town, but there are other items in the application, and the Town Board in its wisdom decided to bid be up to $400, 000 as it did with its application. Maybe, you know, $50, 000 was a sizable chunk out of the $400, 000, whether or not they wanted to exceed that for that specific activity is something that would not have been ineligible at the Federal level but it might not have been a local priority. You should have lobbied for that at the pre-application stage and worked with the Town Board saying you didn't feel that was enough money. SUPERVISOR PELL: At the time we put it in, we picked $50, 000, to be honest with you, right out of the air. We figured four libraries, ramps , doors, bathrooms, and we had Page 9 Public Hearing held 3/4/80 H.U.D.-Small Cities Program Funds..Application other things, like we wanted to put more into other areas but yet we wanted to try to divvy it up. That ' s. how we came to the $400, 000. We just pulled it out of the air, and we figured we would go from there . MR. PAPPAS : There are tough decisions to make with the limited money. There-' s a good strong proposal in from Fishers Island, the people who run the Ferry System out there for improving their airport, and the Town wanted to see those funds. go for that as well and that they just couldn't be spread that thin. SUPERVISOR PELL: They turned that down. MR. PAPPAS : And that wasn't even included at all. And at the same token, the $11,.330 itemized list that you put in is not outside the realm of the $50, 000 in terms of giving up the funds . MR.. TILLMAN: Well, our feeling in Mattituck, as I speak for my Board, is rather than take $50, 000 and spread it out and build a couple of ramps here and a couple of ramps there, why .can't we take that $50, 000 and put it into one location and really make something of it? MR. PAPPAS : It' s in the record., and it' s a good point, and it should be taken COUNCILMAN DRUM: I think the other libraries should be contacted. Whether it' s. they serve a_ community or their community throughout the township. RENSSELAER- TERRY: I think as far as the people of Southold are concerned, I don't.tllink a handicapped person should be required to go all the way to Mattituck or to Greenport. or to Cutchogue to get the benefit of the facilities that are there. I realize that they. have a„ much better looking library than we have and much more accessible from being on the ground level, but on the other hand, we have had just this winter to make some temporary accommodations, by way of ramp, because of the fact that our librarian had suffered injuries and had to get around in a wheelchair. We had to have an experimental ramp placed, and it ' s obvious to me we should make these improvements in an attempt to. have substantial compliance with the act, I mean, I think that was the intention of the act, that each community which has a library should attempt to comply to give the handicapped persons the access which the act that indicates they should have. And, well, I won't deny that maybe the time is coming when we will have just one central library in the Town. That 's not the case at present. We have five libraries in the Town, and I. mean we 're not a big municipal operation. We 're just a small- country library, Page 10 Public Hearing held 3/4/80 H.U.D. Small Cities Program Funds Application but we 're trying to service our community and we feel that we can do this, with the small amount of funds . And while I sympathize with Mattituck' s program, and I think it' s a great thing that they have a night library there, and .with their expansion it, will be great, but I don 't feel that the people in Southold or the handicapped people should be forced to travel that distance. The trouble with this area is that we 're just a long narrow geographical strip and if a person is handicapped, it aggravates the handicapped to make him travel that distance. If you want them to travel, you can say, well you .-travel all the way to the system in Bellport and they've got any number of facilities there. So, Southold' s standpoint is we would like to be able to make some compliance with the provisions of the Statute unless it can be shown that we can't possibly do that. We would like your consideration. MR. PAPPAS : We 're just .going to pass this sheet around as an attendance sheet. I 'm sorry, what' s your name? MR. TILLMAN: Art Tillman. MR. PAPPAS : Right, I talked to you on the phone. Now, primarily these funds are to provide basic access to a. library. A ramp to get into the library, utilization of the bathroom facilities and fountains in the libraries, fairly basic. things. What you 're speaking of in terms of the Mattituck Library seems to be desired on the Mattituck Library ' s part to go beyond just the basic compliance with the law. And to above and beyond what you are inquiring into. Now, you men- tioned a reading machine, which I know is fairly expensive. MR. TILLMAN: I didn 't anticipate that coming out of this. MR. PAPPAS : Well, I 'm saying using that as an example, $50, 000 is there. It is programmed from the Town, as you mentioned we kind of pulled the figure out of the air, well we also assumed that it would be enough to take your basic, in terms of making every library district have a library that is at least acceptable to the handicapped. Now, come the late summer, July, August, September, it appears to be the Town' s intention to submit yet another application on the same source of funds. Now the things that you're talking about are eligible to be addressed at that time, and you know maybe indeed there is , you know, and there is a lot to be said for a library once being beyond just basic compliance and be a central facility. But there 's also a gentleman who had - pointed that every library being access-ible. is very worthy, and you know, whether it be one, two or fifteen people to- travel from Cutchogue to Mattituck, may not be all that easy for him as an individual. MR. TILLMAN: I agree with Mr. Terry one-hundred percent of what he just said, it was just a lack of communication over Page 11 Public Hearing held 3/4/80 H.U.D. Small Cities Program Funds Application these months and the failure to apply for preliminary requests that sort of led us astray, we just thought that their barriers were so formidable that they weren't going to do anything about it, and assumed that at least two of them we would take over. But .if they want to build their ramps, we can't argue against that. Their people should be serviced, too. MR. PAPPAS : Ok, like I said by the same token what you want to do with the Mattituck Library is commendable and it' s something maybe we can help out with in the subsequent appli- cation, in July or August. Closer to August or September. TONY DINIZIO: Excuse me, all this money they are talking about for the libraries, is this all under this application that you filed now? MR. PAPPAS : Yes. MR. DINIZIO: Now, you said they filed for $400, 000, right? Now it ' s between $50, 000 and $100, 000 that they are going to receive. SUPERVISOR: $50, 000 for sure into the libraries. That was approved-on May 12th they might approve an additional $100, 000 for Southold Town. There are $200, 000 left in the kitty to speak. MR. DINIZIO: In the kitty. SUPERVISOR: Carmel, New York .is slated for $100, 000 . Southold Town. is slated for the other. The only thing that would get in our way is if eminent domain happens somewhere and they have to take- that $200, 000 or any part thereof and bail some emergency situation out, then we could lose part of it or all of it. I do know, it was told that the Village of Greenport is going to put in for this $200, 000 for a water problem. If they are going to be successful to get, we only have to wait until May 12th to find out. MR. DINIZIO: 'Do we have to file some application to what this money could be used for in the area, in a certain area? SUPERVISOR: It has already been filed for and to be spent down in your area. MR. DINIZIO: On what? SUPERVISOR: This is what we are here tonight to discuss, what you would want. MR. PAPPAS : You do have several kinds of funds. The application programmed $220, 000 for that area for certain items. Page 12 Public Hearing held 3/4/80 H.U.D. Small Cities Program Funds Application Many of those items can still be done in there but only to the maximum of $100, 000 because of the level put on the approval. There is a program that is typical to these grant programs for homeowners in a neighborhood such as yours it' s been defined to receive home-improvement monies. Monies to repair their homes, upgrade their homes, with emphasis on initially taking care of any. kind of faulty wiring or plumb- ing. Second, emphasis is normally placed on energy-conserva- tion measures : insulation, windows, new roof if it needs a new roof. That would be a program in and of itself, a home repair program for the neighborhood. And also because we had a level of $220, 000 for the neighborhood we could also program some funds for the repair of some of the streets down there, Front Street is unpaved and it' s a bad prol?lem, you know, when it rains. you live down there. You must know. And drainage throughout that neighborhood is a problem. And drainage was-. put in there. MR. DINIZIO: Yeah, I know. MR. PAPPAS: It ' s a big problem. SUPERVISOR PELL: It is a big problem. MR. PAPPAS : Those are the types of items. And street lighting was also put in there to improve the street lighting in the neighborhood. SUPERVISOR PELL: What would you say would be your priority? MR. DINIZIO: Can any of this money be used to clean the area up, the old buildings that are just sitting there rotting? MR. PAPPAS : Yes . MR. DINIZIO: There 's three of them down there. MR. PAPPAS : Exactly where are you speaking about? MR. DINIZIO: One on the corner of Linnett and Seventh, one on Seventh Street, and one on Brown Street. MR. PAPPAS : Right. SUPERVISOR PELL: Flint. MR. DINIZIO: Linnett, SUPERVISOR DELI Flint is unpaved but it' s also not a Town Road yet. MR. PAPPAS : Yeah, the application included one of them. Page 13 Public Hearing held 3/4/80 H.U.D. Small Cities Program Funds Application The neighborhood improvement program was broken down, and there were funds ,programmed in the pre-application for the demolition of sub-standard vacant structures. So some money could be used for that as, well. PAUL DINIZIO: There' s one that ' s listed here, but -- MR. PAPPAS : It 's not in the spot -- PAUL DI.NIZIO: It says, according to this thing there;--Sound- MR. PAPPAS : Well, I 'll tell you, the survey was put together when we were under some time constraints. It ..was my field survey, I went 'down there and I don't doubt there are other areas in there, too. PAUL DINIZIO: I mean,.. this one is listed as Sound, and there's nothing there but a pile of junk, you know. MR. PAPPAS : It was just an error on my part, directly; I 'm responsible for that map; that was just to give it an indication to the'F;cderal Government that the area did deserve some funds to take care of some of its housing needs in that area. And the total accuracy, the detailed accuracy of. it waasn't all that important. SUPERVISOR PELL: If we are successful in this $100 , 000 grant, we want to, see where we can get the most out of this money in other words. Whether. it ' s taking tractor trailers there and cleaning that mess up, or fixing a couple of those homes, or putting in drainage. what we want are priorities , and what we are thinking is the most for the dollar. MR. PAPPAS : Anything you can submit to .the Town, to the Supervisor ' s Office, or the Town Clerk should be in by March 11 . We do have to file; we file April lst. We have to include how we are going to spend that $100, 000 in the neighborhood in that April lst application. They have told us to do that, so, in case the funds are there, they will be available much sooner. SUPERVISOR PELL: What I want is a priority list. MR. TILLMAN: When will we get the funds? MR. PAPPAS: The funds will probably become available right about the same time, probably not until August. When they get the application on April lst, they take about a 75-day review period when they look over the application and pull it apart and then the funds become available. So we 're talking at the end of the summer. MR. TILLMAN: Mr. Pappas , where do we go from here regarding this library plan; specifically, we are in the process now where Page 14 Public Hearing held 3/4/80 H.U.D. Small Cities Program Funds Application we want to send out bids, and it ' s kind of contingent upon-some of the things we are going to do are contingent upon how much money We ,are going to get. MR. PAPPAS : Well, I have your number. I 've got the letter from the Cutchogue Library. And it will be through the Super- visor ' s Office we will be getting in touch with you. We will be setting up a pre-construction conference of thoughts . Tell you exactly what we need to go ahead with the program and these funds. But like I just said, they are not going to become available to be spent until August. All right? So we do have �gome. time i\n - front of us, so where in the coming weeks you can expect to be contacted by us through the Supervisor' s Office. 1JR, TLLMAN; So everything has to be submitted by April lst? MR. PAPPAS : The final application has to be in by April 1st, not necessarily the detailed specifications of exactly what you may want to do. MR. TILLMAN: What do you need from us before the lst of April? MR. TILLMAN: By the first of April we 're going to have to get a good idea of how much money is going to be allocated to each library district basically. MR. STEARNS : We submit to the Town, _ and the Town decides from there _.how much each will get. MR. PAPPAS : Right. Well they are going to have to decide in terms of needs and population served, or then they can allocate the $50, 000 for each library district. There will have to be engineers, for the engineering and the design as well as the actual construction. So those are the kind of numbers we are going to have together. I ' ll give you a call; we have your number, it ' s in here. And I ' ll be in touch with the other library districts, and I ' ll give you very specifically what exactly we need in terms of the final application. And yours were approved already, so. SUPERVISOR PELL: From the libraries in Southold and Cutchogue, do you need a dollar and cents figure from them what they anticipate their costs to be? MR. PAPPAS : To the best of their ability, if they can come up with cost estimate the same as last time, it would be helpful. If not, we 've got what the Cutchogue Library wants to have done; we ' ll be costing that out. And a minimum from the Southold Library, if you can't get us the cost estimate at least, exactly what you had in mind to be done. Now, we at Page 15 Public Hearing held 3/4/80 H.U.D. Small Cities. Program Funds Application Pan-Tech have had experience. We 've been doing this for the libraries. in - the Town of Babylon and in the Town of Oyster Bay. Now, at your request, we can come out with an experienced contractor in the field of architectural barriers. He ' ll let you know exactly what you have to do to comply with the law and give you a good idea in terms of what the cost of these items are. And they're all right here in the market area. It ' s a growing field because the law requires compli- ance by June of 1980, so the industry is booming in terms of putting in and designing the ramps -a:ccording to Federal specifications. Now, the Supervisor has my number. I 'm sure I can get yours from him. If you want to get in touch with us, you should get in touch with us through the Super- visor ' s Office. Let him know that you wanted me to get in touch with you. Ok, it will be out of your convenience. They'll take .a look at the library and see exactly how it can best be done. SUPERVISOR PELL: May I suggest, next time, Gary, if the meeting is at half past 8 , if you could get out here at half past 7, and we 're going to have a Town Board .meeting, perhaps you could sit down with the library people and go over some of the rough draft, of what you want ahead time. Can you all be here at half past 7 next week? MR. GARDNER: When is that? Next Tuesday? SUPERVISOR PELL: A week from today. And Gary;you can be here at half past 7? You can use the board room and go over it in detail among yourselves when we are having the board meeting here. You' ll have to get some of. it ironed out. MR. GARDNER: That' s at 7 : 30, be .here? SUPERVISOR PELL: 7 :30 I would suggest. Then we have the official hearing at half past 8 , at night. Maybe we can get some things worked out prior to that. MR. TILLMAN: When will you meet with us? MR. PAPPAS : Basically, let' s see now, what if I give you a call? We ' ll give you a call and take a look. SUPERVISOR PELL: And Tony, you're going to make up a priority for your neighborhood? Get as many names signed as you can. TONY DINIZIO: Ok. SUPERVISOR PELL: Have we covered everything? MR. PAPPAS : That ' s it. Page 16 Public Hearing held 3/4/80 H.U.D. Small Cities Program Funds Application SUPERVISOR PELL: We thank you for coming out. We' ll seb you mext week. Oh, wait a minute. Wait a minute, one more question. JAMES LOUGHLIN: In consideration of this rehabilitation to the area, will the Town of Southold be re q%iired to change its zoning restrictions in any way? MR: PAPPAS : Not at all. SUPERVISOR PELL: Not at all . MR. PAPPAS : It doesn 't affect it at all . Nobody could ever require the Town to change its zoning. ' SUPERVISOR PELL: Thank you. The hearing was declared closed at 8 :27 P.M. Respectfully submitted, Linda F. Kowalski Sri E3l1�/�v HOUR Town Clerk, Town of Soat old