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HomeMy WebLinkAboutTB-01/23/1996 SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD JANUARY 23, 1996 WORK SESSION Present: Supervisor Jean W. Cochran, Councilwoman Alice J. Hussie, Councilman Joseph L. Townsend, Jr. ,.. Councilwoman Ruth D. Oliva, Justice Louisa P. Evans, Councilman William D. Moore, Town Clerk Judith T. Terry, Town Attorney Laury L. Dowd. 9: 10 A.M. - Planning Board Chairman Richard Ward and Planner Valerie Scopaz met with the Town Board to review 1995 planning activities and present recommended priorities for 1996. This report is' on file in the Town Clerk's office. 9:35 A.M. - Data Control Supervisor Jeanne Ruland, Jerry Schultheis of Bowne Management Systems, and Senior Accountant John Cushman met with the Board to discuss the proposed , Capital. , Project for the Computer System ' Upgrade. The proposed 1996 schedule was reviewed, and at the conclusion of the presentation, a resolution (18) was. placed 'on the agenda to establish the Capital Project, to be financed through serial bonds, and the required budget to cover the upgrade. 10:00 A.M. - Vincent Annabel and his son Robert Annabel, and Mr. 8 Mrs. Paul Galgan met with the Town Board to discuss Mr. Annabel's request to renew the trailer permit for the trailer .on the property owned by Mr. Annabel, his brother Raymond, and sister Mildred ' Kiernan at -4633 Stillwater Avenue, Cutchogue. Mr. Annabel made a presentation, requesting the Board to renew the permit for the trailer. He 'said there has been a trailer on the property since before zoning. Mr. Galgan made his presentation, requesting the Board to deny the trailer permit renewal, and submitted a petition with eight names supporting his request, and a letter from Marion R. King, Real Estate Broker, stating that potential buyers of Mr. Galgan's property are turned ,off by the trailer. Helen Jones, Realtor for First Town Realty, who was in the audience, said the trailer is affecting the value of properties on both sides. The Town Board agreed they would investigate the situation further and discuss it again at the February 6th work session. EXECUTIVE SESSION - 10:40 A.M. On motion of Justice Evans, seconded by Councilwoman Oliva, it was Resolved that the Town Board enter into Executive Session to meet with Special Counsel Frank Yakaboski concerning the Cross Sound Ferry litigation, and following their meeting with Mr. Yakaboski they will meet with Alan Schneider, Personnel Officer of the Suffolk County Department of. Civil Service, to discuss police hiring. Vote of, the Board: Ayes: Supervisor Cochran, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Oliva, Justice Evans, Councilman Moore. Also present during this discussion was Chief of Police Droskoski and Senior Accountant Cushman. 12: 10 P.M. - The Town Board met with Tom Maher, Vice President of Dvirka E Bartilucci Consulting Engineers, and Jack Romeril, member of the Solid Waste Task Force Technical Advisory Committee, to discuss Southold Landfill Closure Investigation and preparation of the Closure Investigation Report. Mr. Maher explained the reasons for the increase ' in cost for the investigation and report in his letter of December 14, 1995, as compared to his previous letter of October 4, 1994, due mainly to the increase in the number of wells, and sample analysis cost. Mr. Maher reviewed the status ' of the Landfill and Landfill related issues and action items. The Board discussed the possibility of going out for RFP's for the next steps in the Landfill closure plan, but did not reach a decision. 1 :00 P.M. - Recess for lunch. JANUARY 23, 1996 153 EXECUTIVE SESSION - 1 :45 P.M. On motion of Justice Evans, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was Resolved that the Town Board enter into Executive Session to meet with Special Counsel Peter Bee to discuss Police Hiring/Litigation. Vote of the Board: Ayes: Supervisor Cochran, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Oliva, Justice Evans, Councilman Moore. Also present: Town Clerk Terry, Town Attorney Dowd. 2:55 P.M. - Town Board agreed to the appointment of Frederick A. Lee (resolution 20) to the Land Preservation Committee.---Due to the lack of time, placed the discussion of committees on the February 22nd work session agenda.---Placed on hold a discussion on the installation of •a street light on Aldrich Lane, whereas Superintendent of Highways Jacobs advised that the homeowner is putting up their own light, and we will wait, to see how it works out.---Placed a resolution (21) on the agenda to .establish the Vault Monitoring System Capital Project.----Councilwoman Oliva reported to the Board on her evaluation of the Draft Environmental Impact Statement relating to the proposed Finfish Aquaculture Project for the Production of Summer Flounder, as proposed by - Mariculture Technologies, Inc. The hatchery site is on a•15 acre parcel owned by the Village of Greenport at Clark's Beach, and a two acre adjoining site owned by the County of Suffolk. Both are within the Town of Southold. Councilwoman Oliva submitted a report stating the proposal is not consistent with the Town's comprehensive plan. It needs a coastal erosion permit from the Trustees and a variance from the ZBA. The hatchery needs to drill a salt-water well, and will need about 23 million gallons a day. These are just a few of the questionable .implications .of the proposal. Also present during this discussion was Planner Valerie Scopaz who said the Planning Board will be meeting with the applicant, and prior to that meeting a copy of Councilwoman Oliva's report will be sent to them. 3: 15 P.M. - Councilwoman Hussie and Solid Waste Coordinator Jim Bunchuck discussed with the Board the status of the Solid Waste Transfer Station permit. The Town has seven options open to them, but agreed on Option G, which is to apply for a renewal of the one-year temporary permit, design and build improvements to current transfer station to address existing shortcomings and accommodate future growth, and seek a full Part 360 Operating Permit for the modified transfer station when completed. The next step is to submit to the DEC a completed application and Full Environmental Assessment Form. The Town Attorney will obtain a price from Charles Voorhis E Associates, the Town's Environmental Consultants, for the preparation of the Full EAF. 3:45 P.M. - The Board reviewed the resolutions to be voted on at the 4:30 P.M. Regular Meeting. 3:55 P.M. - Work Session adjourned. REGULAR. MEETING A Regular Meeting of the Southold Town Board was held on January 23, 1996, at the Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York. Supervisor Cochran opened the meeting at 4:30 P.M. with the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag. Present: Supervisor Jean W. Cochran Councilwoman Alice J. Hussie Councilman Joseph L. Townsend, Jr. Councilwoman Ruth D. Oliva Justice Louisa P. Evans Councilman William D. Moore Town Clerk Judith T. Terry Town Attorney Laury L. Dowd 154 JANUARY 23, 1996 Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Justice Evans, it was RESOLVED that the following bills be and hereby ordered paid: General Fund Whole Town bills in the amount of $74,462.58; General Fund Part Town bills in the amount of $73,126.89; Community Development Fund bills in the amount of $7,000.00; Highway Fund Whole Fund bills in the amount of $27,359.67; Highway Fund Part Town bills in the amount of $19,480.83; Fishers Island Dump Capital bills in the amount of $279.85; Employee Health Benefit Plan bills in the amount of $42,690.01; Fishers Island Ferry District bills in the amount of $60,758.41; Refuse & Garbage District bills in the amount of $59,560.50; Southold Wastewater District bills in the amount of $579.00; Fishers Island Sewer District bills in the amount of $1,181 .82; Fishers Island Ferry District bills in the amount of- $597.89. . Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Approval of the minutes of January 10, 1996, Town Board meeting. Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilwoman Oliva, it was RESOLVED that the minutes of the January 10, 1996, regular Town Board meeting be and hereby are approved. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. Moved by Councilwoman Oliva, seconded by Councilman Townsend, it was RESOLVED that the next regular meeting of the Southold Town Board will be held at 7:30 P.M., Tuesday, February 6, 1996, at the Southold Town Hall, 'Southold, New York. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED.: I . REPORTS. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Your agenda shows the reports, that have been placed on filed with' the Town Clerk's Office. Are there any questions in relation to the reports? (No response.) 1 . Lawrence Healthcare Town Benefit Report for December, 1995. 2. Lawrence Healthcare PBA Benefit Report for December, 1995. 3. Southold Town Building Department Annual Report for 1995. 4. Southold Town Justice Evans' Monthly Court Report for December, 1995. 5. Southold Town Justice Price's Monthly Court Report for December, 1995. 6. Southold Town Animal Shelter Monthly Report for November, 1995. 7. Southold Town Police Department Monthly Report for December, 1995. JANUA.RY 23, 1996 II . PUBLIC NOTICES. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: We have a public notice for the New York State DEC for an aquaculture operation. 1 . New York State Department of Environmental Conservation, Notice of a proposed aquaculture operation involving the culture of shellfish on underwater land in Gardiners' Bay, Southold Town, New York. Ill . COMMUNICATIONS. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Under communications we have a letter from the Secretary of State Alexander Treadwell to . Supervisor Cochran reads Local Waterfront Revitalization Program, and they're expressing their interest in, continuing the 'work with the Town of Southold. We also have a letter from the property owners in Southwood, from the Association President George Small to Highway Superintendent thanking him for the job well done during the snow storm. 1 . Secretary of ' State Alexander F. Treadwell to Supervisor Cochran stating their interest in continuation of the development, adoption, and implementation of the Local Waterfront Revitalization Program. 2. George S. Small, President of the Southwood Property Owners Association, Inc., thanking Superintendent of Highways Raymond Jacobs for the excellent job his department did during the blizzard in their community. IV. PUBLIC HEARINGS. 1 . 5:00 P.M., in regard to the Acquisition of development rights of the properties of John J. Koroleski, and William H. Heins. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Under Discussion you can see the different items, that the Town Board had a .long work session today. We had about fifteen minutes for lunch. We ate out turkey sandwiches while we had one of our closed sessions, our Executive Sessions with one of our Attorneys on a matter. So, it's been a full day. V. RESOLUTIONS. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: In relation to resolutions, if there is anyone that would like to speak to any resolution, that is listed on the Town Board agenda, you have the opportunity to do so now. Anyone in the audience, who would like to speak in relation to the resolutions? (No response.) Hearing none, we will continue with the resolutions. 1 .- Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Justice Evans, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby amends Resolution No. 23, Adopted on January 2, 1996, to correct the salary of School Crossing Guard Frank Lyburt from $23.39 per day to $31 .58 per day. 1 -- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED'. 2•- SUPERVISOR'S APPOINTMENT Supervisor Jean W. Cochran hereby appoints Patricia D. Garsik as her Confidential Secretary, effective February 8, 1996 through December 31, 1996. JANUARY 23, 1996 3.- Moved by Supervisor Cochran, seconded by Councilwoman, Oliva, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board hereby sets the salary of Patricia D. Carsik, Confidential Secretary to the Supervisor, at $26,000.00 per annum for the period of February 8, 1996 through December 31, 1996. 3.- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. 4.- Moved by Councilwoman Oliva, seconded by Councilman Moore, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town. of Southold hereby reappoints and appoints' the following individuals to the Parks, Beaches & Recreation Committee, for a one year term, effective January 23, 1996 through January 23, 1997. ' Supervisor Jean W. Cochran, Chairperson Superintendent of Highways Raymond L. Jacobs Executive Assistant James C. McMahon Recreation Supervisor Kenneth Reeves Councilwoman 'Ruth D. Oliva Margaret Murphy Richard Hilary Planning Board member Landscape Architect Timothy Rumph 4.- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. 5.- Moved by .Justice Evans, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby requests the New York State Department of Transportation to conduct a traffic study at the intersection of New York State Route 25 and Factory Avenue, Mattituck, for the purpose of installing a traffic light. 5.- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. 6.- Moved by Councilman Moore, seconded by Councilwoman Oliva, it was RESOLVED that the Town , Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and" directs Supervisor Jean W. Cochran to execute a contract between the Town of Southold and the Board of Elections for use of the Southold Town Recreation Center as a. Polling Place for 1996 and 1997, all in accordance with the approval of the Town Attorney. 6•- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. 7.- Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Councilwoman : Oliva, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes an advance fee check in the amount of $585.00 (45 tickets at $13.00 each) for the. Saturday; May 11, 1996 New York Mets game; said charge . to made to A7020.4.500.420, Youth Program Instructors, check made payable to the NYS Mets. 7•- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. .<.: . .I`ANUARY 23, 1996 8.- Moved by Councilwoman Oliva, ..seconded by Justice Evans, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the General Fund Part Town 1995 Budget to appropriate the New York State grants for the Erosion and Harbor Management Plan contracts with Allee, King, Rosen E Fleming, Inc. : Revenues• B.3989.00 State Aid Harbor & Erosion Management Plan $ 49,884.50 Appropriations: B.8020.4.500.500 Planning, Contractual Expenses $ 49,884.50 Planning Consultants COUNCILWOMAN OLIVA: This is at no cost to the Town. 8•- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. 9.- Moved by Justice Evans, seconded Councilwoman Oliva, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the General Fund Whole Town 1996 Budget to provide for the purchase of additional walk-in tax receipts, as the supply furnished by Suffolk County has been depleted: To: A.1680.4.100.150 Central Data Processing $ 375.00 Computer Paper From: A.1680.4.400.55 Central Data Processing $ 375:00 Tax Collection Maintenance 9-- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly.ADOPTED. 10.- Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Justice Evans, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants permission to Data Control Supervisor Jeanne Ruland and Data Equipment Operator Mark Gajowski to attend the Microsoft Strategic Product Briefing, at the Long Island Association Conference Center, Commack, N.Y., on Monday, January 29, 1996, from 8:30 A.M. to 5:00 P.M., and mileage reimbursement and lunch shall be a legal charge to the 1996 Central Data Processing Budget. Permission was previously granted to attend this briefing on January 9., 1996, but it was postponed due to weather conditions. 10.- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Supervisor Cochran. . This resolution was duly ADOPTED. 11 .- Moved by Justice Evans, seconded. by Councilwoman Oliva, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs Supervisor Jean .. W. Cochran to execute an agreement between the Town of Southold and Jim Mikelbank, who will provide a Youth Basketball Program during the Winter 1996 Recreation season; said agreement all .in .accordance with the approval of the Town Attorney. 11 .- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman' Oliva, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. 12 .- Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Councilwoman Oliva, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs Supervisor Jean W. Cochran to execute Amendment No. 1 to the lease agreement between the Town of Southold and SMART SMR of New York, Inc., d/b/a Nextel Communications, for the lease of space on the Town's communications. tower in Peconic, to extend the commencement date, . all in accordance with the approval of the Town Attorney. 1.5S JANUARY 23, 1996 12.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED.. 13•-Moved by Councilwoman Oliva, seconded by Councilman Moore, it was RESOLVED that .the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the resignation of Patricia D. Garsik, part-time Data Entry Operator for the Southold Town Police Department, effective February 7, 1996. 13.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. 14.- Moved by Councilman Moore, seconded' by Justice Evans, it .was WHEREAS, subsequent to the retirement of James D. Lemerlin, the Board of Commissioners of the Fishers Island Ferry District now wishes to realign the position to include both freight agent and vessel purser duties, said position to be shared by Victoria Orr-Novak and David C. Bennett, and to make said position a salaried position; now, therefore, be it RESOLVED that Victoria Orr-Novak's employment status be changed to that of a salaried employee at a salary of $23,700.00 per annum, effective January 4, 1996, and that David C. Bennett be employed as a full-time employee at a salary of $23;000.00 per annum, effective February 1, 1996. 14.- Vote of the Town Board:. Ayes: Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. 15.- Moved .by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilwoman Oliva, WHEREAS, the Board of Commissioners of the Fishers Island Ferry District .wishes to change the employment status of Frederick C. Barrett Jr. from Deck Hand to Ferry Captain; and WHEREAS, Frederick. C. Barrett Jr. possesses the requisite licenses, qualifications, experience, and training, and is considered competent to serve as a Captain of the District's vessels; now, therefore, be it RESOLVED that effective January 18, 1996 Frederick C. Barrett be employed as a Ferry Captain at an hourly rate equal to that paid to other Ferry .Captains, $16.40 per hour. 15•- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. 16.- Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilwoman Oliva, WHEREAS, ' the Board of Commissioners, -of the Fishers Island Ferry District wish to grant incremental salary increases to all full-time personnel, which increases are one year in arrears in accordance with the CSEA contract in effect for Southold Town employees for 1995; now, therefore, be it RESOLVED that the Town Town Board hereby grants the following full-time personnel 4% salary - increases retroactive to January 1, 1996: Frederick C. Barrett, Charles Burgess, Stephen Burke, Mark Easter, Eugene Henson, Richard Hoch, Robert Knauff, Edward Moore, Kevin Moroney, lone Norton, Victoria Orr-Novak, Kenneth Ricker, John Stanford. 16.- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman' Oliva, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. JANUARY 23, 1996 159 17.- Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Justice Evans, it was _ RESOLVED that . the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs the Town Clerk to advertise for resumes for an EISEP Aide (Expanded In-Home Services for the Elderly Program), 17-1/2 hours per week, .$6.00 per hour. 17.- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. 18.- Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Councilwoman Oliva, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the establishment of the following Capital Project, effective immediately: Capital Project Name: Computer System Upgrade Financing Method: Serial Bonds Budget: Revenues: H.5710:10 Serial Bond Proceeds $445,000.00 Appropriations Central Data Processing, Capital Outlay, Other Equipment H.1680.2.500.400 AS/400 Upgrade $ 99,500.00 H.1680.2.500.410 Geographic Information Sys. 67,600.00 H.1680,2.500.420 Programming/Education 79,700.00 H.1680.2.500.430 PC Equipment/Software 184,690.00 H.1990.2.000 000 Contingencies 13,510.00 COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Maybe you want to describe that, Jean, since it's a major amount. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: It is a major amount. As you know the Board has been working for some , time on upgrading the computer system in Town Hall. It's a much needed thing. It's been spread over the Budget. It will cover a three year period, so that it's not felt all in one year. In a Capital Budget one of the first things we have is establish the Capital Budget, so that we can continue, and begin the work on upgrading the system. 18.- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. 19.- Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Councilman Moore, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the General Fund Whole Town 1996 Budget as follows: Ts: A.1010.4.100.125 Town Board Code Updates&Law Books 250 A.1010.4.500.200 Town Board Labor Relations 4000 A.1010.4.500.400 Town Board Medical Consultant 400 A.1110.4.100.100 Justices Office Supplies/Stationary 200 A.1110.4.100.200 Justices Law Books 100 A.1110.4.200,400 Justices Water 35 A.1110.4.600.300 Justices Travel Reimbursement 500 A.1110.4.600.700 Justices Jury Meals 50 A.1220.4.100.100 Supervisor Office Supplies/Stationary 275 A.1220.4.200.100 Supervisor Telephone/Cellular Phone 60 A.1355.4.500.300 Assessors Assessors Consultant 325 A.1420.4.100.200 Town Attorney Books 2500 A.1420.4.600.600 Town Attorney Dues&Subscriptions 50 A.1620.4.100.250 Buildings&Grounds Heating Fuel 250 A-1620.4.200.100 Buildings&Grounds Telephone 1000 A-1620.4.400.700 Buildings&Grounds Building Rentals 500 A.1620.4.600.700 Buildings&Grounds Licenses&Permits 50 A.1670.2.200.500 Central Copying&Mail Copy Machines 500 A-1680.1.200.100 Central Data Processing Part Time Regular Earnings 350 1.60 JANUARY 23, 1996 A.3020.1.100.100 Public Safety Communications Full Time Regular Earnings 800 A.3020.1.200.100 Public Safety Communications Part Time Regular Earnings 550 A.3020.4.100.550 Public Safety Communications Equipment Paris/Supplies 15 A.3020.4.200.100 Public Safety Communications Telephone . 250 A.3020.4.600.200, Public Safety Communications Meetings&Seminars 25 A.3120.1.100.200 Police Full Time Overtime Earnings 20000 A.3120.1.100.300 Police Full Time Vacation Earnings 2500 A.3120.1.200.100 Police Part Time Regular Earnings 1500 A.3120.2.500.700 Police Soft Body Armor 125 A.3120.4.100.100 Police Office Supplies/Stationary 150 A.3120.4.100.200 Police Gasoline&Oil 5000 A.3120.4.100.550 Police Flares,Oxygen,Ammunition 100 A.3120.4.100.700 Police Prisoner Food 100 A.3120.4.100.900 Police. Miscellaneous Supplies 100 A.3120.4.200.100 Police Cellular Phone Service 100 A,.3120.4.400.650 Police Vehicle Maintenance&Repairs 2500 A.3120.4.400.700 Police Vehicle Impound 325 A.3120.4.500.200 Police Interpreter Service 50 A.3120.4.600.300 Police Travel Reimbursement 500 A.3130.1.100.200 Bay Constable Full Time Overtime Earnings 4200 A.3157.4.100.100 Juvenile Aide Bureau Consumable Supplies 25 A3157.4.600.100 Juvenile Aide Bureau DARE Promotional Handouts 10 A.3157.4.600.300 Juvenile Aide Bureau FI Travel 225 A.5182.1.100.100 Street Lighting Full Time Regular Earnings 1 A.5182.4.100.200 Street Lighting Gasoline&Oil 350 A5182.4.200.250 Street Lighting Street Light Power 300 A.5182.4.400.650 Street Lighting Vehicle Maintenance&Repairs 75 A.5182.4.400.700 Street Lighting Pole Rental 1400 A.5650.4.100.995 Off Street Parking Signs&Sign Parts 1200 A.6772.4.100.100 Programs for the Aging Office Supplies&Stationary 100 A.6772.4.200.300 Programs for the Aging Propane Gas 250 A.6772.4.600.300 Programs for the Aging Travel Reimbursement too A.7110.1.100.100 Park&Beach Facilities Full Time Regular Earnings 750 A.7110.4.100.200 Park&Beach Facilities Gasoline&Oil 1000 Total 56071 From: A.1010.4.100.100 Town Board Office Supplies/Stationary 250 A.1110.4.500.200 Justices Court Reporters 885 A.1220.4:100.200 Supervisor Gasoline&Oil 335 A.1355.4.500.200 Assessors Appraisals 325 A.1420.1.100.100 Town Attorney Full Time Regular Earnings 2550 A.1620.1.100.200 Buildings&Grounds Full Time Overtime Earnings 1000 -. A.1620.1.200.100 Buildings&Grounds Part Time Regular Earnings 800 A_1670.4.600.500 Central Copying&Mail Express Mail 300 A.1680.4.400.350 Central Data Processing AS/400 Maintenance 356 A.3020.4.200.200 Public Safety Communications FI 911 Settlement 1400 A.3120.1.100.100 Police Full Time Regular Eamings 33050 A.3157.4.100.200 Juvenile Aide Bureau, Gasoline&Oil 25 A.3157.1.100.100 Juvenile Aide Bureau Full Time Regular Earnings 235 A.5182.2.500.500 Street Lighting Street Light Fixtures 2126 A.6772.1.100.100 Programs for the Aging Full Time Regular Earnings 450 A.9015.8.000.000 Fire&Police Retirement PFS Retirement 11990 Total 56071 19.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman 'Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly .ADOPTED. JANUARY 23, 1996 ILGIL 20.-Moved by Councilwoman Oliva; seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints Frederick A. Lee to fill the unexpired term of Douglas W. McGahan on the Land Preservation Committee, effective January 23, 1996 through July 3, 1996, he:to serve without compensation. -20.-Vote of the Town Board:... Ayes: Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was.duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: I would just like to say that, we were very fortunate in that we had, I think, at least five people that applied for this position, all very capable, qualified people. It was a difficult decision, but we finally, came to the conclusion, Mr. Gold, as Chairman of the Committee, and Ruth and myself, interviewed, and we feel that Mr. Lee will bring a different prospective to the committee. He's a gentleman that farms. We do not have a farmer on the committee. He leases over three hundred acres to farm in the Town of Southold, so we feel he brings a different prospective, and should be a great asset to the committee. We're very pleased to approve his appointment on this committee. 21 .- Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilwoman Oliva, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the establishment of the ' following Capital project, effective immediately: Capital Project Name: Vault Monitoring System Financing Method: Fund Transfer from General Fund Whole Town Budget: Revenues H.5031 .10 Transfers to Other Funds $ 2,600.00 Appropriations: . H.1620.2.500.100 Buildings & Grounds, Capital Outlay Other Equipment Vault Monitoring System $ 2,600.00 21 .- Vote of the .Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: I would just like to say on this one, again, it's establishing the part of the Capital Budget. We have mold in some of our storage records, so we want .to take care of that. We certainly don't want to lose any of the records, that are stored here in Town Hall. COUNCILWOMAN OLIVA: Plus, we'll be eligible for grants. SUPERVISOR' COCHRAN: Yes. We were just turned down on a grant, I believe, in relation to need for this, and once we take care of, our problem, hopefully we'll be able to continue to obtain grants. I think we've got, how much to date, Judy? TOWN CLERK TERRY: Fifty-seven thousand. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Fifty-seven thousand to date on grants to preserve our records, so this is something that is very important to all of us. We have public hearings at'5:00 o'clock, but before then if any of you in the audience would like to speak on any given subject, we'd be very happy to take that at this time. Would anyone like to address the Board? Yes, ma'am? Please state you name. DOROTHY SOCOZO: My name is Dorothy Socozo, and my question is for you, Jean. Have you invited the YMCA officials, and have you set a date? SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: No, we haven't invited them as yet. Bill and I were up there the first week in December. We met with the President of the Y, and Mr. Trinklein the consultant. At that time, we did go into any discussions, because I feel that it is something that should be done with the entire Town Board. So, they did say that they would like to come in after the first of the year. .Hopefully, `it will be the next meeting, 162 JANUARY 23, 1996 but they will he invited in, and we will discuss options, . and possibilities. DOROTHY SOCOZO: But you will call them? SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Yes. Definitely. I've said I would. DOROTHY SOCOZO: Another thing, I've been told that you have intentions, sort of reminds me,-of this YMCA, Gingrich's wilt on the vine theory, that you have intentions of building a .similar thing, where there will be a pool. Alice was in the paper this .week, on the end of the article, on the same idea; that will be financed with our taxpayers' dollars, and, also, maintained. Why in the world would we want to do something like that, when the Y has offered to come in? SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: I'm sorry if that's how you interpreted it. There are many options. DOROTHY SOCOZO: You.said that to the girl, who heads the YMCA. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: .I said what to the girl, that heads the YMCA? DOROTHY SOCOZO: That you really are intending to. . . SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: I have no intentions, ma'am. I have no intention. ,May I say to you, that I have supported the Y. I have never said I do not support a Y. May I, also, say to you, that we have invited the Y to come in, not a specific date, but they will be coming in after December 1st. DOROTHY SOCOZO: You're telling me, you've never, said that. Now, the girl. . SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: I've said what? DOROTHY SOCOZO: Before the elections, I was told that you spoke to the girl,,-Diane.. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: I did have a meeting with her. DOROTHY SOCOZO: She told me, that you looking in to doing something different. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: It's not looking into something different. It's looking at options. There are several options right now I'm working with in relation to the Y, that something will come of, and I can present to the Board. 'I don't think: the Board has ever investigated options. Now, when the Y was built at Shirley in Brookhaven Town, I understand from Dick Ward, that the Town government built it, and then turned it over to the Y to run. So, there are many ways, that you can make this happen. DOROTHY SOCOZO: Wasn't it pretty well settled, that if we gave them the land, and ,it wasn't even given, you kept on going before election saying that you were giving the land, and that was a falsehood, because it was an exchange. The .Y would have given back memberships, etc. You kept saying it was illegal' to give' away Town land, and you repeated it over, and over, and over, and that was untrue, and you know it. I'm calling her on that, because she saying, we can't give away land. You were interviewed by TaxPac, and you said that, you weren't against the Y. It's illegal to give away the land. Well, that's not true, because it was an exchange. COUNCILWOMAN HUSSIE: At the time, we did not find any of the details of this exchange until December, maybe two or three weeks ago. So, as far as I'm concerned, there was not any sort of quid pro quo. DOROTHY SOCOZO: I would just like to say that, I think we're missing a tremendous opportunity. Southampton would, love to have the deal we have. We need things for the kids and families around here. .,;, JANUARY 23, 1996 163 SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: I don't think anyone debates that, and it certainly is not a dead issue. Excuse me, it's -not a dead issue in Southold Town, and no decisions have been made in relation to the Y, or the direction that it is going to take. DOROTHY SOCOZO: It's not a priority either. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Please watch the newspaper, and when they're scheduled to be on the agenda, please, come in, and listen first hand to what the Board will be discussing. Is there anyone else, that would like to address the Board? JOE RISTUCCIA: Joe Ristuccia. I'd like to direct my question to Louisa Evans. With this barge accident, I guess it's over by Rhode Island, and Fishers Island. JUSTICE EVANS: It's had a tremendous impact on Rhode Island. Most of their lobsterman, and fisherman, have been put out of business for quite awhile. JOE RISTUCCIA: What about Fishers Island? JUSTICE EVANS: So far Fishers Island, we've been very lucky. The last I heard, which was probably a little after lunchtime, it was still not. .it's not so much our shores, but come into our harbors, where people have their oyster businesses, where they have their holding tanks for their lobsters. As of now, I don't think New York State waters have been effected. The DEC did send, I don't want to call it a SWAT team, but their spill rescue squad. out, and they are on Fishers Island. The Coast Guard is on Fishers Island ready to act should they need to, putting out booms, or whatever they can do to stop it. I mean, if it does come in it will have tremendous impact on the livelihood of lots of our lobsterman, and fisherman, but we've been safe. Unfortunately Rhode Island is terribly affected. JOE RISTUCCIA: Thank you very much. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: The last that John Raynor, who is the Deputy Emergency Preparedness, went over, and met with the DEC. So, he was there first hand, and came back, and reported it. So, it looks like we're safe. JUSTICE EVANS: John Raynor and John Thibodeau, who is a Deputy Emergency man over there, has made available our facilities, the Town facilities, the EOC, and they've been using that, the FAX machines, the telephones, the radios. JOE RISTUCCIA: It's going to hurt - pulling that barge out, and trying to unload it. Thank you. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: The DEC was on top of it right away, thank goodness. Anyone else, that would' like to address the Board? Mr., Tirelli? VINCENT TIRELLI : My name is Vincent Tirelli, Jr. I'm President, new President, of the Southold Town PBA. I had a prepared statement, and I thought, since I was ' speaking with Mrs. Cochran, and Mr. Moore, I decided to hold off on it. . I'm sorry I missed the first meeting. I'm basically here to congratulate you on" the election, and to tell you that I am always open to assist .you in any way possible. We have a severe crisis with manpower shortages, as you know. I've been here twice to see you, and I've talked to Mr. Moore, and I've been here before the previous Board. We need help. We have one officer, that has a possible career threatening injury. That happened about two weeks ago. I had another officer, that just retired, another officer, who is going in for surgery, I believe, on February 2nd, for a line of duty injury, that is going to hold her out at least a month, a month and a half.. We are down to pre-1972 staffing levels, as far as squads are concerned. Certain developments have come around, that have to be addressed within the department, and it's in my opi.nion unacceptable. However, you are involved in attempting to get somebody hired, and in speaking with you 164 JANUARY 23, 1996 yesterday, and Mr. Moore today, I realized that, and I realize that you're working hard on . it, and I know, you had several meetings on it today. I'm urging you very strongly, please, let's try, to keep this up, so we can expedite, get a few people in there. It's not going to be a quick fix. I realize that, but any person you hire is one more person we have today, and it very important that we get. the staffing back up to, at least, where it was, because it's not really safe out there. It's not as safe as it used to be, and summer is coming, and it's going to get crazy. Thank you. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Is there anyone else that would direct the Board? DIANE RADICAN: I apologize. I'm a few minutes late here, so I may be duplicating what has been said before, and I apologize. My name is Diane Radigan for any of you who don't know me. I represent .the North Fork Alliance for the YMCA.. As you may, or not, be aware I've spent the better part of the last few years trying to help bring a YMCA to our community. I strongly believe in the benefits of a Y, and I think I've said it on many occasions, and it's ability to enhance the quality of life. Throughout this endeavor that belief has be reinforced time and time again in conversations with anyone who has ever had the opportunity to be part of the YMCA experience.. At this point Southold is at a distinct crossroads. The public has demonstrated it's overwhelming support for it, and desire to have a YMCA in Southold. However, as a result of the number of campaigns, the prospect of attracting a YMCA to our community have been decidedly . . First, Jean, as you have stated, you are opposed to the donation of town land. Without the land donation from someplace this project is basically dead in the water. I think you all know that. They have not been told, and is not aware yet as to what the intentions are, and as I came into town, I heard you say that they were no decisions made at this point. The .offer was made to the Y way back in March of last year, as I recall. There's ,been ample time to make a decision, look at what's on the table, and.. take a stand. Keeping this in perpetual limbo only further erodes our chances of success, and makes this Board look indecisive. If you intend to support the proposal, as it is written, then it's time to do so. If you intend to , reverse it the prior administrations efforts:, get the ball and move along. If you intend to reverse the prior administration's efforts,; and resolutions, then it's time to do so. If you intend to wait, and hope this all goes away, trust me it won't. There is a lot of people out there, who are waiting for some sort of response from this Board. However, if you have the courage of your convictions, and you want to encourage the Y to open a facility here, as you stated during your campaign, then you must call Mike Famiglietti, President of the YMCA, and invite him here to talk to .you. Jean, early last, month, you and I spoke, and you had indicated that that was intention. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: It still is, Diane. . DIANE RADICAN: Then two weeks you, again, indicated that that was your intention, but, .the' time to act- is now. The longer we wait the less likely it is that we are'.going to get any sort of YMCA here. When, and if, you do meet with Mike, please keep in mind that he has stated, that Southold is no longer a priority for the YMCA. The message there is very clear. The ball is in your court. The success or failure of this golden opportunity lies squarely on , your shoulders. Of interest, someone mentioned what's happening in Southampton. I'd like to give you a little bit of background on that,, in case you're not familiar with it. About six months, or .so, ago the' Town of Southampton heard what we were doing here in Southold with respect to the YMCA. They contacted the Y, and asked for the same deal. The Y respectively declined, saying that they had committed to Southold, to us. They could not conduct two fund raising campaigns simultaneously in communities, that were so nearby. ,They did, however, agree to manage the facility, should Southampton choose to build it. Well, that's what happened. Sure enough, Southampton has agreed to commit.. two . million plus of tax dollars to build a facility on public land, which they are going .to contract with the Y to maintain. For the benefit of the rest of you, also, back in December I met with Jean privately to discuss the YMCA, the status of Y. At that time, Jean, if you recall, you felt there were ..still several options to explore, and no decisions had been made. The only option you did mention to me was the JANUARY 23, 1996 165 possibility of the Town building .facility at a cost that you had estimated to be $800,000, and bonding at a cost. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: I didn't estimate that, and A did not speak about bonding. I said that someone had come in with the figure of about $800,000 to do a similar building. I didn't say how it would be financed. DIANE RADICAN: That was my understanding, when we were at the meeting. Alice, you were quoted in the Suffolk Times recently as saying that the Town pool should be considered. If this is the alternative that you're considering, and I guess I missed part of the conservation prior to before I came in, the need to know 'that. Also, in addition to answering the members of TaxPac here tonight, let me point out that there's a huge difference between a Town run pool, and a full facility YMCA, with a proven track record.. of'' over 100 .years of experience,, of successful operation. Two weeks ago, Alice, in the Suffolk Times you were quoted as saying that, I know a.. lot of people in town think the Y is done, that they don't have to worry about it. The indication here was that having a Y in our community was troublesome, or worrisome, and quite frankly, that was a little bit insensitive at best to those of us who have been supporting this project right from the start. This need not be adversarial or confrontation in any way. We need to unify, and work together to bring a Y to our community. It will not happen with one person, or a hundred people, or five 'hundred people. It needs the entire community to work together. ., , We still have to raise the money. The money has to be raised privately. We can't do that in a divided community. At one point,, Jean, you even said that you were giving your support to the YMCA officials, and you would do whatever you could to bring a Y to our town, and that you would even be willing to serve on the local Board. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: That hasn't changed, Diane. DIANE RADICAN: I'm glad to hear that, Jean. I'm looking .for some sort of statement from this Board, as to what your position is going to be. I know that you have not yet spoken with Mike Famiglietti, but I think further . delay is a. mistake in judgement, simply because they are going to move on, if we don't get on the ball with this. Please, don't let this opportunity pass us by. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: It's now five o'clock. I need a motion to recess for the public hearing. Moved by Councilwoman Oliva, seconded by Councilman Townsend, it was RESOLVED that a recess be called. at the time, 5:00 P.M., for the purpose of -holding a public hearing. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. Meeting reconvened at 5:05 P.M. 22.-Moved by Councilwoman Oliva, seconded by Councilman Townsend, WHEREAS, the Town Board of Town of Southold wishes to purchase the development rights in the agricultural lands of William H. Heins; and WHEREAS, the Town Board held - a public hearing with respect to said acquisition on the 23rd day of January, 1996, pursuant to the provisions of the Southold Town Code; and WHEREAS, the Town Board deems it in the public interest that the Town of Southold acquire the development rights in the agricultural lands set forth in the proposed acquisition between the Town and William H. Heins; now, therefore be it RESOLVED that the Town Board hereby elect to purchase the agricultural rights . in the aforesaid agricultural lands owned by William H. Heins, comprising approximately 36.3 acres, located at 2600 Oregon Road, Mattituck, New York, Suffolk County Tax Map No. 1000-100-4-5.1; and be it 166 JANUARY 23, 1996 FURTHER RESOLVED that the Town Clerk be and she hereby is authorized and directed to give notice of such acceptance to William H. Heins; and be it FURTHER RESOLVED that the Supervisor be and hereby is authorized and directed to execute any and all required documents for the acceptance of said development rights. 22.- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, 'Supervisor Cochran. ` This resolution was duly ADOPTED. 23.- Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Councilman Townsend, WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Southold wishes to purchase the development rights ' in the agricultural lands of John J. Koroleski; and WHEREAS, the Town Board held a public hearing with respect to said acquisition on the 23rd day of January, 1996, pursuant to the provisions. of the Southold Town Code; and - WHEREAS, the Town Board deems it in the public interest that the Town of Southold acquire the ,development rights in the agricultural lands set forth in the .. proposed acquisition . between the Town and John J . Koroleski; now, therefore; be it RESOLVED that the Town Board hereby elects to purchase the agricultural rights in the aforesaid agricultural lands owned by John J. Koroleski, comprising approximately 64 acres, located at 182 Sound Avenue, Mattituck, New York, Suffolk County Tax Map No. 1000-112-01-p/o 09; and be it FURTHER. 'RESOLVED that the Town Clerk be and she hereby is authorized and directed to give notice of such acceptance to John J . Koroleski; and,.be it FURTHER RESOLVED that the Supervisor be and hereby is authorized and directed to execute any and all required documents for the acceptance of said development rights. 23.- Vote of the. Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN:. Frank, you wanted to say something? FRANK- CARLIN: Frank Carlin, Laurel. I would like to take this time to congratulate you all, and wish you all luck on the Town Board. I'm sure that Councilman Moore will find his four years quite interesting. Somebody said to me the:'other day, they said, Frank, I haven't seen you at a Town Board meeting lately. They said, what are you going to do quit? No, I'm not going to quit. I just took a little time off to recharge my batteries. 1 had a lot of other things I wanted to speak on tonight, but I have to change, and what I'm goi.ng to speak on is the YMCA. I hope this isn't going to turn out to be another McDonalds, where it took four years. I will start by saying this. Back in 1945 the Town bought that property for $800.00 an acre. In fifty-one years, in my opinion, keep in mind it's waterside property, it's worth close to $200,000. Now, let's put that on our pad. Back in 1986, Frank Murphy's administration, and you were on the Board, you. worked hard to get that amusement park put in there, the information, booth up there. It cost the Town $30,000 approximately. Here's some. pictures of it, I had taken in 1986, of the cesspools, the building being built. This is 1986. Now, you take the money for the underground irrigation systems, picnic benches, swings, backstops, the chain link fences, 'the Little League baseball fields. I would say, total of that would be an investment of, of the taxpayers' money, now, ' I would say talking $275,000, that you want to give away without any permission from the taxpayers. No way. What will happen to the Little League' baseball teams? Throw them in the swamp some place? We don't have too much in Laurel, but we pay good school taxes, .,the second highest tax rate in all Southold Town. We only have two areas there, where we have recreation. . We have -the soccer ball field, which, again, 1986, Frank Murphy was , instrumental in getting that put in there, and our recreation ' field there in Laurel. 1 can't see giving that property away, which is the taxpayers' money, what they paid for, because YMCA wants to come here, and build a facility. I'm not against the YMCA coming to Southold, but not in Laurel Lake. I suggest two places. One is the old JANUARY 23, 199G 167 Reeve Lumber. Ideal. One is the -:one right over Here on the corner of Travelers Street and Youngs Avenue, the brick building there. What's the matter with that? You got to remember, also, the YMCA is exempt from everything. They're exempt from Federal, State and local income taxes, exempt from property taxes, -exempt from States taxes, fifty percent discount on postal rates, tax exempt financing. Why should the taxpayers of Southold be required to pay anything for this YMCA, and let other outside people benefit by it? I can't see it. I can't see giving this property away for nothing. I'll say this to the YMCA people here right now, you want to build? Fine, but don't come here, -and take our beautiful park away from us, because I'm going to fight this, as much as I fought McDonalds. I fought that pretty good: I'll tell you right to your face. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Frank, please address the Board. FRANK CARLIN: But, anyway, this is how I feel about it. It's not right. It has been there for many years. In the summertime it's active there. What will we do when we lose the information center? We'll probably lose that. When you look at the impact study, I looked at the impact study, which the Town paid a $1,000 on to have done, the parking lot runs right along Laurel Lake Road, along side Eddie Bokina's house to the Main Road. So, there's going to be cars parked all in there. There's goes your ball field right there for the parking lot alone. (tape change.) You want a YMCA, let them pay for it themselves. It's only fair. Don't expect us to give them,. without even voting on it, without even letting the people have the opportunity to vote on it. One comment here on the committee, that Ed Siegmann and . I agree with them on, changing the subject now. I agree with him on, the Southold Committee on Taxes. They did a very good job on that committee, and I hope it continues. They did this report, and it's a very good report. It's got 29 pages to it, so there's a lot of work involved. I hope the Town Board will keep this committee going. It's a very good committee. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: The Town Board will be reviewing the report. FRANK CARLIN: Very good. Read this. It's very good. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: I would like to say, we had certain priorities today, that we had to take care of, and we took care of them, and there are some pretty big priorities of business, that have to be acted upon by this Town Board, so, -we will try to get that on as soon as possible.' Judy says it's on for the next meeting, on for to discuss. FRANK CARLIN: They spent a lot of time on this. I want to close for now by saying,: I .can't see having a .YMCA in there, when it's so natural. I'm surprised the Chamber of Commerce hasn't been involved in this a little bit, because, they stand to lose that building there. I mean, they weren't involved in McDonalds. I don't know why, but that's active in the summertime, a lot of families use those monkey bars, and swings, and seesaws, whatever, the children use it. Why should we give that all up? They want to come here, let them go someplace else, and buy their own land. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Thank you, Mr. Carlin. Yes, ma'am? DOROTHY SOCOZO: Alice,, why 'don't you inform him, that the land is not being given away. It's going to be an exchange. You're going to get something from the Y for it. I mean, you know that. You said, you didn't know that before, but you know it now. COUNCILWOMAN HUSSIE: I have to temper what I said just a little bit. The amount of money that was given, and it was strictly an opinion. It was not an official appraisal by the appraiser, was $80,000. I'm .sorry that I can not agree that, that land is only worth $80,000, and the amount of services, or perks, or whatever we were going to get in exchange were, you know, geared in to come in at about at $80,000. We haven't really looked at this very, very carefully,- , as far as what the land is worth. We've not done anything official. We haven't gotten a true appraisal. We haven't gotten a true impact statement. That's another thing. The impact statement, that came in, was not really an impact statement. It was request from the Board to determine where the best JANUARY 23, 1996 place to locate a YMCA building would be on that property. That statement did not suggest that it would be were it ultimately came to us on December 27th. There was no way, .because right now the December 27th plan, which is the first time I saw, it, and I presume the Board. saw it, was the use of the entire frontage of that property all the way back to the tree line. . That's the first time we saw it.. The sketches offered with this $80,000 exchange were not • the same as the impact opinion. So, I really can't say what you want me to say, because I don't really feel that that property is worth only $80,000.' DOROTHY SOCOZO: I can't imagine that some ball fields, an information house, and all this land in Southold, that the Board feels can not be put in another place. COUNCILWOMAN HUSSI.E: They can, but we would have to. purchase land someplace to replace that land. DOROTHY SOCOZO: The Town doesn't own any land? COUNCILWOMAN HUSSIE: We own. no land. That's our problem. We don't have any land for parks. We have only two parks, that the Town owns, not the Park Districts, the Town. One of them is Tasker Park, and the other is Laurel. DOROTHY SOCOZO: Didn't you buy a piece of property, if I remember correctly, down in 'New Suffolk Avenue? SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: We have a beach down in New Suffolk. DOROTHY SOCOZO: Wasn't a piece of property bought up in there? SUPERVISOR. COCHRAN: Not that I'm aware of. TOWN CLERK TERRY: Not that I'm aware of. ED SIECMANN: You're talking about Marratooka Lake. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: That's like ten by twenty feet. We've always been park poor in Southold, and most of the parks in Southold, that service the people are owned by the Park Districts. You have Mattituck, Cutchogue, Southold. You have East Marion, Orient. These different taxing agencies, districts within each community, has their own parks and services, their own individual communities. The town, we own some . beaches, both on the bay.1side, and the Sound side, ,but we're very, very limited in parks. We're park poor,' and this is something we would like to see changed in future. DOROTHY SOCOZO: You're talking about the kids having a ball field, which is wonderful, but the .Y is going to support the children. It's going to support the middle ages. It's .going to support all the people. People with arthritis, I know go -all the way into the other place. There is loads of things, that is going to help this community. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: I think I'm going to say this just one more time. We are not against a Y. We support a Y. I don't particularly support it on that piece of property. Okay? FRANK CARLIN: I have something else to say. I read that environmental impact. That tells you nothing really. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: It's not really an environmental impact statement. FRANK CARLIN: There's nothing really in there. Doesn't tell you how high the water level is - from the bottom of the lake to the top. There's nothing in there. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Thank you, sir. COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: - One comment on ' that. I think the Y has made the promise that no one will be turned down by their ability to pay. No one will be turned down by their ability to pay the use of the Y. 4 Y JANUARY 23, 1996 IG9. FRANK CARLIN: All I got to say, Joe, I hope this don't turn out to be another McDonald's. Either vote on the thing, get it out of there, or keep it, so it doesn't drag out .for four years. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: We don't intend to drag it out for four years. We won't. Believe me. PETER HARRIS: Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. My name is Peter Harris from Greenport, and I believe back in the September meeting I attended, there was resolution on the agenda that day, that was pulled concerning the installation of a traffic signal on Route 48, and Horton's Lane. Has that been passed? COUNCILWOMAN HUSSIE: Yes. PETER HARRIS: Okay. Also, at that meeting, I brought up to the attention of the sitting Board at' that time, that now only I asked a question, what made Horton's Lane stand out more than many other dangerous intersections, that this town has, especially on Route 48? One including Zack's Lane, which is in legion to the Southold Town Landfill. Since that meeting, and I believe, if I'm not mistaken, even your son, Madam Supervisor, was involved in an accident at the intersection that the traffic light, I guess, is going to be put in at. The fact of the matter means, we have many dangerous intersections, Peconic Lane, Young's Avenue, Zack's Lane, Cox's Lane, Depot Lane, and if I brought up to the attention of the Board, that if they installed some of these traffic lights, not only for safety reasons, but the fact you cut the traffic flow, especially when Cross Sound Ferry comes in, and we are barraged with a large amount of traffic at one time. Maybe it could break the traffic flow up, and Supervisor Wickham stated that they would have to take and do a review. Well, I don't know. Is public safety on the short side of the straw, compared to what something might cost? I mean there are I don't know how many accidents, especially leading into the landfill. People come eastbound, either fail to yield the right-of-way, and just come across, thinking I got to get to the landfill, not even thinking, or lose sight of the fact there are people coming westbound, and you have numerous injuries. Someone in my family was hurt there, because of an elderly gentleman cut right across, and pulled out his car. 1 'just think it's time we have to take the proper steps, and look into this to put for the sake of the traveling public, people either coming from the west to the east, or from -the east going west. They've got one thing on their mind, and that's to get where they!re, going. They're not Southold Town people. I mean people, who are born and raised, or have since moved out here, -and have become Southolders, they know the area. They know to be careful. But, a lot of times these accidents are caused by people in transit. If there. were traffic signals to slow these people down, for one thing, maybe there wouldn't be as many speeding tickets written out, but I could live with revenue not being generated from speeding tickets as to the sake of someone's family member not be injured, because of the fact our roads are made safer. The second thing I'd like to bring up is the fact that we have all now, been almost two weeks now, recovering from the blizzard of '96, and I am an employee for the New York State Department of Transportation for 23 years. I'm a Supervisor, and I have to tell you, this blizzard '96, they may want to .say that it was the third worse storm of all , times, but since the Governor of the State of New York declared a state of . emergency, and only emergency vehicle, or essential personnel were allowed on the road, believe me, the job was made a lot easier for myself, my employees, as well as the Town. The only one drawback I have is people that left their cars parked on the road. Now, I do know the Town of Riverhead, Easthampton, and Southampton Town, whenever there is a heavy snowfall, anyone that leaves their cars parked on the road, they are towed. They are ticketed, and the car goes to an impound, and they have to retrieve their cars. I would like to see some type of legislation adopted by this town for the same thing. My worse area; that I had to deal with, was in the Village of Greenport. 1 had Cutchogue, and one place in Southold. The fact that these people, they leave their cars parked on the road, and when you get a heavy snowfall, there's no way they're just going to come out, jump in 1.+70 JANUARY 23, 1996 to their car, and pull out,. because they're buried, and it makes my job even harder. It makes the road narrower for the traveling public, that once the storm is over, and the road is clear. Now, you have people coming out, and trying dig their cars out. But, the fact that, maybe, this town could take on some type of legislation. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Once the town declared that it was an emergency situation, that gave us the _,power to tow cars. That's one of the reasons we declare an emergency situation, because it does give us greater powers within. So, you really .:don't need legislation if it's a happening that, you know, that warrants moving cars, then certainly we're, allowed to move them. Perhaps what has to be set up is a line of communication, that would give notification that the car is blocking the way, and then it could be towed. That's not in place, I don't think. I'll check on that. PETER HARRIS: These other township, that I stated, this doesn't mean just during a blizzard.. When they have a snowfall, they have on their books, that the people who park. .l mean, I'm not trying to put anybody out of business.. OkayT If it's not a heavy snowfall, five or six snowfall, I'm not trying to say, shopkeepers you have to close your doors. What I'm saying .,is when it gets to be a certain time at night, please, do not park your` cars on the road. Let the road people come in, and do their job, so tomorrow morning you can put your car back out in front of your house. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: I would just like to make another point. The State has awarded Southold Town a Transportation grant. Through this grant they will be studying, when the State decides to release the funds, this is what will be happening. There will be a study of the entire township in changing some of the traffic patterns, and so forth, and they will be looking in the entirety of the town,. traffic lights, all of. these things, signs, . everything, turning lanes. This will al be a part of this study, so I'm sure at that time we'll bring this to their attention. PETER HARRIS: If I could just ask one last question, as to the sitting members from the last Board? Was any discussions, Joe, Ruth, back in September, when .you had originally pulled that resolution off, when I spoke to you people as Board members, and brought up the other locations as far as possible traffic lights? Was any discussion ever brought up about that? COUNCILWOMAN OLIVA: No. I think I agree with Jean, that we were probably. going to refer it to the whole Transportation Committee, so that when they do the-. study, which will probably start this summer, and we would bring it to their attention at that time, instead of just reacting to each individual cross street. I agree with you. There are problems, but to, let the consultants give us their report on how best that we can have traffic flow, because we would like to use Route 48, as the express route,. and then just go'down into the hamlets to keep the traffic a little bit off Route 25, so that people when .they go down there would, be able to park, and use the shops, and what have you. But, I think we wanted to refer all these things, and we'll certainly bring it to their attention, that are concerns from the public at these different intersections on Route 48. 1 don't disagree with you, Peter. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: I . have something for you, now. We have on the books, that the shop owners, and the people, through the hamlets are responsible for removing* the snow from their sidewalks. Okay? The biggest complaint I had, there was some people that didn't comply, so I called, and tried to. do ,in a friendly way first, before we sent someone over to, you know, .to summons them. They were good. They cooperated, and went out, and shoveled their walks, so it worked out fine, but, the biggest complaint that I get from people is that the State, or the County, but the State plows. They dig out their walks, and you come along with your plows open full .speed, and ' throw the snow right back into their walks again. So, they're very discouraged. Is there any way, or someone I can contact to ask the plows to, please, go down through the .village, so they're not filling in the sidewalks? I mean fair is fair, Pete. JANUARY 23, 1996 ill PETER HARRIS: Jean, I would love to sit down, and talk with you in your office. I can tell you this. Years ago, when I first came on the job, every village in the Town of Southold, if there was a major snowfall years ago, they used to come back in, and clean the villages at night. That fact is by the State, not by me, but by the State of New York, as a whole, been discontinued. Maybe I can lead you to the proper channels, that maybe some type of arrangement can be made, that only during a heavy snow fall, that maybe something can be done as far to come in, and clean the business area after a heavy snowfall. I do know Creenport did it this time, and probably they're going to be reimbursed 'through FEMA, where the Governor declared a state of emergency. They'll probably bill it through FEMA to get reimbursed. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: We don't know yet, if we're going to get funds. PETER HARRIS: That was my only thinking of why they did, outside of cleaning the business district, because it was tight. But, something can be worked out. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Please, then, come in. Let's chat, because I think it would be helpful to all of us. PETER HARRIS: I'll come in, and talk with you, and maybe we can get something straightened out. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Sounds good. Mr. Tirelli? VINCENT TIRELLI : Vinnie Tirelli. I live in Mattituck. I'd like to jump back on the YMCA. When the Y first-.,announced they wanted to come here, and they picked Peconic Lane, my initial reaction was, wow, this is going to be great. Peconic Lane, not a lot of houses in the area, so no residential effect, main thoroughfare. Center of town is very important. They started talking about giving. the land at Peconic Lane. When they jumped to Laurel a alarm went off in my head, and when they started talking about the ball field I got a definite negative feeling. When they started talking again about donating the land, I was here a few meetings ago, where a church came, and asked for basically a piece of garbage property, that it's unattachable, it's off the tax roles, it's not doing anything. They asked to make it more accessible to a new church, ' that they wanted to build with youth center, and counselling, and everything else, and it was, no, we can't do it. Bang. Close the book. They're coming in, they want, I agree with $200,000, 1 think that's an understatement. They want that much property. When the former Supervisor Wickham came up, and said, if you don't do it, we're going to lose it, just don't question it, do what I say. It turned me off completely. Listening to Mrs. Radigan's comments today, it's almost like they're trying to bully you, because they're saying it's going to be politically damaging. To .hell with politics. They're not in this, because they are benevolent. This is business. This is money. They're here to make money. I don't know what their tax part of the status is, but they are here for one thing, the dollar. Yeah, they're going provide services, and they probably have the best of intentions, but their head guy there, I heard makes somewhere near $230,000 a year. So, we're talking money. Don't be -rushed. Don't be bullied. I agree, take your time, make sure you're doing the right thing. I'm against the Laurel area, because I like the ball field a lot better than I would like to see a Y up there. I like the Chamber of Commerce. building more that a Y up ,there. I kind of like Peconic Lane. Yeah, people in Riverhead are going - to have to travel a little bit. I don't care about the people in Riverhead. I live in Southold Town. Thank you. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Thank you. Sir? JIM HICKEY: Jim Hickey, Mattituck. About this Y. I'm sure you all know how I feel about it. Like the lady says, there's just a couple of ball fields there, move them. What about the rest of the property? I think it should be turned into a .nature preserve, complete with trails, etc., etc. If the Town can't manage it have the Nature Conservancy. All right? As far as giving the property, and getting service, $400.00 a family, that's a farce. Ms. Dowd you were making up a contract? 172 JANUARY 23, 1996 TOWN ATTORNEY DOWD: No. JIM HICKEY: No, you were going to with Tom _Wickham? TOWN ATTORNEY DOWD.: No. I drafted up a proposal. JIM HICKEY: A draft, okay. TOWN ATTORNEY DOWD:..Not a contract, though, it was a proposal. JIM HICKEY: Well, if the Town is going to contract services from a private entity, wouldn't that have to go out to public bid under State law? TOWN ATTORNEY DOWD: It depends on the nature of the services that are being offered. JIM HICKEY: Okay. I understand where you're coming from, but there are other organizations similar to the YMCA. Boy's Club of America, they can perform the same services. Correct? TOWN ATTORNEY DOWD: I'm no expert on the Boy's Club. JIM HICKEY: What was the deal in the beginning with the YMCA? Did they approach Wickham, or did Wickham approach them? SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: ' Mr. Hickey, I don't think that's pertinent to this conversation. I think, as a Board, we have said that we all support recreation for our youth, and not only our youth, but all our citizens in the community of Southold. We support leisure time activity. We support ball diamonds for kids to play baseball. We support Tasker Park now with the goal posts, ninety - kids up there playing football. We support these things. We, also, support the possibility of a Y, and I think once all of us, all of us, come to that conclusion, it's how we do it that will take the discussion, and the Town Board will be discussing this. JIM HICKEY: I can't see giving away a sensitive piece of property. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: I agree, Mr. Hickey, but let's look at all options. Let's not waste our energies on the negatives of this thing. Let's all pull together, and use our energies on the positive that could come out of this. Okay? Thank you. Is there anyone else that would like to address the Board? Yes," sir? ERIC BRESSLER: Supervisor, members of the Board, I am greatly heartened to hear that, this Board is in favor of recreational opportunities for youth, senior citizens, and the rest of the residents of this town. ' It's a goal, that you should all work hard to meet. However, with respect to the current matter under consideration, if you will, there are several things you have to keep in mind. Contrary to what you've heard here this evening, no one is threatening or bullying this Board. This Board has expressed it's support of the YMCA in principal, and that's exactly what it ought to do, -because that will afford the greatest opportunities to the greatest number of citizens. The problem is the implementation of that particular goal, and the problem with the - implementation is one of time. That isn't to say' that this Board shouldn't consider all the opportunities; or all available alternatives. That is to say, rather, that there is a problem ,with respect to time, that the Board should be sensitive to, and that the Board should try to address, and that is on the end the YMCA has it's constraints,' and if the Board in considering the necessary alternatives runs beyond that time, and the interest is lost,. then so be it. However, we urge the Board to bring the Y in, call them up, bring them in, deal with them, tell them where you stand, and if you will, keep them going with you. Tell them what you're going to do. Tell them when you're going to do it. Leave your alternative open. We're confident that when this Board, keeping in mind; that this conservatism, which has been imposed on all these days measures all of the opportunities, and all of alternatives, that are available - to it. We are confident that it will come up with the appropriate solution for the citizens. of this town. There's a whole„ range of alternatives available to this Board to make this thing happen, ranging anywhere from the town issuing bonds, building it themselves, and running it themselves, having JANUARY 23, . 1996 173 the Y raise the necessary money; performing consortiums, and everything else. It's. not very difficult to- put price tags on those alternatives, in fact, it's relatively simple. We're confident that once the Board goes through that exercise, and puts a price tag on all the various alternatives, that it will find that the variant of what is proposed now is going to be the . cheapest alternative, and provide the best opportunities for the most number of .citizens. So, we urge you in carrying out your stated goal, which is you are in favor of it. We urge you, please, act expeditiously, act cautiously, but act expeditiously, look at the alternatives, ,bring the Y people in, and make up your minds as to what you are going to do, and then nobody can say that the Board hasn't considered the alternatives, and made an intelligent solution. That's what we would like ,you to do. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Thank you. .Anyone else? This gentleman here, and then Mr. Carlin JAY CARCANI : My name is Jay Cargani, Southold. There's obviously been a plethora of negative remarks here about the widely spoken YMCA, and the common denominator seems to be site location. I'm just wondering this Board is in earnest, in fact, you said yourself a little while ago in the course of this meeting said, there was not a site that' you particularly favored. That being the case, and all these negatives being issued to and fro across this room, does this Board have in their mind and their hearts, and their souls, any definable locations, that actually bear the enforcement of this Board, and can they be revealed at this time, or are they still in the process of investigation? COUNCILWOMAN HUSSIE: ' Let me put my foot in my mouth then right now. The Town doesn't have any land, that it can give, but it has been my. . and this is strictly me, Alice speaking, and not the Board. It has occurred to me that if an organization, whether it's a for profit, or not for profit, is putting up a two million dollar building, they certainly should be able to afford the property for it. Now, the thing that the Town can do to expedite this, there is provision within the Zoning Code, that allows for an organization such as the Y to build a building, to present the kinds of services, without having to go through a lot of misery. It's already in the Special Exceptions as far as the Zoning Board is concerned. So, there is a little bit of help on the part of the Town, but still can not get over the wonderment as to why a certain amount of property could not purchased. When you consider, if you were going to build a house, and your house was going to cost $150,000, you'd probably spend about fifty or seventy-five thousand dollars 'on the property itself. The ratio is there. JAY CARCANI : Is there any positive posturing on the part of this Board relative to any particular site? That's all I want to know. COUNCILWOMAN HUSSIE: There is no property, that we would have the option to state anything about that. It's all privately owned. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Not at this time. FRANK CARLIN: I don't want to beat this thing down, but I just have one thing to say. Wasn't this al,l discussed last year with the Wickham administration? Didn't they meet with the YMCA, and all of sudden now you have to have a meeting again. Somebody must have been meeting with these people. I mean, why all of sudden now you should meet with them? SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Frank, I want the Y to come, and sit down with us, and speak to the entire Town Board, so we all hear the same thing at the same time. Then I think we can get some clarification, and move in a direction. Thank you. DOROTHY SOCOZO: One last thing. I spoke to Mr. Famiglietti today, and he said the Y never purchases land. It's given them, or there's fund raising. They put up the buildings. They do not purchase the land. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Many times it's a municipality, that builds the building and .then. . . 174 JANUARY 23, 1996 DOROTHY SOCOZO: Everybody you speak to has had some experience with the Y. FRANK CARLIN: Old Reeves Lumber Yard is a good place for it. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: , Thank you, Frank. Is there anyone else? I would just like the Board, if there's anything to report, I'll start on my left. Joe, you wanted to say something? COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: . I wanted to comment on the YMCA discussion we've had tonight. The .one thing, that I think everybody is sort of misconstruing here, is that the YMCA is not putting up the money. The YMCA organization is not. We are putting up the money. The individuals, the businesses, the people in this town, are putting up the money. The Town on it's part has been asked to make some statement of commitment, some evidence of their commitment. The evidence that we choose to put up was land. We could buy a parcel, or something like that, but this thing is not going to go., because the YMCA is coming in here, and putting in a building, if they can't fund .raise for it. If there's not commitment in this town it's gone. It's 'not this Town Board making a decision. There will be . one or not. It's you people, who will make that decision. What we're doing is providing that opportunity for you people to make the decision. Now, on a slightly different area, I wanted to say something about Jean. We were on different sides of the last political confrontation, but if there's one area I have confidence in Jean is, is the area of recreation. She has a lot of experience in that area. She knows young people. I think that she is .looking. .one of the hallmarks of her administration would . probably be some sort of improvement to the recreational environment in this community. That's a guess, but I think that's probably going to one of her, hallmarks. Following that up, I think and what my interest are is providing recreation, but also keeping government , small, so to the extent that we can meet somewhere in the middle, and I suspect that maybe around a YMCA we will do so, but I have a lot of .confidence. in, Jean.. 1 hope she has similar confidence in me. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: I do. That ' was very nice, Joe. .Thank you. Ruth? COUNCILWOMAN OLIVA: No, nothing. SUPERVISOR-COCHRAN: Bill? COUNCILMAN MOORE: Nothing today. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: I would just like to share that I had the opportunity to attend a dinner, which is sponsored by the Southampton Kiwanis Club Foundation, and this, is their twenty-sixth year. What they do is honor a police officer from the five eastern towns from the Sheriff's Department, from Probation, I think. There's a whole range of people, you know, police areas , that .they honor, and our young fellow, Police Officer Grathwohl was the one that was honored from the Town of Southold. He's a young man, that is dedicated to his job. -He's just a good all around police officer. Does his duty every day, and so on behalf of the Town . I . would , like to congratulate Officer Grathwohl on his achievement in being honored by the Southampton Kawinis Club. Also, I would like to congratulate the Peconic Panthers. This is a football team of little people around the age of 11,12, and they are the Sergent's Division, the champs. They were honored at a luncheon on Sunday up at the Mama Lambardo's up south on 61 in the Holtsville area, I believe it is. They all received their trophies, but on behalf of the Board I would like to congratulate the Peconic Panthers on their championship win. That's what I have to report at this point. Also, just a reminder, that on January 25th, which is. Thursday night, we will be having the meeting here on Peconic County. Please, come and join .us. Learn about this.. This is going to bey very important. Someday you'll be voting on it, and it's the financial aspect, which I think we're all interested in. Please, make an effort to attend, so you can be a part of the decision. Alice, anything to report? JANUARY 23, 1996 175 COUNCILWOMAN HUSSIE: Well, I don't know if this is in the form of a report, -or an announcement. Jean and I, .tomorrow, are going to the DEC in Stony Brook to accept an award, and congratulations for recycling in town. Southold has been named as one of the best recycling communities in Suffolk County. While we're going to accept it, it really goes to you, the people, because you're the ones who have used your yellow bags in the right way, and recycled your things. So, congratulations to you. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Louisa? JUSTICE EVANS: I have nothing to add. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Take good care of Fishers Island. Ed Siegmann? ED SIEGMANN: The only reason I get up to mention this is, because I heard it said up there about things we used to do. I'm 100% in favor of it, in fact if you people who were on the Board remember the meeting, that you had in the Peconic Center, where you invited the parents and the children in to talk about the Youth Counsel. After that Youth Counsel meeting the only person,' that I heard, was somebody trying to promote a $35,000 job for somebody to head up that Youth Counsel, and at that time some of us got up, and said, we thought that was the wrong way to go, because to spend $35,000 on a Youth Counsel, when that $35,000 could be used for the children's program, was the wrong start. 'After that objection to the $35,000 1 never heard much more in reference to the Youth Counsel, and I would suggest that if we need leadership for this, you've been very active with it. You've got Ken Reeves at the Center. You got all the schools, that have people, that have training for youth, and sports, and everything. I think there's plenty of people in the town to lead it, we don't need a $35,000 Youth Counsel. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: I think that was going to go for salary, Ed, and I agree. It certainly would have served a better purpose to be used for programming. But, I would like to say this before we close, that through the years, and I've worked with the young people in recreation for many years, and many times they've been brought in, and organizations set up, we're going to do for you, and nothing has ever happened. This has been many years, and . many times. I think the young people in this community, have lost faith with government, that they do care, and that they are going to do something to provide some services for youth. I'm not speaking only in terms of recreation. I'm speaking in terms of other youth services. We have young people that are involved with drugs. We have young people involved with alcohol. We have young people that have committed suicide. There are many things besides recreation, that must be put in place to serve the youth of our community, but I think the first thing we have to do is regain their confidence, and their .trust, and once we do that, then we certainly will be able to work together with our youth to product something. Thank you. Hearing nothing further, I will call for a motion.to adjourn. Moved by Councilwoman Oliva, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board meeting be and hereby is adjourned at 5:55 P.M. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Councilwoman Oliva, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. � � Judith T. Terry Southold Town Clerk