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APPEALS BOARD
MEMBERS
CHARLES GRIGONIS,JR.
SERGE DOYEN,JR.
TERRY TUTHILL
ROBERTJ.DOUGLASS , Acting
Chairman M I N U T E S
SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD OF APPEALS
DECEMBER 27 , 1979
A regular meeting of the Southold Town Board of Appeals was
held on Thursday, December 27 , 109 at 7 :30 P.M. at the Town Hall,.
Main Road, Southold, New- York 11971.
Present were: Messrs. Robert J. Douglass; Acting Chairman,
Charles Grigonis Jr. , Serge Doyen; -Jr. Absente Terry- Tut:h:ill; -Jr.
RECESSED HEARING: Appeal No. 2629. Application of RALPH H.
DICKINSON, by Abigail A. Wickham, Esq. , Main Road, Mattituck, New = �
York, for a Variance to the .Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section
100-30 for permission to construct dwelling with insufficient
front and side yard setbacks: Location of property: Off_ Peconic
Bay Boulevard, Laurel; bounded north by Heck and Graham, south by
Great Peconic Bay, west by McDowell, east by Arthur.
The Acting Chairman reconvened the hearing at 7 : 38 P.M.
ABIGAIL WICKHAM, ESQ. : Mr. Chairman, we have still been
unable to resolve the question of an agreement with a revised
right-of-way with ,the neighbor, Mr. McDowell, and it does not
look like we are going to be able to resolve it in the' near fu-
ture. So I would like to request that we withdraw the applica-
tion without prejudice. I do thank you for your indulgence in
carrying it up with us for so long.
MR. DOUGLASS: That' s quite all right. I 'm sorry that they
couldn 't get. together. It would be much better for everybody.
Thank you.
MR. McDOWELL: Does that mean when this is re-heard notifi-
cation will be sent out?
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MR. DOUGLASS : It will be a new application.
MR. McDOWELL: Then all the neighbors will be notified again?
MR. DOUGLASS : Right. I will make a motion then that this
appeal be withdrawn without prejudice.
On motion made by Mr. Douglass, 'seconded by Mr. Doyen, it
was
RESOLVED, that the matter of RALPH H. DICKINSON, Appeal No.
2629, BE WITHDRAWN WITHOUT PREJUDICE.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Douglass , Grigonis , and
Doyen. Absent: Messr. Tuthill.
RESERVED DECISION: Appeal No. 2609 . Application of ROBIN A.
RAEBURN and MARY ELIZABETH MURPHY, by George C . Stankevich, Esq. ,
Main Road, Southold, New York, for a Variance for approval of
access, New York Town Law, Section 280A. Location of property:
Bridge Lane Extension, Cutchogue; bounded north by Long Island
Sound, south by Bokina, west by Bokina and Baxter Properties , east
by Parr.
The Acting, Chairman asked Mr.-,;;-Stankevich if he had further
information, possibly an agreement with Mr. Baxter.
GEORGE STANKEVICH, ESQ. : I have an affidavit from Frederick
F . Meyer, who is a professional planner. In fact he is the planner
for the Town of Smithtown, one of the largest planning departments
on Long Island. I had him come out and look at the situation, and
his affidavit, which I will submit to you, substantiates I think
the position of the property owner that we 've gone . the extra route
to find a .. way providing access equal or in excess of what we
would normally like, and that in not finding that possible, that
what is offered, namely the 16-foot right-of-way with two encroach-
ments would be adequate access under New York Law. I would like
to present that to you.
MR. DOUGLASS : Thank you. Now, . after some investigation,
have you been in touch with Mr. Baxter ' s attorney or have you been
in touch with the Planning Board.
MR. STANKEVICH: No, we .were in touch with them the last time
we were here and the Planning Board has indicated earlier, has
rightfully or wrongfully, I don't know, taken the position that
they cannot commit themselves to Mr. Baxter at this time.
MR. DOUGLASS: I understand that if you, I think you should
go back to them with this, before we make any decision, we still
have some time to make this decision. See the Planning Board.
I think you' ll find that they will go back behind the barn, if
you take and add six foot of yours to that 20 foot and make a
26-foot opening there, if you can get together with Mr. Baxter.
I think you will find the Planning Board may very well go along
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with you.
ABIGAIL WICKHAM: In. other words, all the way up for both
properties?
MR. DOUGLASS : Just to the back of the barn. Then they
would cut off back onto theirs.
MRS . WICKHAM: There will still be two roads.
MR. DOUGLASS : Yeah. Well, if they' ll go with a wider road
all the way up, well you. have that there, too.
MR. STANKEVICH: In other words, what you 're saying is that
you have some indication that they are going to reconsider their
position.
MR. DOUGLASS : We have a letter .
MR: STANKEVICH: Could that be read? It is something new to
US.
MR. DOUGLASS : "Gentlemen, the Southold Town Planning Board
is in receipt of your letter of December 13, 1979 in regard to
the right-of-way off Bridge Lane Extension to the property of
Murphy and Raeburn. The Board acted at a regular meeting held
December 17 , 1979 to deny both options until such time as there
is information from Baxter Properties that they are willing to
go along with either of these two options , or some other proposal. "
Now, you will find them open, I believe, to these.
MRS . WICKHAM: I don't remember them taking that view.
MR: STANKEVICH: We got a different viewpoint. But you're
saying--
MR. DOUGLASS : Well , I officially did get in touch with them.
We still have time before we have to make this decision. If we
have to make it now, we feel we don't have enough information that
we should have. We . haven't exhausted all possibilities.
MR. STANKEVICH: When is your next meeting, Sir?
MR. DOUGLASS : Our next meeting is the 17th of January.
MR. STANKEVICH: You see, there is a--
MR. DOUGLASS : Well , we can't help that.
MR. STANKEVICH: I didn't say anything, how do you know-
MR. DOUGLASS : I know what you are going to say.
MR. STANKEVICH: This deal falls apart January 1. You know,
the pumpkin, the coach turns into a pumpkin January 1. Let me ask
you this. You could pass this tonight subject to the condition
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that if there be a road on Baxter' s up to the back of the barn,
fine, then we can go to the Planning Board and maybe would be
able to make the deadline, or come very close to it.
MR. DOUGLASS : Well, this is something we will have to take
up later when we all go over it and finalize it, and see what we
can come up with. We will notify you of that, , but this is some-
thing for you to work on. So I am telling you that now so you
can., whatever our decision, you will be able to move on it.
MR. STANKEVICH: So you are not going to make any decision
on it tonight?
MR. DOUGLASS : We will have to discuss it afterwards when
we get together.
JOHN BOKINA: You know, Mr. Douglass, we own the right-of-way,
they just have the right to use it. As you go further up towards
the Sound, you know that house I don't even know how they got to
build that house. To build two more houses they won't have footage.
MR. DOUGLASS : Well , we don't have anything to do with the
right-of-way on the property.
MR. BOKINA: Right, I agree with you. But the right-of-way
is going to go this way and this way. And it' s going to combine
with the right-of-way that is next to my mother ' s house, whatever.
MR. DOUGLASS : No, the only right-of-way that we are talking
about right now is the one up to the properties.
MR. BOKINA: Then how about the one going across it.
MR. DOUGLASS: That is Planning Board business.
MR. BOKINA: Well I am telling you, they don't have the
frontage.
MR. STANKEVICH: So my. suggestion would be to be fair to you
and to be fair to the sellers and the buyers, that if you could
see your way fit to make your decision tonight, listing all condi-
tions including that condition that there be a joint whatever, a
26=foot right-of-way of a road up to the back of the barn, then
at least I can go to the bank and say, "Look, you know. It' s
done , now we just got to get one more finalization"and maybe
they'll hold this mortgage open. I guess as you know the bank
rates are going up to 13 , and that ' s a lot of money when you're
talking about 100 ' s of thousands . They want that interest, you
know.
MR. DOUGLASS : We ' ll certainly take all of this into con-
sideration.
The Board advised the applicants ' representative that a
decision would be made at the proper time.
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PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2650. Application of Y & C HOLD-
ING CORP, 142-17 38th Avenue , Flushing, New York (Abigail A.
Wickham, Esq. ) for a Variance for approval of access in accordance
with Town Law Section 280A. Location of property: Right-of-way
on the northerly side of County Road, 27 , Peconic; bounded north
by L. I. Sound, west by Troyano and McGunnigle, south by McGunnigle
and Ebeling, east by Wicks.
The Acting Chairman opened the hearing at 7 :54 P.M. by
reading the application for a variance, legal notice of hearing,
affidavits attesting to its publication in the local and official
newspapers , Notice of Disapproval from the Building Inspector,
and letter from the Town Clerk that notification to adjoining
property owners was given to: Mr. and Mrs . Ebeling, Mr. and Mrs .
Peter J.J-. Troyano , Mr. Thomas P. MgGunn.igle, Ms. Florence Wicks;
fee paid $15 . 00 .
MR. DOUGLASS : I also have a section of the County Tax Map
showing this piece of land and the surrounding properties. At
this point, is there anything that you have, Abigail , to enter
into this?
ABIGAIL WICKHAM, ESQ. : Yes , Mr. Chairman. I , since the
time that we filed the application, would like to bring your at-
tention to a number of things that we have done. First, we did .
check with a contractor on .building a road and went down to the
property with him. We discussed a �number _ of large trees that
are on the boundary between the what ' s now the Wicks Farm and
Ebeling ' s property, and I believe the southerly portion of the
McGunningle Farm, and in light of not only the cost of removing
the trees to put a roadway there ;but, the fact that you would
be removing some beautiful old trees , my client would prefer to
re-route the right-of-way slightly to the west of those trees
along where the farmroad has always existed. Now, you may
require us to get a survey showing that and we will undoubtedly
from a legal point of view need a written agreement with Mr.
Ebeling on that. So we are in the process, I discussed that
with him on the phone and I am going to contact him further about
that. I would at this point like to submit for your consideration,
this is a copy of the deed from the Sledjeski ' s who originally
owned this whole farm into Mr. and Mrs . Reichman, who own one of
the lots. Now this is not the deed which creates that right-of-way
but it does describe it as a 16-1/2-foot right-of-way, one in common
with the farm to the east. I 'm having someone in Riverhead at -the
County Center look up deeds for the creation of the roadway to
establish to you that it is a legal right-of-way, that it appar-
ently goes back quite a bit further than we thought, so we have
not gotten the deeds yet. This does describe it. Now I indicated
on here the present location of the right-of-way except for this
portion down here near the Middle Road where we proposed to have
it on Mr. Ebeling' s property. So it would come along 15 feet here
to the west of the trees and then swing over half and half on
Mr. McGunnigle ' s farmland and half on, the Wick' s farmland, up to--
MR. MC B1 IDE: Mr. Chairman?
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MR. DOUGLASS : Just a minute. You will have a turn, sir. .
MRS . WICKHAM: Up to the point--
MR. McBRIDE:. , Excuse me, I don't have an objection. I 'd
like to see what ' s being described.
MR. DOUGLASS: Come on up,,
MRS . WICKHAM: Up to the point where we according to the deed
swing west onto Mr. McGunnigle ' s farmland to the property itself.
MR. McBRIDE: If I may identify myself, Mr. Chairman.
MR: DOUGLASS: Yes .
MR: McBRIDE:. , I 'm Owen B. McBride; attorney for Florence A.
Wicks. I 'm here with their grandson, John Wicks IV. Now if I
may, it' s the first time I saw the legend on this survey, and I
would like to examine it, Mr. Chairman, to see. if this is suffi-
cient for your purposes and identifying this as the right-of-way
to be attached to the retained parcel which intended to be improved.
There are no metes and bounds on the right-of-way, it ' s merely
called a dirt road.
MRS . WICKHAM: I believe I just indicated that we would be
obtaining a survey.
MR. DOUGLASS : They will be getting a survey. We have to have
a survey. Did you discuss this with the County Farm Bank thing?
MRS. WICKHAM: They purchased the development right-of-way
and did not purchase the fee and the farmland, which is subject
to the right-of-way according to the deeds .
MR. DOUGLASS : In other words , they don 't care where it .goes?
MRS . WICKHAM: Well, it would-have to go according to where
the deeds require it to go, but their purchase of the development
rights would have to have been subject to this because it is of
record.
MR. McBRIDE_: Excuse me, if I may comment on that, Mr.
Chairman. I think that Mrs . Wickham made reference to a deed
to a Mr. Reichman, and that deed is signed only by the grantor
to the Sledjeski family. There is no commitment in that deed
that the predecessor in ownership of the Wick property joined in
that.
MRS . WICKHAM: I indicated, through the Chairman, that the
deed was , not presented to prove the existence of the right-of-way,
we are awaiting our title searcher to give us those deeds, and
we are giving that to them merely to describe at least at this
point. There ' s no question that we 'll have to appear at another
,hearing at some later date.
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MR. McBRIDE: I 'd like at this point the record to show, Mr.
Chairman, that we can show that the predecessor in title, Domeleski,
who granted the property to Mr. Wick years ago never joined in in
the 16-1/2-foot. right-of-way. This right-of-way is a right-of-way
by user, but Mr. Reichman and adjoining neighbor, Mr. Troyano, have
had the right to _use for years because of the existence of the
right-of-way. There is nothing of record, and nothing legally
establishing the 16-1/2-foot right-of-way other than that' s physi-
cally existing on the ground.
MR. DOUGLASS : May I ask a question. Do either of your know
ledge, is this where Troyano and others are coming down, or are
they coming down the next farm road?
MRS . WICKHAM: They use both this road and this road. I
spoke to Mr. Troyano and I know he does use this road. He also
uses this road although he ,has no legal right to do so.
MR. DOUGLASS : This one is impassable. Have you ridden up
there?
MRS. WICKHAM: About two or three weeks ago.
MR. DOUGLASS : You don't want to go up there with a car that
you care about.
MRS . WICKHAM: Well , he mentioned his Cadillac has a few
problems, but he does drive up and down there.
MR. McBRIDE: Basically, Mr. Chairman--
MRS . WICKHAM: Well, of course, it would be subject to, as I
have said, we have not --
MR. McBRIDE: Mrs. Wickham, is this that the used road, and
I know a portion of it is very difficult down there, has never
encroached upon the Wick ' s property except for two minor points
on our side of the property. And we went to great expense, over
$2 , 000 to have this completely surveyed and monumented.
MRS . WICKHAM: Well, I would appreciate it if you would send
me copies.
MR. McBRIDE : Well , this was either 1973 or 1974 , Mr. Troyano
and Mr. Reichman wanted to establish just where it is and that it
was their access to continue along the road we monumented, and we
did remove two or three ties or posts because we did see that the
traveled road as existed over here did encroach over those two or
three places. It is certainly not as it is described in the deeds
which I am well aware of, was there a 16-1/2-foot common right-of-way
on the common border of that property ever legally established.
THOMAS McGUNNIGLE: I 'm McGunnigle. My brother and I , we own
that. When we bought that from Chen who sold the development
rights, we kind of went through this, too, and our deed shows that
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that right-of-way is common to the property line , 8-1/2 on each
side of the property line, and goes back to a probably that, sir,
that you have. It also , in talking to Troyano and he says that
the right-of-way always was and from Sledjeski and Domeleski, the
original owners of the two parcels, that the lot road that they
called the right-of-way eventually went right over the property
line, split the property line right in half for the purpose of
both farmers using one common road and not having two lot roads
going through the same spot, and that they had this road estab-
lished for years and years over this property line, and then not
too many years ago, it was moved slightly our way. I think
probably when you surveyed it or whatever, posts were put In and
it made the cars go on one. side or the other and they wound up
on our side, but for gobbs of years it has gone right down the
center of the right-of-way was the center of the property line,
and now it would be terribly hard to find where that road is
because people have gotten stuck in it and they go around puddles
and all kinds of stuff, but I do believe that Troyano has used
the road which was the center of the property line for years and
years, and it was very recently that it might just touch the
Wicks property, but I think prior to just a few years it was
right .down the middle, because Sledjeski and Domeleski set it up
originally with that thought in mind. Because it was a common
dirt road.
STEVEN McGUNNIGLE: That' s the way we bought the farm,
with the understanding that the right-of-way was half and half ,
not on- our side.
MR. McBRIDE: I just responded to that. It-' s not quite so.
That 16-foot right-of-way for if it did exist at one time alone
the common boundary line was not for access to a public road to
the rear of the property. It was .for the common use of the two
adjoining farms, and it is not ,the recent Mr. McGunnigle that the
dirt road was, you know, pushed over. It was never pushed over
because stakes were put in. It ,deeded when Mr. Wicks got the
property, over 17 years ago and shows the dirt road on this side
of the common property line, except for one or two encroacments
on the Wicks ' property.
THOMAS McGUNNIGLE: I don 't--, I wasn't around 17 years ago
to argue that or whatever , it' s just from what Mr. Troyano had
said, that they used the road that was preexistent between Sled-
jeski and Domeleski, which was naturally the purpose of it being
a farm road, not an access road. And that' s the one that they
established the right-of-way on because it was already there.
And it has been moved off. of that for whatever reason, and a lot
of it has moved to our side, and--
MR. McBRIDE: No, you made it appear as though it moved
physically because of impediments put in, and that' s not so at all.
When Mr. Troyano had bought his property in ' 52 , that dirt road
was 950 of his whole length on this side of the common land. It
wasn't physically moved because of--
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THOMAS McGUNNIGLE: Well, the right-of-way would still be
16-1/2 feet even if the physical road were 8 feet this side, is
that correct? He might have been using only the 8 feet on this
side.
MR. McBRIDE : Because it' s never been established legally
between them.
MRS . WICKHAM: I think maybe that' s the question we have,
and perhaps we could sit down --
MR. DOUGLASS : Do you have anything in your deed?
MR. McGUNNIGLE : Our deed has the right-of-way as the center
of the property line. That 's how we bought the farm. That' s in
our deeds. It reverts back to a survey, this might even be that,
I don 't have the survey with me, but our deed reverts back to a
survey that should clearly define it with the bounds in the north-
east by so much and all that stuff, clearly defines the - right-of-
way as the center of the property line. That ' s how it' s, in our
deed.
MR. DOUGLASS : The best thing for us to do is, then we will
recess this until, will you have time between now and our next
meeting in January, or--
MRS . WICKHAM: I think maybe we better not.
MR. DOUGLASS : We could leave it as an open recess until
you tell us when to put it back on the agenda.
MRS . WICKHAM: I would like to say one other thing, if I
might, it doesn 't pertain to the existence to the right-of-way
but as to the type of improvement in question. After speaking
to someone about, building a road, it , was felt that rather than
a two to three inch layer of bank run that a six-inch layer
certainly would--
MR. DOUGLASS : Bank run isn't good.
MRS. WICKHAM: I thought bank run was what you require?
MR. DOUGLASS : Stone blend.
THOMAS McGUNNIGLE: We will have to draft something as to
what type of thing goes there too, because there ' s a natural
flow of water that sheds off this farm, I believe, onto the
Wicks farm through here , which is the natural flow of water and
if you build that up six inches, we 're going to. have a lake.
And that ' s farmland forever. And if you put something in there
that' s going to make a lake out of our ground and we can't
permit that. So there has to be some form of flow through the
road.
MR. DOUGLASS : This is what you people should all get together
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on, so as I say, we can recess this with no date until you come
back and tell us when to put it on the agenda. We ' ll leave it
open for a couple of hearings. If you find that you can come
back before the January 17th hearing, if you have it resolved--
MR. DOYEN: You can't do that.
SECRETARY: You would need an extra meeting adopting a
resolution to set this up for hearing.
MR. DOUGLASS : ' Yes . - Well , we -can set it on the
17th for the next meeting. You will have to let us know.
SECRETARY: I would have to re-advertise it also.
MRS. WICKHAM: You will have to re-advertise it, if you
don 't set a date?
MR. DOUGLASS : Right. We will advertise all recesses that
are without date. It ' s our policy.
MRS. WICKHAM: Okay.
MR. DOUGLASS : Thanks an awful lot.
THOMAS McGUNNIGLE: You will notify us?
MR. DOUGLASS : It will be advertised in the paper.
MR. McGUNNIGLE : Just in the paper.
MR. DOUGLASS : - I ' ll make a motion that we recess this hear-
ing until we hear from the party involved so we may set a new
date.
On motion made by Mr. Douglass, seconded by Mr. Doyen, it
was
RESOLVED, that the matter of Y & C HOLDING CORP. by Abigail
A. Wickham, Esq. , Appeal No. 2650 BE RECESSED without date until
the applicant' s representative advises further.
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Messrs. Douglass, Grigonis, and.,
Doyen. Absent : Messr. Tuthill .
On motion made by Mr., Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Douglass, it
was
RESOLVED, to approve the minutes of the December 6 , 1979
meeting of this Board.
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Messrs. Douglass, Grigonis, and
Doyen. Absent: Messr. Tuthill .
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PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2649 . Application of GUNTER
MORCHEL, Main Road, Mattituck, New York, for a Variance to the
Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section 100-32 for permission
to construct fence over four feet high in front yard. Location
of property: Nassau Point Amended Map A, Map #156 , Lots 18 and
part of 17 ; bounded north by Old Menhaden Road, east by Peconic
Bay, south by Case, west by Nassau Point Road.
The Acting Chairman opened the hearing at 8 :19 P.M. by
reading the application for a variance, legal notice of hearing
and affidavits attesting to its publication in the local and
official newspapers, Notice of Disapproval from the Building
Inspector, and letter from the Town Clerk that notification to
adjoining property owners was given to: Mr. George Case; fee
paid $15 . 00.
MR. DOUGLASS : I have a copy of the survey showing the
proposed tennis court and fence. Also have a copy of the County
Tax Map showing the surrounding properties. Is there anyone
wishing to speak for this application?
GEORGE CASE: My name is George Case and I have the property
to the south of Mr.. Morchel, and I 'm a little confused about the
matter of where the fence will be. Is this an application for
the tennis court, too?
MR. DOUGLASS : Well , that ' s what it is .
MR. CASE: Well, it didn't say so, of course, and I have a-
MR. DOUGLASS : We have another one. This is for the fence
around the tennis court, and he has another one. When he first
put in the application, he left out the request for a fence over
four feet high.
MR. CASE: This is not for the tennis court?
MR. DOUGLASS : It' s for the tennis court fence.
MR. CASE : Well , I ' ll wait until you get to the tennis court.
I think I can dispose of the whole thing at that time.
MR. DOUGLASS : All right, sir. That comes right after this
one. Is there anybody desiring to speak against this application?
(There was no response. ) This being a requirement for a fence
over four foot high, I would propose that it be granted, that he
be allowed to put up his fence around his tennis court over four
feet high. The situation as everybody knows in Nassau Point, I
guess, your front is really your back yard because you're on the
water, so everything has to go in the frontyard. Anybody that
lives on a regular street has a frontyard on the street and a
backyard behind the house.
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After investigation and inspection, the Board finds that the
applicant is requesting permission to construct fence over four
. feet high for a proposed tennis court. The Board feels the.
applicant' s request is reasonable.
The Board finds that strict application of the ordinance
would produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship;
the hardship created. is unique and would not be shared by all
properties alike in the- immediate vicinity of the property and
in the same use district; and the variance will not change the
character of the neighborhood and will observe the spirit of the
ordinance.
On motion by Mr. Douglass, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it was
RESOLVED, that GUNTER-MORCHEL, in Appeal No. 2649, BE
GRANTED permission to construct fence over four feet high, SUB-
JECT .TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITION: :
(1) Approval and/or recommendations of the Suffolk County
Planning Commission pursuant to Section 1332 of. the Suffolk
County Charter.
Location of property: Nassau Point Road, Nassau Point
Amended Map A #156 , Subdivision Lots 18 and part of_ 17 , Cut-
chogue, New York. County Tax Map Item No. 1000-111-9-3 .
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs . Douglass, Grigonis, and
Doyen. -Absent: Messr. Tuthill.
PUBLIC HEARING: . Appeal. No. 2651. . Application of GUNTER,
MORCHEL., Main Road, Mattituck, New York, for a. Variance to the
Zoning Ordinance , Article III,, Section 100-35 for permission
to .construct accessory in front yard. Location of property:
Nassau Point Amended Map A, Map No. 156 Lots 18 and part of 17 ,
Cutchogue; bounded north by Old Menhaden Road, east 'by Peconic
Bay, south by Case, west by Nassau Point Road.
The Acting Chairman opened the hearing at 8 : 23 P.M. by
reading the Notice of Hearing. There was no objection to the
waiving of, reading the appeal application and relative docu-
ments submitted with the application.
MR: DOUGLASS : At this time would you like to speak, sir?
GEORGE CASE: Yes, I would if I may. Mr. Morchel sent me
a notice that he intended to build this tennis court and asked
if I had any objection. I communicated with him, both verbally
and I sent him a note saying that I had no objection to the
tennis court provided that itwould be used only during day-
light hours. I would just like to get this recorded because
it ' s not in a neighborhood in which we would like to -have flood-
lights and excessive noise after dark.
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MR. DOUGLASS : Well, I agreed. Unless he had floodlights
I don't think- he would put it there. But. he. was agreeable I
take it,
right?
MR. CASE: He said that he didn't intend to play at night,
and I just thought that it should be recorded that he did say
that.
MR. MORCHEL was, present at the hearing and' did not indicate
any objection to the comments.
MR. DOUGLASS : Is there anybody else desiring to. speak for
this application? (There was no response. ) Is there anybody
desiring to speak against -this application? (There was no res-
ponse. ) If not, I ' ll make a motion that-the tennis court be
approved, with the fence that Mr. Morchel has requested [in
Appeal No. 26491 and a notation in our records that,Mr. Morchel
has agreed that there will be no floodlights.
After investigation and inspection, the Board .finds that
the applicant has, requested permission to construct accessory
(tennis court) in the frontyard area, Article III , Section
100-35 . The Board agrees with the, reasoning _of the applicant,.
and the project. i-f implemented :-as planned is not unreasonable
inasmuch as the rearyard area is not sufficient for this project.
The Board finds that the circumstances present in this
case are unique, and that strict application of the ordinance
would produce practical difficulties or -unnecessary. hardship.
The Board believes that the grant of a variance in this case
will not change the character of the neighborhood and will
observe the spirit.of the zoning ordinance.
On .motion made by Mr. Douglass, seconded by Mr. Grigonis,
it was
RESOLVED, that GUNTER MORCHEL, in Appeal No. 2651, BE
GRANTED permission to construct accessory in front yard, to
wit, tennis court, as applied for, .SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING
CONDITION:
(1) Approval and/or recommendations of the. Suffolk County
Planning Commission pursuant to Section 1332 of the Suffolk. ;
County Charter.
Location of property: Nassau Point Road, Nassau Point
Amended Map A #156 , Subdivision Lots 18 and part of 17 at
Cutchogue, New York. County Tax Map Item No. 1000-111-9-3 .
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Messrs. Douglass, Grigonis, and _
Doyen: Absent': -Messy. Tuthill.
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PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2653 . Application of JAMES
REALE (by Peter Stoutenburgh) , Skunk Lane, Cutchogue, New York
for a Variance to the Zoning Ordinance, • Article III; Section
100-32 for permission to construct accessory building in side
yard. Location of property: 7845 Skunk Lane, Cutchogue;
bounded north by Frieman and Cordes, east by Kaller, south by
Skunk Lane, west,-by Petrucci.
The Acting Chairman opened. the hearing at 8 :29 P.M. by
reading the application for a variance, legal notice of hearing
and affidavits attesting to its publication, in the -local and
official newspapers, Notice of Disapproval from the Building
Inspector, and letter from the Town Clerk that notification to
adjoining property owners was given to; Mr. Petrucci, Mrs.
Lillian Friemann, Mrs. Olga Cordes, Mr. Kaller; fee paid $15. 00.
MR. DOUGLASS : We have a copy of the survey and where the.
placement will be of the cesspools, driveway and so on. ,
Also have a section of the County Tax Map showing this and the
surrounding properties. Is there anybody at this time wishing
to speak for this application?
ANGELO PETRUCCI : I 'm in favor.
MR. DOUGLASS : Would you give your name, sir?
MR. - PETRUCCI : My name is Angelo Petrucci. I live right
next door to Mr. Reale, and in fact I think it's a very good
idea for this man to have a building to put his equipment, lawn
mower and whatever else he has , paint and- stuff, because he has
a very small place to live. And you know, he is going to retire,
and I think everybody. is entitled to a shed, you know, to put
something inside. I don't. know what' s . the matter with this guy
who says he cannot build this. I think maybe you said someone
did object?
MR. DOUGLASS : Yes, but- he- is only going by the ordinance.
He has to turn it down because it definitely states in the ordi-
nance that you can't build in a sideyard %without coming before
thl's Board.
MR. PETRUCCI : Oh, I see. As far as I 'm concerned, . he can
come as close to my property as much as he needs. I don 't
know, two or three feet?
MR. DOUGLASS : They can't come closer than three feet.
MR, PETRUCCI : It .•used to be three feet, and it' s still
three feet?
MR. DOUGLASS : Yes. (Mr. Douglass showed Mr. Petrucci
the photographs of the applicant's house and his house. )
MR. PETRUCCI.: Well , I think that it would be all right.
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MR. DOUGLASS : Ok. Thank you. Is there anyone else wishing
to speak for it?
PETER STOUTENBURGH: I 'm Peter Stoutenburgh and I 'm the
fellow who had the work done, as far as putting in the fuel tank
and stuff, and I just wanted to state that we went as far back
in the lot as we could considering the fact that there are two
pools there already. That ' s one of the reasons the work was
started. We had no way of really knowing where the lines and
stuff were.
MR. PETRUCCI : Oh, I think it' s a beautiful set-up.
MR. DOUGLASS : The way you have it drawn here, you won 't
protrude past the front of the house.
MR. STOUTENBURGH: No. That' s what we hoped to be able
to accomplish, but we didn't know there had been a wall there.
So we will be no closer than the front of the house for sure.
It , should be a couple of feet back.
MR. DOUGLASS : Thank you. Is there anybody else wishing to
speak for this application? Is there anyone wishing to speak
against this application? (There was no response. ) Hearing none,
I will accept a motion.
After investigation and inspection, the Board finds that
the applicant is requesting permission to construct an accessory
building in the sideyard area due to the steep slope of the
rearyard and location of cesspools. The applicant indicates
that the building will not be constructed closer than the front
of the dwelling house. The Board agrees with the reasoning of
the applicant for the project if implemented as applied for.
The Board finds that the circumstances present in this
case are unique, and that strict application of the ordinance
would produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship.
The Board believes that the grant of a variance in this case
will not change the character of the neighborhood and will
observe the spirit of the zoning ordinance.
On motion made by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr . . Doyen, it
was
RESOLVED, that JAMES REALE, 7845 Skunk Lane, Cutchogue,
New York, by Peter Stoutenburgh as agent, BE GRANTED permission
to construct accessory building in .the westerly sideyard area and
in accordance with the requirements . of the Southold Town Build-
ing Code and provided same not be used for living quarters .
Location of property: 7845 Skunk Lane, Cutchogue, New
York; bounded north by Frieman and Cordes, east by Kaller , south
by Skunk Lane, west by Petrucci. County Tax Map Item No .
1000-104-4-25 .
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Messrs. Douglass, Grigonis, and
Doyen. Absent: Messr . Tuthill .
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PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 265.4 . Application of CHARLES R. .
BOCKLET (by Peter Stoutenburgh) , 72 Fourth Street, Garden City,
New York, for a Special Exception to the Zoning Ordinance, Article
III , Section 100-30A, for permission to establish second residence
dwelling on same lot-. Location of property: Robinson Laney Peconic;
bounded north by Suskevich, east .by Wood, south by Hog Neck Bay,
west by Robinson Lane.
The Acting Chairman opened the hearing at 8 ;36 P.M. by reading
the application for a special exception, legal notice of hearing
and affidavits attesting to its publication in the local and offi-
cial newspapers, Notice of Disapproval from the Building Inspector,
and letter from the Town Clerk that notification to adjoining prop-
erty owners was given to: Mr. Ken McQueen, W. Suskevich, and P.L..
Wood; fee paid $15 . 00.
MR. DOUGLASS : I have a survey showing the 1-1/2-story house
and the barn, and they are. asking to convert to. caretaker quarters
the barn, and showing the lots to the rear that. are under their
ownership, and the driveway entrance from Robinson Lane into the
Ixoperty. I also have. a section of the County Tax Map showing their
pieces and the surrounding neighborhood. This is a subdivision,
filed, called "Peconic Bay Oaks. " At this point I will ask if
there is anyone desiring to speak for this application?
PETER STOUTENBURGH: I would like to say that, during your
visit you saw some work had been done on the site that was to
replace, a floor which had been in there and had been damaged.-to
the point where they were leery of using the first floor . In cor-
recting this problem and' starting to work- on the building, Mr.
Bocklet thought that he would like to have somebody in there,
pretty .:much `as, I have stated there. What the situation is, and
they would like if they can get this variance to know that at
some time they have two lots to the. north, and the first lot I
'believe will have to be, if they get the variance, somehow
included with the original one. What I would like to know is if
in fact they do get it, can they at some time regardless of what
changes need to- be done to the new residence, can they subdivide
and remove that and sell that lot, like the first lot to the north?.
As long as --
MR. DOUGLASS: Thank you, that -.
MR. . STOUTENBURGH: If that could be done, I think they would
want to go ahead with it. I talked with them on- the phone. They
could not be present themselves.
MR. DOUGLASS : Is there anybody else wishing to speak for
this application? Is there anybody wishing to speak against this
application? (There was no response. ) After thorough investiga-
tion of it, and going out there and checking it all over, why it
appears they have sufficient amount of area there to subdivide
to allow them to build on. I would make a motion to this effect
that they be allowed to build these quarters in ' the barn, care-
taker ' s quarters, provided the lot behind this 1. 8-acre piece be
included in the 1 . 8 acres so that you have the 80, 000 square feet
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that is needed. This would have to be joined and no�rbui.lding be
allowed on it. In fact they will still have -one remaining lot
which is in an established subdivision of "Peconic Bay .Oaks" to
the back. We don't need that-. We heed the one. just behind the
one on the waterfront, and to grant this variance why there will
be .a requirement that they tie that to the waterfront piece.
MR. STOUTENBURGH: Would this motion- that you're making allow
them at some other time to remove the status and return it to a
garage or an accessory building? In other words, if they are not--
MR. DOUGLASS : That would be upgrading, probably, and they
probably-- I can't give you a legal opinion ' on it, but- upgrading
is never any problem usually.
MR. STOUTENBURGH: . Because they really don 't want to change
the status of the neighborhood,. They are just interested in. some-
body to look after the place-
MR. DOUGLASS : Well, they have to have. 80, 000 square feet in
order to have the two dwellings, so they will have to attach that
next piece of theirs behind that lot, which measures--
CHARLES GRIGONIS : I was wondering, excuse me, Bob, if Mr.
Stoutenburgh meant that in the future they may want to turn this
back- into a garage and build another house on that same lot and
use the garage as an accessory building?
MR. STOUTENBURGH: Right. Exactly.
MR. GRIGONIS : As long as he maintains the 40, 000 square feet
for it.
MR. DOUGLASS : They would have no problem then.
MR. STOUTENBURGH: What they already have is a lot, which I
believe is 18 ,600 .
MR: DOUGLASS : , Yes, 18 , 000 square. feet, the one in back of it,
and they'll have to attach that to the front lot.
MR. STOUTENBURGH: Right. They are in definite agreement to
do that. What they question is, will they have to subdivide the
lot -even if they remove the status ,of that building? They will
be able to subdivide with ,two houses since they have more than
two acres. Can they remove the status of the garage?
MR. DOUGLASS : I don't see why not. Then they will be able
to come back to the 40, 000 and 401000.
MR, STOUTENBURGH: Could there be a letter written by the
Town Attorney what the Town.' s position is?
MR. DOUGLASS : Well , we speak to him. That' s for sure. .
And so that he can give you an official--
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MR. STOUTENBURGH: Right. It ' s a rather technical situation
that doesn't come up very often, and there doesn 't appear to be
any information passed on to the Town as far as the zoning.
MR. DOUGLASS : But my motion will let you go ahead provided
that next piece back is attached to the front piece, and no further
dwelling is allowed on that, those two pieces .
MR. STOUTENBURGH: They have no immediate plans.
MR. DOUGLASS ; Right.
After investigation and inspection, the Board finds that the
applicant requests permission to convert the barn on the same
premises as the dwelling house into a yearround caretaker ' s home.
The applicant has agreed -to include the adjoining parcel, known
as Subdivision Lot 1 of "Peconic Bay Oaks;,. with the 1. 8-acre
parcel to allow for the 80, 000 square-foot requirement for two
dwellings. The Board agrees with the reasoning of the applicant
for this project if implemented as applied for herein.
The- Board finds that the circumstances present in this case
are unique, and that strict application of the ordinance would
produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship. The Board
believes that the granting of a special exception in this case will
not change the character of the neighborhood and will observe the
spirit of the zoning ordinance.
On motion made by Mr. Douglass, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it
was
RESOLVED, that CHARLES R. BOCKLET, 72 Fourth Street, Garden
City, New York 11530 , (by Peter Stoutenburgh as agent) BE GRANTED
permission to establish a second residence on the same lot as
applied for, SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS :
(1) That Subdivision Lot No. 1 of Peconic Bay Oaks" is
deemed to be part of the second-dwelling complex and shall not
be used for the construction thereon of any further dwellings.
(2) That approval and/or recommendations of the Suffolk
County Planning Commission be obtained.
(3) That the applicant obtain approval of the Site Plan
from the Southold Town. Planning Board.
Location of property: Robinson Lane, Peconic; bounded north
by Suskevich, east by Wood, south by Hog Neck Bay, west by Robin-
son Lane. County Tax Map Item No. 1000-98-5-2 and 1000-98-5-3 .
Vote_ of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Douglass, Grigonis, Doyen.
Absent: Messr. Tuthill.
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PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2652 . Application of JOHN R.
DEMPSEYA By North Fork Equities, . Inc. on the account of DIANE
GAllA) , North Road, Southold, New York for a Variance to the Zoning
Ordinance, Article III , Section 100-30 for permission to obtain
Certificate of Occupancy with insufficient frontyard setback. Lo-
cation of property: Cedar Beach Road, Southold, New York, known
and designated as part. of Lots No. 21, 22, 23 , and 24 on Map- No.
90 of Cedar Beach Park.
The Acting Chairman opened the hearing at 8 :55 P.M.and filed are
the application for a variance, legal notice of hearing and affi-
davits attesting to its publication in the local and official news-
papers, Notice of Disapproval from the Building Inspector, and
letter from the Town Clerk that notification to adjoining property
owners was given to : Mr . and Mrs. Robert Gazza; fee paid $15 . 00 .
MR. DOUGLASS : This is for a correction on a setback that had
been granted last Spring on a piece of land at Cedar Beach, so I
will just read the advertisement in the newspapers rather than to
go through it all, unless somebody desires that I do.
(There was no objection that the reading of the application
and relative documents be dispensed with. )
MR. DOUGLASS (continued) : The building is all up. A, survey
was run afterwards for the approvals and so on, and the 45-foot
• that had been measured turned out that the highway owns: a little
more than they thought, and it only comes to 43 ' 3" . So the surveyor
has decided that it is only 43 ' 3" between the road and the barn
setback.
MR. GRIGONIS : That ' s only one corner of the barn.
MR. DOUGLASS : Right. Is there anyone wishing to speak for it?
Is there anybody wishing to speak against it? (There was no response. )
Hearing none, I 'll accept a motion to approve the 4313" setback so
that they can get their Certificate of Occupancy and to rescind
those portions of the previous appeal (No . 2591) that was granted
and that are inconsistent with this approval .
After investigation and inspection, the Board finds that the
applicant requests permission to obtain Certificate of Occupancy
of a non-farm, barn storage building with an insufficient frontyard
setback in one corner of 43 ' 3" . This Board granted a variance
under Appeal No. 2591 on September 6 , 1979 approving a 45-foot
frontyard setback, and applicant has stated that when the property
was surveyed and after the barn had been constructed in compliance
with the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation' s
requirements for a rearyard setback from the water line of 60 feet,
it was found that the frontyard setback was 43 ' 3" and not 45 feet
as originally requested. The Board agrees with the reasoning of
the applicant.
The Board finds that the circumstances present in this case
are unique, and that strict application of the ordinance would
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produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship. The Board
believes that the granting of this variance will not change the ,
character of the neighborhood and will observe the spirit of the
zoning ordinance.
On.motion made by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Douglass, it
was
RESOLVED, that JOHN R. , DEMPSEY, on the account of DIANE GAZZA
(by North Fork Equities, Inc. , North Road, Southold, New York 11971) ,
BE GRANTED a variance to the zoning ordinance, Article III , Section
100-30 for permission to obtain Certificate of Occupancy with an
insufficient frontyard setback of 43 ' 3" , and that the previous
grant of variance in Appeal No. 2591 is hereby rescinded as to those
portions thereof that are .inconsistent with this Decision, and that
approval and/or recommendations of the Suffolk County Planning Com-
mission be obtained.
Location of property: Cedar Beach Road, Southold, New York,
known and designated as part of Lots No. 21, 22, 23 and 24 on Map
No. 90 of Cedar Beach Park. County Tax Map Item No. 1000-91-001-
part of lot 3 .
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Messrs. Douglass, Grigonis and
Doyen. Absent : Messr. Tuthill.
RECESSED HEARING: Appeal No. 2587 . Application,-of STEPHEN J.
PERRICONE and PENELOPE KOUSOUROS, 7470 Sound Avenue, Mattituck, New
York for a Variance to the Zoning Ordinance, Article VI , Section
100-60 for permission to establish disco bar with dancing. Loca-
tion of property: Sound Avenue, Mattituck, New York; bounded north
by Sound Avenue, east by Sepko, south and west. by Meglio.
The Acting Chairman reconvened the hearing at 9 :14 P.M.
MR. DOUGLASS : At this time I would like to ask is there any,
body who would like to add anything or any- testimony not already
given?
STEPHEN PERRICONE: No, except, of course, I have the approved
parking plan by the Town.
MR. DOUGLASS : Right, we should have a copy of that.
Mr." Perricone gave the Acting Chairman a copy of the approved
parking plan.
MR.PERRICONE: And this is the contract of sale, but it has
been closed on, and the deed isn't ready yet. We don't have a
copy of the deed. And this is another, we left this out, this is
more signatures (in favor of the disco) .
MR. GLICKMAN: What did the young man just say?
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MR. DOUGLASS : He just gave us some papers that we had
previously asked for, and that was the approval of the Planning
Board for the parking area, and a contract of their deed.
MR. GLICKMAN: The deed for the disco or the particular
building, the complete building?
MR. DOUGLASS : The building, the whole grounds. Everything.
That ' s what he has presented for our files. Is there anyone
else wishing to add more testimony in favor of the disco at this
moment? (There was no response. ) If not, I ' ll ask, is there .
anybody desiring to add any testimony against the disco?
MR. GLICKMAN: Mr. Glickman of Corwin and Glickman in Green-
port. I take it for granted that the building will be rehabili-
tated in accordance with the code, the building code of the State
of New York?
MR. DOUGLASS: It ,would have to be, sir. Yes.
MR. GLICKMAN: And the amount of people to be allowed in at
any one time, would be how many, Mr. Chairman?
MR. DOUGLASS : 100 they have requested, and that is well
within their limit.
MR. GLICKMAN: Is that seating space. Seating for 100?
MR. DOUGLASS ; It ' s not all sitting.
MR. PERRICONE : It 's sitting and standing.
MR. GLICKMAN: And the square foot of table space that would
be in a disco would be in accordance with the building code of
the State of New York?
MR. DOUGLASS : The whole thing has to be built-
MR. GLICKMAN: Because we intend to monitor it- very carefully
if the Board goes ahead and grants it. And there ' s a one way
street that this disco is on, running off the back road, as I
may say. And it's a one-way street. The traffic control is, your
face is awful funny, young man, when I say it' s a one-way street.
MR. PERRICONE: I don't know what one-way street you're talking
about.
MR. GLICKMAN: Isn't there a one-way street?
MR. PERRICONE: Four-lane highway, have you been there?
MR— GLICKMAN: Oh, I 've been there.
MR. DOUGLASS : Please, address the chair if you want to speak.
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MR. GLICKMAN: It comes off a one-way street going east onto
25 .
MR. DOUGLASS : It would probably be better if you stated the
divided highway.
MR. GLICKMAN: The divided highway, all right, have it -your
way. But it ' s one way there. There' s a position about traffic
that has to be taken care of also.
MR. DOUGLASS : Yes , sir , that all has to meet code.
MR. GLICKMAN: All of it meets the code? That will be into
the variance if it has been granted, if the variance will be
granted that it meets code.
MR. DOUGLASS: If it is granted, it all has to meet code.
In all ways .
MR. GLICKMAN: Fire, building, and everything else?
MR. DOUGLASS : Yes, sir , we already have a statement from
the Mattituck Fire Chief and so on, on it. Yes, sir. Thank you,
Mr. Glickman. Yes, ma 'am?
DOROTHY PAUS : Dorothy Paus. I want to know how going west
they will be able to go into there? You have to cross over, the
dual highway is over here. Sound Avenue is on the south side, to
go into the- - you have to cross a pavement with grass , curbing.
The dual highway ends right before Cox Neck Lane, and to go over
to the south side you have to go over the curb with the grass,
which they have been going over to get into that place.
MR. GLICKMAN: Which is an illegal crossing there.
MRS . PAUS : Because it' s run over with the traffic and with
myself, a relative put up some fenceand I didn't cross over. We
had to go way up west and then come down, because once you pass
there then you either take the north or the south. The north is
dual , the south goes to Sound Avenue and onto the Main Road.
MR. DOUGLASS : I 'm quite aware of what you are talking about.
The only answer I could give you on that is that is a matter of
the Police Department and how they allow traffic to operate. It'-s
not within our jurisdiction.
MRS . PAUS : My objection is, you see, I live on that street
and it ' s very populated with trucks because they can 't go under
the bridge in Laurel, and it' s very populated. We have had dogs
killed, you know, because of the traffic. I haven't enough back
yard space, that ' s why, you know, we put up the fence.
MR. DOUGLASS : Thank you, ma'am. Yes, sir?
STANLEY SEPKO: My name is Stanley Sepko. I want to know, is
the Board going to allow them to park along that highway, stretch
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of road, off his own premises? Are cars going to be allowed to
park?
MR. DOUGLASS : Anything that is built today must have off-
street parking..
MR. SEPKO: Must have it? Are they allowed to have it on a
County, dual highway.
MR. DOUGLASS : It has to be "off-street parking. " '
MR. SEPKO: Oh, off-street. What happens if they put it up
and park along that road?
MR: DOUGLASS : That' s a matter for the Police Department.
MR. SEPKO: I talked to the Police Department. The Police
Department told me, I talked to Cataldo, and he told me he can't
do anything about it unless the Town Board puts up no-parking
signs. Are no-parking signs going to be put up along that highway?
He says you would have to approve it.
MR. DOUGLASS : That' s up to the Town Board I 'm afraid.
MR. SEPKO: I 'm getting a real good answer there. I mean,
as far as there is. no violation in other words.
MR, DOUGLASS : Sir, it' s not in our jurisdiction.
MR. SEPKO: Well, who is liable if there are accidents there.
Will the Town Board stay responsible for it?
MR. DOUGLASS : We, are here to take testimony, sir.
MR. SEPKO: This man has created a hazard over there, with
his trucks and trailers and what he ' s rented out, got across that
dual highway, and he. busted that center mall. And I ' ll tell you,
that is a truck .route �now. They re-routed it from Laurel right
down to Mattituck. And trucks travel all the way to the East End.
And their trailer trucks zoom in there all hours of the night,
mostly between 8 and 10, 11 and 12 o 'clock in the morning.
MR. DOUGLASS : Sir, I think you're slightly out of order.
This does not pertain to this . You're getting off the field. Is
there any further testimony or comments at this time? (There was
no response. ) If not, .I 'll make a motion that this hearing is,
now closed and reserve decision. You will be notified of our
decision in a short time.
On motion made by Mr. Douglass, seconded by Mr. . Grigonis,
it was
RESOLVED, that the matter of STEPHEN J. PERRICONE and PENE-
LOPE KOUSOUROS , 7470 Sound Avenue, Mattituck, New York, BE
RESERVED ITS DECISION within 45 days of this date.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Douglass , Grigonis and_ Doyen.
Absent: Messr. Tuthill .
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On motion made by Mr. Douglass , seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it
was
RESOLVED, that in 'the matter of EMANUEL M. KONTOKOSTA, 26
Court Street, Brooklyn, New York 11201 , by Richard F. Lark, Esq. ,
Appeal No. 2579 ; this Board has received from the applicant a
"Site Development Plan" revised October 24 , 1979 relocating and
increasing leaching pools (eight) and providing for handling
surface drainage and regrading to minimize runoff entering adja-
cent waters, and a completed Environmental Assessment in the Long
Form,
WHEREAS, this Board as lead agency has received written.
comments from the New York State Department of Environmental
Conservation indicating that the application of Emanuel M. -
Kontokosta for a State Tidal Wetlands Permit and State Pollutant
Discharge Elimination System (SPDES) appears to be approvable
if the project is implemented as planned in the revised plans,
supra, and
WHEREAS , this Board as lead agency has received written
comments from the Suffolk County Department of Health Services
indicating that due to the proposed water supply to be received
from the Village of Greenport an on-site water supply will not
be necessary, and the proposed septic tank leaching pool system(s)
may require the placement of fill to raise the grade in the areas
of the sewage disposal facilities and for which the applicant
understands this will be required before such approvals, and
WHEREAS, the Suffolk County Planning Commission has advised
they will not consider this application until after this Board
has made its final determination and has submitted copies of
all documents pertaining to this matter,
NOW, THEREFORE, this Board has determined that by the means of
revised plans submitted by the applicant as stated above, the
SEQRA declaration of this Board made November 15, 1979 shall be
reversed and deemed a Negative Declaration having no significant
effect on the environment.
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Messrs. Douglass, Grigonis , and-
Doyen. Absent: Messr. Tuthill.
On motion made by Mr. Douglass , seconded by Mr. Grigonis , it
was
RESOLVED, that the matter of EMANUEL M. KONTOKOSTA, Appeal
No. 2579 , BE SCHEDULED to reconvene its public hearing on Thurs-
day, January 17 , 1980 .
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Messrs . Douglass , Grigonis and
Doyen. Absent: Messr. Tuthill .
Southold Town Board of Appeals -25- December 27 , 1979
On motion made by Mr. Douglass, seconded by Mr. Grigonis,
it was
RESOLVED, that the next meeting of the Southold Town Board
of Appeals be scheduled for Thursday, January 17 , 1980 at 7 : 30
o 'clock P.M. , and that the following applications be advertised
for a public hearing at the below specified times for the next
meeting:
7 :30 P.M. LARSON, Robert F. , Appeal No. 2658 , for per-
mission to keep pony & horse for personal use
with less than 40 , 000 square feet devoted to
such use on subject premises , and for permis-
sion to construct accessory stable in frontyard
area. Location of property: Nassau Point Road
and Bridge Lane, Cutchogue; Nassau Point Amended
Map A, Lots 130 and 129 .
7 :40 P.M. BERG, Sol (by John Bertani Builder Inc . ) , Appeal
No. 2659, for permission to construct accessory
structure in frontyard area. Location of proper-
ty: 'N/s Pine Neck Road, Southold. County Tax
Map Item No. 1000-70-6-33 .
7 : 50 P.M. WADDINGTON, Robert Jr. (by Richard F. Lark, Esq. )
Appeal No. 2655., for permission to construct
dwelling with insufficient frontyard setback and
for approval of access. Location of property:
Miami Ave and Sound View Avenue (private street) ,
Peconic. County Tax Map Item No. 1000-67-6-16 .
8 : 05 P.M. KONTOKOSTA, Emanuel M. (by Richard F. Lark, Esq. )
Appeal No. 2579, for permission to construct
28-unit complex with motel units & coffee shop.
Location of property: E/s Shipyard Lane, East
Marion. County Tax Map Item No. 1000-38-7-
part of Lot 4 .
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Messrs. Douglass, Grigonis and
Doyen. Absent : Messr. Tuthill .
On motion made by Mr. Douglass, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it
was
RESOLVED, that regarding the application of ROBERT F. LARSON,
Appeal No. 2658 for permission to keep pony & horse for personal
use on dwelling premises with less than 40 , 000 square feet devoted
for such use, and for permission to construct accessory stable in
frontyard area, Article III, Sections 100-30 and 100-32 , this
Board has, after review of the Environmental Assessment Short Form
submitted with this application, determined that this project if
implemented as planned is classified as a Type II Action not having
a significant effect on the environment pursuant to Section 617 .13
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of the New York State Environmental Quality Review Act and Section
44-4B of the Southold Town Code.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Douglass, Grigonis and
Doyen. Absent: Messr . Tuthill.
On motion made by Mr. Douglass , seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it
was
RESOLVED, that regarding the application of SOL BERG (by
John Bertani Builder Inc. ) , Appeal No. 2659 for permission to
construct accessory structure in frontyard area, Article III,
Section 100-32 , this Board has, after review of the Environmental
Assessment Short. Form and relative documents submitted with this
application, determined that this project if implemented as planned
is classified as a Type II Action not having a significant effect
on , the environment pursuant to Section 617 .13 of the New York
State Environmental Quality Review Act and Section 44-4B of
the Southold Town Code.
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Messrs . Douglass , Grigonis and
Doyen. Absent: Messr. Tuthill .
On motion made by Mr. Douglass , seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it
was
RESOLVED, that regarding the application of ROBERT WADDINGTON,
JR. (by Richard F. Lark, Esq. , P.O. Box 973 , Cutchogue, New York
11935) Appeal No. 2655 , for permission to construct dwelling with
insufficient frontyard setback and for approval of access , Article
III, Section 100-31 and New York Town Law Section 280A, this Board
has, after review of the Environmental Assessment Short Form and
relative documents submitted with this application, determined
that this project if implemented as planned is classified as a
Type II Action not having a significant effect on the environment
pursuant to Section 617 .13 of the New York State Environmental
Quality Review Act and Section 44-4B of the Southold Town Code.
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Messrs. Douglass,. Gr-igonis and
Doyen. Absent: Messr. Tuthill.
An informal discussion was. held regarding two appeal appli-
cations recently filed with the- Town Clerk, to wit, Appeal Nos.
2656 and 2657 . The Board instructed the secretary to advise
the applicant, Fishers Island Development Corp.. by Richard F.
Lark, Esq. that it should first apply to the Southold Town
Planning Board for its preliminary recommendation and/or final
approval of the proposed minor subdivisions before the Board of
Appeals could consider these applications.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -27- December 27 , 1979
On motion made by Mr. Douglass,, seconded by Mr. Grigonis,
it was
RESOLVED, that the meeting of this Board be declared closed
at 10 : 00 P.M.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Douglass , Grigonis and
Doyen. Absent: Messr. Tuthill .
Respectfully submitted,
niCZ'CU� .
Mrs. L.F. Kowalski, Secretary
APPROVED.
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