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T Southold Town Board of Appeals
SOUTHOLD, L. I., N. Y. 11971
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APPEALS BOARD
MEMBERS
ROBERT W.GILLISPIE,JR.,CHAIRMAN M I N U T E S
CHARLES GRIGONIS,JR.
SERGE DOYEN,JR. Southold Town Board of Appeals
TERRY TUTH I LL
ROBERT J.DOUGLASS March 22 , 1979
A regular meeting of the Southold Town Board of Appeals was held
at 7 :30 P.M. (E.S .T. ) Thursday, March 22 , 1979 , at the Town Hall,
Main Road, Southold, New York.
There were present: Messrs : Robert W. Gillispie, Jr. , Chairman;
Charles Grigonis, Jr. ; Serge Doyen, Jr. ; Terry Tuthill and Robert J.
Douglass..
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2425 - Upon application of John Gaston,
Equestrian Avenue, Fishers Island, New York, for a variance in accor-
dance with the Zoning Ordinance, Article III , Section 100-31 and the
Bulk Parking Schedule for permission to divide property with insuf-
ficient width and insufficient area. Location of property: Equestrian
Avenue, Fishers Island, New York, bounded on the north by Hay Harbor;
east by Staunton; south by Equestrian Avenue; west by Coffey.
The Chairman opened the hearing: by reading the application for a
variance to the Zoning Ordinance, legal notice of hearing, affidavits
attesting to its publication in the, official:-newspapers, and disapproval
from the Building Inspector. The Chairman also read a statement from
the Town Clerk that notification by Certified Mail had been made to:
Wendell Fenton and others; Onolee Coffee and others. Fee paid $15. 00 .
THE CHAIRMAN: The application is accompanied by a photostatic copy
of a survey labelled Plan of Property of John Gaston, Fishers Island,
New York.:, It appears that the applicant has an irregularly shaped par-
cel, which is approximately 442 on the westerly line. I do not think
the easterly line is quite parallel to the westerly line. The easterly
line is ,339--7-5-feet long. The distance between these two lines is
119 feet'*o,_n"Equestrian Avenue, but somewhat less than that if the
Equestrian Avenue connection was- at right angles to the side yards,
which it' isn't. It is somewhat less than that. Say, 110 feet as a
guess . It looks as though the northerly end of the property is just a
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little narrower. The applicant has one house presently a few feet
from Equestrian Avenue, which is the existing main house. Is that
the one he is talking about giving to his children?
MR. DOYEN: Yes , there is a house here, here, and here. (pointing
to the survey) . He plans on putting this one out here.
THE CHAIRMAN: Our representative from Fishers Island indicates
that there are three closely spaced houses to the east. An additional
cottage is on the applicant ' s property and probably not more than 50
fqt from the existing main house. The proposal is to either move
that cottage and rebuild it to the north or tear down the old cottage
and build a new one. The applicant has a very unusual division. He
suggests the new house be on about 3/4 of the land. We are not aware
of why he wants to do it this way. Is there anyone who wishes to
speak for the application?
MR. DOYEN: It is the first time I have seen this application,
although this afternoon it was brought to my attention that it was to
be divided more or less in this manner. I can understand why. This
gives him all this back yard here that is very useful. If you divide
it this other way, you are not going to get the usage. This is all
presupposing that he is going to remove this cottage.
MR. DOUGLASS : He said in his application that he was . It is
right here on the survey.
MR. DOYEN: He said he is , but he did not have to. That is the
point. Suppose he comes back and says he is not going to do this .
Then we would have to change the division lines. I do not see why
we should penalize him for telling us what he is going to do ahead of
time. I think that is a very equitable division. Suppose you divide
that across and these two houses are on the front parcel of land and
he does not remove the cottage. Are you going to get a court order
and make him remove the cottage?
MR. DOUGLASS : If he wants 'to divide it, he has to move it.
THE CHAIRMAN: Right.
MR. DOYEN: We have never,: ever in 25 years refused anybody a
division of land:Wi;th houses located on the land by asking him to move
them.
THE CHAIRMAN: No, that 's true. But that is not what he asked for.
But he has a plot plan here for a new cottage.
MR. DOYEN: He cannot put that there without some variances . He
can' t get a building permit now to put 'that there.
THE CHAIRMAN: He can if this variance is granted.
MR. DOYEN: He doesn' t even have the side yard requirements .
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THE CHAIRMAN: All you need- is 15 feet on one side and 20 on the
other.
MR. DOYEN: If you saw the land it drops off here.
THE ..CHAIRMAN: Then, he will- have, to come back in. . -
MR. DOYEN: As you can see from this photograph, it falls off right
here. I was just saying I don't see anything wrong with the division.
THE CHAIRMAN: I do. It is. a very odd shaped division. This is
the main house. It would be on less than a 1/4 of an acre. Where the
man has a full acre,, it could be divided more evenly. What he says
here about his children, that is fine. But tomorrow he might sell to
someone .else.
MR-:�-TUTHILL: Is he looking for a two way division or .a three way
division?
THE CHAIRMAN: Two way.
MR. TUTHILL: ' Just this odd lot , here?
THE CHAIRMAN: - He has a main house and a cottage down by the road.
The lot is 400 feet deep.
MR. TUTHILL: So, he is not asking to divide it this way?
MR. DOYEN: Would you divide the property with, -the condition that
he doesn't get the divisiorit.;unless he demolishes the house?
THE CHAIRMAN: Removes or demolishes the house. Sure. You can't
have it both ways.
MR. DOYEN: I think you could unless you change. our procedure. That
house is already there.
THE CHAIRMAN: But that is not what he asked for. He wants toi(�d'vde
the property this way because he has a situation with his , firSt. wife
and his second wife. He doesn't. want them too close together. It' s very
simple.
MR. DOYEN: But they will not be any closer together if you give
him any division. If he is going to- put the house where it is drawn,
it will not be any closer. He is going to get as far away as he can.
The point I am making is that if he came and asked for a divis_ion__and
did not tell us"what he was going to ,do;, we�would almost certainly, . -
give him what he asked for. So we are not going to give him what he
asked for 'because he was good enough to ,tel'1 us what he was going to
do..
THE CHAIRMAN: He wants to build a bigger house.
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MR. DOYEN: I do not think we should penalize anyone for telling
us what he wants to do.
THE CHAIRMAN: I do not understand what your point is Serge.
MR. DOYEN: He asked for the division as it is there. If he did
not tell us that he wanted to demolish one house and build another
in its place on this lot.over here, we would divide it most likely
as he asked for it. Therefore , if he had not said anything, we
would have divided it the way he asked for it. I don't see how it
can be more simple than that.
THE CHAIRMAN: Without restraints.
MR. DOYEN: Right. If he came in cold and asked for it, we would
have done it.
THE CHAIRMAN: We might have done it that way.
MR. DOUGLASS : You could still divide it so it is a half acre in
each parcel.
MR. DOYEN: Not with that other house there you couldn 't.
MR. DOUGLASS : You can't do it with a 1/3 of an acre with one house
and 2/3 with the other.
MR. DOYEN: You want to make him move the house then?
MR. DOUGLASS : No.
MR.- DOYEN: There is no equitable way to divide the land unless you
move the house.
THE CHAIRMAN: You would have an even odder situation if you did
that.
MR. DOYEN: That would not be logical. If he came in cold, this
was the only logical division. Sure if you want to gerrymander it all
around.
MR. DOUGLASS : You have an acre of land here. The whole surrounding
area has lots that are from 1/2 acre parcels to acre parcels.
MR. DOYEN: Over there, no sir.
MR. DOUGLASS : On the tax map it is.
MR. DOYEN: They have stuff there that is not even an 1/8th of an
acre.
THE CHAIRMAN: A lot of it is washed away on these maps here.
MR. DOYEN: That area has some of the smallest plots on the island.
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THE CHAIRMAN: If you look at this map, you can see the acreage.
MR. DOYEN: Does it show the houses that are there? There are
three houses on that lot. The actual _land with each house. These
are all non-conforming houses. In that area there are houses that
are on postage stamps.
THE CHAIRMAN.: This, parcel does have a depth of 443 feet. Or are
we talking about land under water?
MR. DOYEN: There is the photograph here which shows that part of
this land is _swamp. Out here it is not usable at all. It falls off.
This is half way.
THE CHAIRMAN: You do have some high land to work with.
MR. DOYEN: Sure , but a 1/3 of the land along here is tidal.
MR. DOUGLASS : The line shows right on here.
MR. DOYEN: But actually there is more tidal land than the map
shows. I had not seen the application before.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is this the cottage?
MR. DOYEN: No , it is the big house. Here is the main house looking
back from the water. This is the front of the cottage. This is the
road side, if you will. This is the opposite side looking back again.
If you look at this picture you can get a good idea of how the land
falls off.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone else who wishes to speak for this
application? (there was no response) . Is there anyone who wishes to
speak against this application? (there was no response) .
MR. DOUGLASS : I still would .like to see the division with a half
acre in each. parcel.
MR. TUTHILL: I have not seen this , but what is the area in each
of the lots as proposed in the application.
THE CHAIRMAN: Well according to the sketch, there is about 20 , 000
square feet or a little better in each lot. The adjoining lots look
about the same or a little smaller in some cases. Along the shore line
the houses are very close together and on the old maps you would think
the land ran out 200 or 300 feet, but it doesn't. I don' t know what
happened to it, but it is gone.
MR. DOYEN: That is what happened to the house near the ferry. A
1/3 of it is under water.
THE CHAIRMAN: What we are saying is that this house will be removed
and/or moved and made into a new cottage. The land shall be divided
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approximately equally subject to a survey that they will have to
furnish us.
MR. DOYEN: There is only one thing wrong with that. You are
dividing it in a manner that can not be used. If you have half
here, that part is not equally as usable as this lot. That portion
is just swamp land.
MR. DOUGLASS : It is not that bad, Serge.
MR. DOYEN: As far as use goes , it is not an equitable division.
THE CHAIRMAN: What do you suggest?
MR. .DOYEN:t : I don't think there is anything wrong with what he
has requested in his application.
THE CHAIRMAN: I do.
MR. DOYEN: As far as I know, he may be very happy with what you
propose. I don't know.
THE CHAIRMAN: When we first looked at this , we thought it was
a cesspool area here and the division lines were drawn to accomodate
that. But the septic tank would be on the parcel with the cottage.
When you talked to the architect today, did he indicate anything
that would help us?
MR. DOYEN: No, I just told him that the Board would divide the
land the way they thought was most equitable for whoever owned the
property in the future. I did not tell him what the outcome would
be. He asked me if he should be here. He didn't want to come, be-
cause presumably he had some other business. I asked him if he had
anything to add to the application? He said no. I just assumed it
would be very simple_. I didn't know they had such a weird division.
THE CHAIRMAN: I think the Board has agreed that it should be ap-
proximately an even division. That the division should extend from
east to west with a half acre north and a half acre south. The new
house located on the northerly half , and the new house will be com-
posed of a brand new dwelling or the old cottage removed from its
present location, remodeled at the location shown on the survey.
MR. DOUGLASS : I will make a motion to that effect.
MR. TUTHILL: If you divided it across into two , half acre parcels
then with one sections having more wetlands than the other, then we
would have to make some allowance for that.
THE CHAIRMAN: . Let him come back to' .us if he needs more relief.
MR. TUTHILL: It seems to me that .you cannot go by the square footage.
MR. DOYEN: I would like to leave this open to see what his reasoning
is for asking for the division in this manner.
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THE CHAIRMAN: Would you like to postpone it? Are they in a hurray?
MR. DOYEN: No, I do not think they are overly concerned with that.
I don't think that three weeks will make much difference.
On motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded by Mr. Grigonis , it was
RESOLVED, that the decision on Appeal No. 2425 be POSTPONED
until 7 :40 P.M. on April 12 , 1979 .
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Messrs : Gillispie, Grigonis, Doyen,
Tuthill and Douglass.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2527 - Upon application of Robert V.
and Annette S. Rider, c/o John Nickles , Southold, New York, for a
variance in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance, Article III , Section
100-30 and Bulk Parking Schedule for permission to divide property into
two lots with insufficient width and a variance in accordance with Town
Law, Section 280A for approval of access. Location of property: Wig-
wam Way; Southold, New York, bounded on the north by Wigwam Way; east
by Minnehaha Boulevard, Laughing Waters Association, and the Town of
Southold; south by Little Peconic Bay; west by H. Smith, Frank Bear,
M. Morris and E. Yankee:.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the application for a
variance to the Zoning Ordinance, legal notice of hearing, affidavits
attesting to its publication in the official newspapers, and disapproval
from the Building Inspector. The Chairman also read a statement from
the Town Clerk that notification by Certified Mail had been made to:
H. J. Smith, Frank Bear, Grace Bitz , Melvin Morris , Edward Yankee.
Fee paid: $15 . 00 .
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone who wishes to speak for this appli-
cation?
JOHN NICKLES : I would just like to point out that I am an elected
official of the Town of Southold, but I am not appearing in that capa-
city, but as the agent of the Riders. I have filed with the Board a
disclosure statement .with. the Chairman. I don't think we have anything
to add to our application, but we would be happy to answer any questions
the members might have.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone else who wishes to add anything for
this application? (there was no response) . Is there anyone who wishes
to speak against this application? (there was no response. ) Does any-
one have any questions?
MR. TUTHILL: I would just like to see the proposed division.
These would be by far the largest lots in the area.
MR. NICKLES : That' s right, we tried to point that out in the
application.
THE CHAIRMAN: A good portion of this is under water though, isn' t
it?
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MR. NICKLES : If you look at the survey, you will see that it, is
approximately 250 feet by 550 feet which is above land. Then there
is an inlet, which is an extension of Corey Creek that comes in up
to the Nunnakoma subdivision. There is then a considerable amount
of .beach front out on the bay.
THE CHAIRMAN: One of the things about looking at maps , but you
might find that the actual terrain is quite different than what is
on the map. When we were down there we realized. . . . . .
MR. NICKLES : Oh, some of it is underwater, but there is enough
land left. It would still be in excess of the current requirements.
MR. TUTHILL: There is 7-1'/2 acres of property.
MR. NICKLES : That is the size of the property. The upland gor-
tion is this area in here and would still be more than enough.
MR.:' DOUGLASS : The main house is on:.---one parcel already.
THE CHAIRMAN: You have an existing house?
MR.' NICKLES : You will notice the property has a main structure
and three out buildings. There are some pine trees planted down the
middle that Mr. Hallock planted. Mr. Hallock was an attorney and must
have contemplated at some time selling this other half of the property
MR. TUTHILL: I don't think they would be this near the line.
THE CHAIRMAN: Who built the house originally.
MR. NICKLES : Originally, I don't know. John Hallock who was an
attoney in Riverhead for years until the time he passed away owned it.
THE CHAIRMAN: Mr. and Mrs. Rider are going to buy the house parcel
or are they going to buy the vacant land?
MR. NICKLES : They already purchased it, Mr. Gillispie. They pur-
chased the entire seven acres .
THE CHAIRMAN: You are asking us to set this off?
MR. GRIGONIS : There is an access_ in from Minnehaha Boulevard to
this property.
THE- CHAIRMAN: Minnehaha is a public road?
MR. NICKLES : Yes. Also so you have a little of' the history. This
originally was a 20 foot right-of-way. I don 't know who- it belonged to.
It serviced this seven. acres. In 1946 Mr. Hallock purchased the land
the right-of-way was on. So that was a separate right-of-way in off
Minnehaha.
THE CHAIRMAN: Separately from his original purchase?
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MR. NICKLES : Right. So he added another 20 feet by 250 feet onto
the property. This right-of-way, by the way, goes up, I don't know
the name of this road and out the back of it. It leads out to South
Harbor Road. Unfortunately, I don't know what that means .
THE CHAIRMAN: Is that going to be extinguished?
MR. NICKLES : It isn't extinguished?
THE CHAIRMAN: Then it is still used?
MR. NICKLES : Yes .
MR. TUTHILL: It exists on paper, but it is overgrown.
MR. NICKLES : No, when they divided Nunnekoma Waters, they could
not make a lot where this right-of-way is. They left a space there.
I don't think Mr. Rider is concerned about using this right-of-way
out thru Nunnekoma Waters.
MR. TUTHILL: That was my only concern. They have plenty of access.
MR. NICKLES : This is the access we-f-are concerned about.
MR. TUTHILL: There is no described right-of-way that runs through
that area.
MR. NICKLES : No one has the use of this right-of-way, but Mr. Rider.
He owns this property.
THE CHAIRMAN: What about these people along in here?
MR. NICKLES : They have their own right-of-way, Wampum Way.
THE CHAIRMAN: I thought you said they came along this way?,
MR. NICKLES : I 'm saying Mr. Rider ' s property had this right-of-way
but then they purchased the land the right-of-way was over. So in
effect this is no longer a right-of-way. ..
THE CHAIRMAN: That doesn't mean they can extinguish the access . It
was just a point of information
MR. NICKLES : If I understand your question, he bought the land.
THE CHAIRMAN: These people still have a right-of-way over . . . .
MR. NICKLES : These other people have nothing to do with it.
MR. DOUGLASS : The only people who could use that right-of-way were
the owners of the seven acres.
MR. NICKLES : No, they never did have the right. This property had
a ;.right-of-way over this 20 feet of property. In 1946 Mr. Hallock pur-
chased this additional property. This other was part of the Mott Estate,
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and Mr. Mott ' s.-property is where the Wampum Way is.
THE CHAIRMAN: Hallock then, bought this separately? .Formerly this
was used also to service -thi's area up'. here?
MR. NICKLES : Mr. Hallock used it to come and go out this way - out
to South Harbor.. .
THE CHAIRMAN: Legally,. or illegally?
MR. NICKLES : Legally.
MR.. TUTHILL: , It is described in the, legal papers. As long as he
is not looking for access on that.
THE CHAIRMAN: It is a very simple problem, .but I was just curious
about the history.
MR. NICKLES,: If .this were not. a private road, we would not need
access . Because it would be ,a public road, and Mr. Rider would have
- it., As I understand it the only reason we are asking for approval of
access ,is'-because we-are dividing it, and we need the approval to go
from one parcel to the other.
THE CHAIRMAN That is �correct. Because you do not have access over
this other road, do you?
MR. NICKLES: No, it is private,.
THE CHAIRMAN: These roads were private originally, weren't they?
MR., NICKLES : Yes, but , I believe they 'are town roads now.
THE CHAIRMAN: Then I think the only thing we "have to, do is specify
what the access has to be., What I am trying to resolve in my own ,mind
'is the new requirements that we have on accesses. Here is a case where
you can reach this property with a fire truck or emergency vehicle from
'additional roads . Of course, they are private roads. I don't think we
need a condition here concerning drainage, but we will put .it in anyway.
MR. TUTHILL: As_ a ptactical matter, what part of .the access are
you saying 'should be surfaced?.
THE CHAIRMAN: Where it isn't indicated, you can do whatever portion
that you want. to.
MR. TUTHILL: All these private roads are. black topped. I was ' just
trying to figure out where the stone blend would go.
THE CHAIRMAN: You must have a width of 15 feet.
MR., TUTHILL: You mean along this right-of-way?
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MR. TUTHILL: That seems like a waste when you have a road along
the boundary of the property.
MR. DOUGLASS : They don't have a right-of-way over this property.
THE CHAIRMAN: A fire truck or emergency vehicle would be able to
use Wigwam Way.
MR. NICKLES : There is access to the property from Wigwam Way.
I 'm sure we have driven that way many times.
MR. DOUGLASS: It is not a legal right-of-way.
MR. NICKLES: You can use it until someone tells you not to.
THE CHAIRMAN: You think this is superfluous , Terry?
MR. TUTHILL: As a practical matter, I think it is superfluous.
Actually to picture this with a good, hard surfaced road in Wigway
Way, although it it private. It seems ridiculous to improve this
road which is just a farm road. Who would stop them from using Wigwam
Way?
MR. NICKLES : The Property Owners Association.
THE CHAIRMAN: There may be trees blocking the way also.
MR. NICKLES: I think the road is passable. I think brush and trees
might have to be trimmed back, but the former property owner used it.
THE CHAIRMAN: If we approve this at all , it will have to be improved.
It will have to accomodate emergency vehicles. As I understand it,
some of the vehicles can weigh up to 35 tons. When you get a heavy
truck like that on topsoil, it will just sink down.
MR. TUTHILL: Chances are that if a truck went in there they would
go in Wigwam Way and not even use the right-of-way.
THE CHAIRMAN: This is why I say this is an unusual situation since
you have two, private rights-of-way along side of each other. One of
them needs to be improved, and the other is already improved.
MR. TUTHILL: Mr. Rider, did you intend to improve the surface of
that right-of-way?
MR. ROBERT RIDER: The driveway has already been improved. I had
Ray Nine put gravel. I figured I would have him put gravel on the
right-of-way there. I would like to keep that private.
MR. TUTHILL: Then you would not object to these requirements?
MR. RIDER: No, it sounded like it was a little more expensive than
I' thought it would be.
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THE CHAIRMAN: We have been getting more and more access'- appli-
cations lately, and we have found that we have had. to spend more
.time setting up guidelines for these accesses. How far is your house
from this right-of-way?
MR. RIDER: About 150 feet of driveway from the right-of-way.
THE CHAIRMAN: - Would your driveway be able to handle' a fire truck?
MR. RIDER: I would say so.
MR. TUTHILL: He has gravel there.
THE CHAIRMAN: What I am getting at now .is how close to the struc-
ture are we going to go? Do you have to come to the driveway to make
it accessible for fire vehicles? This .is not defined anywhere.
MR. RIDER: The driveway comes right to the main structure now.
MR. TUTHILL: I would think this section here on the farm road
would be more important, but they have this road here, Wigwam Way.
MR. DOYEN: They do not .have legal access over that.
THE CHAIRMAN: The Building Inspector cannot issue a building permit
until this access matter is settled. In discussing a lot that has an
access which is 1,000 feet long which merely gives access to the lot.
Do you require that the right-of-way be improved the entire length?
MR. TUTHILL: This private right-of-way section certainly ought
to be accessible winter or summer to fire equipment.
MR. RIDER: There is heavy equipment going in and out there now.
THE CHAIRMAN: Do these trucks go over the access you are asking
for?
MR. RIDER: No, they go over Wigwam Way.
THE CHAIRMAN: Do you have the right to use that?
MR. RIDER: I didn't know until tonight that I didn't have access
over Wigwam Way.
THE CHAIRMAN: I don't think you would be here tonight if you had
access over Wigwam Way.
MR. TUTHILL: This property goes right up to Wigwam doesn't it?
MR. NICKLES : The access he is requesting abuts Wigmwam Way.
THE CHAIRMAN: I would say in this case that maybe we could reduce
this from 15 feet to 10 feet.
MR. DOUGLASS : I would not go along with that.
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MR.NICKLES : Wouldn't it be reasonable to improve the road from
Minnehaha Boulevard to this second parcel here?
MR. GRIGONIS : That' s what I agree with. Up to the driveway.
MR. GRIGONIS : I would say from Minnehaha Boulevard up to the
division of the property.
THE CHAIRMAN: Up to the last 2 or 3 weeks , we have delivered a
person to his driveway and then dropped him. Suppose the structure
is 500 feet from his driveway. It burns down or an ambulance cannot
get down there.
MR. GRIGONIS : You can't make a man do that.
MR. DOYEN: We are not charged with that responsibility.
THE CHAIRMAN: Yes , we are. We are charged under Section 280A
to determine what constitutes proper access.
MR. DOYEN: Access to a lot or access to a structure.
MR. GRIGONIS : If a man lives on the sound and has a driveway to
his house that is a mile long you cannot expect him to improve that.
We 've laid hose for 1500 feet. You would not have any water hook-up
for them down there.
THE CHAIRMAN: Now if this right-of-way was just improved for the
width of the first lot, the rest would be useless , wouldn't it? Be-
cause there is no way to get over to the present house.
MR. NICKLES : I just said to Mr. Rider that in the future if he
sold this property for that price, the new owners would be improving
the right-of-way himself.
THE CHAIRMAN: If you sell this vacant lot, will,,;,you keep the
house?
MR. NICKLES : Mr. Rider has no plans to sell the property.
MR . NICKLES : We do not want to sell.
THE CHAIRMAN: Are you going to live there?
MRS . .RIDER• We are renovating it now.
MR. NICKLES : If you had driven down the driveway you would have
seen that the house is all raised up and they are putting in a new
foundation.
MR. DOUGLASS _ We were there, I have pictures of it.
THE CHAIRMAN: Well , let' s compromise. We will have him improve it
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across the first lot. Of course, if we leave it there, we ' hav& a
gap between that lot and the driveway to the house. ' It is all over-
grown, right?
MR. NICKLES: I have driven down that with my car.
THE CHAIRMAN: Take a look. We have pictures there. . Have you
been over that right-of-way?
MR. NICKLES : Yes , I have driven down there.
MR._ DOUGLASS : . Not the one parallel to Wigwam Way.
MR. NICKLES : Yes, you can. I have done that.
MR. DOUGLASS : Charlie walked in .-it the other day. Somebody started
to make a road out of it at some time.
MR. NICKLES : That road has been .there for 50 years. That was
Mr. Hallock' s driveway into his property.
THE CHAIRMAN: What we would be requiring here is a road across
the headland of the property. You are not using it ,now to go in and
out, are you?
MR RIDER: Yes , sir.
THE -CHAIRMAN: You used this driveway all winter?
MR. RIDER: Yes. I 'm talking about this dirt road because there
were trees hanging over that .l- had to take down. Now I had originally
planned to have Ray Nine put gravel down the whole length of the right
of-way. When I get through with the construction, I plan to put a
tree here. I just have not gotten all the saplings out yet.
THE CHAIRMAN: You have been using the Wigwam Way right-of-way.
8 When you finish your construction you are going to plant a tree there
so no one can come in on your right-of-way, i.s. that what you plan?
MR: RIDER: Yes , to make it a little more private.
MR. TUTHILL: It looks as though he is on the way to doing what we
require now.
MR. DOUGLASS : I think he should be required to improve the right-
of-way to his driveway. He had planned on doing it anyway.
MR. .TUTHILL: I agreec=-with that.
THE CHAIRMAN: Charlie, what do you think. The right-of-way would
run the width of the property along the headland to the driveway.
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MR. GRIGONIS : As far as I am concerned, that is enough.
MR. NICKLES : You are talking about the entire north end of the
property?
THE CHAIRMAN: Yes.
MR. DOUGLASS : Tie it to the driveway you have now.
MR. TUTHILL: On the western end of your property.
. MRS ' RIDER: You want the: entire right-of-way .. improved the way
you stated before?
THE .CHAIRMAN: We . gave your husband the specifications .
MR.- NICKLES ' Bob, what do .you', estimate the cost of this would be?
MR. DOUGLASS : What he has had Ray Nine do with the gravel will
cost about the same with the 3/4 inch stone blend that we .specify.
It is easier to put down and will not move around.
MR. NICKLES : Stone blend .is a mixture of blue stones?
MR. DOUGLASS : It is a mixture of blue stone and dust.
THE CHAIRMAN: You_ can put, it right on top of topsoil: You do not
have to strip the topsol"_first. It is harder.
MR. TUTHILL: With a gravel base you would never get a pothole in
it.
MR. DOUGLASS : This stone blend is better. Gravel kicks out from
underneath you. This never moves.
THE CHAIRMAN: We. have looked at' qu' ite a few of these stone blend
arrangements . They are good.
MR.�<;DOUGLASS : I am sure Ray Nine has used it.
THE CHAIRMAN: That way you do not have a problem disposing of the
topsoil.
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that the applicant
wishes to divide a 7. 48 acre parcel of land into two lots.. Each lot
will have -frontage on a private right-of-way, which runs parallel to
Wampum Way.c �The lot to be created which has the main dwelling on it will
have 148 . 50 feet of frontage and the vacant lot will have 127 . 95 feet.
The applicant also requests recognition of access for these lots due
to the fact he is not entitled to access over Wampum Way. The Board
agrees with the reasoning of the applicant. Each lot will contain 3 acres
in acreage..
The',Board finds that -strict a.ppl cat-ion' df- the- Ordinance would pro-
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duce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship; the hardship
created is unique and would not be shared by all properties alike in
the Ammediate vicinity of the property and in the same use district;
and the variance will not change the character of the neighborhood
and will observe the spirit of the Ordinance.
On motion' by Mr. Gillispie, seconded by Mr. Douglass., it was
RESOLVED, that Robert V. Rider and Annette S. Rider, be granted
permission to divide property with insufficient width and recognition
of access. Location of property: Wigwam Way, Southold, New York,
bounded on the north by Wigwam Way; east by Minnehaha Boulevard,
Laughing Waters Association and the Town of Southold; south by' Little
Peconic Pay; west by H. Smith, Frank Bear, M. Morris and E. , Yankee,
subject to the following conditions :
(1) Such access shall have a width of not less than 1.5 feet;
. (2) Such access road shall be cleared of all trees, brush and other ,
obstructions to a width of 15 feet:
(3) Such access road shall be improved in either of the . following
methods:
(a) Such access road shall be- surfaced with a minimum depth
of 4 inches of _packed 3/4 inch stone blend so- as. to afford access for
emergency vehicles. Such stone blend"_inay be ,either; applied to the
ground surface and shaped or the surface may be excavated. to permit
the application of packed blend to a depth of 4 inches.
(b) The access road shall have topsoil removed to a depth of
8 inches and then filled with 8 inches of a good grade of stone and
sand bank run. The surface shall then be covered with a. layer of 2
inches to 4 inches of 3/4 stone blend, _ _ -
�(c) The access road shall be oiled with a minimum of 4/10ths
of a gallon of road oil per square yard.
(4) All work required as hereinbefore set forth shall be -performed
under the supervision of the, Town Engineer and no building permits or
certificates of occupancy shall be issued by the Building Inspector
until the Town Engineer has certified that such access road has been
constructed in accordance with. the foregoing requirements.
(5) Where the terrain of the land over which such access road is
to traverse is such that drainage problems may occur, the applicant
shall be required to construct such drainage facilities as may be
recommended by the Town Engineer.
(6) The Board of Appeals may in passing upon any appeal for
approval of access make any reasonable exception as in its judgment
it deems appropriate to the circumstances.
Vote of the Board; Ayes: Messrs : Gillispie, Grigonis, 'Doyen,
Tuthill and Douglass.
.SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD OF APPEALS -17- March 22 , 1979
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2526 - Upon application of Kodros
Spyropoulos , 40-28 82nd Street, Jackson Heights , New York, for a
variance in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section
100-32 for permission to construct. a deck in the side yard area. Lo-
cation of property: Private Road (Hyatt Road) , Southold, New York,
bounded on the north by Long Island Sound; east by Reise; south by
Private Road (Hyatt Road) ; west by Wurtz .
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the application for a
variance to the Zoning Ordinance, legal notice of hearing, affidavits
attesting to its publication in the official newspapers ,. and disapproval
from the Building Inspector. The Chairman also read a statement from
the Town Clerk that notifidation by certified mail had been made to:
Mr. Michael Reise and Mr. W. Wurtz. Fee paid $15. 00.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone who wishes to speak for this appli-
cation?
RUDOLPH BRUER: On behalf of the applicant. I wish to say before I
start that I did not prepare the application. I was retained two days
ago. I have been to Dr. Spyropoulos ' this afternoon and observed the
condition and it is a deck which the applicant would like to keep.
Apparently he started to construct it, the Building Inspector was
informed of it because he did not have a permit, he went for the building
permit and the Inspector informed him that he could not have the permit
because he needed a variance. This all started last spring. He is
a doctor and does not get out here that often. I think the deck helps
the premises. It is not the prettiest deck I have ever seen. It
does enhance the approueh =tb the sound and the exit way from the side
door. I think it is logical in the way it is sitting there. It creates
a larger area to serve the rear yard, and we respectfully request that
the application be granted.
THE CHAIRMAN: Were you ever able to figure out why this was denied.
An accessory structure is normally permitted in the rear yard. I think
the tecnical rear yard is toward the sound. The place where this deck
was useful is in the adjoining side yard. How close does this come to
his lot line? We do not have a survey, and it was hard to see when
we were there.
MR. BRUER: I think there is a hedge that is the property line.
Some bushes. I think it is close to the side yard line. I don't
believe that it goes over into the neighbor ' s yard.
MICHAEL REISE: Sir, I am the owner of the other property, and I
know where the lot line is. It is about 4 feet from the deck. The
side line is where the woods begin. We own, of course, down to the
water. We have never developed that corner. We just let it grow wild.
THE CHAIRMAN: Your house is to the east?
MR. REISE : To the south. When McCabe had that property. It was
all sodded-. and mowed regularly. It has been kept that way ever since.
Just like we have kept our woods. The deck is about 4 feet from the
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beginning of the lawn.
THE CHAIRMAN: What I was going to explain to Mr. Bruer was that
an accessory building is generally permitted in the rear yard. Nor-
mally we like to stay about 3 feet from a property line. This is a
different type of variant. Mr.. -Reise, do you have any plans for that
side area along that property?
MR. REiSE :, Yes, we do. This summer we hope to begin developing
the whole stretch there. Part '.of it has been' cleared 'by our house.
_But the woods will take a little time and a little money. We want
to make it into a garden area. Up6) on the bluff, we already', have a
rose garden. At the moment the intervening area, has nothing but
poison ivy end cherry. tree,s. Real Long Island horticulture if you
please.
THE CHAIRMAN: There are some beautiful holly trees on the doctor ' s
property. .
MR. DOUGLAS.S : Sure.
MR. TUTHILL: Mr. Reise are you Opposing, this application?
MR. REISE: Yes.
THE CHAIRMAN: An accessory building is allowed in the rear yard
. subject to the following conditions: (a) Such building shall not ,
exceed 18 feet in height; (b) Such buildings shall be set back not
less than 3 feet from any lot line; - (c) All such buildings in the
aggregate. shall occupy not more than 40 percent of the area of the
required rear yard. Do you have anything more to "add, Mr. Bruer.
MR, BRUER: I think it makes sense as far as the doctor ' s property
goes. I don't know if Mr. Reise is the neighbor .who .reported Dr.
Spyropoulos to the building department. One of the neighbors did.
It seems tome that with respect to this application it suits this
property better than not having 'it there. The way the property rolls
this is proper and should be granted. I don't think that it hinders
the neighbors property.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to, speak against
this application?
MICHAEL REISE:, I looked at the application, and I will just go
down the reasons if you don 't mind. Some of this will be personal
opinion
THE CHAIRMAN:• You mean ,why he asked for it?
-MR. _B.RUER,c It was my understanding that at one time Dr. Spyropoulos
had""" mason structure around the tree�,s but he was advised that he would
strangle the tree if he left it there. So to sae the tree he took down
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the masonry structure. and replaced it with the deck. The tree
supposedly can breathe as there is enough room between the deck
and the tree:,- That is what he means.
MR. :REI,5E:•` The tree which is about 12 inches in diameter comes
up through the middle of the deck. At that point the deck is about
6 iriches' off the ground.
THE CHAIRMAN: The deck :'ru_ ns from north to south. The south end
of it may be 3 or 4 feet off the ground.
MR. REISE : It is probably more than 6 feet from--Ehe ground.-
MR. GRIGONI5 : It looks `like is about six feet.
MR. BRUER: You can count the blocks in,'-that picture.
MR. REISE: It is quite high off the ground.
MR. BRUER: There is quite a fall off in ,that area, which makes
it logical to have it there.
MR. GRIGONIS : The only thing is he should have some type of railing
around it.
THE. CHAIRMAN: You cannot really tell if there are 4 or 5. courses .
-there. Maybe it is six.
MR. REISE: It is at least waist high. I would not want to step
off it into the hollow.
MR. BRUER: When he says it would be left unaesthetic if he did
not have the deck there., I think it means the deck enhances the yard.
MR. REISE: I would just like to pick up the points the doctor made
one by one. First of all with respect to leaving the tree(..unprotected.-
There aren't that many good trees up there. He has about 5 or 6 good
big, old pines . We have a few large locusts. To do anything which
might hurt a tree, I think is out -of line. I have gotten two different
horticultural opinions today .on what would happen to a tree if you
built a platform around it. One said, I would not do it if I could
get away without doing it. , The other said, .absolutely not. It would
kill the tree, eventually. He did not say the deck would kill the
tree right away. By putting the platform around the tree, ,you are
cutting off water inside the drip line. Now the only real water this
tree can get ,is through this open space. This is a great big, ,tremen
dous tree that needs more water than it. is ,going to get through this
space.
THE CHAIRMAN: Speaking of the hardship to the. tree, 'were_nit those
boards spaced a little. It wasn't a solid deck.
MR. REISE: Deck boards 3 inch by 9 or 10 inch planks. They are not
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spaced that much.
THE CHAIRMAN: I think that 80 to 90 percent of the water could
get to the tree.
MR. REISE: As far as leaving the tree unprotected is concerned.
I assume that he means no one could hit it with a lawn mower. They
Inow the lawn quite often. You would have to crawl under the darn
thing to do that. Pine tree branches would hurt you. As far as
making the area hazardous is concerned. His slope and my slope are
identical. That particular slope runs right along and down into
Lindenmayers. I have been-.-up and down my slope maybe 100 times with
a heavy wheelbarrow full of topsoil. I am no Hercules. I can get
the wheelbarrow up there all right. I do not think it is hazardous .
THE CHAIRMAN: One of the oddities of this application is that
where he started at ground level , he did not have 'a structure, but
where he finished he did because - it is above ground level.
MR. REISE: That' s right because he had to hold the end up. As
far as the unique hardship is concerned, he has a steep condition
next to the main traffic area, mainly from the kitchen to outdoors,
that is not quite so. He has an 8 to 10 foot cement deck attached
to the passageway out of his kitchen door. In other words from his
house to ground is probably 12 feet. That is where that wooden
deck begins . I don't see how that is hazardous. The last question
of no impact to the environment. I cannot buy that. First of all
this is a very sloppy construction job. If you look at the way
the boards are cut off. Facing my property they are just cut off
as if someone just went along with a chain saw and cut, cut, 'cut.
It is pretty unsightly job.
THE CHAIRMAN: That is an interesting objection. One that we
have not run across very much.
MR. REISE: I don't mean to be picky. This is far away from our
house, but we have a deck on the back of our house and we overlook
this area.
THE CHAIRMAN: When you speak of developing the area behind your
house, what do you-mean by that?
MR. REISE: Clearing the underbrush. Planting part of it grass
and flower beds . My wife picked a piece out of HOUSE AND GARDENS
which will probably take me 5 years to do.
THE CHAIRMAN: I personally cannot _buy .your objection. I can see
why you feel that way, but I don 't think it is serious enough or that
the Board can deny the application for the reasons you stated.' Is
there anyone else who would like to speak against this application?
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MR. TUTHILL: I was interested in the comments this gentleman
had here. Frankly, I was going to ask him what objection did he
have? I guess _I_ am thinking along the same lines as Bob is . The
reasons he gives for his application is one thing. Of what I can
see of it, I can't see where it is going to hurt anybody. It may
well be beneficial, as the applicant 'states. I am not about to
go into horticulture.
MR. REISE : As I told you when I -made my objections, they were
mainly personal opinion. It ' s tough to argue against a thing like
this with personal opinion when you fellows are sitting there with
the law. I don 't know the law. The only law I know is that it is
way too close to the lot line. It is in the wrong area, and more-
over the _work was completed.
MR. GRIGONIS : We had no way of telling where the line is.
THE CHAIRMAN: This gentlemen would be the source on that subject.
MR. GRIGONIS : It was probably in all that underbrush.
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that the appli-
cant wishes permission to construct a deck in the side yard area. The
deck has been completed at this time. The deck is not considered a
structure where it starts, but is held up by several courses of cement
blocks which places the deck above ground level. The Board generally
agrees with the reasoning of the applicant.
The Board finds that strict application of the Ordinance would pro-
duce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship; the hardship
created is unique and would not be shared by all properties alike in
the immediate vicinity of the property and in the same use district;
and the variance will not change the character of the neighborhood
and will observe the spirit of the Ordinance.
On motion by Mr.- Gillispie, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it was
RESOLVED, that Kodros Spyropoulos , 40-28 82nd Street, Jackson
Heights , New York, be GRANTED permission to construct a deck in the
side yard area as requested. Location of property: Private Road
(Hyatt Road) , Southold, New York, bounded on the north by Long Island
Sound; east by Reise; south by Private Road (Hyatt Road) ; west by
Wurtz .
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs : Gillispie, Grigonis, Doyen,
Tuthill and Douglass .
An informal discussion was held with .Mrs . Lois Woodhull and her
attorney, Abigail A. Wickham with respect to the right-of-way to their
property from the Main Road, Mattituck, New York. The Board advised
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Mrs. Woodhull they would have to improve the right-of-way in accor-
dance with the new specifications for improving rights-of-way that
the Board has drawn up. She agreed to comply with the specifications.
The Board gave her a copy of these,, and advised her that the formal
decision on this matter will be made at 7 :40 p.m. on Thursday, . April
12 , 1979-
An informal discussion was held with Mr. Harold Walters, Nakomis
Road, Southold, New York, relative to his junk yard situation there.
Mr. Walters claims he does not run a junk yard. He claims he deals
in parts. The reason he has not erected screening is that there is
a covenant in the Laughng-Water_s_'Subdivision which states that no
fencing over 4 feet is allowed. Mr. Walters claims he has removed all
his property from the lot owned by, Mr. Angelo Accardo , which is next
door to his property. The Board is going to reinspect the premises
on April 10 , 19,79 .
On motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded by Mr. Douglass, it was
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Board of Appeals approve minutes
for the ,March,.l, 1979, meeting.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs :' Gillispie, Grigonis, Doyen,
Tuthill and Douglass .
`.D.uring the -•past several months the Board of Appeals has been hearing
a growing-number of applications for recognition of access. After much
discussion and investigation, it was decided that a set of specifications
should, be drawn up and used as guidelines for the improvements of the
rights-of-way.
On motion by Mr. Tuthill , seconded_ by Mr. Grigonis, it was
RESOLVED, that all rights-of-way', private road or other means of
access to one or more parcels of land or buildings shall conform to the
. following requirements :
(1) Such access road shall have a width of no.t less than 15 feet.
(2) , Such access road shall be cleared of all trees, brush and other.
obstructions to a width of 15 feet.
(3) Such access road shall be improved in either of the following
methods:
(a) Such access road shall be surfaced with a minimum depth of
4 inches of packed 3/4 inch stone blend so as to afford access for
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emergency vehicles. Such stone blend may be either applied to the
ground surface & shaped . or the surface may be excavated to permit
the application of packed blend to a depth of 4 inches.
(b) The access road shall have topsoil removed to a depth
of 8 inches and then filled with '8 inches of a good grade of stone
and sand bank run. The surface shall then be covered with a layer of
2 inches to 4 inches of 3/4 inch stone blend.
(c) Oiled with a minimum of 4/10th of a gallon of road oil
per square yard.
(4) All work required as hereinbefore set forth shall be performed
under the supervision of the Town Engineer and no building permits or
certificates of occupancy shall be issued by the Building Inspector
until. the Town Engineer has certified that such access road has been
constructed in accordance with the foregoing requirements.
(5) Where the terrain of the land over which such access road is to
traverse is such that drainage problems may occur, the applicant shall
be required to construct such drainage facilities as may be recommended
by the Town Engineer.
(6) The Board of Appeals may in passing upon any appeal for approval
of access make any reasonable exception as in its judgment it deems
appropriate to the circumstances.
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Messrs : Gillispie, Grigonis, Doyen,
Tuthill and Douglass .
The following 1966 Sign Resolution was Reaffirmed and Restated with
Item 4 , section h modified as follows :
On motion by Mr. Douglass, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it,.was
RESOLVED, as a guide to all concerned about signs on or near public
highways and elsewhere, and in view of letters of notification of sign
violations now in prepareation, the Board of Appeals hereby summarizes
the guiding principles governing the granting or denial of SPECIAL
EXCEPTIONS for signs not specifically covered in the Zoning Ordinance,
subject to the general provisions of the Ordinance applying to all
special exceptions and permissive uses.
1. With Federal , state and local government agencies, the Board
recognizes that the indiscriminate, uncontrolled use of the advertising
signs , and/or other similar devices located on public or private- property
tends to deface the landscape, change the character of the neighborhoo-,
and is against the best interests of the general public of the Town of
Southold, however,
2 . The Board is strongly of the opinion that directional signs for
certain activities are necessarily and demonstrably in the interest of
the travelling public whose goodwill and patronage are necessary to the
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general interest and welfare of the Town.
3 . The travelling public is concerned with obtaining instant.
visual information about where to eat, sleep, and worship, as well
as routes and directions to places of amusement, shopping centers,
a nd ferry connections; the public is not, normally interested in
the ordinary business activities of towns in passing. Local residents
are well aware of local facilities and do not need signs for identi-
fication purposes.
4 . Accordingly, to assist the travelling public and in the interest
of traffic safety, the Board of Appeals has established the following
types of activities for which a reasonable number of off-premises
signs, directional only, may be granted:
a. Motels , hotels, tourist houses.
b. Restaurants and eating places.
C. Churches
d. Ferries , transportation.
e. Residential development signs listing residents.
f. Shopping centers, or business districts .
g. Amusement areas, including marinas , theatres.
h. Temporary signs advertising local civic , charitable
and public activities .
i. Federal, state, county, town owned signs .
Signs for the above may be granted subject to the following condi-
tions :
1. Written permission of property owner for sign erection.
2 . All sign permits are terminable at once at the direction of the
Board of Appeals. This condition is essential in the event the Town
finds a legislative solution to the problem.
3 . Purpose of sign must be directional in the public interest
as distinguished from advertising of products or services . Content
. of sign must be approved. Sizeof sign may not exceed four feet
by six (6) feet. A reasonably accurate sketch of proposed sign must
accompany application.
4 . Signs must be maintained in good condition, otherwise the Board
may in its discretion order removal.
5. The four. (4) foot by six (6) foot size sign has been in effect
since December , 1961. All off-premises directional signs must now
conform.
6 . Locations chosen for directional signs must meet with the
general standards set up in Article VIII.
7 . All signs must be at least five (5) feet from any property
line; three (3) feet above ground level; four (4) feet above ground
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level if the sign is electrical.
In our opinion adequate sign provisions are available in the
Ordinance covering business , agriculture and real estate interests.
In addition provision is made for professionals and "similar prac-
tioners" as well as home occupations , and sign uses customarily
associated with the ownership of property.
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Messrs : Gillispie, Grigonis , Doyen,
Tuthill and Douglass.
On motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it was
RESOLVED that the next meeting of the Southold Town Board of Appeals
will be held on Thursday, April 12 , 1979 , at 7 :30 P.M. (E.S .T. ) and
set the following times on that date as the time and place of hearing
upon the following applications :
7 : 30 P.M. (E.S.T ') Postponed decision on Appeal No. 2515 Richard
and Lois Woodhull , Main Road, Cutchogue, New York, for recognition
of access.
7 :40 P.M. (E.S.T. ) Postponed decision on Appeal No. 2425 John Gaston,
Equestrian Avenue, Fishers Island, New York, for permission to divide
property.
7 : 55 P.M. (E.S .T. ) Upon application of Eugene L. and Judith Fisher,
residing at 400 Majors Path, Southold, New York, for a variance in
accordance with .the Zoning Ordinance, Article III , Section 100-30 C
(5) for permission to have a stable closer than 40 feet to any. lot line
Location of property: Majors Path, Southold, New York, bounded on the
north by K. Mitchell ; east by Tubb; south by Hansen; west by Majors
Path (Private Road) .
8 :15 P.M. (E.S .T. ) Upon application of Ronald H. Roberts c/o First
Towne Realty, Southold, New York, for a variance in accordance with the
Zoning Ordinance, Article III , Section 100-31 and Bulk Parking Schedule
for permission to reduce the front yard setback. Location of property:
Lot No . 151 , Cedar Beach Park, Southold, New York.
8 : 25 P.M. (E.S .T. ) Upon application of Daysman Morris , 2760 Yenne-
cott Drive, Southold, New York, for a variance in accordance with the
Zoning Ordinance, Article III , Section 100-31 and Bulk Parking Schedule
for permission to divide property with insufficient area and width.
Location of property: Linnet Street, Greenport, New York, bounded on
the north by Linnet Street; east by F. Field; south by H. Wyche, PK
Realty, Riverside Homes; west by J. Crenshaw.
8 :40 P.M. (E.S .T. ) Upon application of Lim-Con Enterprises, 1455
Vets, Highway, Hauppauge, New York, for a special exception in accordance
with the Zoning Ordinance, Article VI , Section 100-60 C (2) (a) for
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permission to have sign which exceeds the area and height require-
ments for ground signs. Location of property: northeast corner of
Factory Avenue .and Main Road, Mattituck, New York, bounded on the
north by Bethany Cemetery Association; east by Bethany Cemetery
Association; south by Main Road (State Road 25) ; west by Factory
Avenue and Ardprop, Inc.
8 :50 P.M. (E.S .T.). Upon application of Anthony and Louise Zotto,
50-42 185th Street, Flushing, New York (Peter Stoutenburgh, as Agent) ,
for a variance in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance, Article III ,
Section 100-31 and Bulk Parking- Schedule for permission to construct
an addition to existing house with insufficient front yard setback.
Location of property: Bittersweet Lane, Cutchgue , New York, known
as Lot No. 33 , ,Filed Map 1179 , Nassau Farms , Cutchogue, New York.
9 :15 P.M. (E.S .T. ) Upon application of Royal R. Reynolds, 27
Schaefer Street, Huntington, New York, for a variance - in- accordance
with the Zoning Ordinance, Article III , Section 100-31 and Bulk Parking
Schedule for permission to construct a house with insufficient front
yard setback. Location of property: Vanston Road, Cutchogue, New
York, bounded on the north by Quigley; east by Hart and Gina; south
by Braatz ; west by Vanston Road.
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Messrs: Gillispie, Grigonis, Doyen,
Tuthill and Douglass.
The meeting was adjourned at 11 :00 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Babette C. Conroy
Secretary
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