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HomeMy WebLinkAboutTB-12/28/1984 65 SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD DECEMBER 28, :1984 WORK SESSION Present: Supervisor Francis J. Murphy, Councilman Joseph L. Townsend, Jr., Councilman Paul Stoutenburgh, Councilman James A. Schondebare, Councilwoman Jean W. Cochran, Town Clerk Judith T. Terry, Town Attorney Robert W. Tasker. 9:00 A.M. - The Board audited outstanding. vouchers. 10:00 A.M. - Francis 'J. Yakaboski, 'Special Attorney, met with the.Board to. '.discuss his '1984 billing for legal services, the per hour rate for which was set by a :1981 agreement, and his proposal for amending said' agreement •1985. This matter will be discussed further by the Board at the January. 3, .1985 Organizational. Meeting. EXECUTIVE SESSION 10: 15 A.M. - The Board discussed with Mr. Yakaboski' pending litigation: Wade vs. Town of Southold,' Silverman/Cartnick vs. Town of Southold, Cron vs. Planning Board and Hodor-Staller vs. Town of Southold. .10:47 A.M. - The Work Session reconvened and the Board met with Town Trustees Frank A. Kujawski; Jr., John L. Bednoski; 'Jr. and President Henry P. Smith to discuss the need for a second Bay Constable, the subject of Resolution No. 13. 11:20 A.M. - The Board discussed off-agenda items: junk yards, Waterfront Re- vitalization Grant application, as well as agenda resolutions. 12: 10 P.M. - Work Session adjourned. REGULAR MEETING i A Regular Meeting of the Southold Town Board was held on Friday, December 28, •1984, at the Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York. Supervisor Murphy opened the meeting at 12: 15 P.M. with the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag. Present: Supervisor Francis 'J. Murphy Councilman Joseph L. Townsend, Jr. Councilman Paul Stoutenburgh Councilman James A. Schondebare -- Councilwoman Jean W. Cochran Town Clerk Judith T. Terry Town Attorney Robert W. Tasker Absent: Justice Raymond W. Edwards SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Thank you for being so patient. We're delayed today. We had an attorney, come in and discuss some items that 'we really hadn't planned upon and this was on his time, too. I'd .like a motion to approve the December 28th audit of the bills. 66 DECEMBER 28, 1984 Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by Councilman Stoutenburgh, it was RESOLVED that the following audited bills be and hereby are ordered paid: General Fund Whole Town bills in the amount of $50,,899.82; General Fund Part Town bills in the amount of $18,448.62; Highway Department bills in' the amount of $8, 865.23; Fishers Island Ferry District bills in the amount of $35,959.05; Federal Revenue Sharing bills in the amount of $2,520'.00; and Southold Wastewater Treatment Plant bills in'the amount of $578.00. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare, Counci man Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared. duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY : 1 look for a motion to approve the minutes of the Regular Town Board Meeting of December 18th. Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by Councilman Stoutenburgh, it was RESOLVED that the minutes of the Regular Town Board Meeting of December 18,' '1984 be and hereby are approved. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Next, a resolution to set the next meeting dates. The first one is 'January 3rd, '1985 an Organizational Meeting at 3:00 P.M. , Southold Town Hall and the second is January 8tK, :1985* a Regular Meeting at 7:30 P.M. 1 offer that. Moved by Supervisor Murphy, seconded by Councilman Stoutenburgh, it was RESOLVED that the next two meetings of the Southold Town Board shall be as follows: 3:00 P.M., Thursday, January 3, .1985, Organizational Meeting, Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York,. AND 7:30 P.M. , Tuesday, January 8,- .1985, Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy. This 'resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. 1: :REPORTS. ..,. , '� . , .. _. . • . :~�.; ,.. .. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: There are no Reports unless any of the Councilmen would like to say something at this time. Jay? COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: No, nothing. I hope everyone had a Merry Christmas, that's.all. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Joe? (No, thanks.) Jean? (Nothing,, thank you.) Paul? COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH : Nothing, except that the Dredging Committee has .,.met and that we are formulating a priority list right now and we'll have that for the Board's .approval. 11. PUBLIC NOTICES. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Okay, the second item on the agenda is public 'notices. 1. New York State Department of Environmental Conservation, Notice of Complete Application by Ralph Stocker to construct timber bulk and return, off shore of mean high water, place floats, ramps and walkway parallel to bulkhead, and dredge, Dawn Canal, Greenport. Written. comments to the DEC by January 4, •1985. 2. New York State DEC, Notice of Complete Application by Robert G. Norkus to subdivide a 4.38 acre parcel into 4 lots, Cedar Beach Harbor, Southold. Written comments by January 11th, :1985'. Ill. COMMUNICATIONS. & PUBLIC HEARINGS. SUPERVISOR MURPHY; There are no Communications or Public Hearings today. We!II .move right on to Resolutions. Y=' V. RESOLUTIONS. SUPERVISOR MURPHY : The first one, Jean, would you like to do it.' 1. Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by Supervisor Murphy, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints the following individuals to the Southold Town Housing Advisory Committee, effective immediately; no compensation for this position: Four (4) .Members for a Term of Three (3) Years_ (expires 12/28/87) : Bessie E. Swann Loisanne R. 'Callis ' Anthony Leone James C. McMahon DECEMBER 28, 1984 67 Four (4) Members for a Term of Two (2) Years (expires 12/28/86) : Edith Crosley David J. S. Emilita Walter Krupski James E. Litchhult Four (4) Members for a Term of One (1) Year. (expires 12/28/85) : Douglas V. Clark James R. Bryer Herbert R. Mandel George W. Wetmore SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any other questions on it? COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: I'd like, to amend that resolution, only to put Jim McMahon and Dave Emilita on a one year basis;, primarily because the reason they're on there is because it has to do with their 'employment with the Town and that's subject to change on a year by year basis; so I think if you put them on. for one year--- SUPERVISOR MURPHY: It has nothing to do with their employment. ' They volunteered. This 'is not part of their 'job. They're not being paid' for this: COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: 1 understand, but Dave Emilita doesn't even live here and if he doesn't work here next year, or if he doesn't .work here two years from now--- SUPERVISOR MURPHY: That's .his problem, then he'd have to resign from the Committee. COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: That's true. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: If he doesn't make the meetings. Hopefully we'll .have our housing problems solved in one year. COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: Yes, 1 had him originally for a one year term.,, those two, because of their positions with the Town, but they can resign from the Committee if they do leave the area. Six'of one and half a dozen of the other, Joe. COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Okay. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any other questions? COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Yes, we agreed, and when this 'came on once before, that we weren't going to vote on it until we received a job description. We still don't have the job description and yet we're going to vote on it 'and I'm going to make it 'my policy not to vote on this; or any other committees, .and appoint anyone to it if we don't have a job description of what it *is we're appointing these people to do. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Jay, they did receive that when they applied. COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: What we want is rules and regulations for this Committee. We don't have any rules and regulations or guidelines for this ' Committee. We set up nothing, yet we're appointing people to it. TOWN CLERK TERRY: When you established the Committee you did have guidelines. COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: . No, . we don't. TOWN CLERK TERRY: In the resolution. COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: We don't have them. We don't. have anything. COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN : Well, -actually, Jay, the purpose of this Committee we all know and that's the goal of the Committee is to solve some of the housing problems. The nitty gritty as far-as objectives of the goals will 'be developed and that's being developed by Jim McMahon. Either way, you had twelve applicants and you're filling twelve spots and I think they could go with. this "and your main goal is to solve the problem of affordable housing, sb you do have a goal. It's the workings of the Committee, and many. committees have the right to determine some of their own workings, and guidelines are being developed with more: specifics, but---either way you're going to. come up with the same twelve people. COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: My question and my position is not with regards to these twelve people. My position is that before.we start appointing. to people to the Committee we ought to have the specifications of what the Committee is going to- do and what we want, and that should be approved by this Board. 68 DECEMBER 28, 1984 COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: Can I. call for the vote? SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any other questions on it? (No response.) I.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy. Abstain: Councilman Schondebare. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 2 to place a notice in the papers. 2. Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh, seconded' by Supervisor Murphy, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs the Town Clerk to place a public notice in The Long Island Traveler and The Suffolk Times notifying the public 'that the Town Board will. consider proposed amendments to the Community Development Year X Program Budget at their Regular Meeting to be held at 3:00 P.M. , Tuesday, January 22, 1985. as follows, and invites interested citizens to attend this meeting and to comment on the proposed amendments: Current New Project Budget Increase Decrease Budget Cutchogue Free Library FX X $10,000-.00 ;0- $.10,000..00 -0 N.F. Head Start FY X $ 5,000.-00 $ 5,000..00 -0- Housing Rehabilitation FY X $32,1500.00 $15,000...00 -0- $47,500.00 2.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare, Councilman touten urg , Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy:* This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 3 is 'to amend a Resolution of December 18th. 3. Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Councilman Schondebare, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby amends their ' Resolution' No. 16 adopted on December 18, *1984, setting 8:00 'P.M. , Tuesday, January 8, .-1985', Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York as time and place for a rehearing of the petition of Harold Reese and Frederick Reese for relief from the Bulk requirements of the Zoning Code. as provided in Local Law No. 11 - •1983 to read: 3:35 P.M., Tuesday, January 22, :1985-. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions? (No response.) 3.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy. This 'resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 4, Ray, you're out in'the audience here, we are going to hold, at the advice of Counsel, to discuss further. . I'll put it 'on the agenda for the January 8th meeting. MR. REYNOLD F. BLUM: I had a .very. brief statement, since the Town Board was not complete the last time we met, which 1, could make -now--- SUPERVISOR MURPHY: There's one member missing. MR. BLUM: I'll .make it next time then. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Yes. I would appreciate the statement then, or if you'd like, send it in' writing and I'll .pass it 'out. (Resolution No. 4 was a decision on the petition of Reynold F. Blum for a change of zone from "A" to "B-1" at Cutchogue.) SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 5 is a Local Law. 5. COUNCILMAN -SCHONDEBARE: Where, a.proposed Local Law No. 10 .1984 was introduced at a meeting of this 'Board held on the 4th day of December, •1984, and WHEREAS, a public hearing was held there on by the Board on the 18th day of December, -19840 at which time all interested persons were given an opportunity to be heard thereon, now, therefore, be it RESOLVED that Local Law No. 10 :1984: be enacted as follows: LOCAL LAW NO. .10 - :1984 "A Local Law in relation to Residence Parkin Permit Fees" BE .IT :ENACTED by the Town Board of the Town of Southold as follows: (Additions indicated .by underline; deletions by [brackets] .) DECEMBER 28, 19'84 69 I. Subdivision A(2) (Residence parking_ permits) of Section 65-3 of Chapter 65 (Parking at Beaches) is 'hereby amended to read as follows: (2) The Town Clerk or a person designated by [him] the Town Clerk shall inspect such application to determine that the applicant is a qualified resident of the town. Upon approval of the application, a resident parking permit shall be issued and inscribed with the vehicle license registration number. Such permit shall not .be trans- ferred to any other vehicle. [Upon payment of the permit 'fee, a resident shall be entitled to a permit for each vehicle owned by him' if'such vehicle is registered to an address withih the Town of Southold.] II. ' This Local Law shall take-effect upon its filing with the Secretary of State. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Second. COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: I didn't so move it.� SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Do you want to read it then? COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Oh, I know what it says, I just didn't move it. COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: He voted against this ' COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: I know exactly what it 'says. TOWN CLERK TERRY: Is somebody making the motion? COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: No, I just. read it.' SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Would someone like to make the motion? COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: . I'll make the motion. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: I'll second it.' 5.-Resolution No:. 5, as previously read by Councilman Schondebare, was moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh and seconded by Supervisor Murphy. S.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy. No: Councilman Schondebare. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 6 is to enact another Local Law. 6. Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by Councilman Townsend, WHEREAS, a proposed Local Law No. 1.1 - .1984 was introduced at a meeting of this Board held on the 4th day of December, .1984, and WHEREAS, a public hearing was held thereon by the Board on the 18th day of December, .1984, at which time all interested persons were given an opportunity to be heard thereon, now, therefore, be it RESOLVED that Local Law No. 11 - 1984 be enacted as follows`: LOCAL LAW NO. 11 - .1984 " A Local Law to amend the Southold : Town Code in relation to parking of vehicles" BE .IT ENACTED by the Town Board of.the Town of Southold as follows: , ad itions indicated by underline; deletions by [brackets] .) Chapter 92 (Vehicle and Traffic) of the Code of the Town of Southold is hereby amended as follows: I. Article IV thereof is 'amended by adding a new section thereto, to be Section 42. 1, to read as follows: ` Section 42. 1. Parking prohibited during certain' months . The parking of vehicles is hereby prohibited during the months indicated (both inclusive) in any of the following locations: During Months of Name of Street Side (Both Inclusive) Location,'i Beckwith Avenue West December to and In Southold including March between N.Y. Route 25 and Traveler Street II. By amending Section 92-42 thereof by adding thereto the following: Between the Name of Street Side Hours of Location Marratooka Road Both . :10:00. P.M. and In Mattituck from southerly 7:00. A.M. terminus thereof northerly . _ . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . to. Park Avenue III. This Local Law shall take effect" upon its filing with the Secretary of State. 6.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, 'Councilman Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy. This 'resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. 70 DECEMBER 28, 1984 SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 7 is 'to accept a bid for gasoline for .1985. 7. Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran, it 'was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold 'hereby accepts the bid of Goldsmith & Tuthill, Inc. for supplying the Tow_ n of Southold with Gasoline for the calendar year .1985 as follows: No-Lead Gas oline-----------------.$.8485 delivered price Regular Gasoline------------------$.8085 delivered price 7.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy. This 'resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 8 is 'to accept another bid' for heating oil. 8. Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Councilman Schondebare, it 'was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the bid' of Goldsmith E Tuthill; Inc. for supplying the Town of Southold with No. 2 Heat- ing Fuel Oil for the. calendar year 1985 as follows: $.85'45 delivered price. 8.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy. This 'resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number. 9 is 'to accepf'a bid' for diesel fuel. 9. Moved by Councilman Schondebare, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran, it 'was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the bid of Goldsmith & 'Tuthill, Inc. for supplying the Town of Southold with Diesel Fuel for the calendar year 1985: as follows: Regular Diesel--------------------$,:8915 delivered price Premium Diesel-----=------------- $:.9035 delivered price 9.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 10 is 'a transfer of funds in Fishers Island Ferry District. 10. Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by Councilman Stoutenburgh; it 'was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the following transfer within'the Fishers Island Ferry District :1984 Budget: From: Repairs Docks and Buildings-- -----------------$10,000.00 Into: Re airs 'Ferr - --------------------------- 10 '000.00 10.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend,' Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 11 is 'to grant a 7% salary increment to Fishers Island Ferry personnel. 11. Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Councilman Schondebare, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby concurs with the Board of Commissioners of the Fishers Island Ferry District' in granting a seven percent (7%) salary increment to the following Fishers Island Ferry District personnel: Appointed - Salary Position 1. Robert P. Knauff Manager-Secretary Part-time - Hourly Position 1. Thomas F. Alligood Purser 2. John J. Piacenza' Purser 3. Donald F. Stankiewicz Purser 4. Michael Londregan Deckhand 5. Donald Hayes Deckhand 6. Wilfred Szalkowski Deckhand 7. Newton Augiar Deckhand 8. Stephen Brennan Deckhand . - 9. Kenneth L. Edwards, Jr. .Deckhand :10. Robert Jordan Deckhand 11. Christopher Londregan Deckhand 12. Carl Rood Deckhand 13. Peter Strife Deckhand 14. William Toivonen Deckhand .15. David White Deckhand .16. Elizabeth Wilcox Freight Agent 17. Walter Barnard Captain' (Operator) 18.: Brian Kingsbury Captain' (Operator) ;19. Richard Martel Captain (Operator) •20. Evelyn Clarke Clerk . 11.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. DECEMBER 28, 1984 71 SUPERVISOR MURPHY : Number 12 is 'to' authorize the encumberances for the Fishers Island Ferry District in their '.1984 Budget. 12. Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh, seconded by Councilman Townsend, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the following encumberances within the Fishers Island Ferry District :1984 Budget: Operation Ferry $4, 990. 00 Purchae of a 1979 Ford diesel tractor to replace Circa .1950 Ford 8N gasoline tractor at Fishers Island Terminal. Lewis S. Bull d/b-/a L. S. Bull Farm and Forest Products, 200 'Upper Pattagansett Road, East Lyme, CT. 06333 Airport - $1:,970.00 Replacement of seven windows in hangar building which are deteriorated and not repairable. A. John Gada General Contracting, Inc. Drawer B, Fishers Island, NY 06390. 12.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 13 is :a ,provisional appointment as a Bay Constable. 13. Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by Supervisor Murphy, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints Michael Fingerle, provisionally pending a .Civil Service test, to the position of Bay Constable for the Town of Southold, effective January 1, 1985, at an annual salary of $13,000.00. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions? COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: I'd like to table the motion to discuss how we could accomplish some of the goals that I discussed in the Work Session. I think that--- although I have nothing against Mr. Fingerle, I'm sure he's doing an excellent job, and has done an excellent job, by all reports at any rate, but I feel that we can reorganize at this 'point and might set a trend towards increasing the efficiency in Town government by doing it. That's all I'd like to say. So I request that 'we table the motion. TOWN CLERK TERRY: Are you making a motion? CO.UNC'1 LMAN. TOWNSEND.:.:'::Yes.. _ �.•...: : �:.:. : .• : . :, •- SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Would someone like to second Joe's motion to table? COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Let me ask a question. The last time this came on l voted against it. I assume that the three of you down at the other end of the table on the dais will vote for it, Joe' s against it. I don't agree with Joe on the Police Department enforcing this ordinance. I don't see that working and don't see that as a viable alternative to hiring someone. I was persuaded, by the Trustees and their, comments today and .likewise by yourself, Mr. Townsend. How long do you .want to table this 'thing, if 'we went along with tabling it? COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Until the Police Committee has a chance to meet. Until we discuss specific goals, what exactly the Police would do and how it would work within!their existing grounds. Possible creation of a Marine--like they have a Youth Officer, perhaps we could create a couple of officers to have that duty that would be something that they would take into consideration ,when the were assigned their 'tours of duty. You .know, we could :discuss the possibilities of the various ways we could accomplish---, . COUNCILMAN. SCHONDEBARE: Do you want to have a meeting of the Police Committee which is basically yourself, myself and the Supervisor. COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: And, of course, the Chief and perhaps the Lieutenant. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: All right, is there a second? COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: I'll second the motion to table it. MOTION TO TABLE RESOLUTION NO. 13: Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Councilman Schondebare it was RESOLVED that Resolution No. 13 be tabled. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Schondebare, Councilman Townsend. Noes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared LOST. 72 DECEMBER 28, 1984 SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Now, are there any other questions on the original resolution? COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: I'm not ready to vote on that. I haven't made up my mind on it. I'll abstain'. VOTE ON RESOLUTION NO. 13: 13.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Supervisor Murphy. Abstain: Councilman Schondebare. No: Councilman Townsend. This 'resolution was declared LOST. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 14 .is to appoint part-time Police Officers. 14. Moved by, Councilman: Schondebare, seconded by Councilman Townsend, it 'was - RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints the following part-time Police Officers, .effective January 15, :1985, at a -salary of $5.00 per hour, and authorizes them to attend the Police Officer Training School at the Suffolk County Police Academy, Westhampton, New .York, for a period of 285 hours, at no salary, they to provide their own transportation: Pamela Kehl, Eric Hubbard, and Thomas Gralton. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions on it? (No response.) 14.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy. No:. Councilman Stoutenburgh. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: . Number 15 to appoint part-time Police Officers for the year of 1985. 15. Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Supervisor Murphy, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints the following part-time .Police_ Officers, effective January 1, :1985", at a. salary of 5.00 per hour: . Joseph .Conway-,. J.r., Henry:- Santacroce, Jr., Edward Grathwohl. ':$6. 00."per hour:., .' Alan. Czelatka. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any-questionns? COUNCILMAN' STOUTENBURGH : They were all hired last.year? SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Yes. They all have attended the Academy. and all worked this past year, 1984. Any other questions? (No response.) 15.-Vote of the Town Board: Abstain: Councilwoman Cochran. Ayes: Councilman Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy. This 'resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. - SUPERVISOR.MURPHY: Number 16 is td set a public 'hearing. 16. Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by Supervisor Murphy, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby sets. 3:30. P.M., Tuesday, January 22, :1985, Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York as time and place for a public hearing for the purpose of determining the need and location of a public project, to consist of the acquisition of 2.796 acres of real property located on the northerly side of Lower Road, at Southold, Suffolk County, New York, and the construction thereon of a Recharge Basin, to alleviate highway flooding conditions. The public project will be located on real property described as follows: All that certain'plot, piece or parcel of land situate, lying and being at Southold, in' the Town of Southold, County of Suffolk and State of New York, bounded and described as follows: BEGINNING at a monument set on the northerly line of Lower Road at the southwesterly corner of land now or formerly of Edwin A. Smith and Johanna A. Smith, being the southeasterly corner of the premises herein described; running thence along said' northerly line of Lower Road, South 53 degrees 15 minutes 50 seconds West 404.05 feet; running thence along other land of Edward A. Prechtl and Eleanor M. Prechtl,- North 44 degrees 22 minutes 40 seconds West 608.24 feet to a monument and the northwesterly. corner of said land of Smith; running thence along said land of Smith, South 75 degrees 33 minutes 00 seconds East 773. 68 feet to the point or place of BEGINNING. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions on it? (No response.) This is 'the Prechtl property, it's a two and a half acre piece that the Town is going to take through condemnation for a very severe .drainage problem on Lower Road and the park there and also one that's causing a tremendous amount of pollution to Jockey Creek. 16.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy. ._ This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. DECEMBER 28, 1984 73 SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 17 is 'a transfer of funds in the Highway Department. 17. Moved by Councilman Schondebare, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the following transfer within the Highway Department .1984 Budget: From; DA-9040.8 - Workmen's Compensation ---------$2,000.00 Into: DA5130.4 - Contractual----------------------$2,000.00 17.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 18 is to accept the insurance proposal for the year 1985.. 18. Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Councilman Stoutenburgh, it 'was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of.. Southold hereby accepts the proposal of Val Stype E Sons, Inc. for the Town's •1985 Insurance Program at a total cost of $164,923.00. 18.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy. This 'resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. y SUPERVISOR 'MURPHY : Number .19 is 'to accept a bid: 19. Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Councilman Stoutenburgh, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the bid of B. P. Wreckers, Ltd. for the collection, storage, removal and purchase of all Scrap Paper deposited at the Southold Town Landfill Site during the period from January 1,. .1985 through December 31, 1985', at the following price: $1,655.87. 19.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number. 20 is to accept a bid' for scrap metal. 20.• Moved by Councilman Schondebare, .seconded by Councilwoman Cochran, it 'was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of .Southold hereby accepts the bid of North Fork Sanitation Service for the collection, storage, removal and purchase of all Scrap Metal deposited at the Southold Town Landfill 'Site during the period from January 1, .1985 through December 31, :1985 at the following price: $4, 160. 00. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions? (No response.) 20.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 21 is to accept a proposal on a water treatment district. 21. Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by Councilman Stoutenburgh, it was RESOLVED that ,the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the proposal of ERM-Northeast to assist the Towns of Southold and Riverhead in' establishing home water treatment districts, at a total• cost of $19,000.00 if Southold and Riverhead participate, or a total. cost of $12;600."00 for the Town of Southold if Riverhead does not participate, and be it, 'further RESOLVED that Supervisor Francis 'J. Murphy be and he hereby is authorized and directed to execute an agreement between the Town of Southold and ERM-Northeast to assist in'establishing home water treatment districts. COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Wait a minute, question on it: Where's the agree- ment? SUPERVISOR MURPHY: You had a proposal. COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: I'm looking at a letter. TOWN CLERK ,TERRY.:. It was copied on November 21st. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: We've been holding it 'while we've been waiting to hear from Riverhead. COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: And Riverhead we haven't heard from? SUPERVISOR MURPHY: And we want to encumber the money this 'year. COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: I know, 'and if we don't encumber the money we'll go into our excess fund. 74 DECEMBER 28, 1984 SUPERVISOR MURPHY: You can't use it. COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Can't take it 'out of there? SUPERVISOR MURPHY: No, not until you're into surplus. COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Okay, so if you don't encumber the funds now you're going to lose the funds and you've got $5,000 in next years. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Right, and it's :not enough. We have to have a bill or a proposal. COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: We can take money out of some unallocated part next year and put it in if we wanted to, to go along with this budget. Obviously we can, we've been moving money around back and forth all day long. COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Could we just say that we would vote to--leave out the section or at a total. cost of $12,600 for the Town of Southold if Riverhead does not participate. Can we encumber the funds on .that basis; if we leave out that--that's your question, right? COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Yes. COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND : Leave out that sentence and still encumber the funds? SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Leave out what sentence? COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: $12,600.00. COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: ---for the Town of Southold if Riverhead does not participate. We -accept thisproposal with a. contingency. Can you accept a proposal--can you still encumber on that basis, Bob? TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: Well, the letter of contract that you have has it both ways. It says $12,.600 if 'you participate alone. If Riverhead participates the amount is '$19,000.'. It's already in the agreement. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Why do you want to eliminate this--- COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Well, I might not go along with it if 'we do it by ourselves, that's what I'm saying. I . might not be willing to spend $12,600.* SUPERVISOR MURPHY: We haven't signed the agreement. COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: I know. I hope not. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: We're authorizing us to. ,COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: . That's .exactly what we're doing. If we go it alone we'll pay $12, 600.. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Now, we have the money budgeted. We have $8,500 'and $5,'000 budgeted next year for this: . COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Are we willing to go this alone, that's the question. would vote for that, but if it's .going to be a problem I would go along with pulling that out until--if -it's going to be a problem in getting Jay's vote or some- body elses vote. I would pull .it out. So we've got to decide would we be willing to do this by ourselves if 'Riverhead doesn't go along. Are you willing to do that? COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: No. COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND : Are you willing to do that? COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN : Yes. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: 1 am. COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Are- you, Paul? COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: Yes. COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: I guess I would too, so--- COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Anyone who tells me he doesn't know what the final--this is going to. cost us, if'we go it 'alone, $12,•600,' right? When we had that meeting I asked the fellow from ERM, when he gets done with the final product, how much is 'it going to cost the Town? He has no idea. Give me a ball park. Are we talking a project of $10,•000 or over $100,000, and this fellow still 'couldn't even give me that information. DECEMBER 28, 1984 75 SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Certainly, Jay, he couldn't. First of all, Jay, we haven't decided, through looking at the specifics, exactly how you want to go. Do you want to make this a mandatory type of thing? Do you want to do it on education alone? There's very many aspects of it that has to be and you need a professional to analyze it: COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: And he has no idea where he's headed. He has no idea where he's going. SUPERVISOR MURPHY : Sure we do. COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: He can't. He couldn't .give me a price tag or $10,000 or $1100,.000. That tells me a fellow who has no idea. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: We've been working with the County for two years on this. COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: I know what you've been doing on it and I've been following ,italong and that's .why I expected him' to come up with something that he could give me, but he couldn't give me anything. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Absolutely not. COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: I don't buy it.' I think this qualifies for Senator Proxmires Golden Fleece Award. I don't buy it: I don't see it.' SUPERVISOR MURPHY : Okay, do we have it 'seconded? (Yes.) Any other questions? Joe? (No.) Anyone else? (No response.) 21.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy. Abstain: Councilman Schondebare. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 22 istransfer of funds, General Fund Whole Town 1984 Budget. 22. Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of. the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the following transfers within the General Fund Whole Town .1984 Budget: From: A1440.4 Engineer, Contractual------------$ 400.00 A31-20.4 School Crossing Guards, Contract.--400.00 A3510.2 Control of Dogs, Equipment--,------500.'00 A3660. 1 School Attendance, Pers. Serv.------200.00 A5650.4 Off Street Parking, Contractual ---4,500.00 A6410.4 Publicity, Contractual-------------1,500.00 A6773.4 Programs for the Aging(Home Aide)3,000.00 A7110.2 Parks, Equipment-----------------1,000.00 A7520.4 Historical Properties, Contractual----200.00 A-5.99 Unexpended Balance---------------8,400. 00 . A9010.8 NYS Employee Retirement—--------1, 100.00 Total-------------$21,200.00 Into: A1010.4 Town Board, Contractual Exp.---$ 250.00 A 1110.4 Justices, Contractual Exp.-----------900.00 A 1220. 4 Supervisor, Contractual Exp.--------200.00 A 1355.4 Assessors, Contractual Exp.----------700.00 A1410.4 Town Clerk, Contractual Exp--------100.00 A1620.4 Buildings, Contractual Exp.------10,500.00 A5182.4 Street Lighting, Contractual Exp.-5,400.00 A7230.4 Beaches, Contractual Exp.---------1,200.00 A•8090.4 Environmental Control, Contr.Exp. 1•,950. 00 Total-------------$21;200.00 22.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare, .Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 23 is 'also a transfer of funds.in General Fund Whole Town. 23. Moved by Councilman Townsend, ,seconded by Councilman Schondebare, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the following transfers within the General Fund Whole Town 1984 Budget: From: A1.490. 1 Public Works., Personal Services-----$ 260.00 A80:90. 1 Environmental Control, Pers. Serv.------400.00 A8160. 1 Disposal Area, Personal Services ------6,000. 00 A8830.4 Shellfish, Contractual Expenses--------1,800.00 A8160.4 Disposal Area, Contractual Expenses---2,500. 00 A 9901.9 I nterfund Transfer---------------------2,500. 00 A599 Unexpended Balance------------------18,830.00 Total----------------$33;2 9 0.00 76 DECEMBER 28, 1984 Into: A1010.4 Councilmen, Contractual Expenses-----8,700.00 A1110.4 Justices, Contractual Expenses----------500.00 A 1355.4 Assessors, Contractual Expenses-----10, 350. 00 A1410. 4 Town Clerk, Contractual Expenses----1,900.00 A1620.4 Buildings, Contractual Expenses-------1,800.00 A5182.4 Street Lighting, Contractual Exp.------4,400.00 A7620.4 Adult Recreation, Contractual Exp.-------200.00 A8090.4 Environmental Control, Contr. Exp----2,750.00 A8540. 4 Drainage, . Contractual Expenses-------2,250. 00 A7230.4 Beaches, Contractual Expenses----------410.00 A1490. 4 Public Works, Contractual Expenses------30.00 Total----------------$33,290.00 SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions? (No response.) 23.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 24 is a transfer of funds in'General Fund Part Town. 24. Moved by Councilman Schondebare, seconded by Councilman Townsend, it was RESOLVED' that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the following transfers within the General Fund Part Town 1984 Budget: From: B4020.4 Registrar,. Contractual Expenses-----$ 1,500.00 B 9040.8 Workmen Compensation ----------------2,000.00 B9050.8 Unemployment, Insurance---------------1,000.00 B9058.8 GHI Dental----------------------------1,500'.00 B-599 Unexpended Balance--------------------4,700.00 Total----------------$10,700.00 Into: 133620.2 Building Inspector, Equipment------$ 500.00 B3620.4 Building Inspector, Contr. Expenses--2,650. 00 B80,10.4 Zoning, Contractual Expenses---------3,550.00 B8020.4 Planning, Contractual Expenses--------4,000.00 Total----------------$10,700.00 ;'SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions? (No response.) 24.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 25 is a transfer of funds for the Highway Department. . 25. Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by-Supervisor Murphy, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the following transfer within the Highway Department •1984 Budget: From: DA9030.8 - Social Security $1,000. 00 Into: DA5142. 1 - Snow Removal, Personal Services $1,000.00 SUPERVISOR MURPHY: That was because of yesterday's storm. 25.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy. This 'resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Okay, that's .the end of the prepared agenda. Is' there any Town Board member like to have any other comments? COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Just for the public: The issue you brought up on the police school and so forth, I think it's a good issue and has broad implications, because if you look at the ones you are appointing, they generally tend to be the children of active Policemen and that's not saying there's any active discrimination process going against anyone else, but that just says that they're the ones that are informed because they happen to be the children of Police Officers, so F think that it's a good point, Paul, and I think what we should do is develop a procedure. COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: I just think it 'doesn't look good to continually have this and I think it really hurts the person who you have applying, a son of somebody, because everyone is saying, "Oh, yeah, he knows somebody that he can get in," and it's not fair to him by golly. COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: So we'll bring it 'up as a matter for the Police Committee. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: A policy where you advertise for this, right. COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: From now on. DECEMBER 28, 1984 77 COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Frank, if I just may, I would request that we have a meeting of the Police Committee sometime next week, preferably 8:00 o'clock in the morning, if 'you. want to do that, at which time we'll discuss what Joe just brought up and likewise bring up about the Bay Constable, let me get the Chief s opinion, because I'd be receptive to another resolution later on if this doesn't pan out in the Police Committee. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Because we also have to discuss rules and regulations. COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: I have a. copy of that. I've gone over them. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Okay, no problem. COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH : And I would just like to--when you have that Police Committee thing, there is that concern of some people about a Review Board-- not Review Board--what would you call it? Police Grievance Board. If they would feel this 'is an objectionable thing or necessary or what have you. I'd like an official kind of feeling from the-- COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE.: When you say Police Grievance, is 'this the police grieving or the.civilians grieving about the police? SUPERVISOR MURPHY : Civilians. COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: Other towns have them and 1 think it's something, if 'even if it's .never used, you've at least gone--- .SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Paul, 1 think this 'will 'start to be addressed by the rules and regulations that we're looking to adopt. COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: Okay, it will be taken care of some place, but I want it taken care of. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Jean? - COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN : I'd just like to wish every one a healthyand prosperous New Year. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Is there anyone in the audience would like to make any comments? Ruth? . RUTH OLIVA, North Fork Environmental Council:' 1'd just like to put the NFEC's pitch in' for another Bay Constable. 1 don't see how you. can take the work load of the Wetlands Applications off your shoulders and dump it on to the Trustees without giving them some added help in'enforcement. And I don't see the Policemen that are joining the Police Force, then to be turned over to a Marine Unit: If they wanted to do that they would apply for the Bay Constable job and not just for a Police job. And number two, 1, can see in the wintertime, if Dzenkowski is off, people are still' clamming, you. could go .up to Hallocks every day and you see a few boats out. Who's. checking on their 'permits? Do they have them or don't they have them? We have laws, then we have to be willing to enforce them and have people there to do it.' So, I think it's extremely important that we have another Bay Constable. And second of all, I wish you a very healthy and prosperous New Year,too. Thank you. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Is there anyone else in the audience would. like to address the Town Board? MR. DAVID SPOHN : I'd like to wish you all a Happy New Year. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: If not, 1 would like to wish the same, a very happy and a prosperous and a healthy New Year for everybody, and look for a motion to adjourn. Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by Councilman.Schondebare, it was RESOLVED that this Town Board meeting be and hereby -is 'adjourned .at 12:50 P.M. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. A,u,4di 6h Southold Town Clerk J