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SOUTHOLD. TOWN BOARD
DECEMBER 18, •1984
WORK SESSION
Present: Supervisor Francis 'J. Murphy, Councilman Joseph L. Townsend, Jr.,
Councilman Paul Stoutenburgh, Councilman James A.I,Schondebare, Councilwoman
Jean W. Cochran, Town Clerk -Judith T.. Terry. 10:1*00 A.M. - Justice Raymond
W. Edwards,. Town Attorney Robert W.. Tasker.
9:00 A.M. - The Board began the .audit of outstanding vouchers.
9.45 A.M.- - Conservation Advisory Council members: Frank Cichanowicz, Jr.,
Chairman, Betty Wells, John Tuthill and Martin'Carrell met with the Board to
discuss a request to an increase in.-pay for. inspections and meetings (currently
$20.'00 total) . It was explained that the Council has. experienced a large increase
in.their workload due to a greater number of Wetland Applications, many of which
are. minor and could be handled by .the Trustees, although the Wetland Ordinance
does require an inspection and report by the CAC. The Board will take this
matter under, consideration and would like to meet with the CAC and Trustees to
review their responsibilities.
:10:'05. A.M. = Community Development Administrator James McMahon and Planning
Consultant David .Emilita- met with the Board to discuss the proposed N.Y.S. Local
Waterfront Revitalization Program final application, for a grant. of $30,000.00 in .
State funds with $30,000.'00' of Town Junds or inkind'services:: The Board discussed
the purpose of the proposed grant and probable projects.
' 10: 30 A.M. - Water Advisory Committee Chairman Frank Bear briefed the Board on
the meeting he attended on December 14th at: which. Aime Phase 1 of the Suffolk
County Department of Health's .Water Management Plan was presented.
16:35 A.M. - Town Trustee President Henry P. Smith _met with the Board -to
request their consideration of appointing a second full-time Bay Constable. A.
resolution will be placed on the December 28th agenda for a Board decision.
10: 40 A.M. - Mr. Fred Adler, North Fork Opponents of Nuclear Exposure, presented
the'= Board with a proposed letter he wished sent .to the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory
Commission protesting the barring of Suffolk County and State-of New York officials
from presenting oral 'arguments in'opposition to theirgranting a 5 o start-up license
for the Shoreham Nuclear. Plant. Various.points. in Mr. Adler's proposed letter were
discussed and it was the Board's decision that the Supervisor write a brief letter
of protest to the NRC.
10:45 A.M. - Off-agenda items were discussed: Per hour salary for special'
stenographer Hannah Hansen for the minutes of the East End Associates Annexation
hearing; SEQR decision for the Elizabeth J. Homan change of zone petition;: re-
scheduling a public'hearing on the Harold and Frederick Reese Relief petition;
recommendation of Richard Ward, Planning Board member, to serve: on .the -Suffolk
County'PI'anning :Commission;. 'request- of A. John Gada, highway employee on Fishers
Island, to be included in'the hospitalization plan (not;.qualified) ; request of the
Greenport Fire Department Rescue Squad for funds to repair 'their Recording
Resusci Annes. (would not be proper to contribute to a special district) municipal
take-over of electric 'power; purchase of the Blood Pressure machine (January - when
the lease expires); proposed Local Law relative to building set-back requirements
on lots adjacent to water bodies E wetlands (suggested amendments of the Planning
Board will' be incorporated and Town Attorney will redraw the proposed Local Law) ;
report by Councilman Townsend on the Landfill' site..
EXECUTIVE SESSION
11:45 A.M. - The Board reviewed the 1985-86 proposed PBA contract (see Resolution
No. 9 —Regular Meeting .agenda)..
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12:30 P.M. - Recess for lunch.
2:25 P.M. - Work Session reconvened and the Board met with Community Develop-
ment Administrator James McMahon for a briefing on the background of the Linnett
Street and Jarvis 'housing properties. Town Attorney Tasker and Mr. McMahon
continued this discussion alone to work out, certain' legal technicalities.
2:50 P.M. - Robert W. Jester, Greenport, a teacher in the Riverhead school system,
addressed the Board concerning his 'application for the NASA "Teacher in Space
Project," requesting the Board to prepare a resolution in support of his candidacy.
It was the unanimous decision of the Board to submit. such a resolution (No. 18) to
the President, Congressman, Senators, etc. in support of Mr. Jester's goal.
3:00 P.M. - Work Session recessed for the purpose of holding: the Regular Meeting.
Work Session to reconvene following the meeting so the audit of outstanding vouchers
may be completed.
REGULAR MEETING
3:00 P.M
A Regular Meeting of the Southold Town Board was held on Tuesday,
December 18, :1984: at the Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York..
Supervisor Murphy opened. the meeting at 3:00 P.M. with the Pledge of Allegiance
to the Flag.'
Present: Supervisor Francis 'J. Murphy
Councilman Joseph L. Townsend, Jr.
Justice Raymond W. Edwards
Councilman Paul .Stoutenburgh
Councilman James.'A. Schondebare
Councilwoman Jean W. Cochran .
Town Clerk Judith. T.. Terry
Town Attorney Robert W.. Tasker
SUPERVISOR MURPHY:. . The first order of business 1'd like a motion to approve
the minutes of the Regular. Town Board Meeting of December 4, :1984.
Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh, seconded by Councilman Schondebare, it 'was
RESOLVED that the minutes of the Regular. Town Board Meeting of December 4, :1984:
be and hereby are approved.
Vote of the Town Board:. Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh,` Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR, MURPHY:' I'd .like a resolution to set next meeting date, December
28th, :1984 at 11::bG A.M.
Moved by. Councilman Stoutenburgh, seconded by .Councilwoman Cochran, it was
RESOLVED that the next Regular Meeting of the Southold Town Board will be held
at 11:00 A.M., Friday, December 28,' '1984' at the Southold Town Hall, Main Road,
Southold, New York..
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice-Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
1.' REPORTS.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Moving on to the first item on the agenda, Reports, 1
Would like to state that these reports are all on file in' the Town Clerk's Office
for anyone who wishes to review them.
1. . Town Clerk's monthly report - November •1984.
2. . North. Fork Animal Welfare. League's monthly report - November .1984.
3. Receiver of Taxes - :1984.'Annual Report.
4. Town Justice monthly report - -Justice Tedeschi November .1984.
5. Automobile Club of New York,. Inc. - :1984 Pedestrian Protection Program
Report.
6. Police Department's monthly report - November .1984.
7. Szepatowski Associates, Inc., 'our Town Planner, monthly progress report -
November .1984'.
8. Town Justice Edwards - monthly report - November .1984.
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9. Councilmen's reports - I'll start on my right and ask Jay first.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: . The Code Committee met on December the 5th with
the wine and grape growers. They have just come down with a report of what
they forsee of the future as to the industry here on the North Fork. I would
suggest--it's good reading--and 1 would suggest you spend some time to get a copy
of it.' Frank, did that report finally get into the Town Hall? Do you have a copy
of that report?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: No, I never gbt it:
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: I'll .make. sure one gets to you. They came out
with this, it was a happy coincidence, they finished the .report at the same time
we were doing the meeting. . The Code Committee will have to go back and talk ,
about their 'proposals and have a further meeting with the association after the
first of .the year. We had a public hearing on annexation to Greenport, we were
all at that. . There was another Code Committee meeting, this 'time with the. horses
individuals owners thereof - not the horses per se, and interesting conversation
was had. Some problems with the Zoning Code and likewise we'll have to have
another meeting of the Code Committee after the first of the year at which time
thereafter we will have another meeting with the horse owners. . There was a
meeting also of Commerce and Industry and I might tell you that most of these
meetings--Commerce and Industry Jean Cochran was there and myself, and for
the Code Committee it's usually Jean Cochran, Joe _Townsend and myself, and
want to thank Victor Lessard, who shows up, and Bennie'Orlowski . shows up and
Jerry Goehringer shows up. and Bob Tasker. shows up.. The Commerce and Industry
Committee-one thing that came out of that committee meeting was a request by,
think'i.t :was Bill 'Lieblein; that a synopsisshould be published in' the papers as to
the history of the Master Plan, the present status of the Master Plan, and what is '
to be anticipated into the future with regards to the Master Plan, that is,' now we
planning on implementing it. Not a booklet form, just a short little synopsis 'so
the people in' the community have some.understanding of where the Town is going
to go once the Master Plan is presented to the Town Board. - I think this 'is a
pretty good idea and 1 would like the Board. members to think about it so when
we meet the next time there will,'be some ideas. -And what I'm talking about is '
just a short; 'little synopsis that we can. have published in' the papers so that
some of the wild ideas that the public 'has as to what's going to happen will' be
!put to rest. And that's it. Outside of that nothing else is going on.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Joseph?
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: I gave my report on the Landfill' Committee meeting
yesterday. and I think most of you were here for that. I don't know if the
press was, but basically there's .been a lot of activity. I won't repeat myself.
That's .all I have.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: . Thank you, Joseph. Paul?
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: I attended the meeting along with you, Frank,
at Yaphank on the County's proposal for the future water uses in'this County,
and Frank Bear report a summary of it at our Work Session and you saw the
huge volume that he .had and thank goodness we're going to get that weeded down
so that we'll each have the important parts of that to go over. This 'is Phase 1.
Phase II will be when the County actually comes and meets with the Town Boards.
Each of the Town Boards in'Suffolk Coulnty. And then the third' phase will be
implementation of this: So it's a long process, very involves, and I think it 'gives
us an indication of how, complicated this water problem in'the future is 'going to be
here on the North Fork and as. a matter .of fact in'Suffolk County. Complicated
in the sense that I think we should be thinking as we have been thinking about,
a little bit; the idea of having someone appointed in the Town who can sort of be
the person who handles all problems of water. It's going to come. We're going
to have to have somebody who's .going to be knowledgable. You can't expect every
Town Board member to go to every meeting and what have you and keep the volume
of material that's being poured out in' front of us. .1 also wanted to--along with
water--just for the public''s information, we have a vending machine at the Senior
Citiien building in'Peconic 'and I asked Doug Clark to give us this 'so that we can
get some idea of how this is 'being used and for the general public to know--my
daughter was pregnant, she gets her water at the building because her water--she's
not sure it's .right and she's pretty sure the one in the Senior Citiien building is
right because it's .tested every month and we have someone from the Health Department
who monitors it.' And to give you an idea--a bottle water vending machine has been
placed in'Peconic site since May 1983'. ' Since that date over 30,486 gallons of water
have been treated by the machine. To give you some idea of how 'important this
machine is and what people--the concern of people. In other words, the people are
using this: There are also figures by the month, but that's not important. I think-
the important thing is that the machine is 'being used, it brings to mind the importance
of water and I think that's about it,' Frank..
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SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Thank you, Paul. Jean?
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: Well, in addition to the meetings that Jay mentioned
l also attended the Water Advisory Committee meeting and they have begun their
work in'formulating a program for education to the community on water conservation.
So it's a plus that we are now headed in that direction. Also, last night I was a
part of the interview team for the Housing Committee and I was very impressed by .
those that had submitted theirresumes and I think that we can look forw.ard for a
very positive committee functioning ins the area of affordable housing. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Thank you, Jean. Judge .Edwards?
JUSTICE EDWARDS: I just want to say I was in on that meeting, the interviews,
last night also and 1 was. very impressed with the caliber of people who are willing
to volunteer their services for this committee and it's a very, very important
committee and I look forward .to getting them under way. The purpose of the
committee is 'to look into the availability of housing for middle income people here
in the Town of Southold and also for affordable housing for the senior citizens.
JODY ADAMS: What sort of standards ------
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Miss Adams, nothing has started. We don't even have
the guidelines on this committee. . This pis trying to address a need in the Town
and we are setting the guidelines, they will be available probably within'a week.
MISS ADAMS: You had an ad in the paper asking for people?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY : : Yes, it's been advertised, and we had the interviews
last night.
MISS ADAMS: =---When was it in'the legal, columns or on the front page?
SUPERVISOR. MURPHY: I have no idea of the location in'the paper.
TOWN CLERK TERRY: It was in'the legal columns, back in'November.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY : Judge Edwards, anything further?
JUSTICE EDWARDS: 'No, that's it.' . Thank you, Frank.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Okay, thank you. At this time we're giving out praise
to people who do. volunteer, I would` just like. to make a special mention of Dave
Spohn who was most gracious the other day, he flew one of our employees, Rodney
Douglass from the Landfill; to Connecticut and they drove up to Boston where he
did.a vidio tape of a machine that we're interested in our Landfill:and also Fishers
Island Landfill' would be very interested in'the same type of machine. I'd like. to
publicly thank you, Dave, for your contribution. One other very important one
and I'd .wanted to make it .'special and ask the papers to please pick this 'up, because
it's A notice that I was afraid'would- just go amiss if it wasn't .that we didn't make
a special' effort and it's on the Agent Orange claims, and all. claims for present
-. - adverse health effects that you believe are related to Agent Orange exposure must
be submitted by mailing this form, .and we have .copies in the Town Hall, to the
above address no later than January .2nd. . It's. very important and I would ask the
papers to write it pup that if *anybody !out there knows of anybody or just maybe
hopefully they'll pick up and read and we could help them. We'll have the forms
in'this 'office and even assist somebody in filling them out. if 'necessary. The other
is ] was. very-pleased with the caliber of people that did volunteer for the Housing
Committee. I look .forward to this.'committee as another very vital and very good
committee functioning in' the Town.
11. PUBLIC NOTICES.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Moving on to the second item on our agenda is Public
Notices. . There!s three of them.
1. N. Y. S. Department of Environmental Conservation Notice of Complete
Application by John Newman to place stone rip-rap in' front of existing broken
concrete and landward of intertidal marsh, Southold. Written comments by December
28, .1984.
2.- N.'.Y. S. Department .of EnMirorimental Conservation Notice of Complete
Application by Renate Riedel to construction -a one family dwelling, Mattituck.
Written comments also by December 28, •1984. .
3. N. Y. S. Department of Environmental Conservation Notice of Complete
Application by Margaret Best to subdivide 1.3 acres into 3 individual building lots
on Great Peconic Bay, Mattituck. Written comments by January 4, •1984."
These are on file in the Town Clerk's .Office and on our Bulletin Board.
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III. COMMUNICATIONS.
SUPERIVSOR MURPHY : Moving on to Item Number I I on' your agenda, Communications.
1. From Dr. DeFeo from the Boces, District Number One, over in Westhampton,
thanking the Town for their 'support in supporting their programs over there. We've
had a couple of young adults, graduates from their programs, who have been working
out very well for us.
2. From the Southold-Mattituck High Schools NJROTC Unit thanking the Town
for their assistance in their recent annual inspection.
3. . Thanking myself and Bennie Orlowski from the Fishers Island Civic
Associastion for flying over on Thanksgiving weekend to meet with them in one
of their 'annual meetings.
4. This is one that's: very pleasing and I hope all members of the Town Board
read it '-I'm sure they did=-it's a letter .of praise for a Town Hall employee. So
often you hear people complaining about employees and very seldom do you get one
where people do actually appreciate the work that's 'been done. This particular
gi rl has done a fantastic 'job here, it's Diane Schultze from the Planning Department.
5. On the HUGS Program, thanking the Town for its support. It's .another
area that the Town has been active in .with the school districts, on drug problems,
and it certainly seems to be paying off very well.
6. About a van that the Nutrition Center has.
IV. PUBLIC HEARINGS.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Item Number IV on .your agenda is 'hearings. . There's three
hearings tonight at 7:30 and 8:00 P.M.
V. RESOLUTIONS.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Moving on to .Item Number V, .Resolutions. I would like
someone to offer the first one on a Step I salary increment for a Town Clerk
personnel.
1. Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Councilman Schondebare, it 'was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the
Step 1. salary increment in the amount of $500..00 for Linda J. Cooper, Clerk-Typist
in the Office of the Town Clerk,. effective December 1, .1984.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions? (No response.)
1.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman .Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This 'resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 2 is 'to approve a bond estimate for a subdivision.
2. Moved by Councilman Schondebare, seconded by Justice. Edwards, it was _
RESOLVED that the Town ,Board of the Town of Southold hereby approves the bond
estimate in' the amount of $100,•000 'for the bluff plantings at '"The Breakers at
Island's End," Greenport, .New York, as recommended by the Southold Town Planning
Board and the Suffolk County Soil 'and Water Conservation District.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY : Any questions? (No response.)
2.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 3.is transfer of funds in' the Highway Department.
3. Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran, it 'was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the
following transfer of funds within the HiQhwaX Department 1984 Budget;
rom: DB9050.8 - CSEA Benefit Fund . . . . . .. . . .$500.00
Into: DB9060.8 - Hospitalization S Medical Insurance.. ...$500.00'
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions? (No response.)
3.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 4 is 'transfer of funds also in the Highway Department.
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4. Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the
following transfer of funds within:the Highway Department .1984 Budget:
From: DB2801 - Unexpended Balance .. . . . .. . . . . .. .. .. .. ..$39,000.00
Into: DB5150.2 - Improvement Program . . . . .. .. .. .. .. .. ..$:39,000.00 .
4.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 5 is. calling upon the Governor and the Legislature
to be a little more considerate of the Towns when they'grant exemptions.
5. Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Supervisor Murphy,
WHEREAS, the Constitution of the State .of New York provides that funding for
the operation of local government is provided by the levy of taxes upon the
assessed valuation of property, and
WHEREAS, pursuant to State Law, the Legislature of the State of New York grants
tax exemptions thereby reducing the assessed valuation available to shoulder the
costs of administering local government, which exemptions have the effects of shifting
the expenses of operating local government from exempt property owners to those
who do not enjoy these exemptions, and
WHEREAS, the practice of the State Legislature in granting local real property tax
exemptions results in'the potential for abuse by the State Legislature since the
costs of such exemptions are not borne by the State, now, therefore, be it '
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold. calls upon the Governor
of the State of New York, the Assembly and the Senate-to cease the practice of
granting real prperty tax exemptions unless such exemptions specifically provide
that the State reimburse municipalities for the loss of revenue occasioned by such
exemptions, and be it further
RESOLVED that the Town Clerk is 'hereby .authorized to forward certified copies
of this resolution.to Governor Cuomo, Lieutenant Governor Del Bello, State Majority
Leader.-Warren Anderson, Speaker of the Assembly Stanley Fink, Senator Kenneth
P. LaValle, Assemblyman Joseph Sawicki, Jr., Assemblyman John Behan, the
Association'.of..Towns, and adjoining townships Riverhead, Southampton, East
Hampton and Shelter Island.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions? (No response.)
5.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This 'resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number. 6 is 'transfer of funds in'General Fund Whole Town.
6. Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded .by Justice Edwards, it 'was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the
following transfers within the General Fund Whole Town •1984 Budget:
From: A1*1010..1 - Town Board, Personal Services. . . . . .. . . .$ 3,000.00
A1310.2 - Accounting E Finance, Equipment. .. ... . .. ...500.00
A1330.2 - Tax Receiver, Equipment.. . ..900.00
A 1410. 1 - Town Clerk,' Personal Services . . .. .. ..... . 1,600.00
A1440.4 - Engineer, Contractual Expenses . .. .. . . .. .. . .500.00
A1410.2 = Town Clerk,' Equipment .. . . . . . .. . . .. .. .500.00
A1490.2 - Supt. of Public Works, Equipment... .. . ... . 11000.00
A1:490.4 - Supt. of Public Works, Contractual Exp.. ... .200-.00
A1680.4 - Central Data Processing, Contractual Exp... .600.00
A3120.1 School Crossing Guards, Personal Services 21400.'00
A5650.1 - Off Street Parking, Personal Services .. .. . ..300.00
Total.. .... .. . . .. .. . .. ..... $11, 100. 00
Into: A1110. 1 - Justices, Personal Services.. . . .. ... . .. ..$ 2,900.00
'A1220. 1 Supervisor, Personal Service's.. .. ... .. .... 1, 100. 00
A 1330. 1 = Tax Receiver, Personal Services. . .... ... ..2, 300.00
A1355. 1 - Assessors, Personal Services. ... ... .. ... . . 1,600.00
A1620. 1 - Buildings, Personal Services . . . . . ... ... ...2,900.00
A5182. 1 - Street Lighting, Personal Services. . . . . . ... . . 300.00
Total . . .. .. . . . .. . . . .. . .....$11, 100. 00
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions? (No response.)
6.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 7 is 'a transfer of funds in the General Fund,
Part Town.
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7 Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran, it 'was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the
following transfer of funds within the General Fund Part Town .1984 Budget:
From: B 3120.2 - Police, Equipment . . . . .. . . . . . . . .. . ... . .. .$ 1, 100. 00
B3120.4 - Police, Contractual Expenses . . . . . . .. .. . . .26,400.00
B3130.2 - Bay Constable, Equipment. . . .. .. . . . :. .. .. ...500.00
B 3157.2 - Juvenile Aid' Bureau, Equipment. . .. .. . . . . . 1, 100.00
B3157.4 - Juvenile Aid' Bureau, Contractual Exp. . . . . . .500. 00
Total .. . . . .. . .. . . .. .. . ..... .$29, 600.00
Into: B 3120. 1 - Police, Personal Services. . . .. . .. .. .. .. .. $22,500.00
B3130. 1 - Bay Constable, Personal Services.. .. .. . . .. 1, 100. 00
B3157. 1 - Juvenile Aid� Bureau, Personal Services. .. .3,000.00
B3620. 1 - Building Inspector, Personal Service's.. . . . .3,000. 00
Total .. .. . . . . .. . ... .. . . .. .. $29,600. 00
JODY ADAMS: May I now answer a question or must the questions come from
the Board members?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: After, later, Miss Adams.
I._•ISS ADAMS: After--later--it's ,too late after later.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: What would you like to know?
MISS ADAMS: What are personal services?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Help, salaries for help. Any other questions?
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: Yes, I have a question, so that I can better understand
this. This is the General Fund and the JAB is *a grant, isn't it? Juvenile Aid
Bureau? I think I'm just looking for a clarification, I don't really know what my
question is: It's a grant and you're. taking $1, 600.'00 from----
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: This General Fund' budgeted money in that item, in that
line item, that was not expended. It's not the grant in itself.
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN : All right, it's our share?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Yes. And we had a surplus in that line item.
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: You've answered..my question, okay, thank you.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: The JAB program is part-town, it's not whole town.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: . It's not a grant program necessarily. It starts that
way, but we are responsible for funding it.
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN : We match funds with it,' right?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY; Yes, they take care of personal services.
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: All right, thank you.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any other. questions on it? (No response.)
7.-Vote of the Town Board: . Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 8 is '.a transfer of funds in''the Federal Revenue
Sharing -1984 Budget.
B.' Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh, seconded by Supervisor Murphy, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the
following transfer within the Federal Revenue Sharing •1984 Budget:
From: CF9002..4 - Waste Management... .. .. .. . ... .. .. .. .. . .$33,228.00
Into: CF9901.9 - Capital Accounts .. . . .. .. .. . .. .. ... . . . . .$33,228.00
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions?
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Why?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY : . This 'is. money, Jay, that we set aside for landfill'and
we're using it to pay part of the capital note off for the BAN on the improvements
in'the landfill.
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MISS ADAMS: Did I hear Police Management or was I hearing things?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: . Pardon me?
MISS ADAMS: Did� I hear Police Management $33,000?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: No..
MISS ADAMS What was that $33,0002
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: Capital Accounts.
TOWN CLERK. TERRY: Waste Management.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: Yes, Waste Management, maybe that was the other
one.
MISS ADAMS: Maybe it was. I didn't say it.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any other questions? (No response.)
8.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, _Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This 'resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number. 9 is 'to authorize' me-to execute an agreement
between the Town and the Southold Town PBA.
9. Moved by Councilman Schondebare, seconded by Justice Edwards, it 'was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and
directs Supervisor Francis J. Murphy to execute an agreement between the Town
of Southold and the Southold Town Police Benevolent Association, Inc. for the terms
and. conditions of employment. for the period of two (2) years, effective January 1,
1985 and terminating on December 31, •1986.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: . Any questions?
MISS ADAMS: I have several.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: . This 'is not the time for a discussion.
MISS ADAMS: May I make. a brief question and then---
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: I'll take one comment from you and then you could have
the floor after. Would you please stand and identify yourself, then, if you'd like
to ask a question, and use the microphone.
MISS' ADAMS: I'm interested in why the public 'does not have access to this
contract prior to your voting on it?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Because it is 'not signed. Any other questions?
MISS ADAMS: It's going to be a little late now.
9.=Vote of the Town Board: Abstain: Councilwoman Cochran. Ayes: Councilman
Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend,
-Supervisor Murphy.
This 'resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number .10 is 'to declare the Town Board lead agency.
•10. Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby declares itself
lead agency in regard to the State Environmental Quality Review Act in the matter
of the petition of East End Associates for the annexation of approximately 48.7 acres
of land in the unincorporated portion of the Town of Southold into the Incorporated
Village of Greenport corner of County Route 48 and Moores Land, Greenport, New
York.
10.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 11 is 'a transfer of funds within the General Fund
Whole Town Budget. I'd like to hold this one up. I ! believe Joan made a mistake
on one of the items here and I would just as soon we wait until the next meeting.
MISS ADAMS: May I ask why these are not--neither 10 nor 11--are on your listed
agenda?
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SUPERVISOR MURPHY; They were prepared after the agenda was made up.
MISS ADAMS: have them to pick up here, then, for the public?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY : Sure, they're always available.
MISS ADAMS: Where .are they?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: . They're not printed right now. Okay, any objection to
holding this? . (No objection by the Board.) Number 12 is 'a transfer of funds
from General Fund Part Town.
12. Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by.Justice Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the,Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the
following transfers within' the General Fund Part Town •1984 Budget:
From: B 3120.4 - Police, Contractual Expenses .. . . .. . .. .. .$3,000.00
B4010.4 Registrar, Contractual Expenses . . . . . . . .. 1,500.00
B 9040.8 - Workmen Compensation . . . . .. .. . . . . . .. . . .4,700.00
Total . . . . . . .. . . .. .. .. . .. . . .$9,200.00
Into: . B 3620.4 - Building Inspector, Contractual Exp.. .. .$5,400.00
1318020.4 - Planning Board, Contractual Expenses. . .$3,800.00
Total .. .. . . . . .. .. . . .. .. . . ...$9,200.00
12.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This 'resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 13 is 'to authorize me to sign a lease agreement
for a storage building at the Landfill.
13. Moved by Councilman Schondebare, seconded by Councilman Stoutenburgh, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and
directs Supervisor Francis 'J. Murphy to execute a lease agreement between the
Town of Southold and the County of Suffolk for space known as machinery storage
buildinq located at the southwesterly corner of the Southold Town Landfill Site,
north of County Route 48,. Cutchogue, New York, together with access thereto
from •County Route 48 over existing roadways, for a term to commence upon
completion of renovations and alterations as provided in the lease, and end two
years later, or as otherwise provided in the lease, for the rental rate of
$18,'009.:00,' as well as payment of all utilities by the County. The County of
Suffolk's occupancy of aforesaid' building shall be for an EPA Water Treatment
Project to be conducted by the Suffolk County Health Department, and other
uses as 'set forth in the agreement.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: This is for the Board of Health to do a test program on
water filters, mainly, and they're using a building of ours, we're going to fix it
up. We'will receive the .property that's put into the building at the end of the
lease. I think we're very fortunate to have this being done. They tried to pick
the";area with the worst water in the Town and it 'had to be next to the Landfill;
and if 'the machinery works there hopefully it 'will work everywhere else in' the
Town and the County.
13..-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This 'resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 14 is 'to set the public hearing on a Local Law.
14. Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby sets 8:00 P.M. ,
Tuesday, January 8,' 1985', Southold Town Hall, Main'Road, Southold,, New.:York,
as time and place for a public hearing on a proposed Local Law entitled, "A Local
Law in' relation to Zoning Code fees," which reads as follows, to wit:
BE IT ENACTED by the Town Board of the Town of Southold as follows:
(additions indicated by underline; ' deletions by [brackets].)
Chapter. 100 (Zoning) of the Code of the Town of Southold is hereby
amended as follows:
1. Section 100-124 thereof is amended to read as follows:
100-124. Fees
All applications to the Board of-Appeals..for any relief herein shall
be accompanied by a fee of [fifty] seventy-five dollars [($50.) ] ($75.)
2. Section 100-135 thereof is amended .to read as follows:
100-135: Fees
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All applications to the Planning Board for approval of site development
plans shall be accompanied by a fee' of- [fifty] one hundred dollars [($50.)]
($100.) .
3. Subsection (1) of Subdivision J (Permit fees) of Section 100-141 thereof
is amended to read as follows: .
J. Permit fees.
(1) The following fees shall be paid upon the filing of an application
with the Building Inspector for a building permit, which fees .
shall be paid into the general fund if the application is approved
or returned to the applicant if the application is denied:
(a) Single_family dwellings:
[1] 1 New dwellings and additions td existing dwellings:
[twenty-five] fifty dollars [ ($25.)] ($50.) plus
[five] ten centsj$0.05)] ($0.10) for each square
foot of floor area in excess of eight hundred fifty
(850) square feet.
[2] ii Accessory buildings and additions and alterations
to-existing accessory buildings: [ten] twenty-
five dollars [($10.)] ($25.) plus. [five] ten cents .
[ (�0. 05) ] ($0. 10) for each square foot of floor
area in excess of five hundred .'(500) square feet.
(b) Farm buildings and additions and alterations to existing
farm buildings: [fifteen] twenty-five dollars, [($15.)] ($25.
for each building.
(c) Hotel, .motel, multiple .dwellings and business, industrial
and all other buildings:
[1] i -New buildings and additions and alterations to
existing buildings: [fifty] one hundred dollars
[($50.) ] ($100.) plus [five] fifteen cents
[$0. 05) ] ( 0.15) for each square foot of floor
area in excess of one thousand '(1',000) squire
feet. -
[2] ii Accessory buildings and additions and alterations
to existing accessory buildings: [fifteen] twenty-
five dollars [($15.)] ($25.) plus [five] ten cents
TT�0.05) ] ($0.10) for each square foot o floor
area in excess of five hundred' (500) square feet.
(d) Foundations constructed under .existing buildings: thirty
dollars ($30.) .
(e) All other structures (i.e., fences, pools, etc.) and additions
and alterations ' to such structures: [fifteen] twenty-five
dollars [ ($15.)] ($25.) .
(f) Signs. The fee for all signs, except signs permitted by
Section 100-30C(6) (a) , shall be twenty-five cents ($0.25) for
each square foot of sign area, with a minimum fee of five
dollars ($5.) .
(9) Demolition and/or removal and/or relocation of any buildin :
one hundred dollars ($100.) .
4. Section 100-151 thereof is amended to read as follows:
. 100-151. Fees
Every petition for a change 'or amendment .to this chapter or the
Zoning Map shall be-.filed with the Town Clerk and shall be accompanied
by a fee of [two] five hundred dollars [($200.)] ($500.) .
5. This Local Law shall .take effect upon its filing with the secretary of
---
SUPERVISOR MURPHY : Any questions on it? (No response.)
14.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This 'resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
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SUPERVISOR MURPHY: . Number 15 will be a determination on a petition for a
change of zone from Residential and Agricultural "A" to "C" Light Industrial.
15. Moved by Supervisor Murphy, seconded by Justice Edwards,
WHEREAS, Elizabeth J. Homan has hereto filed a petition with the Town Clerk,
pursuant to Article XV of Chapter 100 of the Southold Town Code, fora Change of
Zone on certain property at Cutchogue, in' the Town of Southold, from "A" Residential
and Agricultural District to "C" Light Industrial District,
NOW, THEREFORE, IT IS RESOLVED AS FOLLOWS:
1. That .pursuant to the provisions of Article 8 of the Environmental Conserva-
tion Law; Part 617 of. Title 6 of the New York State Codes, Rules and Regulations;
and Chapter 44 of the Southold Town Code, the Southold Town Board, as lead agency,
does hereby determine that the action propsed is 'a Type 1 action and is 'likely to
have a significant effect on the environment.
2. That the Town Clerk immediately notify the applicant, Elizabeth J. Homan,
of this determination and further request said'applicant to prepare a draft environ-
mental impact statement, all in'accordance with said' law, rules and code.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions on it? (No response.)
IS.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 16 will ' be to. set a public hearing.
.16. Moved by Supervisor Murphy, seconded by Councilman Schondebare, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby sets 8:00 P.M.
Tuesday, January 8, 1985, Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York,
as time and place for a rehearing of the petition of Harold Reese and Frederick
Reese for relief from the Bulk requirements of the Zoning Code as provided in
Local Law No. 11 - 1983 - the applicants to pay the legal advertising costs for
this rehearing.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions? (No response.)
16.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murph-,
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 17 is 'to hire Joan Davis.
17. Moved by Supervisor Murphy, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints Joan E.
Davis as a part-time Clerk in'the Accounting Department, efective immediately,
through mid-January, at a salary of $5'. 00 per hour.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Did .we have any discussion of this earlier when
wasn't here?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Yes., Joan requested some help and this 'girl had worked
for her before. She',s going to college and .she's on the winter break and will be
able to work about two and a half.weeks.
17.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, -Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.'
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 18 is a resolution of support of the candidacy of
Robert Jester, a teacher in the Riverhead School District, a resident of Greenport,
in his quest to be included. in� the NASA "Teacher in'Space Project," a civilian
astronaut on the Space Shuttle. He's .asked us to support .him and we will and
we also will ' send out additional letters on this.'
18. Moved by Supervisor Murphy, . seconded by Justice Edwards,
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Southold wishes to go on record in
support of Robert W. Jester's application for the NASA "Teacher in Space
Project," and
WHEREAS, the Town Board is aware of the unique abilities of Robert W. Jester,
an individual who has distinguished himself as a dedicated and conscientious educator
of children for the past fourteen years, and
WHEREAS, his proficiency in' the field of education and his patience, understanding
and compassion for young people has earned him an outstanding record in' the
teaching profession and has gained the respect and admiration of the students,
their parents and his,'colleagues, and
WHEREAS, the Southold Town Board is fully convinced that Robert W. Jester
would :be .a 1superior choice to represent the teachers of America as a civilian
astronaut aboard the Space Shuttle, now, therefore, be it '
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RESOLVED that the Town Board of tte Town' of Southold wholeheartedly and
enthusiastically recommends and urges the selection of Robert W. Jester for
the. NASA "Teacher in Space 'Project."
-18.-Vote of the'Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: . That's the end of our prepared and added-to agenda.
would like to make one public announcement before we ask the Councilmen again
and that there are three openings coming up on the Conservation Advisory Council.
It will be advertised for resumes to be sent to the Town Clerk by January 18th.
At this time I would like to again ask any of the Councilmen if they have anything
to say? 'Judge Edwards?
JUSTICE. EDWARDS : I just want to wish you all a happy holiday. I'm leaving
tomorrow afternoon to go out to. visit' 'my daughter and son-in-law in California.
will be here for the hearings later thisevening but if I don't see any of you,
happy holidays. . Thank 'you,' Frank.'
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Jean?
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: I would like to add a blessed holiday to each and
every one:
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Paul? (Nothing.) Joseph?
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: I echo the sentiments. I was tempted to say "bah humbug",
but---you know, for a change of. pace.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: We'll let Jay do that.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Na comments.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Okay, at this 'time is there anyone in the audience who
would like to address the Board? Miss Adams. Please use the mike.
JODY ADAMS: I have two separate things. I did' not know the PBA, contract was
going to be voted on today and I, have some questions. Yes, may I ask some
questions and try and get some answers?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Sure.
MISS ADAMS. How long have the negotiations been going on?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Two, three months.
MISS ADAMS: How often?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: A dozen times.
MISS ADAMS: Who was representing the PBA?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Mr. Clark..
MISS ADAMS: He is still chair,: Was there a lawyer?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: No.
MISS ADAMS: On neither side?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Nope.
MISS ADAMS: . These meetings were never public?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: . Nope.
MISS ADAMS: Under what law, I mean what law. can you quote me which says
we can negotiate secretly on this 'police contract?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any contract negotiations on salaries like that.
MISS ADAMS: No, the PERB are not, they are often open to the public.
would like some day a law given me just so I can refer to it.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: We'll look it up.
MISS ADAMS: I appreciate it.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Sure, be glad to.
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MISS ADAMS: I do feel that it 'is an important• contract and at some point, prior
to your voting on it, that perhaps the public should be able to review it and
comment. Whether or not those comments, like so many things, will have any
impact at all. I think _this 'is just a little---okay, that's what I had to say on that.
Now I have a statement. .Ready, aim, fire. Thank you. You were given December
third a statement which I intend. to make to your Board, the press and the people
of Southold. Since that date several things of interest have occurred. Among those
was Mr. Edward's vote which gave .a paid seat to his. cousin, the changing of manage-
ment of the psychiatric'unit 'of Eastern Long Island Hospital, and the issuance of
the standards in regard---these are. all far fetched, I mean, they're not related--
in regard to a• committee for complaints regarding access to the handicapped. Also,
in:a brochure left in libraries by the woman's group, New Directions,. was an
excerpt of an article on rape and sexual. abuse. I sent for and received a copy
of that article and .it 'has been left for you with the Tow Clerk along with copies
of other material referred to today. The title of that article which was printed in
Southampton's newspaper was, "Sexual Abuse: Veil of Silence is Lifted." All of
these things relate. . Southold Town suffers from a Veil of Silence. It's press
interacts with its populace and limits what it 'prints for a. variety of reasons includ-
ing personal aggrandizement; preference for paid space and. catering to what it views
as the limited interest and intelligence of its reading public. Instead of informing
and trying to raise the level of knowledge and information the local papers tend for
a variety of reasons to under inform or not inform. This 'is .one of the many reasons
that your town government is presently in trouble. I liked very much the concept
of complaints regarding the handicapped and the idea of a committee to handle them.
if you can give me more information as to how that committee will operate,- I would
like to know. Is this a committee that has been present for some--you know, is it
just renewed every year?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: It's .been- just appointed and it's. working right now.
-MISS ADAMS: Okay, if someone files a complaint, what happens? I now you're
the*
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: It will be handled by the Committee.
MISS ADAMS: . Okay, does the Committee meet formally again,' can .the public attend?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Sure; certainly, any meeting of the Committee.
MISS ADAMS: When .will:it-.'be announced, how will' it 'be announced?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: I don't know off, hand what date the next meeting is, but
it will' be on file. in the Town Clerk's Office shortly. Some time in 'January.
MISS ADAMS: As I say, this ] would have to check on to the accuracy and it's
fairly insulting to you, Mr. Murphy. I will, however, repeat it.' I did, however,
talk to someone who offered to serve on the committee and he was told by Supervisor
Murphy, "We aren't interested .in'the handicapped, we only want the money." Does
this 'sound like something you've ever said'to anyone. who was---.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: I doubt if ] ever said'anything like that. Go on.
MISS ADAMS: . This 'is interesting. I am the originator of an organization called
Victims of Police Crime. I have always been interested in the misuse of police
power and never more so than as observed in' this Town - Perhaps because I feel
that in a town this small one should be able to do something where in a larger area
a feeling of helplessness may be justified. ' The formation of committees, the
espousing of ideas without substance do a disservice to the citizens of the area
served. The Town of Southold has a law regarding ethics on the.books, yet even
in situations such as Mr. Edward's recent. vote, that committee is not used. It has
never been used. For a period of time there were laws and procedures in' regard
to housing discrimination, which somehow, when asked for, were nowhere locatable
within the Town. Unlike Mr. Murphy, I don't think we are all necessarily "just
interested in the money", but it's easier to ignore the problems then to deal with
them, particularly until we are directly affected. In a small town which is. currently
engaging in local hiring practices, the issue of mutual guilt is 'raised--it is always
raised, but more so when people are brought up together. For a time, only those .
born and raised here served in government. Since each knew the other's past and
present peccedillo's--and l don't know how to spell iteither--government engaged
in mutual blakcmail, in other words, I know something about you, you know something
about me, so neither of you are going to do anything. In the instance of Mr. Edwards,
one, the Town Board probably is unaware of the ethics law, and two, they think, Lord,
if he goes before it, what will happen to me. I think this issue ought to be brought
before the Ethics Board. I think voting in�your own cousin is questionable, frankly.
There are a great many things which should be done,. and. could be done, about this
but primarily it should never have been allowed to develop as.a practice. Writing,
often by former police officers, some of whom have been involved in corrupt practices,
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and caught, acknowledge and expand,on the problems of creating a decent police
department. Bob Leucci, 'of. Price of the City, has written his own semi-fictional
book in which he states, "five percent of police will be bad no matter whast, five
percent will' be good, and the rest will follow the leadership." In this instance, 1
suggest that that leadership be the Town Council 'and those with new ideas which
your Council 'appoints. In closing today I would like to make one or two comments
and then quote a paragraph from the article on sexual abuse. My most recent run-in
with your police was with an officer called Baglivi. ' At the completion, more or less,
of our interaction he mumbled several, to me, memorable things: "Well, maybe I did
wrong, but it turned out okay," and "1 did'good, didn't I?" Which is not really very
literate. I do not like the. idea-of someone being considered "doing good" as a result
of "doing wrong." When a, citizen is ""done wrong" whatever the consequences, that
person is made. very, angry. He or she feels a proper sense bf injustice and .
frustration. I feel that your police should "do right", or be disciplined or corrected
and that the citizen should be fairly informed, as your handicapped rules indicate.
1 think that probably to adopt the rules for the complaint of the handicapped to
police conduct, one would have to develop a category w'herein diametrically opposed
and unreconcilable statements would have both parties put under oath, formally.
Would like. very much to be part-of such a committee. I would like very much for
your Council to begin to understand your moral, ethical and legal responsibilities
towards the citizens who live in or pass through your town. Material regarding this
and other police and authority related matters, and in some instances failings are
being left .with the clerk and probably local newspapers, despite their disinterest.
am looking for like minded. citizens. Re: sexual abuse, which does relate to both
specific problems within'your police .department and, I feel, in'general, the attitude
towards sexual abuse issimilar to that towards police abuse. Either it's the victim's
fault, or he or she deserved it.' The paragraph from a story by Jeanne Voege, where
she is quoting somone named Larel Brett, who works for Suffolk Community College,
and Victims Information Bureau, said; and this is a quote, "The conviction. rate
nationwide on sexual assault is "shockingly .low: only 13 percent, she said. This,
Ms. Brett feels, is because we, . as a society, allow it to happen. One of the problems
is that 'victims are blamed for their own victimization. We do this "to distance
ourselves from the pain. It's hard to believe that we could be put in a position
over which we have no control—we're embarrassed when a loved-one or friend is
victimized. We don't know what to do,'.- she said One of the first steps to combat
this 'crime is to take the blame off the victim;' Ms. Brett stated.' Instead of blaming,
'say I'm sorry, I'd like to hear what happened."'-=.this 'f feel is most pertinent, "A
climate in'which the victim can talk about the experience and can tell the authorities
without fear of condemnation is necessary." A situation in which a person is beaten,
charged with a crime or violation, insulted, thrown into a cell or in other ways
injured and denigrated for wanting to discuss, tell,. complain'or inform, as presently
happs within your police force, violates the very real spirit and proper spirit this
article invokes. Further, .it violates the constitutional rights of redress, free speech
and other such rights' that your Board has sworn to uphold. 1 beg that you accept
your responsibility.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Thank you. Anyone else like to make any comments? Ruth.
MRS. RUTH OLIVA, President, North Fork Environmental Council: As you know, we
said that we were going to .take an airport survey and I just have some preliminary
results, which I thought you might be interested in. After the holidays we will'
write up a good report and break it down by election districts. But so far--and the
questions were three of them. First, do you believe Southold Town should establish
and own an airport? If the answer is 'yes, would you use such an airport for air
taxi service,- commuting or other purposes? And, would you be willing to have the
airport near you or near your neighborhood? And I just have documented, at.lunch •
time, - just the first question. There were 374 people called so far. We have at least
another 100' to call. Of the first question, which is, Do you believe Southold Town
should establish and own an airport? 2.30 people said, . no, which is '610; 81 people
said; yes, that was 22%; 56 people 'said-- don't know,' and that's .150 of the total. And
there were a few abstentions, a few don't cares, a couple people hung up. But that
really takes, care of it 'and I'II try and break down.the rest of them so far. I thought
you'd be interested. So far 61%, no.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Thank you, Ruth, appreciate it.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: How di&you determine--who did'you call?
MRS. OLIVA: I'm. sorry. We got a. copy of the. voter registration list and we took
every .25th person on that list and if the phone had been disconnected or a few were
dead or moved away, then we .just moved to the next number and started to do it.'
And we will have the names, addresses: and telephone numbers of everybody so it
can be checked. It's fully documented. And I want to wish you all a merry
Christmas, too.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Were the people that you called advised as to, the
obligations of ownership'or was it just phrased in that manner?
MRS.. OLIVA: It was just phrased in that manner.
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COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: . That Southold Town should own an airport.
MRS. OLIVA: To establish and own an airport.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: How many questions were asked?
MRS. OLIVA: Just the three. To own and establish an airport and if the answer
was, yes, then would they use the airport- for an air 'taxi service,. commuting or
what have you, and the third question, would you mind having it in your neighborhood?
And some people didn't mind having it 'in the neighborhood. And there's been
some interesting comments too and I'll ,work that out.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY : Ruth, 1 hope you didn't find any dead people on the
.voter registration list.
MRS. OLIVA: Yes. 1 went through the Orient one and there were people that
had died that were on it, because evidently 'it 'was explained to me, I think, by
somebody that was on the Board of Elections for a few years, that you're given--
you're sent the card and they give you a. couple years to do it, so there are dead
people on it.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Stuart.
MR. STUART HARVEY, Southold: I missed the first part, so I don't know exactly
what went on, but you're having this sticker that we're going to put on our car
for $2..00?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Yes.
MR.. HARVEY: How much did it cost to produce this 'sticker and put it on? $11. 98?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Probably about that.
MR. HARVEY: Yes. Can't see it. 1 mean, this is 'silly. ; 1 mean, the budget keeps
going up, the taxes keep going up, we don't collect, really on user stuff. I think
to be realistic you should. start at $5.00 on something like that.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Well, it didn't. cost anything--it''costs very little. It does
cost something, and---- -
MR. HARVEY: $1,-600.00..
TOWN CLERK. TERRY: . That's .right, Mr. Harvey, but we issue more than 800
permits.
MR. HARVEY: Yes, but .this, I think-'-It's the same with the sand. Now, we're
getting sand out of that dump up there and 1 think we're getting too much of it
out.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Landfill now.
MR. HARVEY: Landfill; I'm. sorry. Really it 'is good. If there's .one thing you
people can be proud of it's the Landfill; it really is terrific. But the sand, I mean,
we're taking too much sand out of there that's going for fill, not just for. cement
and that. A lot of these local people go out with their dump trucks, fine, but
you're getting these 20 'yard jobs in' there and a lot of them and when that sand
goes out we're going to need it 'for dumping and I think that we should come up
with a good study on that, not only how much to charge but to make sure we don't
dig ourselves out, I mean. I think that some of you people are on the Landfill
Committee. 1 think it wouldn't hurt if you run a study on it,' how fast it's going
out and what we're going to do when it 'does go out.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: We expect to be doing that.
MR. HARVEY: I think there should be. a limit to the size you can take out on
loads of sand and instead of being cheaper as it goes up, get more expensive.
That's my two gripes this 'week.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Thank you.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Part of the Landfill Committee report that I gave this
morning addressed that issue and granted this is a very thumbnail 'sketch of the
sand picture, but Rodney Douglass, the Supervisor of the Landfill; indicates that
at the present rate of well over 50,'000-'yards a year we probably only have about
six and a half years left of sand, including the new property. We are creating
cover that, in' addition to the sand, by recycling some of the 'material that we're
getting in there, but you're quite right, we have .to slow that rate of fill'going
out of the Landfill. One of the things we can do is.' I think, require or offer
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incentives for people that do the landscaping, to bring back material. For instance,.
the largest user, I think, of the fill' has been the contractor that is working on the
Stirling Cove property and he has, by his own admission, used about 40,000 yards
of the 50,000 yards that have gone out since April.
MR. HARVEY: $2.00 a yard.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND:- $2.50 a yard, and he has also extracted almost that
much fill: from the property site, which he has probably in turn sold to someone
else. I mean, I've seen where he deposited it so I know, and that fill _could be
used as cover, which and possibly we could buy back or get him to return some.
MR. HARVEY: In other words, he doesn't get the sand if he doesn't bring you
back fill.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Well, sometimes they have to raise the elevation in areas
of flood hazard and things like that, . so you really, can't say that, but it's a complex
issue and I think you're right, .we do .have to address it because we, are running out
of the resource.
MR. .HARVEY: Definitely.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY : Anyone else in the audience would like to comment?
MR. PHIL BARTH, Southold: First of all I want to go on record as objecting to
the hearing that you're going to have on the Reese property. I think it's unfair
and I think it's unethical. . This 'gentleman--Idon't know him from Adam, and I'm
not really talking against Mr. Reese, I'm. talking against the method that was employed
and I think that he had his opportunity. at the hearing to present any evidence that
he had and 1 know .this Board would have even given him' an extension if he said
that he had some evidence. that he couldn't dig 'up. Nothing like that was presented.
He came here and it 'was almost like another hearing and there was no one here to
oppose him' or have the opportunity to oppose what he was saying, and I think
that's--we've gone through this time and time again and I think we ought to cut
it out. If a guy has a hearing--someone has a hearing, let them come down and
present .their.'evidence at a hearing and if there's a.determination, .that's it.' Also
I want to urge the Board to really consider hiring a second Bay Constable. I live
on the Bay and .I know what it's like. The Constable has a heck of.a big:piece of
waterfront to cover and I don't think that one Bay Constable can cover it all and
1 think another Bay Constable bs;'W order.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Thank you, sir. Anyone else like to speak? Miss Adams?
MISS ADAMS: I was so nervous when I was speaking. Did, I� mention your Chief
of Police when I went through that, do any.of you recall?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: I don't remember.
MISS ADAMS: Does anybody remember? May I read this paragraph which I believe
may have skipped?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: You certainly may.
MISS ADAMS: . Thank you.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: You realize this is 'part of a record.
MISS ADAMS: That's :right. Libel,: here I. come, right. I believe that the mandated
and probably to be unused law regarding. complaints for the handicapped• could be
adopted and used in relation to police. conduct, and should be. I think that there is
no longer any attempt to have your police follow law and accepted and decent practices.
think that your Chief is part of the hail fellow, born here community and has lost
whatever small desire he may once have had in. relation to a "decent" police force.
years ago he would admit the error or possible error but then refuse to do anything.
Today he won't even admit or research the error. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Thank you. Is there anyone else would like to comment?
(No response.) At this time I would like to wish everybody the best of holidays
and a healthy and a happy and prosperous new year-and at this time I'd like .to
recess so we could finish the audit 'of the bills and have them paid before the first
of the year. Thank you.
Moved by Supervisor.Murphy, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that a recess be called at thistime, 4:05 P.M. , meeting to reconvene
following the evening public hearings.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
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WORK SESSION
4: 10 P.M. - The Board. completed the audit of the outstanding vouchers.
4:30 P.M. - Work' Session adjourned.
REGULAR MEETING (Reconvened) - 8:40 P.M.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY : I would like a motion for the approval of the audit .of
today's bills.
Moved by Councilman Townsend, .seconded by Councilman Stoutenburgh, it was
RESOLVED that the following-audited. vouchers be and hereby are authorized to
be paid; General Fund Whole Town bills ini'the amount of $21,580. 10; General
Fund Part Town bills in the amount of $29,672.62; Highway Department bills in
the amoutn of '$32,605'.05; Capital Account, Agricultural Land Development Rights
bills in' the amount of $4,925.51; Southold Wastewater Treatment Plant bills in the
amount of $83,140. 33.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY : If you would like to make a decision on the hearings we
had tonight. . The first one; (Blum) I would just as soon we do not make a decision
tonight as one of the' members is 'not .here and I would rather the full Board to make,
in fairness to him'. Ray, we are going to have a special meeting on the 28th at
11:00 A.M. At .that time it will be on the agenda.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: And our Councilmen will have a transcript of
this meeting.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Would you like to pass on the Local Law for resident parking
fees?
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH- I think we should have all members on that.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: We could do .it on the 28th. The Local Law on the, parking
of vehicles?
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH : Yes, do it.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Same thing?
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: I. could do that one now. I don't care about that
one, but I---. .
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Well, what difference does it make? As long as we're
going to do the other two, might as well do all three.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: All right, do all three of.them then.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: At this time I would entertain a motion to adjourn.
Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, . seconded by Councilman Townsend, it was
RESOLVED that this Town Board meeting be and hereby is adjourned at 8:45 P.M.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murph
This 'resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
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Judith T. Terry, Sou old Town Clerk
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