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SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD
MARCH 27, .1984.
WORK SESSION
9:15 A.M. - The Board met with Paul J. Flagg, Marine Scientist, to discuss
the .1984 Seed Clam Culture Program.. Mr. Flagg, who ran the program for
the past two years reviewed the exceptional survival and growth over that
period of time, proving that. Southold Town waters may be the ideal for rafting
clams; some of the clams reached marketable size' in 20 months. Supervisor
Murphy explained that the Town is looking this 'year for. careful,controlled
expansion of the program and scientific advice. Mr. Flagg outlined his 1984
proposal, which is $7,000..00 for the -scientific- 'development of the program.; and
stated he is 'certain' he can obtain`. grant funding for the Town in an amount up
to $20,'000.00, stating there is. considerable Economic 'Development money available
for this 'type of program. He said' his proposal includes running the program,
monitoring monthly, and inspections every two weeks. He would also meet every
two weeks with the committee (Mr. Flagg, Superintendent of Highways Dean,
Bay Constable Dzenkowski, 'one member of the Town Trustees and one member
of the Town Board) to. determine long-term goals, and suveys of the Town creeks.
to determine the most suitable areas for rafts and planting in' the future. The
Board will discuss and further study Mr. Flagg's proposal before reaching a
decision.
10: 15 A.M. - Fishers Island Ferry District Commissioners Reynolds duPont, Jr. ,
Chairman, and Thomas F. Doherty, .Jr. , and Manager-Secretary Robert P. Kauff,
met with the Board to discuss awarding the contract for management of Elizabeth
Airport on Fishers Island. They expressed their satisfaction with the present
manager, Richard Grebe, and the .attention he gives the airport. They rejected
the bid'of New London Flying Service due to the increase in traffic that could
be expected. Further, .there is 'a need for two garages on Fishers Island, and
Mr. Grebe utilizes part of the airport building for a garage facility. The new
contract is basically the same as the present one, with three minor changes:
(1) required daily inspection of the runway lighting system, (2) termination
clause; (3) three year contract (prior one was five years) . Opposition to the
Town paying landing fees was discussed. It was explained that this is part
of the operator's income and Mr. duPont suggested that the Town Board
discuss this directly with :the operator.--The Board briefly discussed the
purchase of the U. S. Government property on Fishers Island.
10:40 A.M. - Mr. Stanley Gould, representative of Dr. Francis Perrone, met
with the Board to discuss Dr. Perrone's application for a Wetland Permit on
Gids Island, Orient. Dr. Perrone owns Gids Island -and wishes to contract
a catwalk, floating dock and a summer home there. Due to the controversy
concerning the proposed project, Mr. Gould explained to the Board that the
materials would be brought in by boat or possibly a prefabricated house floated
in at high tied and placed on 7.1 foot high stilts. Consideration is also being
given to flying everything in by helicopter. He assured the Board that Dr.
Perrone has no intention of developing the property or disturbing the terrain.
Mr. Gould as advised that any further information concerning the proposed
application should be presented when a public hearing is held on the matter.
11:00 A.M. - Mr. Eugene Drum came before the Board to discuss what he
described as a severe drainage problem on Henry's Lane, Peconic (subdivision
known as Peconic Knolls) . Mr. Drum is involved in the construction of a
home on Henry's Lane and has researched the background on the release of
the performance bond on that road. He stated that on July 29, 1983 there
was a letter from Superintendent Dean recommending certain improvements
to be made. According to Planning Board Inspector Davis' report of August
25, 1983, the work that was done did not correspond to Mr. Dean's recommenda-
tions, however, the bond was released. Mr. Drum said that there is a pond
area there and a bulldozer sunk into it, causing great expense: He is asking
the Board to provide fill to fill the pond. Mr. Dean said that it 'is all clay
in that area, and he is certain there is an underground spring. The Highway
Committee will look at the site on Monday, April '2nd.
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11: 15 A.M. - The Board discuss the.. rental.o.f .a room in:the Fishers Island
Theatre from the Ferry District for the use of Justice Edwards. Justice .Edwards
said there would be more security there than he presently has at the Firehouse,
but there is 'some work that must be done on the room before he can occupy it.
The District requires separate utilities, and access to the room during the movie
theatre season, as the stairs to the projection booth are located therein. The
necessary painting and repairs. can be done by the Highway Department. Further
arrangements will' be• made to facilitate the move.--Discussion was also held with
Justice Edwards relative to paying his wife for court clerk services. Justice
Edwards submitted a petty, cash. voucher for this payment and they were pulled
from the audit by Supervisor .Murphy as being improper. Supervisor Murphy
questioned the need for a clerk, since Justice Edwards did not have one court
case in January; and only one case in February. Justice Edwards said that
his monthly reports, which the Supervisor was citing, did not reflect the amount
of work involved, there is more than meets the eye where his duties are concerned.
He 'further stated that $1,500. 00 was put in the 1984 Budget to cover services
of a clerk on Fishers Island. He explained that his wife spends at least seven
hours a week on his Justice Court work and Councilman work. Supervisor
Murphy stated there is .no provision made for paying the wives of Councilmen.
Town Attorney Tasker questioned the possibility of a conflict of interest under
the: General Municipal Law, and was asked to research it and submit 'an opinion.
11 :30 A.M. - James R. Douglass, Sanitation Supervisor, met with the Board to
discuss his new position. He said he looks forward to working as a team. with
the Board and Superintendent.of Highways. Dean. Whereas there is a conference
being held in' Boston on composting and landfill management, beginning on March
29th, it 'was the decision of the Board to' amend their appointment of Mr. Douglass
from April 1st to March 27th to enable him to attend as a Town employee.
11 :35 A.M. - A brief discussion was held, concerning the contract with the North
Fork Animal Welfare League, Inc. ,: the Village of Greenport, and the Town. The.
League has proposed additional changes to the proposed contract, which calls
for a cap on the number of dogs they will'take, and the Town..cannot put that
into the contract. Councilman Townsend will meet with representatives of the
League to discuss this.--The letter .of the Cutchogue-New Suffolk Historical
Council concerning the preservation of Fort Corchaug was discussed. Their
letter will be referred to the Planning Board for consideration under the master
plan update. --The decision of the Village of Greenport to revise their reassess-
ment of the Town property at Beach Road, Greenport, was discussed. The
new assessment was only reduced .$250. 00.. Supervisor Murphy will attempt to
negotiate with the Village for a lower assessment.
11:50 A.M. - Mr. Frederick F. Meyer, Director of Planning for the Town of
Smithtown met with the Board to discuss planning techniques of his department.
Mr. Meyer joined the Town Board for lunch to continue their discussion.
12:20 P.M. - Recess for lunch. .
1 :55 P.M. - Work Session reconvened. Mr. William Mullen, member of the
Southold Town Planning Board addressed the Board concerning research he
has done on available funding to assist in the payment of the master plan
report. As long as the Town has a Conservation Advisory Council, it would
meet the criteria for funding. Mr. Mullen was asked to discuss this with
Community Development Administrator Jim' McMahon.-- Mr. .Mullen also presented
resumes from Robert Scheiner and Richard Hanley who presently work as
planning assistances for the Town of Riverhead.--He advised the Board he
has had a discussion with Planning Board Chairman Henry Raynor who is
resigning his 'positiori as of April 30th, but would be willing to work as a
consultant to the Town Board and Planning Board for-the completion and
implementation of the updated Master Plan.
1 : 15 P.M. - Letter from Chief Winters. concerning cleaning of Police Headquarters
was discussed. A resolution (No. 22) was placed on the agenda to employ two
part-time custodial works for Police Headquarters and other assignments. -The
need for additional funding for the proposed Scavenger Waste Treatment Plant
was discussed. Supervisor Murphy stated H2M has received a letter from the
DEC confirming the Town will receive the additional funding needed. Town
Attorney Tasker advised the Board that once the Town has received_ .this letter
from the DEC, he will'.apply to the State Comptroller for consent to increase
the bond amount for the project. This 'will require a resolution, and publication
of the proposed icnrease.--Councilman Stoutenburgh questioned the status of
the roads in Highland Estates, Cutchogue. There is a bond for the completion
and improvements of the roads which has been in effect for a number of years,
but the roads are still inadequate. .The owner of the property, Richard Mohring,
will' be invited to meet with the Board during the April 10th Work Session.
The Board discussed their interview for Planning Consultants, and the
majority of the Board was in'agreement that David Emilita of Szepatowski Assoc-
iates Inc. was their choice. Mr. Emilita will be invited to again meet with the
Board to discuss the terms of a contract for his services.
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2:55 P.M. - Work Session adjourned.
REGULAR MEETING
3:00. P.M.
A Regular Meeting of the Southold Town Board was held on Tuesday,
March 27, 1984, at the Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York.
Supervisor Murphy opened the meeting at 3:00 P.M. with .the Pledge of
Allegiance to the Flag.
Present: Supervisor Francis J. Murphy
Councilman Joseph L. Townsend, Jr.
Justice Raymond W. Edwards
Councilman Paul Stoutenburgh
Councilman James A. Schondebare
Town Clerk Judith T. Terry
Town Attorney Robert W. Tasker
Superintendent of Highways Raymond C. Dean
Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Councilman Schondebare, it was
RESOLVED that the minutes of the Regular Southold Town Board Meeting of
March 13, 1984, and Special Town Board Meetings of March 21 and 231 1984 be
and hereby are approved.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Schondebare, Councilman
Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh, seconded by Councilman Townsend, it was
RESOLVED that the next Regular Meeting of the Southold Town Board will be
held .on Tuesday, April 10, 1984, at 7: 30 P.M. , at the Southold Town Hall,
Main Road, .Southold, New York.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Schondebare, Councilman
Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This 'resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.-
Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Councilman Schondebare, it. was
RESOLVED that the following audited bills be and hereby are approved:
General Fund Part Town bills in the amount of $1,200. 00; Fishers Island Ferry
District bills in the amount of $300.00.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Schondebare, Councilman
Stoutenburgh, .Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy..
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
I. REPORTS.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: We 'will move on to the first order of business, the
Reports. I'd like to comment that these reports are on file in the Town Clerk's
Office for anyone to see.
1. Justice Edwards for the month of February (1984) on Fishers Island.
2. Fishers Island Shellfish Reseeding Programs. (From Steve Malinowski.)
3. Justice Tedeschi's _Annual Report for 1983.
4. Councilmen's reports. Councilman Schondebare?
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: I'd just like to report that we did have a
meeting between Mr. Stoutenburgh, myself and Jim McMahon with regards to
establishing a recreation facility department in the Town of Southold. We
interviewed the town recreation coordinator for the Towns of Southampton
and Riverhead and Southampton has something like over $750,000 budgeted,
and they get something back in'the neighborhood of $350,000, back from fees
from their beaches over there on the Ocean. We're just totally out of league
with them. We're somewhat closer to Riverhead, but we're still working on
that. If Paul has anything el;se he wants to add on that?
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: No, that's it.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Thank you, Jay. Joe?
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: A couple of things. I met with several people,
or several parents of handicapped children, Mrs. LePre, Mrs. Kujawski, and
Mrs. Cardona, to try to establish a program that I imagine will have to run
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hand and glove with our regular--with this .,new proposal Jay was just talking
about. We're trying to establish a recreation program that will allow-the
approximately 22 physically handicapped children in Town to participate in
some sports that other people in the Town participate in. They are going
to form a committee that's representative of, I think, of each area, and
the first thing, since we're so late into the year,. is to try to work out a
program that works around--that revolves around our swimming program,
which is what they had originally requested. Hopefully it will be expanded
somewhat. I did talk to Jim McMahon, briefly. I didn't have a chance to
report to the Board, and we feel that we can do something that will cost a
little bit Less than what they were originally asking. In the neighborhood
of about $10.00 per handicapped child, according to Bob Muir, and then
by the end of the year we should have a program that we can apply to the
budget for next year.--Secondly, I attended the hearing that Greenport was
having on the Mills situation, where they are establishing a new plant in the
Village of Greenport, and I understood that the Supervisor was going to speak
opposing the tax exemption, which would result in the Town losing potential
taxes, and he was detained unavoidably and I spoke almost as articulately as
I'm speaking now on that issue. There were' some other things, but' I can't
remember them off hand, so--
SUPERVISOR, MURPHY: Thank you, Joseph. Paul?
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: 1'd like to bring you up on the Inland
Waterways, I'm Chairman of that group. There is always the annual thing
of dredging our creeks, maintenance dredging of our creeks, and I've passed
out to each of you a .list of the creeks that have been suggested in somewhat
of a priority, and have confirmed these, to some extent, with Mr. Guldi who
is head of the Public Works of the County, who does the dredging and what
have you in our Town, and I'll just read them off for the public's information.
The_ first one, of course, is 'the New Suffolk boat ramp, and this is most
important because this is where our flounder fishing 'people come from, and
the number two priority, or one priority, it could . be either way, Goldsmith
Inlet, which our Superintendent of Highways reported is in pretty plugged up
condition right now. Then we move down to Brushes Creek and Brushes Creek
is the first creek in our Town, in Laurel, down on the Bay. Then we go to
Boatman's Harbor. These are all created by the problem of sand moving along
our beaches, which is 'a natural occurance, and then we have to remove this
sand and usually we place the sand, usually, down drift whenever we can.
Then there's one at Coreys Creek, which was never quite finished from last
year, there was tongue of sand there we'd like removed. Cedar Beach, which
is always a problem, this is number six. Little Creek, which is just ahead of
Nassau Point, just before you come to Nassau Point and the Causeway. This
one fills in and you can walk across it almost. And so. the last one would be
Port of Egypt, and Port of Egypt has a new problem that they are having a
tongue of sand, coming to the west of them. Usually the sand was at the'eas,t
end, this year it's at the west end and they'd like that removed. And the
last one I have is West Lake which is 'a new one and has to have a lot more
work done on it before we can jump right into it, and that's why I have a .
question mark at the end of that one. West Lake is a small. inlet down in
Bayview. It was done years ago by a clamshell bucket and whether or not
the Town wants to get involved in that, I don't know, but we'll have to be
working on that. But that's the report and that's what we're suggesting to
do.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: 'Thank you, Paul. Anything else? Paul?
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: No, nothing' else.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Judge Edwards?
JUSTICE EDWARDS: Nothing, thank you.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: I would like to report I did travel up to Albany with
the other Supervisors in Suffolk County and hopefully--in a lobbying effort to
get an increase in State Aid. There's two plans before them. One will increase
about $57,000, and another one, if they just' use the same formula and use the
1980 census instead of the 1970 census figure, we would' increase almost $100,000.
We really won't know. I .spoke to Assemblyman Sawicki yesterday, and we really
.won't know until the budget is finalized, hopefully on the first of April.--We had
Paul Flagg,on our Clam Seeding Program, in this morning and hopefully at our
next meeting we'll have a resolution on to see what we're going to do as far as
monitoring our very successful Seed Clam Program.
11 . PUBLIC NOTICES.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Moving on to the second. item on the agenda, Public
Notices. Who would like to read that? Paul?
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COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: 1. Notice of Complete Application by Peter
and James Kreh, Camp Mineola Road, Mattituck, to construct 40± lineal feet
of timber bulkhead at the landward edge of the intertidal marsh, 3 ft. by
12 ft. ramp, 5 ft. by 20 ft. float and three mooring piles, and dredge a
20 ft. by 40 ft. area to 5 ft. below mean low water. This project is located
on the eastern shoreline of James Creek, north of Strongs Marina, Mattituck.
Any comments must be put in' by March 30th, 1984 to the DEC. A copy of
this is in the Town Clerk's Office.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 2 is a Notice of Complete Application of
Renate Riedel, Tidal Wetlands, to construct a one family dwelling 72 ft. land-
ward of the tidal wetland boundary. A variance is requested from the minimum
setback of the developmental- restrictions of Part 661, Tidal Wetlands Land Use
Regulations. Project is located 322 feet north of New Suffolk Avenue, east
side of Meadow Lane, Deep Hole, Mattituck. Comments to the New York State
DEC by March 30th, 1984.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Number 3 is another Notice of Complete Application.
The applicant is Wilhelm Franken and it's: for the construction of a one family
dwelling a minimum of 40 feet from newly installed timber bulkhead. Project
site is on east side of Gull Pond, west side of Osprey Nest Road, Greenport.
Contact to be made no later than April 6th, 1984 to the New York State Depart-
ment of Environmental Conservation.
4. Notice from the Army Corps of Engineers of a application on behalf of
Joseph Fischetti to construct a 20 foot by 4 foot open pile supported timber pier,
in addition to that 70 linear leet of timberbulkhead. This is to take place at
Arshamomaque Pond, Middle Road, Southold. As this work is minor in nature,
authorization may be by letter of permission. They want your comments within
20 days of the date of this letter which was March 15th, so that would be by
the 5th of April, or so. Dennis Suszkowski is the individual at the Army
Corps who you get .in touch with.
5. Another from the Department of Army Corps of Engineers regarding
application of Robert Wilson, and the activity is a 20 foot by 4 foot open pile
supported fixed pier and is to take place in West Creek, 'Little Peconic Bay.
Contact date is 20 days from March 21
6. Notice of Complete Application, Department of Environmental Conserva-
tion. Applicant is Anna Pacifico for the construction of a swimming pool 65 foot
landward of the tidal wetland boundary. Contact, person is Charles Hamiltion
at the DEC Building No. 40, Stony Brook. Comments are to be in no later than
April 13th.
7. Another notice from the Army Corps of Engineers. The applicant is
Lewis Edson. The activity is a 30 foot open pile supported pier with a walk
ramp 20 ft. by 6 ft. to be elected a minimum of 3 ft., 45 feet off shore of the
mean high water line. The person to contact is Dennis Suszkowski. Comments
have to be in by April 11th. The Town Clerk has these things on record if
anybody would like to see them.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Thank you, Joseph.
III . COMMUNICATIONS.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: We move on to the third item of business today,
Communications. The first one is from Long Island Cares, Inc. It's their
minutes of their third meeting of the sub-committee on hunger and nutrition
related problems on the North Fork. These are all on record in the Town
Clerk's Office if anyone would ike to read them.
2. From the Peconic Bay Estates Property Owners Association, Inc.
concerning a recreational facility and planning in Southold Town. One of
their recommendations we will file it and keep them in mind.
3. Letter to Mr. Dean from a Mr. J. Royal Gifford from the Laughing
Water Property Owners Association on the fine job they did in putting in
culverts under the road and stabilizing the shoulders.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: Do you have a copy of this, Ray?
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SUPERINTENDENT OF HIGHWAYS DEAN: Yes.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: There's a second part that needs your
attention.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: You did such a lovely job they'd like you to
come back again.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number .4 is 'a letter from our Assemblyman Joe
Sawicki telling us that the legislation to correct the pension of the late Mel
Kelsey is being taken care of.
5. From the Fishers Island Civic Association, Robert Haskins, concerning
the Master Plan. Copy of this has been given to the Planning Board and the
consultant.
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6. From Long Island Cablevision.-`... :(Re: planned programming for Riverhead.)
7. Report of Steve Malinowski on the clam program and if we'd like to be
included and some input--I'm sorry, it's from Justice Edwards sending me the
copy of Steve Malinowski's report on the clam program (Fishers Island) , and
then the comments that Fishers Isiand--would like to be included in the local
input on the master_oa-n. --This has been passed on to the Planning Board
and given .to -the consultant from RPPW.
8. Letter from the Supervisor of Oyster Bay asking for support for
industrial development bonds. We did send a letter of support in to him.
9. A letter from the Mattituck Creek Watchdogs concerned about basically
the master plan, and some very strict zoning, not rezoning in the creek. This
has been passed on to the Planning Board and the consultant also.
10. Letter to Mr. Dyson, Chairman of the Power Authority, from the Plum
Island Animal Disease Center, who is a very high energy electric user, in support
of the Marcy South Transmission Line.
11. Letter from Mr. Carmichael concerning the policing of the parking lot
at Goldsmiths Inlet. Thanking my predecessor, Mr. Pell and the Town Board
for their efforts in working with the County in helping with a severe problem -
down there.
12. Letter from the Suffolk County Village Officials Association, Mr. Roy
Wines, President, who is the Village Mayor in Southampton, and he is against
a Home Rule message that we had just passed, denying zoning powers to new
villages.
13. From Assemblyman Hochbrueckner from Port Jefferson, and it's concerning
a striped bass bill that our former Assemblyman, and present Assemblyman worked
very hard to fight for the last two years. George now has joined the fight and
hopefully the commercial fishermen out here will be better protected if more of
them realize the mistake they've made.
14. East End Arts and Humanities Council announces the appointment of
a new director, Judith Kaufman Weiner, as their Executive Director.
15. Letter from the Town of Riverhead on the U.D.C. Aquaculture Project.
would like to ask any Town Board member if they can attend this. The hear-
ing is in`Riverhead Town Hall tonight at 6:00 o'clock. I think someone from the
Town should be there. Our Bay Constable can't be there.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: I might be there.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Okay, thank you, Paul. Anyone else be able to go
we would appreciate it. 1'II try to go myself. . Number 16 is a letter from the
Governor of Massachusetts "Establishing the Nantucket Islands Land Bank."
.was requested some time ago to write to him and ask for the information on
it.. Number 17 is a letter from H2M concerning the Captain Kidd Water District.
As a recommended final alternative to, more or less, the lowest figure that they
could possibly go by. Copies have been sent to the owner of the Captain Kidd
Water District, as well as the civic association, and we will be meeting' and
discussing it.
MRS.'- CLEO TSOUNIS, President, Captain Kidd Association: When?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Probably next week if you'd like we could get Jim down.
Okay?
MRS. TSOUNIS: All right.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 18 is a very interesting letter from a resident
in Orient (Loraine S. Terry) concerning the master plan. Comments were, I
thought. a very well done letter.
19. The Suffolk Community Council, Inc. , .for our interest. I will work
with them on the Clearinghouse for Community Residences of any retarded homes
that are going to come into Southold.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: That's the end of the communications. Last meeting .
think we had only two communications, and Councilman Stutenburgh was upset,
so we dazzled him with 19 letters this 'week.'
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: That's the way they should be.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: We have Public Hearings set for 3: 30, so we'll move
on to Resolutions for a few minutes, item No. V.
V. RESOLUTIONS.
1. Moved by Councilman Schondebare, seconded by Councilman Townsend, .it was
RESOLVED that the Town Clerk be and she hereby is authorized and directed
to seek proposals for cleaning the 'uniforms of the Southold Town Police Depart-
. ment, for the period of May 1, .1984 through April 30, 1985.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions on it?
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: That's pursuant to the contract?
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SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Yes, I believe so, Jay.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Bob, is 'that pursuant to the PBA Contract?
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: Yes.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any other questions? (No response. )
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Schondebare, Councilman
Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 2 is another police officer matter, to allow
two police officers to attend a seminar.
2. Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes
Police Officers Beth Charters and Robert White to attend a "Seminar on
Family Violence and the Adolescent Sexual Offender" at Huntington, New
York, on Thursday, April -5, 1984, and the tuition cost of $40..00 per person
shall be a legal charge against the Town of Southold Police Contractual
Account B 3120. 4, and be it further
RESOLVED that the Town Board authorizes Officers Charters and. White to
travel to the aforementioned seminar in a Southold Town Police Car.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions? (No response.)
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Schondebare, Councilman
Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
3. Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded by Councilman Stoutenburgh, it was
RESOLVED that the application of Martin Sidor for renewal of his single
family house trailer permit, which .expires on March 23, 1984, for trailer
located at the south side of Oregon Road, Mattituck, New York, be and
hereby is granted for a six (6) month period.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions?
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: 1 have a question. We're constantly doing
these things. When do they ever run out? Every six months ad infinitum.
TOWN CLERK TERRY: We have to do them every six months.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Okay.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Schondebare, Councilman
Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
COUNCILMAN MURPHY: Number 4 is the 45 day extension for Nick Schick.
4. Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants Nicholas
Schick a 45 day extension .to April . 16, 1984 to return to the Town Board with
a demolition or reconstruction plan for the Orient Point Inn, pursuant to Chapter
90, Unsafe Buildings, Code of the Town of Southold, and that Mr. Schick's
consent, in writing, to the aforementioned decision be filed with the Town Clerk
as soon as possible.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: I'.d .like to discuss this.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Joe, go ahead.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Well, this is for the sake of the people here. This
is about the third--this 'is the end of about the third six month extension we
have given him--at least third six'month extension. It's unfortunate that a
building that has this much history, and is this old, has to be demolished, but
the Town Board, I don't feel, feels there's any alternative. I did get a call
from somebody from the New York Times who had been talking to somebody in
the Long Island Department of Antiquities and they were wondering why we were
tearing it down and I explained, basically, what we discussed. If, within 45
days, they come up with a concrete plan to save this building and restore it,
which I sincerely doubt, at that time we might deal with it, but it would have
to be a concrete plan and, unfortunately, it, looks as though there's no other
way to go, other than to tear it down, because the zone change that they were
looking for did not go through.
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SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any other questions on it? (No response.)
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Schondebare, Councilman
Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: At this time I'd like to recess the regular meeting to
hold our public hearings.
Moved by Supervisor Murphy, seconded by Councilman Stoutenburgh,, it was
RESOLVED that a recess be called at this time, 3: 30 P.M. , for the purpose
of holding the following public hearings:
3: 30 P.M. - Wetland Application: of Esther and Eric Muehlbauer and
Leah K. Indelman.
3: 32 P.M. - Wetland Application of ,Enconsultants, Inc. , on behalf of
Paul Kelly.
3:35 P.M. - Wetland Application of Enconsultants, Inc., on behalf of
Daniel Silverman and E. Cartnick.
3,:37 P.M. - Wetland Application of The Land Use Company, on behalf of
Joseph Duggan.
3:40 P.M. - Proposed Local Law entitled, "A Local- law in relation to the
mooring and anchoring of boats in West Harbor at Fishers Island."
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes:, Councilman Schondebare, Councilman
Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards,, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
Meeting reconvened at 4:35 P.M.
SUPERVISOR' MURPHY: I'd like to reopen the Regular Town Board Meeting and
move on to the 5th resolution, support for raising the drinking age.
5. Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded by Councilman Stoutenburgh; it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby goes on record
in support of proposed legislation - 5.1569 by New York State Senator Padavan,
et al, A.2681A by New York State Assemblyman Zimmer, et al, and A8609 by
New York State Assemblyman at the request of Governor Cuomo -- to raise the
drinking age in New York State from 19 to 21 years, and be it further
RESOLVED that the Town Board hereby urges New York State Senator Kenneth
_ P. LaValle and New York State Assemblyman Joseph Sawicki, Jr. to support the
enactment of the aforementioned legislation at this session of the Legislature..
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions?
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND' Well, I'll. comment. This is 'a difficult issue, because
know many of the establishments that serve liquor in the Town,- that offer
bonifide entertainment and music for people that are between--that are college
students, between 19 and 20, who do it, object to this, and I know that if
was sitting in the audience at .the age of 19 I'd probably have a gun loaded and
ready for what I'm about to vote for, but I think that just the one tragedy, every
now and then that's, caused by someone who's had too much to drink and. maybe
has a little less judgment than somebody who's over 21 might have, justifies the
passage of this particular resolution supporting the legislation. Once again, it's
another one of those difficult things and I have sympathy for the owners of these
establishments; they're going to. lose a lot of money, but that's the overall good
that's being served by this, 1 think.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Thank you. Any other comments?
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Yes. I have a problem with this ,one. I've
always subscribed to the belief that if you're old enough for your country and
your state to induct you into the service, get shot at and be killed, you're old
enough to have a beer, but on the other hand there's been enough statistics
to convince me that this age category. the. DWI deaths are too high, so I'll
vote for it.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any other. comments? (No response.)
Vote of the- Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Schondebare, Councilman
Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: We move on to Resolution No. 6.
6. Moved by Councilman Schondebare, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants
permission to The Seniors Club of Southold-Peconic, Inc. to hire one (1)
bus, at a cost of $150. 00 to the Town of Southold, to transport their group
to the C. W. Post Theatre to see Tosca on Saturday, March 17, 1984.
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SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions? (No response.)
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Schondebare, Councilman
Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 7 is the use of Town roads.
7. Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh, seconded by Supervisor Murphy, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants the
Mattituck High School Student Council permission to use Town roads on May
12, 1984, beginning at 9:30 A.M. , to conduct a "Run for Rodney" fund-raising
event on behalf of the Rodney Bates Leukemia Fund, and be it further
RESOLVED that the Town Board hereby authorizes and directs Chief H. Daniel
Winters to make the necessary arrangements to provide, assistance by the Southold
Town Police Department during the aforesaid 'Run for Rodney."
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: I'd like to comment on this. This. came about from a
letter from a Chris Finnigan who's the president of the Mattituck High School
Student Council 'requesting this. The school has done an awful lot to raise
money and the children in the school, for Rodney Bates, who is 'a Junior, and
who has a severe case of Leukemia, but hopefully through the prayers and the
money and all that has helped support him, from the whole community, this boy
is on his way to recovery, 1 don't know how complete, I hope it is, but they
ought to be commended. Any other questions on .it?
JUSTICE EDWARDS: Yes.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Yes, Ray?
JUSTICE EDWARDS: I'd just like to make a little statement. Before I retired
and moved back to Fishers Island I was very involved in forming a radio club
over in Croton-.New London area and putting up a two meter- ham repeater,
and over, I'd say, the past ten years, this radio club has been involved in
walk-a-thons, these marathons and so forth, to the tune of about I'd say a half
a dozen a year in the Groton area, and I'm surprised they don't have the ham
participation out here. I brought my ham equipment over here at times, from
the Island, and it's very difficult. I know there's hams out here, but they
just--it's very difficult to find anyone on the air to talk to, and this "Run for
Rodney", if this were in Groton-New London-Waterford-Mystic area, we would
have at least ten or fifteen amateur radio operators along this whole run.
Thank you, Frank.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Thank you, Ray.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Schondebare, Councilman
Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: ' Resolution' No. 8 came about from a letter 1 received
from a Terry Glover, and 1 believe--Terry, are you in the audience? (Yes)
This was a letter received asking for the support of the Town Board. Again
we're very proud of the young people in this Town. I'd like to read the
resolution and the proclamation, and we do have one here to present to you
girls, and I appreciate your coming to our meeting, and we tried to get to
Number 8 before the public .hearings, but I'm sure they were interesting to
you. Maybe a little boring,' but you could see at least the Town Board has
been working. We started at 9:00 o'clock this morning on this.
8. Moved by Supervisor Murphy, seconded by Councilman Schondebare,
WHEREAS, Girl Scouting has exemplified and enhanced those qualities of
womanhood most admired, and encouraged many young women to choose careers
which help involve family and. community, and
WHEREAS, the Girl Scouts of America have fostered the growth of character,
self-reliance, integrity, development of talent, and love of God and Country, and
WHEREAS, Girl Scout Cadette Troop #1593, Cutchogue, New York, is participating
in a "Help Young America Campaign," sponsored by Colgate Palmolive, and has
formulated an ambitious and. challenging program to change a wooded area into
a campground for youth groups in' their area, and
WHEREAS, the program being undertaken by Girl Scout Cadette Troop #1593 is
viewed upon by the Town Board ,of the Town of Southold as a highly commendable
project, a means of helping others and encouraging youth participation and
involvement in a most worthwhile endeavor, now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby proclaims the
week of April 8th through 14th, 1984 as HELP YOUNG AMERICA WEEK in the
Town of Southold.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Terry, would you like to come up with your girls?
Come on up, all of you girls. (Supervisor Murphy presented the Proclamation
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to the girls from Girl Scout Cadette Troop #1593, Cutchogue.) And if-we
could help you in your project, let usknow.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: I kind of think we ought to say something
about young girls and the leaders of young girls. Without the leaders, we
don't have young girl's groups. We appreciate that.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Thanks for your patience.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Schondebare, Councilman
Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards,- Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Okay, move on to Resolution No. 9, lead agency.
MRS. JEAN TIEDKE, Southold: Frank.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Yes?
MRS. TIEDKE: I'm sorry, I was at County Legislature all morning and half
the afternoon, and could I just make a short statement?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Yes, Jean, go ahead.
MRS. TIEDKE: I'm concerned about all these wetland applications. Who
inspects after the work has been done, or while the work is being done, to
make sure they are really following' the outline that is put to them to follow?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: The Building Inspectors.
MRS. TIEDKE: I know the DEC has. complained because they, are short-handed
and short-funded. They are no longer able to check on these things, which
they give the permit and then they can't check on them. The Corps of ,Engineers
is notorious for not checking on small jobs, and what's the expertise of the
Building Department?
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: The constraints of the. application.
TOWN CLERK TERRY: They're the inspection officers under the Wetland
Ordinance.
MRS. TIEDKE: 1 know that, but they know how a bulkhead should be built
or where it should be built?
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: They know the dimensions, yes.
TOWN CLERK TERRY: They get a copy of the permit 'and the application..
MRS. TIEDKE: Yes, but what else to they know? Do they know about what
happens to the bottom? Do they know whether the bottom has been disturbed
more than it should have been? All these other questions. Do they know whether
the natural grasses have been disturbed? Or replanted as they said they were
going do? Who follows up on that?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Paul, is there something in the Trustees to make a
final inspection?
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: In the Trustees the only thing they have is
that when a job is complete there's a tear-off sheet at the bottom which they
must pull off and vouch for what was given in the permit. In other words-- .
MRS. TIEDKE: Who is "they" ?
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: The Trustees, the Town Trustees. They
appoint one Trustee to go to that particular bulkhead or dock, or whatever
was put up, inspect it; see that the number is on it. There's a regular
check list that they have. They then tear off the sheet, the owner does,
signs his name to it; stating that he has complied with___the permit .,that was
given by the Trustees. That's only for the Trustees. It has nothing to
do with the Wetlands Permit. Now, whether or not the wetlands and the
other are almost the same and they could do both at the same time, but the
jurisdiction is in two different bodies as of now, and as far as I know the
only real check is this one that the Trustees get back because we have a,
statement that says that this was done, and if they find anything different
they can then hold the person responsible.
MRS. TIEDKE: Well, perhaps it should -be strengthened somehow. I'm not in
a position to say how.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: We'll look into it, Jean.
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COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: Stop and ask the Clerk of the Trustees and
she'll give you the form and you'll see what it is. -
MRS. TIEDKE: Yes, I think I have one. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Okay, move on to Number 9.
9. Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded by Councilman Schondebare, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold declares itself lead
agency in regard to the State Environmental Quality Review Act in the matter
of the application of James. Kreh and Peter Kreh for a Wetland Permit on certain'
property located at James Creek, off Camp Mineola Road, Mattituck, New York.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions? (No response.)
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Schondebare, Councilman
Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 10.
10. Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh, seconded by Councilman Schondebare, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby amends their '
Resolution No. 8 adopted on March 13, 1984, to read as follows: "RESOLVED
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants the request of
Costello Marine Contracting Corp. for the extension of the Howard Stabile Wet-
land Permit No. 106, which expires on May 10, 1984, for a period of 12 months
to May 10, 1985.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Question. We're amending?
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: We're extending.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: What did we do the last time? We're amending
our prior resolution Number 8 adopted March 13th. "
TOWN CLERK TERRY: We gave them until September 10th, and then there is
a letter that explains to you that the DEC permit expires June 30th, 1985, so
they, really wanted a year's 'extension.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: He didn't say that the last time around.
TOWN CLERK TERRY: No, they didn't say that in" their letter. They just
asked for an extension and they didn't say for how long.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Next time they'll say for how long. Okay,
thank you.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Okay? Any other questions on it? (No response. )
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Schondebare, Councilman
Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 11 is .to purchase our telephone system in
the Police 'Headquarters.
11. Moved by Councilman Schondebare, seconded by Councilman Stoutenburgh, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the
purchase of the existing Horizon Communications Telephone System at the Southold
Town Police Headquarters, at a total cost of $3,438. 68, which includes a" 90 day
warranty, and a comprehensive maintenance contract at $103.65 per month there-
after; said purchase price to be paid from Police Contractural Account B3120.4.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Chief Winters brought this in. He has an opportunity
to buy this from AT&T. In about 16 months we'll cover our whole purchase
price. The estimated life is from five to ten years without any problems at
all on it. There is a maintenance that will be included in this. That's not
being eliminated, but we will own the equipment. He has it in his budget and
we feel that we'll save, over the next couple years, a couple thousand dollars.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: And he already has it in his budget?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Yes. Any other questions? (No response.)
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Schondebare, Councilman
Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 12 is another lead agency.
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12. Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh,,, seconded. by -Councilman Townsend, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board declares itself lead agency in regard
to the State Environmental Quality Review Act in the matter of the application
of Stanely R. Gould, on behalf of Francis S. Perrone, M.D. , for a Wetland
Permit on certain property located on Gids Island, King Street, Orient, New York.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions? (No response.)
Vote of the, Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Schondebare, Councilman
Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards,. Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 13 is public hearings.
13. Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded by Councilman Schondebare, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby sets Tuesday,
April 10, 1984, Southold Town Hall, Main- Road, Southold, New York, as date
and place for public hearings on the following applications for Wetland Permits:
3:00 P.M. - In the matter of the application of Helen B. Case, for a permit
under the provisions of the Wetland Ordinance of the Town of Southold to construct
bulkhead consisting of broken .concrete at West Creek, off of the south side of
New Suffolk Avenue, Cutchogue, New York.
3:02 P.M. - In the matter of the application of Joseph Fischetti, for a permit
under the provisions of the Wetland Ordinance of the Town of Southold to install
upland -bulkhead, return, fixed dock, ramp and three float docks at the north
side of Arshamomaque Pond, on the south side of Middle Road, Southold, New York.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions? (No response.)
Vote of the Town Board: - Ayes: Councilman Schondebare, Councilman
Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly' ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 14 is 'a transfer.
14. Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Councilman Schondebare, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes
the following transfer within the General Fund Part Town Account B3620. 4,
Building Inspector, Contractual - $198. 00, into B3620.2, -Building Inspecgtor,
Equipment. (To provide budgeted moneys for expenditure for an IBM typewriter.)
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions? (No response.)
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Schondebare, Councilman
Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 15,' going to bid for road oil.
15. Moved by Councilman Schondebare, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes
the Town Clerk to advertise-for bids for the following items for the Highway
Department: Purchase and application of 150,000 gallons, more or less as may
be needed, of Grades RC-2 and .MC-2 Asphalt Road Materials.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions? (No response.)
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Schondebare, Councilman
Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution- was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 16 is lead agency again:
16. Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh, .seconded by Justice Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board declares itself lead agency in regard
to the State Environmental Quality Review Act in the matter of the application
of Matt-A-Mar Marina for a Wetland Permit on certain property located at
Mattituck Creek, off of the west side of Wickham Avenue, Mattituck, New York.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions? (No response.)
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Schondebare,' Councilman
Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 17 is to amend a resolution of the last meeting.
17. Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded by Councilman Schondebare, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby amends their
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Resolution No. 29, adopted on March 13, 1984, to read as follows: "RESOLVED
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the advance of
$778 00 (was $578.00) from the General Fund Whole Town Account to Community
Development Year X, Crime, alcohol and Drug Abuse Program Budget, for the
Southold High School Human Understanding and Growth Seminars (HUGS) -
3-day educational workshop--17 (was 15) students, to be held at St. Gabriels
Retreat House, Shelter Island.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: Is this available to all schools, or what? How
does this work? Can somebody tell me on this? Is this available to all schools?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Yes, it was started down in Mattituck, and it's a program
that Jim' Christie; a Guidance Counselor in Mattituck, had, and he's now bringing
it to Southold.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH.: Okay, that's what I wanted to know, because I
remember in':the Police Report--.(the JAP Program) that they had it in there and
I just wanted to make sure it's going to all of them.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Yes."
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: That's .the idea of it?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Right. *And it's worked very well.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: Yes, it's a good program.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: .Any other questions on it? (No response.)
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Schondebare, Councilman -
Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 18 I'll make.
18. Moved by Supervisor Murphy, seconded by Councilman Stoutenburgh,
WHEREAS, fishing is a major occupation on Eastern Long Island, and in
particular the Town of Southold, and
WHEREAS, the commercial fishing boats utilize the Shinnecock Inlet in
following the natural migration of fish, and
WHEREAS, the Southold Town Board recognizes the integral part that
the fishing industry plays in our economy, now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby goes on
record supporting the efforts of the Town of Southampton to have the
Shinnecock Inlet dredged by the Department of the Army, Corps of Engineers.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any other questions? This was brought about--it's
quite a serious shoaling effort there, brought to our attention by Councilman
Townsend and the Supervisor of the Town of Southampton.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Oh, yes.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: I was wondering how it got here.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: ;Thank you, Frank.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Schondebare, Councilman
Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 19 is the Landmark Preservation Commission.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: Do we have the right people on here? William
Peters, Ralph 0. Williams.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: And Joy Bear.
TOWN CLERK TERRY: Where did William Peters come from? 1 didn't get a
resume.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: We did. Mr. Stoutenburgh and I were the
committee who interviewed all the people for the Landmark Preservation.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: What happened is; there was only one and
then someone else got out, and that let him go in.
TOWN CLERK TERRY: Okay, I just want to be sure his resume is in the file.
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COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Let's run this--we have not discussed this yet.
don't know who these are.
TOWN CLERK TERRY: Joy Bear is presently a member.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: I'm all for Joy Bear. I'm just not sure 1 want to
vote on this now.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY : Do you want to hold up on this? Do you want to appoint
Joy Bear now?
TOWN CLERK TERRY: This committee can't keep moving along if they don't have
people on it.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: I know, but I haven't seen any of the--
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Would you like to appoint Joy Bear now and hold off on
the others?
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Paul and I interviewed these people:
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Let's do it now. What's the recommendation. 1'd
just like to discuss it, that's all.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: I recommend this Ralph. Williams, because if
you know the old house out in'Orient, what is 'it, the Tavern? He's the
one that's rehabilitating that and if you looked at his background, he belongs
to all the historical societies, I think, on Long Island.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: I saw his resume, yes.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: On his resume he has a pedigree a mile long.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: Absolutely. And Bill Peters was the person
who worked to Sperry-Gyroscope for many years, and is 'head of the Cutchogue
Library, very interested in' local affairs and wants to give his time to the
community, and we felt he was a very strong candidate.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: And we interviewed him.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: And we interviewed him and he was--
COUNCILIVIAN TOWNSEND: What about Mr. Fusaro who appeared on here now?
Apparently he must have sent a resume in, because--
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Did' you interview him? Jay?
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: We looked through the resumes and then inter-
viewed two people. We decided not to interview him. Isn't that the one from
Center Moriches? We decided not to interview him.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: This is the one that was from away.--I think
he's from outside of the Town.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Were there any other applications, other than Mr.
Peters and Mr. Williams?
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: No.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: No other applications?
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: No. We had thought that Mr.--we had interviewed
Bill Peters for the Solar Energy Commission, if you remember, and we found the
architect might be more appropriate in that position, and so we felt his credentials
were so strong, Peters, that we held on to him for---
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: For the Landmark Preservation Commission.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: Right. Do you want to take our recommendations?
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Yes.
19. Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh, seconded by Councilman Schondebare, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board, of the Town of Southold hereby appoints the
following individuals to the Southold Town Landmark Preservation Commission,
effective April 5, 1984, for a two (2) year term to expire on April .5, 1986:
Joy Bear, Ralph 0. Williams, and William Peters.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions?
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COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: The only thing is, has the Commission itself been
contacted about this, or talked to these people, or do they know?
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: They know that they put an application in?
They don't know that we have appointed them.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Did you get a recommendation from them or talk
to the Commission., the balance?
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: The Landmark Preservation Commission?
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Yes.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Two people resigned and there is only one person
left.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: No, no, there's Lou Black and--well, okay, go ahead,
Know Mr. Williams.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any other questions on this? (No response.) I would
also like to say we will send a letter of appreciation to the two people who did
resign.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Please do, because I will point out that Ken Godfrey,
who is really the architect of the thing, and they have been working very had,
and he's done an awful lot of work. I'm sorry he feels he can't go on, but he
is very ill, but he's done an awful lot of work.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY.: Okay, any other questions? (No response.)
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Schondebare, Councilman
Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution- was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 20 is 'to fix the piano.
20. Moved by Justice Edwards,- seconded by Councilman Schondebare, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the
propsal of Steve Geoghegan, Piano Tuner-Technician, for the repair and
tuning of the Baldwin Acrosonic piano located at the Senior/Youth Center,
Peconic, at a total cost of $345.00 (with a 60 day guarantee), and authorizes
Mr. Geoghegan to proceed with the work at the earliest possible date.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Question.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: On the question.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Question. That's a fairly steep price for just
a tuning.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: No, no, look on the back.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: If you want, I'll explain it.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: . Okay, I see it.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: This piano would, cost--a used one like this would cost
us about $1,000..00. A new one would cost about $2,500..00, and he feels it's
worth fixing.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: The only thing I thought, is there any kind
of guarantee with this work that he does. When you use epoxy glue, it doesn't
always work.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: No, I don't think so, Paul.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: I mean, there should be a 60 day guarantee,
or something like that, I would think.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: It's a one-sided agreement.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Well, we either make the decision to buy a new one
or to fix it. He's probably--
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: He's pretty reliable, I understand. He came recommended
by the Senior Citizen Clubs to do the repairs.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: And actually the bridge is not--he could replace the
bridge if he has to. I'll go along with it, based on what he's going to do.
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SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Okay, _any other questions?
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Schondebare, Councilman
Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: Would anybody mind if I called this 'person up
and asked him if we could get any kind of a guarantee with this?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Sure.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: No, very good idea.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Okay, Number 21.
21. Moved by Supervisor Murphy, seconded by Councilman Stoutenburgh, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby amends their
Resolution adopted on March 23, 1984, appointing James Rodney Douglass to
the position of Sanitation Supervisor, effective April 1, 1984, to read:
"Effective March 27, 1984."
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions? (No response.)
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Schondebare, Councilman
Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 22.
22. Moved by Supervisor Murphy, seconded by Councilman Schondebare, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints
Mary Troyan as a part-time Custodial Worker, not to exceed 20 hours .per
week, at a salary of $3.50 per hour; and to appoint Jean Stepnoski as a
part-time Custodial Worker, not to exceed 20 hours per week, at a salary
of $4. 50 per hour; to work at the Southold Town Police Headquarters, and/or.
other assignments as may be designated by the' Supervisor.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions? (No response.) -
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Schondebare, Councilman
Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards,. Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: If nobody has any objections, we'll do three of the
public hearings that we had today. The first one is 'on the application of
Esther and Eric Muehlbauer and Leah K. Indelman. It's a Negative Declaration.
23. Moved by Supervisor Murphy,. seconded by Councilman Schondebare, it was
RESOLVED that pursuant to Article:.�8 ::of. the Environmental Conservation
Law State Environmental Quality Review and 6NYCRR Part 617, Section
617. 10 and Chapter 44 of the Code of the Town of Southold, notice is
hereby given that the Southold Town Board, as lead agency for the action
described below, has determined that the project, which is unlisted, will
not have _a significant effect on the environment.
Description of Action: Application of Esther and Eric Muehlbauer and Leah K.
Indelman for a permit under, the provisions of the Wetland Ordinance of the
Town of Southold to construct a catwalk -and floating dock at the south side
of Fleetwood Road, on East Creek, Cutchogue, New York.
The project has been determined not to have a significant effect on .
the environment for the following reasons:
An environmental assessment has been submitted which indicated that
no significant adverse effect to the environment are likely to occur should
the project be implemented as planned.
Because there has been no response in the allotted time from the New
York State Department of Environmental Conservation and::the Southold; Town
Bu:ildht g rD,ep4rtm.0n,t, iRr•is,,,as;sumo_d 10at it,her qq_are ,no objections nor comments
from those agencies.
Because there has been a response from the Board of Southold Town '
Trustees and the Southold Town Conservation Advisory Council indicating
that this project would not have a significant effect on the environment.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions? (No response.)
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Schondebare, Councilman
Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number -24.
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24. Moved by Supervisor Murphy, seconded by Councilman Stoutenburgh,
WHEREAS, Esther and Eric Muehlbauer and Leah .K. Indelman applied-to the
Southold Town Board for a permit under the provisions of the Wetland Ordinance
of the Town of Southold, application dated January 6, 1984, and
WHEREAS, said application was referred to the Southold Town Trustees and
Southold Town Conservation Advisory Council for their findings and recommenda-
tions, and
WHEREAS, a public hearing was held by the Town Board with respect to said
application on the 27th day of March, 1984, at which time all interested persons
were given an opportunity to be heard, now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED that Esther and Eric Muehlbauer .and Leah K. Indelman be granted -
permission under the provisions of the Wetland Ordinance of the Town o
Southold to construct a catwalk and floating dock at; the south side of Fleetwood
Road, on East Creek, Cutchogue, New York, as per application. This permit
shall expire on March 27, 1985 if 'work has not commenced by said'date; there
shall be two inspections required, and the Town Clerk shall be notified when
the project is. completed.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions? (No response.)
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Schondebare, Councilman
Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 25 is a Negative Declaration on the application
of Joseph Duggan.
25. Moved by Supervisor Murphy; seconded by Councilman Schondebare, it 'was
RESOLVED that pursuant to Article 3 of the Environmental Conservation
.Law State Environmental Quality Review and 6NYCRR Part 617, Section
617. 10 and Chapter 44 of the Code of the Town of Southold, notice is
hereby given that the Southold Town Board, as lead agency for the action
described below, has determined that the project, which is unlisted, will
not have a 'significant effect on -the environment.
Description of Action: Application of The Land Use Company, on behalf of
Joseph Duggan, for a Wetland Permit to construct timber bulkhead and dredge
on the east side of Dawn Lagoon, on Snug Harbor, Greenport, New York.
The project has been determined not to have a significant effect on the
environment for the following reasons:
An environmental Assessment has been submitted which indicated that no
significant adverse effect to the environment are likely to occur should the
project be implemented as planned.
Because there has been a response from the Board of Southold Town
Trustee and Southold Town Conservation Advisory Council indicating that
this project would not have a significant effect on the environment.
Because there has been .no response in the allotted time from the New
York State Department of Environmental Conservation and the Southold Town
Building Department, it is assumed that there are no objections nor comments
from those agencies.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions? (No response.)
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Schondebare, Councilman
Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 26.
26. Moved by Supervisor Murphy, seconded by Councilman Stoutenburgh,
WHEREAS, The Land Use Company, on behalf of Joseph Duggan, applied to
the Southold Town Board for a permit under the provisions of the Wetland
Ordinance of the Town of Southold, :application dated September 7, 1983, and
WHEREAS, said application was referred to the Southold Town Trustees and
Southold Town Conservation Advisory Council for their 'findings and recommenda-
tions, and
WHEREAS, a public hearing was held by the Town Board with respect to said
application on the 27th day of March, 1984, at which time all interested persons
were given an opportunity to be heard, now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED that The Land Use Company, on behalf of Joseph Duggan, be granted-
permission under the provisions of the Wetland Ordinance of the Town of Southold
to construct timber bulkhead, boat ramp, floating dock, and dredged on the east
side of Dawn Lagoon, on Snug Harbor Road, Greenport, New York, all in accord-
ance with the amended plan as filed with the New York State Department of
Environmental Conservation and made a part of this Southold Town Permit. This
permit shall expire on March 27, 1985 if work has not commenced by said date;
there shall be two inspections required; and the-Town Clerk shall be notified
when the project is completed.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions? (No response. )
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Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman`` Schondebare, Councilman
Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 27 is the Local Law on moorings on Fishers Island.
27. Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded by Councilman Schondebare,
WHEREAS, a proposed Local Laaw No. 3 1984 was introduced at a meeting of
this Board held on the 29th day of February, .1984, and
WHEREAS, a public hearing was -held thereon by the Board on the 27th day of
March, 1984, at which time all ;interested persons were given an opportunity to
be heard thereon, now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED that Local Law No-. 3 - 1984 be enacted as follows:
LOCAL LAW NO. 3 - 1984
A LOCAL LAW IN RELATION TO THE MOORING AND ANCHORING
OF. BOATS I-N WEST HARBOR AT FISHERS ISLAND
BE IT ENACTED by the town board of the Town of Southold as follows:
(additions indicated by underline; deletions by [brackets]) .
I . Sections 32-39A and 32-39B, as added by local law No. 5 of the year
1983, are renumbered Sections 32-39. 1 and 32-39. 2, respectively.
11. Section 32-39. 2, as renumbered, is hereby amended to read as follows:
Section 32-39. 2 Anchoring and mooring in West Harbor.
[11L. All boats temporarily anchored in West Harbor at Fishers
Island shall anchor north of Goose Island.
[ 21 B. Permanent moorings in West Harbor at Fishers Island.
( 1) All permanent moorings shall . be located south of Buoy
[N"10"] number 8.:
( 2) No permanent mooring shall be placed unless
authorized. by a permit duly issued by a Bay Constable
or Deputy or Assistant Bay Constable.
(3) The following fees shall be paid for the issuance of, a
mooring permit, to wit:
Size of Boat Permit Fee
Up to-25 feet $10.00
26 feet to 35 feet 25.00
f Over- 35 feet 50.00
All Nonresidents 50.00
0) All mooring permits shall expire on December 31st. of
the year of issuance.
The location of each mooring shall be assigned by the
Fishers Island Harbor Master, who shall be appointed
by the town board.
All mooring buoys shall be assigned a number which
shall - be affixed to the buoy by the permittee in
numbers at least five inches in height.
III. This local law shall take effect upon its filing with the Secretary of
State.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Schondebare, Councilman.
_13-toutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: That's the end of the prepared. and amended Town
Board agenda. Is there any Councilman would like to make any comments?
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: Yes, I would Like to make a comment that
before we act on this Silverman application, that we all go down and visit
this site.. I think it's a most important one, and as you can see, very
concerned project, and unless you see it, you can't believe it, I think, and
so you should go down and see this. I think it's something everyone should
take upon themself. I'd be glad to drive down there and show you where it
is nt .an%f +imp
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SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Okay, anyone in the audience like to comment? Ruth?
MRS. RUTH OLIVA, President, North Fork Environmental Council: I just wanted
to say that 1 agreed with Councilman Townsend this morning, wholeheartedly.
do not feel that Mr. Gould should have been allowed to speak before the Town
Board when he had an application in for a wetlands hearing. I just don't think
it's right. I mean, if you're going to hear him speak, then somebody from the.
other side should be allowed to come before the Board also. That is the purpose
of having the public hearings. It's at'the time of the public hearings, not before.
really object to it. And while,we're handing out statements regarding the project,
did speak to Chuck Hamilton yesterday afternoon, late, and he informed me that
there will' be no permits given for Gids Island because that piece of land is proposed
for State acquisition. Period.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Thank you, we just did hear from other people.
MRS. OLIVA: You did. He got his in, I got mine.
MR. BARTH: I was going to say almost exactly the same thing. It seems to me
that in bending over backwards to hear all the people, and being very polite,
you're opening up a can of worms, because what you're going to do is you're
going to have a hearing before a hearing. If you have a hearing scheduled, .why
give someone any opportunity to state his. case and the opposition will want to
state their 'case and before you know it you'll be having a hearing at a work
session and I don't think that that's .right.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: I'd .like to start right now and agree with you,
think. And I think maybe it should be the policy of the Board from now on
not to do this.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: I believe it was the policy of the Board.
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: . Always has been.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: Always was, and therefore we were in error.
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: Well, I've expressed it so many times, practically
once a month.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: Well, you weren't here. That's why we like
to have you here at these Work Sessions.
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: --for the last five years. Somebody must have
heard it.
MR. STUART HARVEY, Southold: I think it's time you made your mind up on
something. That's bulkheads. We get into this--I guess for four years I've
been listening to it.' They always come up with a .deal they. can't go backwards,
so we lose a foot and a half. Okay, let's start charging them, say $50. 00 a
square foot for every foot they take away and put it on the assessments.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: Beautiful idea.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: That's a good idea.
MR. HARVEY: They pay the cash down, whatever it is, and every other year
they're going to get hit with a bigger assessment.
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: I think there's one issue about this 'that you're
going to have to consider. You're not conveying any land. You are giving a
permit to use public lands to put up a structure, just as you permit catwalks
over public lands. You are just giving a permit. You're not conveying any
land.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: In other words, we're giving a permit to fill on top .
of our land. -
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: Yes.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: In other words, is that a lien on their property, then,
if they sell they have to--I mean, what kind of--if it's not their land, and yet
they're deeding the right to the use of it.
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: This is really nothing new, it's been going on for
two hundred years. The federal government does it, the State of New York
does it, the County does it,' the Towns do it. You're not conveying title to
land. You're permitting the upland owner to make use of the public land in
front of him. That's .ususally a reparian right that he already had. It's a
commonlaw right.
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COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: But you're taking away the right of the public
to use that.
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: That you are to some extent. To a minor extent
you've deprived the public 'of eighteen inches of land, but you haven't conveyed
title to it, you still own it.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: So you're point is still well taken. We can maybe work
out_a system of charges for dominating that land, or for using that land.
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: What do you do with the docks?
MR. HARVEY: Charge them.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: You charge them so much a square foot.
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: The Trustees do?
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: Sure theys do.
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: For the square footage of underwater land that
they use for the dock?
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: Just for the dock.
MR. HARVEY: Another thing I believe--at least I know it happens over on the
South Shore; the land was always clear--the water rather, always came to high
water. We couldn't put anything between high water and the water. That would
be a dock or anything else, because that was always for public use. Yet that's
happening now, that people-
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: Basically what we're doing now, is we give
a permit for a dock, it has to be so that people walking along the beach have
a way of getting over it.' -In other words, if it obstructs the persons walking
there should be a ladder on each side of it so the person can walk up and over
the dock. So we don't inhibit someone from using it.
MR. HARVEY: We actually have that in force?
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: That's what should be on every permit that
has that kind of a situation, yes.
MR. HARVEY: Okay. And the last one would be, I think, Counselor, you
eighteen is old enough to fight and twenty-one about the drinkining. You've
got to fight, you have no problems', but drinking--at eighteen years, I mean,
shoved in the Army, it's not your choice. Just a. side item '.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any other comments? Jim?
MR. JAMES McMAHON, Community Development Administrator: Just a question,
Frank, with Mary Troyan and Mrs. Stepnoski. Did I understand that Mary
Troyan was 10 hours a week?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Yes.
MR. McMAHON: And Mrs. Stepnoski also?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Ten hours.
MR. McMAHON: Because Mrs. Stepnoski, as it stands now, is only working two
days- a week and is Mary going to cover the other five days?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY; You think you need more than ten hours?
MR. McMAHON: I orginally had put in` there, I think, that the-
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: If you want, we could amend it. I would try to-- .
TOWN CLERK TERRY: IN part-time up to 10 hours. So really, you could use .
her as little, or up to 10 hours.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: You better -amend the resolution.
MR. McMAHON: She's going to be there five days.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Two hours a day. I don't think Danny has the work,
and if she came down here, also, to do some cleaning.
MR. McMAHON: Then you would almost need her 15 hours.
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SUPERVISOR MURPHY: You want to make it three hours a day?
MR. McMAHON: Just because I think--that it may take her a little bit longer
to do the job.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Why don't we just limit the hours? What's part-time,
Bob, 20 hours?
TOWN CLERK TERRY: Twenty hours is part-time.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH:• No more than twenty?
TOWN CLERK TERRY: Not to exceed 20 hours, then. On both of them?.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Yes.
28. Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Councilman Schondebare, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby amends their
Resolution No. 22, adopted this date, March 27, 1984, appointing two Custodial -
workers, to read: "Not to exceed 20 hours per week."
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Schondebare, Councilman
Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any other. comments? (No response.) I did mention
before that Assemblyman Sawicki called me yesterday and told me that we are
being included in that 2 o real estate tax bill and there more than likely will
be a public hearing held by the Assemblyman, in Southold Town, in the near
future, on this, as well as one on the South Shore.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Can we get a copy of this bill, Frank?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY.: Yes. You have one copy now.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: I have one on Southampton. .We're included
in that one?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: The bill that is being submitted, that it has to be in,
believe, by today, is in. We'll .get a copy of the actual bill.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: We're not part of East Hampton or Southampton, we
have our' own: bill:
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Yes.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Oh, we'll have our own bill. Okay.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Okay, if there is nothing further, 1 move to adjourn.
Moved by Supervisor Murphy, seconded by Councilman Townsend, it was
RESOLVED that this. Town Board meeting be adjourned at 5: 07 P.M.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Schondebare, Councilman
Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
WORK SESSION
5: 10 P.M. - The Board met with Executive Administrator Victor Lessard relative
to fencing, trailers and trailer sites at the Eastern Long Island Kampgrounds,
Route 48, Greenport. Mr. Lessard will meet with Mr. Wilton, owner of the
Kampgrounds, to discuss his compliance with the resolution of the Town Board
some years ago pertaining to this tamp' --The Board also discussed the creation
%f the Ordinance Inspector position and the possible appointment of Building
r' Inspector Curtis Horton to that position.
5: 30 P.M. - Work Session adjourned. -
i0 _udith 1 . Terry
Southold Town Clerk