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APPEALS BOARD
MEMBERS
GERARD P. GOEHRINGER, CHAIRMAN
CHARLES GRIGONIS, JR.
SERGE DOYEN, JR.
ROBERT J. DOUGLASS M I N U T E S
JOSEPH H. SAWICKI — — — — — — —
REGULAR MEETING
AUGUST 31, 1983
A Regular Meeting of the Southold Town Board of. Appeals was
held on Wednesday, -August 31, . 1983 at 7 :30 o' clock p.m. at the
Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold., New York.
Present were: Gerard P. Goehringer, Chairman; Charles
Grigonis; Serge Doyen and Robert J. Douglass. (Absent was
Joseph H. Sawicki. ) Also .present was .Victor. Lessa.r.d., Adminis-
trator, Building Department and approximately 25 persons in the
audience.
The Chairman called the meeting to .order at 7:30 p.m. and
proceeded with the first public hearing.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 3164 . Application of JOHN J.
CLAVIN, Madeline Avenue, Fishers Island, NY for a Variance to
the-Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Sections 100-31 and 100-32
for permission to locate accessory building in an area other
than the required rear yard, at premises known as Lot #2, Minor
Subdivision#231, Fishers Island Utility Co. , and more particu-
larly known as County Tax Map Parcel No. 1000-006-08-3. 3.
The Chairman opened the hearing at 7:35 o' clock p.m. and
read the legal notice of hearing in its entirety and the sub-
ject application.
MR. .CHAIRMAN : We have a copy of a survey with a pencilled-in
area of a garage approximately 30 ' from the main house. The pro-
posed garage is 22' . by 30' . I also have a copy of the Suffolk
County Tax Map indicating this property and the surrounding
properties in the immediate area. The board did view the site
on the annual trip to Fishers Island. Is there anybody wishing
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to speak-in-behalf of this application? (No one) Is there any-
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one wishing to speak against the application? (No one..) I will
offer a resolution on this application approving same, providing
that the garage be used only for storage purposes.
MEMBERS DOYEN AND GRIGONIS seconded. the motion.
The following findings and determination were made:
By this appeal, appellant seeks permission to construct a
22' by 30 ' accessory garage/storage building approximately 30 '
westerly from the .southwest corner of the existing one-family
.df.welling. The premises in question contains an area of 63, 750
square feet and is zoned ".A-Residential and Agricultural. "
The subject parcel is identified as Lot #2 of Minor Subdivision
of "Fishers Island Utility Co. , Inc. , Map #231 as revised
10/13/81. Due to the unique topography of the land, the board
agrees with the reasoning of the applicant.
In considering this appeal, .the board determines: (1) that
the variance request is not substantial; (2) that no . substan-
tial detriment to adjoining properties will be created; (3)
that the difficulty . cannot be obviated by a method feasible to
appellant other than a variance; (4) that no adverse effects,
will be produced on available governmental facilities of any
increased population; (5) that the relief requested will be in
harmony with and promote the general purposes of zoning; and
(6) that the interests of justice will be served by, allowing the
variance, as indicated below.
On motion by Mr. Goehringer, seconded by Messrs. Doyen and
Grigonis, it was
RESOLVED, that Appeal No. 3164, application -by JOHN J.
CLAVIN for permission to construct a 22 ' by 30' accessory garage
building in the front/side yard -area, BE AND HEREBY IS APPROVED
PROVIDED THAT SAME BE USED ONLY FOR STORAGE PURPOSES (no living
area) . j
Location of Property: Subdivision Map .#231, Lot #2; County
Tax Map Parcel No.. 1000-006-008-3.3 .
Vote of the Board: . Ayes: Messrs. Goehringer, Doyen, Grigonis
and Douglass. (Member Sawicki was absent. ) This resolution was
unanimously adopted.
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PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 3153. Application of ELIZABETH
SCHWIEGER and MARGARET MURRAY, Lighthouse Road, .Southold, NY for
a Variance to the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section 100-31,
Bulk Schedule for approval of three proposed lots, each having
insufficient area, width and/or depth, and/or insufficient setbacks
of existing buildings due to location of lot lines, located at the
east side of Lighthouse Road,, Southold; County Tax Map Parcels No.
1000-51-02-001 and 002.
The Chairman. opened the hearing at 7 : 40 o'clock p.m. and
read the legal notice of hearing in .its entirety and the- sub-
ject application.
MR. CHAIRMAN: We have a copy of a survey prepared by Roderick
VanTuyl, P.C. amended June 29, 1983 indicating a'-".house which is on
the 1. 50 acre parcel, which is Lot #1; Lot #2, which contains the
barn of 1. 55 acres, plus or minus; and Lot #3, which .contains
another structure of 1. 69 plus or minus acres.. We have a copy of
the Suffolk County Tax Map indicating this property and the
properties in the area. Would anybody like to be heard in behalf
of this application? Anybody like to speak against the application?
Any questions from any board members? Gentlemen, I had specific
questions I wanted to ask Mrs. Schwieger and unfortunately she has
not come to the hearing. 'S'uggdstomaybe we recess this until she--
SECRETARY : Here she is now. That' s Mrs. Schwieger.
MR. CHAIRMAN : Mrs. Schwieger, you're on.
MRS. SCHWIEGER: Oh, I was waiting in the wrong place.
MR. CHAIRMAN: I 'm sorry. Is there anything you would like to
say concerning your application?
MRS. SCHWIEGER: I don' t think so. I think it is clear--I mean,
I don't think there' s anything additional unless you want to ask
something.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Concerning Lot #3, 1. 69 acres--what kind of
structure is on Lot 43?
MRS. SCHWIEGER: I'm not sure if that' s the barn or--
MR. CHAIRMAN: Well, the house is on Lot #1.. The other house
we were unable to get a picture of--it was .getting kind of dark when
we were over there last week. Do. you have a picture of the house on
Lot #3?
MRS. SCHWIEGER: I 'm trying to think if that' s the small house--
MR. CHAIRMAN: Yes, that' s the small house.
MRS. SCHWIEGER: I did not, but I could get it for you.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Ok, would you furnish the board with a picture
of that particular house. You have given us beautiful pictures of
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MR. CHAIRMAN continued:
the barn. The pictures we had taken when we were over there on
inspections did not come out and I want a picture. of that particular
house for the file if that' s all right with .you.
MRS. SCHWIEGER: Of course. Could I go home and get it and
bring it back tonight?
MR. CHAIRMAN: I don' t think it really necessitates that.
MR. CHAIRMAN: I doubt seriously we would make any decisions on
it tonight anyway. Oki so bearing that in mind--
MRS. SCHWIEGER: It's a salt box.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Right. Whatever we took did not come out.and
we would. appreciate a picture for the file. Our secretary will
probably not be in for the rest of the week, so if you do bring it
in, put it in an envelope and leave your name on it and leave it on
the desk in the office.
MRS. SCHWIEGER: Fine.
MR. CHAIRMAN: I ' ll ask again--
MRS. SCHWIEGER: Excuse me, but would it be of any help if I
went home and brought it back tonight?
MR. CHAIRMAN: No, we probably wouldn' t make a decision tonight
anyway. We have a rather lengthy agenda. Thank you ,„anyway for the
offer. Would anybody else like to be heard in behalf, of this hear-
ing either pro or con? Any questions from board members? (None)
Hearing no further questions, I 'll make a motion closing the hearing
and reserving decision until later.
MEMBER DOYEN: Second.
On motion by Mr. Goehringer, seconded by Mr. Doyen, it was
RESOLVED, to close the hearing. and _ reserve decision--'..in the matter
of Appeal No. 3153,. application of ELIZABETH SCHWIEGER AND MARGARET
MURRAY.until later.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Goehringer, Doyen, Grigonis,
and Douglass. (Member Sawicki was absent. ) This resolution was
unanimously adopted.
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Southold Town Board c_ Appeals -5- August 31, 83, Regular Meeting
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 3155. Application of RICHARD REUNIS,
1500 Beebe Drive, Cutchogue, NY for a Variance to the Zoning Ordinance,
Article III, Section 100-30 (C) for permission to locate tennis court
with 10 ' high fence accessory to the principal structure (dwelling)
a:t,.premises known as 1500 Beebe Drive,. Cutchogue, NY; County Tax Map
Parcel No. 1000-103-03-004.
The Chairman opened the hearing at 7 :48 o'clock p.m. and read
the legal notice of hearing. in its entirety and appeal application.
MR. CHAIRMAN: We have a copy of a'.,-.sketch of a survey indicating
the lot of 37, 040 sq. ft. and a tennis court in the rearyard in back
of the main structure, main dwelling, of 60 ' by --it doesn' t give me
the dimension. I have a copy of the Suffolk County Tax Map indicating
this property and the surrounding properties in the area. Would some-
body like to be heard in behalf of this application?
MR. REUNIS: May I speak in my behalf, Mr. Reunis myself?
MR. CHAIRMAN Certainly.
MR. REUNIS: Ok. We've been living here 11 years at that address,
and---.for the last seven really playing tennis on that court. Being in
business seven days a week, and if I have a little bit of entertainment
it' s almost my life. 'It-,'_s really the only entertainment I have. It' s
nothing that. would upset the neighborhood--I don't make .any noise. My
neighbors are here themselves tonight and can vouch for it.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you know the dimensions? 60 by what?
MR. REUNIS : Sixty by 100.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Sixty by 100 feet. Thank you, Sir.
JANIS SCODY: Can I speak. I 'm one of the neighbors, and he
doesn't make any racket. And he doesn' t have any parties, and he
doesn' t have any cars parked on the street, so. I just want to verify
what. he is saying.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Thank you. Is there anybody else that would like
to speak in behalf of the application? Anybody like to speak against
the application? Questions from board members? The only thing that
rather concerns me, Mr. . Reunis, is the fact that we have dealt with
tennis courts being structures because they have fences and that was
the reason why you had to come in. I do not know the square footage
of your main house along with the tennis court will exceed the 200
lot coverage in Southold Town. Now if it does exceed the 20% , we may
make a condition and you may have to come back to the Zoning Board of
Appeals for . an. appeal of the excessive lot coverage.
MR. REUNIS: Does it mean the .total length of the fence?
MR. CHAIRMAN: Everything that is in the enclosure.
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(Appeal No. 3155 - RICHARD REUNIS, continued: )
MR. REUNIS: It' s just as a back ground.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Yes, I noticed that. You' re only going 15 feet
or something of that nature. All right, we' ll see what the Building
Inspector says about that, ok?
MR. REUNIS : I thought I could get away with .nets, but the nets
just rot away and the balls .go right through it.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Thank you. Is there anybody else to speak on this?
Hearing no further questions, I ' ll make a motion closing the hearing
and reserving decision until later.
MEMBER GRIGONIS: Second.
Oh�-.motion...by Mr. Goehringer, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it was
RESOLVED, to close the hearing and reserve decision in the matter
of Appeal No. 3155, application of RICHARD REUNIS, until later.
Vote of the Board: Ayes : Messrs. Goehringer, Doyen, Grigonis,
and Douglass. (Member Sawicki was absent. ) This resolution was
unanimously adopted.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 3156. Application of WILLIAM AND
LINDA ZINGARO, P.O. Box 306, Cutchogue, NY for a Variance to the
Zoning Ordinance, Article XI, . Sections 100-119 (A & B) for permission
to retain. hedge height over four feet high along the frontyard along
Pequash Avenue (30100 Main Road) , Cutchogue, NY; County Tax Map
Parcel No. 1000-102-03-007.
The Chairman opened the hearing at 7: 54 o' clock p.m. and read
the legal notice of hearing in its entirety and appeal application.
MR. CHAIRMAN: We have. a copy of a survey dated May 18, 1982
indicating the area in which the applicant proposes the hedge over
four feet high, and running 30' from the Main Road and thence to
the rear property line (southerly line) . And we also have a copy
of the Suffolk County Tax Map .indicating this property and .surround-
ing properties. Would somebody like to be heard in behalf of this
application? Sir?
MR. ZINGARO: I 'm the homeowner. We also have two businesses
across the street from us. One is a real estate agency and a car
repair shop. So the hedge also eliminates that. They have a lot
of vehicles.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Do you have any idea how high you would allow
this hedge to grow?
MR. ZINGARO: Probably not over--I 'd say five to six feet.
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MR. CHAIRMAN: So it would:Dnot exceed seven or eight feet?
MR. ZINGARO : Six feet maximum.
MR. CHAIRMAN: And you would keep the hedge in the front part of
the yard fairly well-trimmed so that people would have reasonable
visibility?
MR'. ZINGARO : Right.
MRS. ;:Z.IN:GARO: It' s that way right now.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Yes, it is. We were over there last week and we
got a reasonably good picture.; I should say. it was a reasonably good
picture for me taking the picture.
MR. ZINGARO: I trimmed the front to 30" and I still have people
complaining about it, but that' s the legal height.
MR. CHAIRMAN.: Is there anybody else that .would like to be heard
in behalf of this.. application?
MR. CHAIRMAN: Anybody like to speak against .the application?
Questions from board members? (None)
MR. CHAIRMAN: Bearing in mind that the hedge is there, I don' t
. see any reason why we should hold these people up. I ' ll make a
motion with the restriction that it not exceed 6 ' in height in the
area that they have mentioned on the particular-- do you have any
idea what .the. distance is what you're actually asking for I have
153 feet, so I would assume iE,-you',re::asking: .for the first 30 which
the house is set off from the Main Road, we're talking basically 123
feet plus the .driveway, right?
MR. ZINGARO: I measured off 30 feet from the front so there on
would be the distance.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Ok, 120, plus or minus feet.
MEMBER DOYEN: Second.
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Southold Town Board of peals -9- August 31, 1 3 Regular Meeting
(Appeal No. 3156 - WILLIAM AND LINDA ZINGARO, continued: )
The board made the following findings and determination:
By this appeal, appellants seek permission to retain height of exist-
ing hedges at six feet commencing at a point 30 feet from the intersection
, of Pequash Avenue (or Fleets Neck Road) and Main Road, along the front
property line at Pequash Avenue and extending to. its most southerly point
approximately 123 feet.
The parcel in question is a corner lot as defined by. Article III,
Section .100-13. Existing on the premises is a 22-story, one-family
dwelling with porch, and accessory garage in the rear yard used for
storage purposes. Along the front property line at Main Road, , commenc-
ing at a point 30 feet from the intersection is an existing hedge four
feet in height. The appellants have only requested a variance for
hedge height along the southwest (front) property line as noted above.
The first 30 . feet along both front property lines are to be maintained
at a maximum height of 30 inches, and the existing hedge along the Main
Road at a maximum height of four . feet. Opposite the premises directly
to the southwest is a business district. The board agrees with the
reasoning of appellants.
In considering this appeal, the board determines: (1) that the
variance request is not substantial; (2) that no substantial detriment
to adjoining properties will be created; (3) that no adverse effects
will be produced on available governmental facilities of any increased
population; (4) that the relief requested will be in harmony with and
promote the general. purposes of zoning; and (5) that the interests of
justice will be served by allowing the variance, as indicated below.
On motion by Mr. Goehringer, seconded by Mr. Doyen, it was
RESOLVED, that Appeal No. 3156, application of WILLIAM AND LINDA
ZINGARO, for permission to maintain maximum height of existing hedge at
six feet, BE AND. HEREBY .IS APPROVED SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING:
That the subject hedge shall not exceed six feet in height along
the frontyard area along Pequash Avenue and the maximum 30 inches in
height shall be maintained along the first 30 feet from the above-noted
intersection.
Location of Property: Southeast corner of intersection, Main
Road and Pequash Avenue, Cutchogue, NY; County Tax Map Parcel No.
1000-102-03-007 .
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Goehringer, Doyen, Grigonis
and Douglass. (Member Sawicki was absent. ) This resolution was
unanimously adopted.
Southold Town Board o, ppeals -10- August 31, ' 33 Regular Meeting
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 3157. Application for DIMITRIOS
PAPAGIANNAKIS, by D. Kapell as agent, 400 Front Street, Greenport,
NY for a Variance to the Zoning Ordinance, Article III , . Section
100-31, Bulk Schedule, to redivide two parcels, each having insuffi-
cient area and width and located off the west side of Stars Road,
East Marion, NY; Stars Manor Subdivision Map. #3864, Lots 20 and
21; County Tax Map Parcels No.. 1000-22-04-001 and 002.
The Chairman opened .the hearing at 8 : 00 o'clock p..m. and read
the legal notice of hearing in its entirety and appeal application.
MR. CHAIRMAN: We have a copy of a survey prepared by Roderick
VanTuyl, and :Son dated July 7, 1983, showing Lot #21 of . 48 acre and
Lot #20 of . 465 acre. I have a copy of the Suffolk County Tax Map
indicating this property and the surrounding properties in the area.
Excuse me, would you like to be heard in behalf of this application,
Mr. Kapell?
DAVID KAPELL: . As described in the application, we' re asking
permission to redivide two lots as required in 1966 . All lots
along that. road are-ohalf-acre, lots-,and are similar in size and
dimensions .as the ones we propose to recreate. These are . two of
the lots that were regularly referred to in the hearings leading
up to the two-acre zoning .which everybody seems to feel was important
and were for people who couldn'.t afford to buy the larger lots that
are now required. Furthermore, my applicant feels that .he would be
aggrieved if not able to own these lots as he bought them which were
half-acre lots at the time. We would appreciate your approval.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Mr. Kapell, the only thing I see a problem with
is the fact that we have nothing from the Planning Board concerning
this. Have you made any application to the Planning Board yet?
MR. KAPELL: We've made no application to the Planning Board.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Would you have any . objection to my recessing this
hearing until we get some comments from the Planning Board?
MR. KAPELL: W. 11cyou refer it to them, or--
MR. CHAIRMAN: No, you're going to have to make an application
to them.
MR. KAPELL No, I have no problem with that.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Ok. Thank you.
MR. KAPELL: Thank you. G.00d .night.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Would anybody else like to be heard in behalf of
this application? Against the application? (None) Hearing no
comments, I ' ll make a motion recessing this hearing until we receive
comments from the Planning Board.
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Southold Town Board o: ppeals -11- August 31, )83 Regular Meeting
(Appeal No. 3157 - DIMITRIOS PAPAGIANNAKIS, continued: )
MEMBER DOUGLASS : Second.
On motion by Mr. Goehringer, seconded by Mr. Douglass, it was
RESOLVED, to recess Appeal No. -3157, application. for DIMITRIOS
PAPAGIANNAKIS, until comments from the Planning Board are received.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Goehringer, Doyen, Grigonis,
and Douglass. (Member Sawicki was absent. ) This resolution was
unanimously adopted,
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 3158. Application of CHARLES AND
CLAIRE WOOLLEY, 520 Private Road #12, Southold, NY for a Variance
to the Zoning Odinance, Article III, Section 100-32 for permission
to build garage/storage building in the frontyard area at premises
known as .520. Private Road #12, (near Bayview) , Southold, NY; County
Tax Map Parcel No. 1000-078-06-006.
The Chairman opened the hearing at 8 :05 o 'clock p.m. and read
the legal notice of hearing in its entirety. and appeal application.
MR. CHAIRMAN: We have. a copy of a survey indicating a pro-
posed location 5 ' from the neighbor and the -name appears to be
Kart, and 5' from the Monument: alon- g what appears to be the. Private
Road. They're building a structure approximately 24 ' by 241 ?
MRS. WOOLLEY: Yes.
MR. CHAIRMAN: What would you like to say in behalf of this
application, Mrs. Woolley?
MRS'.. WOOLLEY: Well, we tried to get the house-- we have two
boats and we' re trying to get the boats out of the backyard and use
it as a storage area. We have no storage area nowoand it' s creating
a problem.
MR. CHAIRMAN: I assume that the road down there is probably,
what, about. 12 or 15' wide?
MRS. WOOLLEY: The present road is 12' wide and we are set back--
we're allowed 50 feet, and we want to put the .garage 5 ' off that
50-foot area.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Is there any-possibility of pushing it back
farther?
MRS. WOOLLEY: No problem with me, but could I ask why?
MR. CHAIRMAN: Well, it is not the nature of this board to grant
buildings that close. to the line, for several reasons. I doubt
seriously however, that this road would be improved--particularly to
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(Appeal No. 3158 - CHARLES AND CLAIRE WOOLLEY, continued: )
MR. CHAIRMAN continued:
the width of 50 feet, however it' s just something we don't--
MRS. WOOLLEY: How far back did you want us to be?
MR. CHAIRMAN:. I haven't really discussed it with the board,
but I would consider somewhere .in the area of about 10 feet.
MRS. WOOLLEY: There ' s no problem with that.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Thank you very much. And this building would
be used only for storage purposes?
MRS. WOOLLEY: Right.
MR.CHAIRMAN: No sleeping quarters.
MRS. WOOLLEY: No.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Would anybody. else like to speak in behalf of
this application? Anybody like to speak against the application?
Questions from board members? Would there be any utilities in this
building, Mrs. Woolley,. other than electric?
MRS. WOOLLEY: No.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Hearing no further questions, I' ll make a motion
closing the hearing and reserving decision until later.
MEMBER GRIGONIS : Second.
On motion by Mr. Goehringer, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it was
RESOLVED, to close the hearing and reserve decision in the matter
of Appeal No. 3158, application of CHARLES AND CLAIRE WOOLLEY, until
later.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Goehringer, Doyen, Grigonis,
and Douglass. (Member Sawicki was absent. ) This resolution was
unanimously adopted.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 3160. Application for A. DELANEY:,:
by Environment East, Inc. , Indian Neck Lane, Peconic, NY. for a Variance
to the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section 100-32 for permission to
construct accessory garage/storage building in the frontyard area at
premises located at the south side of Great Peconic. Bay Boulevard, Laurel,
NY; County Tax Map Parcel No. 1000-128-02-009.
The Chairman opened the hearing at 8 :10 o'clock p.m. and read
the legal notice of hearing in its entirety and appeal application.
Southold Town Board c Appeals -13- August 3 . 1983 Regular Meeting
(Appeal No. 3160 - A. DELANEY, continued: )
MR. CHAIRMAN: We have a copy of a survey indicating the placement
of the garage 90 ' from Peconic Bay Boulevard .and 15 ' from the west
property line. The garage will be approximately 24 ' by 241 . I have
a copy of the Suffolk County Tax Map indicating this property and
the surrounding properties in the area. Mr. Stoutenburg, would you
like to be heard in behalf of this application? .
PETER STOUTENBURG: Yes, Mr. President, Members of the Board and
members of the building department. Mr. Delaney apologizes for not
being out: .here;.at the meeting. They are presently moving into the
area,-so the use of this house is changed from a seasonal residence
and they hope to make it full time since their"-;business has moved
further east, although they are still tied up with things down on
the west end where they also have a home.
I think the application covers most .of the points that I might
just touch on for a moment. Most important I think is that that
whole side of the road is basically vegetation--I don' t know if
you could see, but one or two of the neighbors further to the east
of maybe two or three houses down- are the neighbors to the west.
You see everybody' s garages in front of their houses. We tried
to locate the garage in a location that we felt was least-- a
considerable distance back so that it didn' t disturb any of the
neighbors. I think the neighbor on the west has a small shed and
wood pile which is half on the Delaney property. You would only
get a glimpse of this building as you .stood in the. driveway. I
don't think it would be obvious to most people driving down there.
They do need some sort. of storage on the property and even their
summer belongings, beach equipment, chairs. The house isn' t all
that large, and they've got a young child as well. There ,is a
lot of equipment I'm sure that the kid has that they really can' t
fit into the house or any attached sheds to the house. I suspect
that most garages are used at least half for storage and the other
half for a vehicle. It' s not close enough to the house that it
could be used everyday for a car. In the proposed garage there ' s
no plans at the moment for any electric or plumbing of any sorts.
In the future I 'm sure it will be something--electricity at least.
MR. CHAIRMAN: It is your understanding that it will always
remain as a storage building?
MR. STOUTENBURG: Oh, yes. There is no second floor to it. . .
It has a high-pitched roof plan for storage up in that area at
some point. We' re not planning on putting in any type of floors
or anything else in there and there will be .no window on the
second-floor level. The whole first floor is opened up, exposed
behind two very, large garage doors.
MR. CHAIRMAN: The second question I have, would the garage
doors open toward the road-
MR. STOUTENBURG: At right angles to it.
MR. CHAIRMAN: At right angles to the road.
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(Appeal No. 3160 - A. DELANEY, continued: )
MR.. STOUTENBURG: They would be parallel to the drive going into
the property, so you wouldn' t look into it but you would !-- be along
the side Ishould say. The side facing the drive.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Would anybody else like to speak in behalf of
this application? Anybody wishing to speak against the application?
Any questions from any board members? What ' s the timeliness on this,
do they want to ..get going on it, Sir?
MR. STOUTENBURG: Yes. It' s something that, since they are
moving out here, I don' t know if you people have .inspected it--I 'm
sure you saw it--there are piles of some things under plastic that
when they contacted me, they hadn' t realized they had to go to the
board and it took us some time to get the applications in. They
were sitting a little bit longer than estimated,
MR. CHAIRMAN: All right. Bearing that in mind, I ' ll make a
motion approving this, with the following condition: That the
structure remain always the storage building and that it be con-
structed as per this hearing, with the garage doors opening toward
the blacktop driveway.
MEMBER GRIGONIS : Second.
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Southold Town Board of )peals -15- August 31., 3 Regular Meeting
(Appeal No. 3160 - A. DELANEY, continued: )
The board made the following findings and determination:
By this appeal, applicant seeks permission to construct a 24 ' by
24 ' accessory two-car garage to be located in the frontyard area approxi-
mately 90 ' from Peconic Bay Boulevard and having. a minimum sideyard of
15 feet from the westerly side property line. The premises in question
has frontage along Peconic Bay Boulevard of 94 ..66 feet and an average
depth of 456 feet, and fronts 105. 26 feet at a tie line along Peconic
Bay. Existing on the premises in question is a one-family, one-story
frame house with porch located at the southerly portion of the premises.
The board agrees. with the reasoning of applicant and find that
the area chosen for this proposed accessory garage is the most practical
and feasible under the circumstances.
In considering this appeal, the board determines: (1) that the
variance request is not substantial; (2) that no adverse deteriment
to adjoining properties will be created; .(3) that no adverse effects
will be produced on available governmental facilities of any increased
population; (4) that the circumstances are unique; (5) that the
relief requested will be in harmony with and promote the general
purposes of zoning, and (6) that the interests of justice will be
served by allowing the variance, as indicated below.
On motion by Mr. Goehringer, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it was
RESOLVED, that Appeal No. 3160, application for A. DELANEY for
permission . to . construct 24 ' by 24 ' two-car garage in the frontyard
area; BE AND HEREBY IS APPROVED, SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS :
1. That the subject building be used only for storage/garage
purposes;
2. That the subject building shall face its garage doors toward
the driveway (not to the street) ;
3. That the grant of this variance relies upon. tli.e statements
made at the August 31, 1983 hearing.
Location of Property: South Side of Great Peconic Bay Boule-
vard, Laurel, NY; County Tax Map Parcel No. 1000-128-02-009.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Goehringer, Doyen, Grigonis,
and Douglass. (Member Sawicki was absent. ) This resolution was
unanimously adopted.
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Southold Town Board c appeals -16- August 3: 1983 Regular Meeting
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 3161. Application for PETER LUHRS,
by Michael J. Hall, Esq. , 218 Front Street, Greenport, NY for a
Special Exception to the Zoning Ordinance, Article VII , Section
100-70 (B) [4] for permission to establish a public garage/repair
station in this "B-1 General Business District, " premises known as
45845 North Road, Southold, NY; County Tax Map Parcel No. 1000-
55-02-17 (Owner: L.P. Ed.son) .
The Chairman opened the hearing at 8 :18 o'clock p.m. and read
the legal notice of hearing in its entirety and appeal application.
MR. CHAIRMAN: We have a copy of a survey indicating the
proposed structure of approximately 1, 700 sq. ft. , which will lie
approximately 40 ' from the Middle Road, 35 ' from the west property
line and 55' from the rear, and there is no di:stance shown for the
east side area. We also have a copy of the Suffolk County Tax Map
indicating this property and the surrounding properties in the area.
Mr. Hall, would you like to be heard? Prior to that, however, I
should mention that I do have one letter of objection in the file
that :thb"'bbard._ i s.*,awar.e..-:of
MICHAEL J. . HALL, . ESQ. : At this time what I would like to hand
to the board and. I have seven copies which I received just about a
half hour ago, are a rough draft of the front of the building and
a- sketch on top. of the survey, showing the approximate location of
the building and the bays and the parking spaces.
(A copy of the sketched-in survey dated 2/6/67 .and rough draft
of the front of the building was made part of the file. )
MR. HALL: Anderson on Zoning, which I 'm sure everyone recog-
nizes as the source of zoning law and report on zoning laws, states
that if an applicant for a special permit to establish a gasoline
station--and I' ll interrupt--Peter Luhrs doesn' t want 'to establish
a gasoline station. There will be no gasoline.
If an applicant fora special permit to establish a gasoline
station meets the standards recited in the zoning regulations, the
permit must be issued as a matter of course. A permit may not be
denied except upon the basis of findings which are supported by
evidence. That' s Anderson, page 524.
Under. the "B-1 General Business District, " and Article VII of
the code, states that the following uses are permitted by Special
Exception of the Board of Zoning Appeals: I 'm sure .you know it
better than I do. One of those uses permitted by Special Exception
is a public garage, gasoline service station and new or used car
lot, all subject to the following requirements. One is that an
exit and entrance driveway shall have an unrestricted width of not
less than 12 feet and not more than 30 feet and shall not be located
less than 10 feet from any property line, and shall so be laid out
as to avoid the necessity of any vehicle backing out across a
public right.-of-way.
The building is laid .out such the curb cut is already existing
Southold Town Board c kppeals -17- August 31, 983 Regular Meeting
(Appeal No. 3161 - PETER 'LUHRS, continued:)
MR. HALL continued:
that any vehicles going in and out of the service station will be
going in straight off the North Road. to the. back of the building.
They' ll be able to turn around back there, they' ll be plenty of
room and we' ll be coming straight out for easy egress and ingress.
The second requirement is that vehicle lifts or pits, dismantled
automobiles and. all parts and supplies shall be located within a
building. By all means, they will be. And a step better than that,
Peter Luhrs has located the entrance bays at the back of the building.
It will be completely. invisible from the street from either direction
on the North Road. - Everything will be located inside the building.
It won' t .be a retail store. It won' t be a gasoline station as I said
earlier.
(c) : All service or repair of motor vehicles other than such
minor servicing as change of tires or sale of gasoline or oil- shall
be conducted in a building. Again everything will be conducted in
a building.
And as far as the residents of Southold are concerned, the
public including myself driving on the North Road--they won' t see it.
It' ll be a very pretty storefront and Peter Luhrs intends making it
an actually attractive building, and will have all the work take
place inside the building and any parking being done behind.
There are also requirements (d) , (e) , (f) , and several others,
which pertain only to gasoline stations. They have to do with the
storage of gasoline and flammable oils, gasoline-fuel pumps, motor
vehicle sales, et cetera, et cetera, and they don' t apply to this
application here.
So just based on that, Peter Luhrs' application does apply, I
think, in all respects to the requirements of the code for a Special
Exception for a service. station.
Again, before the board, that' s you, can give approval for a
Special Exception, the board shall determine: (a) that the use will
not prevent the -orderly and reasonable use of adjacent properties or
properties in adjacent-use districts. . . the only adjacent actual use
right now, the adjacent property of Mr. Hufe on the west, Mr. and
Mrs. Hufe on the west. To* .the immediate north is the new Suffolk
County drainage sump and immediately to the east is vacant land,
relatively narrow vacant land. The use of the adjacent properties
wouldn't,_-.be affected at all by the addition of this building, and
it might even enhance the use. Of course, the sump in the back has
not bearing at all.
" . . .That the use will not prevent the orderly and reasonable use
of. permitted or legally established uses in the district where the
proposed use is to be located. " The use established now in the Hufe
building- is the Daval Party Tents and I don' t know--there are some
other rental uses in the building. The location of the public garage,
Peter Luhrs' garage, won't have any adverse effects on that. There
It ,
Southold Town Board c appeals -18- August 31, 983 Regular Meeting
(Appeal No. 3161 - PETER LUHRS, continued: )
MR. HALL continued:
will be shrubs screening most of the area from any adjacent uses. Again
the sump is in the back so there is no real use there, and to the east
is a vacant piece of land which is zoned "B-1" also, "General Business, "
and could be set up for any business--there wouldn't be a conflict of
anything.
The most important factor I think is (c) , that the safety, health,
welfare, comfort, convenience, and the order of the town will not be
adversely affected by the proposed use. My own opinion is that the
proposed location for this garage is ideal for two considerations.
One is that it is close enough to the heart of the Hamlet of Southold
to be convenient for all of us who need our cars repaired. It' s far
enough away, located up- .on the North Road, adjacent to and nearby
other service-type buildings--it ' s far away from the town--the heart
of the town, the central business part of Southold Hamlet so they
won' t cause any inconvenience, or,--odors or anything - for any residential
areas nearby;
With regard to the safety, the proposed garages on the stretch of
the North Road, which is very level and very- straight for a pretty
good distance, there should be no traffic difficulties whatsoever in
that--inasmuch that it' s not a ,gas station and there will not be a
lot of in and out traffic--maybe Mr. Luhrs will "repair two, three,
four, five, six, seven, eight or as much as ten 'cars a day--there' s
still very little ingress and egress coming in and- out of the North
Road.
The fourth factor in the zoning code that the use will be in
harmony with and promote the general purpose and intent of the
chapter. Specifically with regard to public garages and gas sta-
tions, the purpose of the code of course is to protect the public
and the public. being the population of the Town of Southold. There' s
a lot of bad potential especially for gasoline stations- in terms of
dripping into the ground with gasoline, .�.in terms of fire hazard,
explosion hazard, storage, et cetera. None of those should apply
here at all. It' s strictly a service station as I've repeated.
The positive aspects of the garage which I would like to
st'ate,:--is that it is needed in the Town of Southold. Right now in
the Hamlet, the only two garages that I 'm aware of doing service
are Wheeler' s up-'on`'the: :North Road and Mullen' s up �on the Main Road.
About two months I went to have work done at. Mullen' s and I had to
make an appointment almost two weeks in advance because they' re so
backed up.
I can speak personally for Mr. Luhrs' integrity as a mechanic.
It' s good. That' s not relevant here but he is a local businessman.
The bays will not face on the street. It will all be in the
- rear. It' ll keep an attractive building at all times and won't let
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(Appeal No. 3161 - PETER LUHRS, continued: )
MR. HALL continued:
it become anything less than that. And that' s all I have to say.
Does anyone have any questions?
MR. CHAIRMAN : I was wondering, Mr.. Hall, why you placed the
building so far toward the west property line in front of the
building within the immediate boundaries of . the property.
MR. HALL: Peter, is there any reason for that?
PETER LUHRS: Yes. I thought that if I should do well, later
on maybe I could put another bay on in the back, add. on to the side
and I could still have the sideyard footage.
MR. CHAIRMAN: The Planning Board didn' t require you to put
it in this area?
MR. LUHRS : No. No. I just felt i:f ..I were to centralize it,
I would kind of blocked myself in.
MR. CHAIRMAN;:1, You .wer'e:..going:,.to`:say, Mr. Hall?
MR. HALL: I was just going. to say if the Planning Board were
to require it in a different location it could be moved. There' s
no building there yet. It' s just a sketch. Are there any other
q_ue°stion s?
MR. CHAIRMAN: Let' s see what develops, all right? Thank you.
Would anybody else like to speak in behalf of this application?
MR. ALBERTSON: For or against?
MR. CHAIRMAN: For. Would anybody like to speak against the
application? Sir?
JUNE ALBERTSON:. I just don' t seem to understand why we' re even
going for a rezoning--seeing how the piece of property. was sold and
in contract and a check for the contract was in for the same identical
price as these people have come in with after the contracts had been
sent out, and didn' t require any rezoning at all, and it was going
to be brought in to the same piece . of property as Mr. Hufe, so it
would cut down on the size--would add to the size of the property.
I just don' t understand why we' re even here to rezone it because the
man had put up his',..check, was in contract, and all of a sudden we
get a letter two days after we were told it 'was taken off the market,
that they didn't want to sell it. And two days later we get a request
for a rezoning. I just don' t understand why we're rezoning it.
MR. CHAIRMAN: It' s not a rezoning, Mr. Albertson. It' s a
special exception use.
MR. ALBERTSON: That' s right. We didn' t ask for any special use
on the other purchase of the property. The property was already .
purchased with a three-week period between the time that the contract
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Southold Town Board c appeals -20- August 31, 983 Regular Meeting
(Appeal No. 3161 - PETER LUHRS, continued: )
was signed and sent in. I don' t understand.. We' re completely baffled
as to why the whole thing has .happened.
PERSON FROM AUDIENCE: That' s not the board' s problem.
MR. ALBERTSON: I don' t know whose problem it is but it' s a
pretty big problem.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Could you ask that gentleman to come in please.
AL KOKE: I was just saying. That' s not the board' s problem
who bought it. They' re asking for a. rezoning, right?
MR. CHAIRMAN: Could I' .have your name, Sir?
MR. KOKE: Al Koke.
MR. LESSARD: No, they' re not asking for a rezoning,
MR. CHAIRMAN: No, this is not a rezoning, Sir--it' s a special
use.
MR. KOKE: But these people are crying sour grapes and it doesn' t
make any sense why they should be worried about what .check was -in
what and everything else.
MR.. CHAIRMAN: This has no bearing.
MR. KOKE: I 'm sorry. Never mind.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Mrs. Hufe?
MRS. HUFE: I would just like to question. I don' t fully under-
stand all .the rezoning and special exemption. We are the property
owners adjacent to this property and from what I do understand this
property can be purchased without any rezoning or any special exemp-
tion, and why be allowed. I sort of question why the town would
downgrade .or change the zoning if there isn' t. a need for it.
MR. CHAIRMAN: There isn't any change of zoning. There isn' t
any downgrading or upgrading at this particular time. I would.
rather address the. question to Mr. Lessard, who is the Executive
Administrator. Would you answer that for us, Mr. Lessard?
MR. LESSARD, BUILDING DEPT. : The way the code is written, they
established certain types of business that you could . set up in a
"B Zone, " and they also set---up certain types of business that would
be permissible by an Ok from the Appeals Board. That' s the way the
law was written and that way you can-' control the type of uses in
that area.. and it' s all paperwork actually. But the fact that it
was written this way, and they needed an approval from the Board
of Appeals to do this type of thing=-that' s the only reason they' re
here. We're not changing zones or anything else.
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Southold Town Board c Appeals -21- August 31, 13 Regular Meeting
(Appeal No. 3161 — PETER LUHRS, continued: )
MRS. HUFF: But some businesses are in: effect allowed to be up
there without having to have special appeals like this, and then
there are businesses that have to have special appeals. Is that
correct?
MR. LESSARD: That' s right.
MRS. HUFE: I 'm just questioning the validity or the reasons why
you would be concerned with having a business that has to be looked
into.
MR. LESSARD: Ma' am, it' s. hard for me to explain it to you.
I or the building department or the board of appeals don't make these
laws. Unfortunately, this goes through the Town Board and in their
wisdom they felt that they needed some type control on the businesses
and the law was written this way; and as such, all-: we can do is do
what the law says. It' s a technical thing. It' s there.
MRS. HUFE: As a resident and also as an adjacent property
owner, we have a right to question why a. business that does not--
is not listed or automatically qualify it' s being allowed to be
constructed when there are businesses that can be there that
automatically would be accepted.
MR. LESSARD: Yes, you can question that, certainly. Certainly.
MRS. HUFE: That' s what we' re doing--questioning it.
MR. LESSARD: Ok. I thought you wanted me to explain the law
the way it was written. Neither pro nor con.
MRS. HUFE: No, I understand and I realize that it' s an import-
ant job to have when. there--
MR. HALL: May I speak?
MR. CHAIRMAN: Yes.
MR. HALL: If it would help to address both the Hufes and the
board, I can quote Anderson again because he speaks directly to
that question; and I think it would give the board and the neighbors
some direction.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Ok, go ahead.
MRS. HUFE: Excuse me, could you put it into simple terms so
that I can understand it.
MR. HALL: It' s fairly clear. I 'm just going to. read, but I ' ll
read it slowly. Again, from Anderson:
" . . .The special permit technique provides a municipality. through
its legislative body or Board of Appeals an opportunity to review the
plans of the proposed gas station and to estimate the .harm which may
result if it is established in the location desired by the applicant.
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Southold Town Board Appeals -22- Augu 31, 1983 Regular Meeting
(Appeal No. 3161 - PETER LUHRS, continued: )
MR. HALL continued:
The zoning regulations or their application can be considered in
relation to a. particular use on a specific site. And if a permit
is granted, it can be conditioned so as to protect adjacent land,
prevent unnecessary traffic hazard and generally to accommodate the
new use to the exact area in which it will be maintained. It
should not be concluded, however, that the special permit device
gives the issuing authority unlimited authority to deny a permit,
issue a permit or provide a custom-made solution for every problem
presented by a permit. application. The discretion of a legislative
body with power to review gasoline station permits is.-broad but is
not unlimited. The power of a Zoning Board of Appeals should pro-
cess that permit that is strictly confined by the ordinance. . . . "
I think that helps.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Can I have further comments from the opposition--
would anybody else like to say something?
MR. ALBERTSON: I guess I misunderstand the zoning law. I
thought that what we're trying to do in the Town , is to cut down
the size of lots, which we would. be doing in this case because
the man that owns the property next door would be buying it, and
it would be all one piece. There would be nothing on it. He
isn't asking for any -- And he had purchased it and we're trying
to understand where the discrimination comes in, I guess. And I
guess that much would have to go to the State instead of here.
We're in the wrong place.
MR. CHAIRMAN: To be honest with you, Mr. Albertson, I don' t
know--first of all I think it would be out of order for me to
question Mr. Hall concerning how and where it came about; and
secondly, even more uniquely we have had people come before us
that haven't even been contract vendees to property and asked
for things when people lived out of State and so on and so forth.
I really couldn't address that particular problem tonight and
I apologize--but I hope you' ll understand. Is there anybody else
that would like to speak in behalf of the application--any
rebuttal, Mr. Hall?
(None)
MR. CHAIRMAN: Any questions from any board members? Just
one further comment, Mrs. Hufe, on the special use and this came
up when Mr. Hall was reading. If the special use didn't exist,
I couldn't ask Mr. Hall a question because he wouldn't be here
in front of us--as the question I asked him, and that was, "Why
did you plan on putting this station or the proposed structure
in the area, ok, that you have proposed to place it" ; and I think
the special use is an effective tool in the Town of Southold. It
has helped a lot of problems down the line after something has
been constructed, particularly between property owners and so on
Southold Town Board (__ Appeals -23- August 1983 Regular Meeting.
(Appeal No. 3161 - PETER LUHRS, continued: )
MR. CHAIRMAN continued:
and so forth. We find it an effective tool, ok?
MRS. HUFE: I agree with you--I 'm very glad it' s here. But I
have to pick up on some words that you said--you said that the
buildings are in effect, two minutes ago, and said he solved a lot
of problems. Well this building isn' t there; and we are there next
to it and I'm just concerned about the number of garages that will
be just a few hundred feet away--there is one that is down the road.-
There is one for sale that is directly across the street which I'm
sure has no bearing on that here, but as far as we're concerned-
adjacent property owners and also town property owners as to the
number that will be within close proximity.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Thank you. Hearing no further comments from
anyone, I ' ll make a motion closing the hearing and reserving deci-
sion until later.
MEMBER GRIGONIS: Second.
On motion by Mr. Goehringer, seconded by Mr.
RESOLVED, to close the hearing and reserve decision until later
in the matter of Appeal No. 3161, .application for PETER LUHRS.
Vote of the _Board: Ayes: Messrs. Goehringer, Doyen, Grigonis
and Douglass. (Member Sawicki was absent. ) This resolution was
unanimously adopted.
PUBLIC. HEARING: Appeal No. 3162. Application for T.J. LUKAS,
by R. Ketcham as agent, Box 295, East Marion, NY for a Variance to
the Zoning Ordinance, Article VI, Section 100-60 (C) [3] (a) to erect
an off-premises-directional sign upon premises of T.J LUKAS for
the Puerto Verde Restaurant at 69700 Main Road, Greenport, NY;
County Tax Map Parcel. No., 1000-045-05-002.
The Chairman opened the hearing at 8:40 p.m. and read the legal
notice of hearing in its entirety and appeal application.
MR. CHAIRMAN: We have a copy of a building permit application.
indicating a proposed 3 ' by 8 ' sign with the writing on it, and I
have a copy of the Suffolk County Tax Map indicating this property
where it is to be erected. Is there anyone wishing to speak in
behalf of this application?
ROBERT KETCHAM: I 'm the agent for the Puerto Verde Restaurant.
MR. CHAIRMAN: How far off the road would it be placed, Mr. Ketcham?
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(Appeal No. 3162 - T.J. LUKAS, continued: )
MR. KETCHAM: It would be five feet from the edge of the road--
whatever the law is it will be.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Will. it be a lighted sign?
MR. KETCHAM: No.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Will it have iridescent lettering?
MR. KETCHAM: No. Just plain printed letters. It won' t actually
show up at night time.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Ok. Thank you very much. Is there anyone that
would like to speak against this application? (No one) . Any ques-
tions from any board members? (None) . Hearing no further questions,
I ' ll make a motion closing the hearing and reserving decision until
later.
MEMBER GRIGONIS: Second.
On motion by Mr. Goehringer, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it was
RESOLVED, to close the hearing and reserve decision until later
in the matter of Appeal No. 3162, application for T.J. LUKAS.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Goehringer, Doyen, Grigonis
and Douglass. (Member Sawicki was absent. ) This resolution was
unanimously adopted.
TEMPORARY RECESS: On motion by Mr. Douglass, seconded by Mr.
Doyen, it was
RESOLVED, to recess temporarily for five minutes, at which
time the Regular Meeting would be reconvened. The recess took
place from 8 :44 p.m. till 8 :51 p.m.
. Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Goehringer, Doyen, Grigonis
and Douglass. (Member Sawicki was absent [family illness] ) . This
resolution was unanimously adopted.
RECONVENED MEETING: At 8 : 51 p.m. , the board members returned
and motion was made by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Doyen, to
reconvene the Regular Meeting at this time.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Goehringer, Doyen, Grigonis
and Douglass. (Member Sawicki was absent [family illness] ) . This
resolution was unanimously adopted.
Southold Town Board c_ _appeals -25- August 31, 83 Regular Meeting
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal. No. 3110 . Application of the CUTCHOGUE
FREE LIBRARY, Main Road, Box 935, Cutchogue, NY for. a Variance to the
Zoning Ordinance, .Article VII, Section, 10.0-71, Bulk Schedule, �for
permission to construct addition with insufficient rear and side yard
setbacks, and small addition reducing the frontyard setback, at pre-
mises known as 28735 Main Road, Cutchogue, NY; County Tax Map Parcel
No. 1000-102-05-022 and part of 023.
:..The. Chairman opened the hearing at 8 :51 o'-clock p.m. and
read the legal notice of hearing in its entirety and the sub-
ject application.
MR. CHAIRMAN: We have a copy of the plans and a survey-sketch
. indicating . the placement of the building and a copy of the Suffolk
County Tax Map indicating this property and the surrounding properties
in the area. Mr. Peters., would you like to be heard in behalf of
this application?
WILLIAM PETERS: I have a one-sheet piece of carbon paper here
which is the architect' s rendering of what the building will look like
when it' s completed. The upper portion of the architect' s rendering,
the lower portion is an outline of an existing building and the exten-
sion and the walkway and the old and the new setbacks that we have,
or will have. _ A library is. .a rather unique building in that it can
only have one public entrance or control. The person who sits behind
the circulation desk and checks out the books has to have full view
of the entire library, and also has to be able to view the door so
that people don't sneak out with books.
This piece of property and this library is such that we will
have patrons entering from the street side and we'll also have pat-
rons entering from the parking lot. This would normally save, say
you have a front entrance and you have a .rear entrance--we can ' t have
two entrances because this is a library, but we could if we doubled
the staff. . We would then have to have a check-out desk in the front
and a check-out desk in. the back.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Let me put this up while you' re speaking and
maybe everybody can get a better view of what we' re dealing with here.
(The Chairman placed the architect' s drawing on the wall for viewing. )
MR. PETERS : Well, let me talk from this then. The hatch mark
is the existing building, with an entrance at this point. What we
would like to do is add an extension to the rear. .to increase the size
of the library and then have a covered walkway running along side
this building so that we really have a front entrance into the walk-
way and a rear entrance into the walkway. This is the parking lot.
And this is the street. This would be the entrance into the library
itself, with. the circulation desk looking in front, at the front door
of the library. The parking we have is p.r.eser_tly ileased from Mr.
Lark, and we have an option to buy, and we are presently going through
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(Appeal No. 3110 - CUTCHOGUE FREE LIBRARY, continued:)
MR. PETERS continued:
the minor- subdivision necessary to purchase this land from Mr. Lark.
We have architects working on the construction drawings for this
particular library.
The setback on.. the sideyard--oh, incidentally, we also have
a common driveway with Mr. Lark which runs along side the building.
We are purchasing the triangular piece of property from Mr. Lark so
that he owns half the driveway and we own half. .the driveway. And
we each have an easement so we each can use the driveway.
The reduction in sideyard. i.s required so we can have this
covered walk.. We could probably do .without the covered walk and
just have an entrance in. the side here, but this then presents us
with the problem of keeping the pedestrian traffic off the driveway
and keeping the car traffic off the pedestrian walk. We feel the
best way of doing this is to have an actual covered walkway and
there will be a fence along this walkway so - you cannot go from the
driveway into the covered walk. The only entrance . to the covered
walk is from the front of the building or from the rear of the
building.
The reduction in' the frontyard setback is desired because
we have to. have an opening that looks like a building. opening. If
we just have a single simple shed-type structure having a covered
walk, it just doesn' t appeal aesthetically. I think that' s showing
up very well. in the architect' s rendering where you have a wide
opening in the front. It reduces the frontyard setback, I think
from 19 . 3 feet something to , the area: of 15 feet.
The sideyard setback since we 're buying this triangular
piece of property, reduces from 7. 8 feet in the front, 7. 4 feet
and in the rear it reduces .the sideyard setback from 7. 8 feet to
1. 8 feet.
That' s our story.. We have discussed this with our-- To
the rear we have a Board of Education building, a school. On our
one side here, we have property that was just sold and may become
a restaurant or something- like that. On the other side we have
Mr. Lark. And we've had meetings with Mr. Lark and he concurs
and he concurs in writing that what we are doing is acceptable to
him.
MR. ,CHAIRMAN: Is. that presently the case, Mr. Peters, con-
cerning the covered walk also?
MR. PETERS : Yes. Yes.
MR. CHAIRMAN Because I have had communications with him
in the way of a telephone call. This has been going on for a
certain amount time, and he at that particular time was not happy
with the covered walk.
MR. PETERS: May I ask how long ago this was?
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MR. PETERS: We have minutes of the meeting we had with Mr. Lark,
in which he withdraws his objections.
MR.. CHAIRMAN: I don' t know, Mr. Peters, we've had four. applica-
tions.
MR. LESSARD: The edge of that walk there, is that on the edge
of the driveway?
MR. PETERS: We own about 1. 8 feet.
MR. LESSARD: This is what I was. asking--that walkway--this
is considered part of the building, ok?
MR. PETERS: That' s correct.
MR. LESSARD: So. if you' re going for the variance, let' s go
one time and--
MR. PETERS.: That' s what we're .doing.
MR. LESSARD : You said 7.. 6 or 7. 5 something--
MR. PETERS: We' re buying .a piece of property--this line right
here is the old line. We are buying a triangular piece of property.
I think seven feet in the .front and it extends all the way back, so
that half of this driveway-.-this is now -- buying. an .additional seven
feet here keeps us pretty much with the same setback that� the...build-
ing has right now. up front.
MR. LESSARD.: Up front, yes.
MR. PETERS.: It' s a triangular piece, and the setback reduces
to 1. 8 feet back here. Now. one of Mr. Lark' s objections .was _a two-way
driveway here. He does. .not want to give up any additional land here
for a two-way driveway and was not willing to .sell us the additional
land and we said, "A1.1 right. " His objection was the fact that he was
concerned that people would be crossing from the driveway onto the
covered walk; and we. agreed to that and said we would put a barrier
up. And we have a fence as shown here running the entire length of
the covered walk.
MR.. LESSARD: How,,wide is your driveway, sir?. Would it take
two cars presently?
MR. PETERS : No, it will not take two cars. And it has never
taken two cars. This is the old Justice Court, and at times there
were 50, 60 people using this court; and there was a single driveway
at that time.
MR.":,LESSARD : While I 'm asking you this and I don't mean to
interfere with this meeting, the neighbor to the west, of course, and
I asked him to speak to .you, but feasibly .if he is.".going to put a
restaurant there, maybe we can get an in-and-out condition both for
his advantage and yours. . So that if somebody is coming out of the
r
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MR. LESSARD continued:
parking lot, and two ladies are trying to .turn in and they panick,
you know, we can avoid that type of situation. . It was just a thought.
MR. PETERS : Well, I think that--I understand what you're
_ saying and I 've thought of this also. However, at the time this
thought came up the property had not transferred title .yet and he
said he was going to get in touch with us? He .has not gotten in
touch with me.
MR. LESSARD : Well, I talked to him yesterday, so he is
looking for .you, ok? I just wanted you to be aware of that. But
that might ease some of the conditions.
MR. PETERS : If that' s going to muddy this water., I would
just assume -not use--
MR. ' LESSARD: If it' s going to be .in your favor or I would
not have mentioned it. Ok?
MR. PETERS: My concern is that we have a number of applica-
tions pending which would give us a fair amount of money if we
break ground before the end of the year, and that' s why the grand
push here.
.MR. CHAIRMAN:. Mr. Peters, can. I ask you a question? Did
you have anything further to say concerning this rendering before
we continue--
MR. PETERS : I 'm just here to answer the questions, really.
MR. CHAIRMAN : Concerning the statement that you eluded to
about Mr. Lark not wanting any further reduction on his sideyard.
MR. PETERS: He said he did not want to sell us any additional
land for a two-way driveway.
MR. CHAIRMAN : So we assume that the driveway, as it exists
on that plan will not be two-way as it exists.
MR. PETERS: Right, it will not.
MR. CHAIRMAN: So there will be no way change of the existing
driveway as it is right now.
MR. PETERS: That' s right. Well, there may be a foot or two
in the process of building.
MR. CHAIRMAN: You' re not going to force the driveway over
closer to his building?
MR. PETERS: No. Not at all . In the site plan it shows his
shrubbery and we have no intention of moving his shrubbery, although
he indicated that as long as we didn' t touch the tree we could do
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MR. PETERS continued:
whatever we wanted .with the shrubbery.
MR. CHAIRMAN: So we assume that that driveway as it is shown
right there is not accurate.
MR. PETERS: That' s not accurate.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Ok.
MR. PETERS: As shown . in the site plan, it is accurate.
MR. CHAIRMAN:. We then can also assume that Mr. Lark has no
adverse feelings toward the covered walk at this particular time.
MR. PETERS : Not that I know of, in fact it' s my impression
that he' s in favor of it. Because when we met with him, he did not
realize the problems associated with having people--if we only had
an entrance in the front, people parking would have:. to walk along
the driveway into. the front, and. -if we have an entrance in the
back--I 'm talking .single entrance which a library has to have--
but if we had an entrance in the back, people approaching from
the street would have to walk in the driveway. In . our conversa-
tions with_ him, he realized that that driveway would become a
pedestrian walkway if did not go this..way. And I think that' s
what has convinced him that this is not -- this is the way to go
provided we put up a barrier. so ,that people cannot cross into the
covered walkway from the driveway,
MR. CHAIRMAN : Do you have any. idea how high the barrier is
going to be?
MR. PETERS: Whatever will. keep people--if necessary, we 'll
run it up to the ceiling, up to the top of the covered walk. I
don 't think that' s going to look too well though.
MR. LESSARD : Well, on this it indicates about five feet if
I know any design. And that' s enough to keep a kid from hopping over.
And I think that that' s the main concern is some kid breaking out of
there and stepping into a car. So, I think that the way this is
designed would solve Mr. Lark' s anxiety personally from what he
discussed with me. He was afraid that you would have a pedestrian
verses--
MR. .PETERS: Oh, yeah.
MR. LESSARD : But that seems to have been eliminated.
. MR. PETERS : That' s right. In our original design, we did
not have a barrier. It was strictly open. And talking .to .Mr. Lark
made us .:see the error of our ways. In fact we had the architect
meet with Mr. Lark and came to this resolution of his. concern.
MR. CHAIRMAN : Mr. Peters, would you have any objection to
this board if they so desire to grant this application placing a
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MR. CHAIRMAN continued:
restriction on this that instead of what you refer to as a barrier,
a guardrail be placed the length of that -particular covered area?
MR. PETER: Fine.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Because there is a concern of this board since
the driveway is so close--the covered walk is so close to the driveway,
that possibly cars could penetrate that barrier. This happened in
Rocky Point and killed two students.
MR. PETERS! You're right. I agree. I think what we should do
is put a bumper-type--
MR. CHAIRMAN : Guard rail.
MR. PETERS : All right, we' ll -have a guardrail in addition to
the fence or barrier. But that' s a good point.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Is. there anybody else in behalf of this applica-
tion? (.No one) . Anyone wishing to speak against the application?
(No one. )
MR. PETERS: Can we have a rather prompt resolution of this?
MR. CHAIRMAN : Hopefully within 10 days. Ok?
JANE MINERVA: May. I say just one thing?
MR. CHAIRMAN: Certainly.
MRS. MINERVA: In the case the board doesn't know, I'm the
director of the library and Mr. Lessard' s question as to the rear
setback, .what was it, 1 . 8 foot .at the very back point of the .build-
ing. That really is no-' longer a driveway. That has at some point
along the line become a very, very wide parking lot.
MR. PETERS : It' s into the parking lot.
MRS. MINERVA: The parking lot starts about two-thirds of
the way back so that what- we.' re really not confining ourselves
by that back corner of the building.
MR. LESSARD: No, I understand. I just wanted to make sure
that he was. getting the right variance so .that we don' t have to go
through another turnout. I understand. You took the: driveway, and
each . took .a diamond shape out of' it.
MR. PETERS: It turns out that he owns practically the whole
driveway, and he wants to be sure that we were equally liable that' s
why he sold us--
MR. CHAIRMAN: All right. Any questions from any board .members?
(None) . Hearing no .further questions, I' ll make a motion closing the
hearing . and reserving decision.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -31- August 31, 1983 Regular Meeting
(Appeal No. 3110 - CUTCHOGUE FREE LIBRARY, continued: )
MEMBER DOUGLASS: Second.
On motion by Mr. Goehringer, seconded by Mr. Douglass, it was
RESOLVED, to close the hearing and reserve decision until later
in the matter .of Appeal No. 3110, application of the CUTCHOGUE FREE
LIBRARY.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Goehringer, Doyen, Grigonis
and Douglass. (Member Sawicki was absent. ) This resolution was
unanimously adopted.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 3109 . Application of CUTCHOGUE FREE
LIBRARY, Box 935, Cutchogue, NY for a Special Exception to the Zoning
Ordinance, Article VII, Section 100-70 (B) [1] (a) for permission to use
proposed addition for library use at premises known as 28735 Main
Road, Cutchogue, NY; County Tax Map Parcel No. 1000-102-05-22 and
part of 23 .
The Chairman opened the hearing at 9 :13 p:m. and read the legal
notice of hearing in its entirety and appeal application.
MR. CHAIRMAN: ' You're on again, Mr. Peters.
WILLIAM B. PETERS: Well, you gave us permission to use the
existing building as a library at the last meeting.
MR. CHAIRMAN: That' s correct.
MR. PETERS: With the stipulation that there not be a side
entrance in the existing building. I presume that if you grant
the variance for the front and sideyard setback reductions, that
that will allow us to have an entrance into the library proper on
the east side.
MR. CHAIRMAN: That' s correct.
MR. PETERS: Without that, we' re shot down in flames again.
(Jokingly) .
MR. CHAIRMAN: I think the audience should be aware of the
fact that there are many communications, not only from Mr. Peters
and the other nice lady in the audience, but from the surrounding
property owners, in particular Mr. Lark, which has been the nature
of this discussion tonight and there have been changes of mind
during the period of this and hopefully to everybody' s liking,
so this is the reason why this is the fourth of the four applica-
tions that the Cutchogue Free Library has had before the Zoning
Board of Appeals. So we're all getting a little shell-shocked
and that' s the reason why.
MR. PETERS: . I ' ll have available to you tomorrow copies of
the minutes of the meeting signed by myself and Mr. Lark. I
thought I had given you a copy.
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MR. CHAIRMAN: I believe I had a copy in the prior file.
I had it. I was refreshing my memory before. Do you anticipate--
what do you anticipate as the total occupancy of this library
once the addition is placed?
MR. PETERS: I think we plan on -- I think we were required. to
have one parking space for each five customers and I think we have
seating for--in the adult section we have 4, 8, 12, 16, 17, 19 , 20-
20 people if they were all going to sit here at .once, which meant
that we really would have to have four. parking spaces--then we
figured a staff of three. So on the average there will be seven
parking spaces. Personally if I were going to the library I would
just park on the Main Road. I 'm not sure whether I should say that
or not. Like I do now. So we anticipate parking requirements
as per the code of seven spaces. Since we have an easement to use,
Mr. Lark' s piece, just like he has an easement to use our piece--
I think there is parking for a total of 17 cars back there.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Is there going to be any change in the exterior
walls of the library in any way? The brick that exists now?
MR. PETERS: No, that' s staying. In fact this is all brick.
This will be -- I'm not sure if it' s going to be all brick or
partial brick-partial clapboard, because if you notice we have
windows the entire length of this building. We have closed this
up which was glass and it' s now going to be brick instead.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Thank you very much, Mr. Peters. Is there
anybody else that would like to speak in behalf of this applica-
tion? Anybody wish to speak against the application? (No one)
Hearing no further comments, I ' ll make a motion closing the
hearing and reserving decision. .
MEMBER GRIGONIS: Second.
On motion by Mr. Goehringer, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it was
RESOLVED, to close the hearing and reserve decision until later
in the matter of Appeal No. 3109, application of the CUTCHOGUE FREE
LIBRARY.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Goehringer, Doyen, Grigonis
and Douglass. (Member Sawicki was absent. ) This resolution was
unanimously adopted.
Southold Town Board c-- Appeals -33- August 1983 Regular Meeting
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 3163. Application for MARJORIE
CLUST (SMITH) , by Patricia L. Blake,, as agent, Box 166, Southold,
NY for a Variance to the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section
100-31 for permission to re-divide four subdivision lots which have
become merged, into two separate half-acre lots located at the west
side of Summer Lane and the east side of Cedar Avenue (Lane) ,
Southold, and more particularly identified as Bayside Terrace
Subdivision Map #2034, Subdivision Lots 4, 5, 13 and , 14; County
Tax Map Parcels No. 1000-78-09-4, 5, 12, and 13.
The Chairman opened the hearing at 9 :19 p.m. and read the legal
notice of hearing in its entirety and appeal application.
MR. CHAIRMAN: We have a letter from Patricia L. Blake as
agent which I will. read for the record. (The Chairman read the
letter dated July 29, 1983 in its entirety. ) We have a copy
showing the proposed lots and a copy of the Suffolk County Tax
Map indicating this property and the surrounding properties in
the area. Is there anyone wishing to be heard in behalf of this
application?
MRS. PATRICIA BLAKE: I am the agent,. Mrs. Blake and this
is Mrs. Smith and she is .the' owner of three of these ,1/4-acre
parcels that were merged into one, and she would like to break
the 1/4-acre off so that Mrs. Gadomski can have a half acre and
Mrs. Smith will have a half. acre on Cedar which is a ' saleable lot.
MR. CHAIRMAN: It' s my understanding that the Planning-Board
approved this?
MRS. BLAKE• Yes.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Ok. I ' ll see if anybody has anything they
would like to say. Is there anybody else that would like to
speak in behalf of :this application? Anybody like to speak against
the application? Any questions from any board members? (None)
Hearing no -further questions, I ' ll make a motion approving this
as applied for.
MEMBER GRIGONIS: Second.
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Southold Town Board Appeals -34- August 31 983 Regular Meeting
(Appeal No. 3163 - MARJORIE ,CLUST (SMITH) , continued: )
The board made the following findings and determination:
By this appeal, applicant seeks to .enlarge a parcel presently
12, 000 sq. ft. in area (of C. Gadomski) , along Summer Lane, Subdivision
Lot #13 , to 24 ,000 sq. ft. in area (combining Subdivision Lots #13 and
#14) , and leaving a 24 ,000 sq. ft. in area remaining with Subdivision
Lots #4 and #5, presently of the applicant., along Cedar Avenue. Each
parcel will have a frontage of 200 feet. Subdivision Lot #13 of C.
Gadomski is improved with a one-family dwelling.
By resolution adopted by the Southold Town Planning. Board on
July 25, 1983, the subject re-division of land was approved with
the understanding that Lot #14 shall. not be considered a separate
:building parcel, but rather combined with Lot #13 as one parcel.
It is noted for the record that Subdivision Lot #14 has been referred
to as Lot #12 (in error) in the sub.ject applications.
In considering this appeal, the board determines: (1) that the
variance request is not substantial; (2) that no substantial detriment
to adjoining properties will .be created; (3) that no adverse effects
will be produced on available governmental. facilities of any increased
population; (4) that the relief requested will. be in harmony with and
promote the general purposes of zoning; (5) that the circumstances
herein are unique.; and (6) that the interests of justice will be served
by allowing the variance, as indicated below.
On motion by Mr. Goehringer, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it was
RESOLVED, that Appeal No. 3163, application for MARJORIE CLUST
(SMITH) , by Patricia L. Blake as agent, BE AND HEREBY IS APPROVED AS
APPLIED.
Location of Properties: Bayside Terrace Subdivision Map #2034,
Subdivision Lots 4 and #5, and Lots #13 and #14 ; also identified as
County Tax Map Parcels No. 1000-78-09-004 and 005, and 1000-78-09-
012 and #013, respectively.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Goehringer, Doyen, Grigonis
and Douglass... (Member Sawicki was absent. ) This resolution was
unanimously adopted.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -35- August 31, 1983 Regular Meeting
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 3165. Application for EDWARD J.
and HAZEL K. BOYD, 3880 Robinson Road, Southold, NY by-E.J. Boyd V,
Esq. for a Variance to the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section
100-32 for permission to construct accessory garage/storage build-
ing in the frontyard area of premises known as 3880 Robinson Road,
Southold, NY; County Tax Map Parcel No. 1000-081-03-009 .
The Chairman opened the hearing at 9: 22 p.m. and read the. legal
notice of hearing in its entirety and appeal application.
MR. CHAIRMAN: We have a copy of a survey dated April 9 , 1925
and indicating the existing buildings and dwelling, and the area
where the proposed garage would be placed. I also have a copy of
the details of the garage and building plan at 22 ' by 361 . It
appears it is to be a three-car garage with an entrance toward the
south property line--the structure appears to be approximately four
feet from the--what appears to be the west property line?
MR. EDWARD BOYD V: South. It pretty strang down there. It' s
40° off.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Yes. I have a copy of the Suffolk County Tax
Map indicating this property and the surrounding properties in the
area. Mr. Boyd, would you like to be heard in behalf of this
application?
EDWARD J. BOYD V: I would. I would first like to thank you
gentlemen for putting my application on this evening. I 'm very
anxious to get going in this matter. It came as sort of a surprise
to us that we would need the variance. Here we are, and I would
be happy to answer any questions that you might have about this
application. I believe it speaks fairly well for itself.
MR. CHAIRMAN: The existing structures on the property--
MR. BOYD: Yes, sir.
MR. CHAIRMAN: You have another garage that appears to be in
back of the main house and there' s a building adjacent to that.
MR. BOYD: That is correct.
MR. CHAIRMAN: What is that building?
MR. BOYD: I 'm sort of hard pressed to describe what it is.
I would say a storage shed, a little area in which to sit and open
the three windows and let the breeze come in and read the newspaper.
It is totally unimproved beyond that. There is electricity going
to it, but I don't know if I would dare turn it on because it has
been there for so long. I 'm not sure of the condition of the wires
even in that one. It' s really a storage building.
MR. CHAIRMAN: So we would then be--if we approved this,
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MR. CHAIRMAN continued:
be approving the third storage building?
MR. BOYD: Exactly. It' s all storage. There's nothing else
contemplated at all. As you can see from the plans, it is simply
a garage:
MR. CHAIRMAN: So you have no objection to the restriction that.
it always remain as a storage building.
MR. BOYD: None whatsoever.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Thank you.. Is there anybody else that would like
to be heard in behalf of the application?
(No one)
MR. CHAIRMAN: Would anybody like to speak against the applica-
tion?
(No one)
MR. CHAIRMAN: Hearing no further comments, I ' ll ask the
board members if they have .any questions?
(None)
MR. CHAIRMAN: Hearing no further questions, I ' ll make a motion
approving this as applied for with the restriction, however, that it
always remain as a "storage" building.
MEMBER DOUGLASS: Second.
(Continued on next page)
Southold Town Board of appeals -37- August . 31, 1-7c33 Regular Meeting
(Appeal No. 3165 - EDWARD J. AND HAZEL. K. BOYD,. continued: )
The board made the following findings and determination:
By this appeal, applicants seek to construct a. 22 ' by 36 ' accessory
garage to be located approximately 230 ' from Robinson Road and in the
.frontyard area. Existing' on the premises is a one-family dwelling
house and two accessory buildings also located in the frontyard area.
The premises has frontage along Robinson Road of 154 feet and an average
depth of 573 feet. The rear property line fronts Southold Bay approxi-
mately 150 feet.
The board agrees with the reasoning of applicants and find the
area for the location of this accessory building to be the most
practical under the circumstances.
In considering this appeal, the board determines: (1) that the
variance request is not substantial; (2) that no substantial. detri-
ment to adjoining properties will be created; (3) that no adverse
effects will be. produced on available governmental facilities of any
increased population; (4) that the circumstances are unique; (5) that
the relief. requested will be in harmony with and promote the general
purposes .of zoning, and. (6) that the interests of justice will be
served by allowing the variance, as applied.
On motion by Mr. Goehringer, seconded by Mr. Douglass, it was
RESOLVED, that Appeal No. 3165, application for EDWARD J. and
HAZEL K. BOYD, for permission to construct 22 ' by 36 ' acc.essory
building in the frontyard area, BE AND HEREBY IS APPROVED, PROVIDED
THAT IT BE USED ONLY FOR STORAGE PURPOSES (never as habitable/living
area) .
Location of Property: 3880 Robinson Road, Southold, NY; County
Tax Map Parcel No. 1000-081-03-009.
.Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Goehringer, Doyen, Grigonis,
and Douglass. (Member Sawicki was absent. ) This resolution was
unanimously. adopted.
Mr. Boyd again thanked the board for placing the previous
matter on tonight' s agenda.
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Southold Town Board of Appeals -38- August 31, 1983 Regular Meeting
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: On motion by Mr. Douglass, seconded by
Mr. Grigonis, it was
RESOLVED, to approve the minutes of the meetings held July 28,
1983 (Regular Meeting) , and the Regular Meeting of June 23, 1983.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Goehringer, Doyen, Grigonis
and Douglass. (Member Sawicki was absent [family illness] ) . This
resolution was unanimously adopted.
APPROVAL OF SIGN-RENEWAL REQUESTS: On motion by Mr. Douglass,
seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it was
RESOLVED, to approve the following sign-renewal requests for
a period of one year and subject to the Federal Highway Beautifica-
tion Act and Funding Laws for Highways, when applicable:
Frohnhoefer Electric #1028
Steve Doroski #1029
Russell P. Silleck Agency #1013
Lions Club of Mattituck #1065
Herbert Sanders #1007
SanOSimeon By the Sound #1224
Fleet Lumber #1067
Pawling Views (Greenport Theatre) #1188
Wells Pontiac-Cadillac #1312
Fred Kaelin #1048
Village Marine of Mattituck #1714
Mattituck Inlet Marina and Shipyard #1725
Mattituck Inlet Marina and Shipyard #1321
Mattituck Inlet Marina and Shipyard #1726
Mattituck Inlet Marina and Shipyard #1727.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Goehringer, Doyen, Grigonis
and Douglass. (Member Sawicki was absent [family illness] ) . This
resolution was unanimously adopted.
BUDGET ESTIMATE FOR 1984 : The board members reviewed and
discussed the Chairman' s proposed budget for 1984, and the board
members acquiesced.
PENDING OTHER APPROVALS: On motion by Mr. Douglass, seconded
by Mr. Goehringer, it was
RESOLVED, that Appeal. No.. 3169,.. application of MR. AND MRS.
RALPH MERRILL, be and hereby is held in abeyance pending receipt
of the following:
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Southold Town Board of Appeals -39- August 31, 1983 Regular Meeting
• , (PENDING APPROVALS, continued: )
(a) D.E.C. approval concerning this re-separation of property
pursuant to State Law;
(b) comments, recommendation or approval from the Southold
Town Planning Board concerning the proposed layout of this re-
separation/division of land.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Goehringer, Doyen, Grigonis
and Douglass. (Member Sawicki was absent [family illness] ) . This
resolution was unanimously adopted.
On motion by Mr. Douglass, seconded by Mr. Goehringer, it was
RESOLVED, that Appeal No. 3170, application for DANIEL SHELLEY,
be and hereby is held in abeyance pending receipt of the following:
(a) D.E.C. approval concerning this proposed division of land;
(b) Planning Board comments, recommendations or approval con-
cerning this proposed division of land;
(c) map of the entire right-of-way in question showing the
. legal and improved width and lengths from Oregon Road to proposed
Lot #2;
(d) copy of deed indicating the uses of the rights-of-way
in question.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Goehringer, Doyen, Grigonis
and Douglass. (Member Sawicki was absent [family illness] ) . This
resolution was unanimously adopted.
PENDING APPLICATION: Appeal No. 3078 - SADICK & SCHLUSSEL.
Proposed division into two substandard lots with existing houses
along Eugene' s Creek.
The Chairman.' s reply dated August 25, 1983 to the N.Y.S.
Department of Environmental Conservation letter dated August 22,
1983 was discussed. It was the request of the board that the
amended maps be requested and received before scheduling this
matter for the next Regular Meeting of September 29th. The most
recent map in our file is dated November 11, 1982.
gouthold Town Board of Appeals 740- August 31, 1983 Regular Meeting
NEW HEARINGS FOR NEXT REGULAR MEETING: On motion by Mr.
Douglass, seconded by Mr. Goehringer, it was
RESOLVED, that the following applications be and hereby are
scheduled for Public Hearings to be held at the next Regular Meet-
ing of this, board, to wit, September 29 , 1983, and that notice
of same shall be advertised in the local and official newspapers
pursuant to law:
Appeal No. 3144 - KATHERINE HEINS
Appeal No. 3159- EDWIN W. STEWART
Appeal No. 3166 - HIRAM F. MOODY, JR.
Appeal No. 3167 - ROBERT J.' DOUGLASS
Appeal No. 3168 - JACQUELINE PENNEY
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Goehringer, Doyen, Grigonis
and Douglass. (Member Sawicki was absent [family illness]) . This
resolution was unanimously adopted.
DATE OF NEXT REGULAR MEETING: On motion by Mr. Goehringer,
seconded by Mr. Douglass, it was
RESOLVED, that Thursday, September 29; '1983 commencing at
7: 30 p.m. be scheduled as the date and time of the next Regular
Meeting of this board to be held at the Southold Town Hall_, Main
Road, Southold, NY.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Goehringer, Doyen, Grigonis
and Douglass. (Member Sawicki was absent [family illness] ). . _This
resolution was unanimously adopted.
The board members also tentatively agreed to meet_ on Tuesday,
September 13,. 1983 at a Special Meeting of the board.
ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATIONS: On motion by Mr. Douglass,
seconded by Mr. Goehringer, it was
RESOLVED, to declare the following Negative Environmental
Declarations pursuant to the N.Y. S. Quality Review Act and Local
Law #44-4 of the Town of Southold:
Southold Town Board of ppeals -41- August 37 1983 Regular Meeting
(environmental Declarations, continued: )
• APPEAL NO. : 3144
PROJECT NAME: KATHERINE HEINS
This notice is issued pursuant to Part 617 (and Local Law #44-4)
of the implementing regulations pertaining to Article 8 of the State
Environmental Quality Review Act of the Environmental Conservation Law.
This board determines the within project not to have a significant
adverse effect on the environment. Also, please take notice that this
declaration should not be considered a determination made for any other
department or agency which may also have an application pending for the
same or similar project.
TYPE OF ACTION: [X] Type II [ ] Unlisted [ ]
DESCRIPTION OF ACTION: Re-separate two parcels that have
become merged.
LOCATION OF PROJECT: Town of Southold, County of Suffolk, more
particularly known as: North Side of Main Road, Orient, NY.
REASON (.S) . SUPPORTING THIS DETERMINATION:
(1) An Environmental Assessment in the Short Form has been sub-
mitted which indicates that no significant adverse effects to the
environment are likely to occur should this project be implemented as
planned.
(2) Project in question is not located in a critical-environmental
area.
APPEAL NO. : 3159
PROJECT NAME: EDWIN W. STEWART
This notice is issued pursuant to Part 617 (and Local Law ##44-4)
of the implementing regulations pertaining to Article 8 of the State
Environmental Quality Review Act of the Environmental' Conservation Law.
This board determines the within project not to have a significant
adverse effect on the environment. Also, please take notice that this
declaration should not be considered a determination made for any other
department or agency which may also have an application pending for the
same or similar project:
TYPE OF ACTION: [X] Type II [ ] Unlisted [ ]
DESCRIPTION OF ACTION: Addition reducing rearyard setback. .
LOCATION OF PROJECT : Town of Southold, County of Suffolk, more
particularly known as: 20 Carole Road, Southold, NY.
REASON (S) SUPPORTING THIS DETERMINATION:
(1) An Environmental Assessment in the Short Form has been sub-
mitted which indicates that no significant adverse effects to the
environment are likely to occur should this project be implemented as
planned.
(2) Subject premises is bulkheaded the entire length of the
property.
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Southold Town Board o appeals -42- August 3 1983 Regular Meeting
.� (Environmental Declarations, continued: )
' APPEAL NO. : 3167
PROJECT NAME: ROBERT J. DOUGLASS
This notice is issued pursuant to Part 617 (and Local Law #44-4)
of the implementing regulations pertaining to Article 8 of the State
Environmental Quality Review Act of the Environmental Conservation Law.
This board determines the within project not to have a significant
adverse effect on the environment. Also, please take notice that this
declaration should not be considered a determination made for any other
department or agency which may also have an application pending for the
same or similar project.
TYPE OF ACTION: [X] Type II [ ] Unlisted [ ]
DESCRIPTION OF ACTION: Approval of screening of existing
junkyard.
LOCATION OF PROJECT: Town of Southold, County of Suffolk, more
particularly known as: Willow Terrace, Orient, NY.
REASON (.S) ,SUPPORTING THIS DETERMINATION:
(1) An Environmental Assessment in the Short Form has been sub-
mitted which indicates that no significant adverse effects to the
environment are likely to occur should this project be implemented as
planned.
(2) Project in question is not located in a critical-environmental
area.
APPEAL NO. : #3168
PROJECT NAME: JACQUELINE PENNEY
This notice is issued pursuant to Part 617 (and Local Law #44-4)
of the implementing regulations pertaining to Article 8 of the State
Environmental Quality Review Act of the Environmental Conservation Law.
This board determines the within project not to have a significant
adverse effect on the environment. Also, please take notice that this
declaration should not be considered a determination made for any other
department or agency which may also have an application pending for the
same or similar project:
TYPE OF ACTION: [X] Type II [ ] Unlisted [ ]
DESCRIPTION OF ACTION: 270 North Street, Cutchogue, NY.
Addition reducing sideyard setback.
LOCATION OF PROJECT: Town of Southold, County of Suffolk, more
particularly known as: 270 North Street, Cutchogue, NY; "B-1 Business. "
REASON (S) SUPPORTING THIS DETERMINATION:
(1) An Environmental Assessment in the Short Form has been sub-
mitted which indicates that no significant adverse effects to the
environment are likely to occur should this project be implemented as
planned.
(2) Subject premises is not located in a critical-environmental area.
Southold Town Board oi- __ppeals -43- August 3_, 1983 Regular Meeting
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(Environmental Declarations, continued: )
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Goehringer, Doyen, Grigonis
and Douglass. (Member Sawicki was absent [family illness] ) . This
resolution was unanimously adopted.
Being there was no other business properly coming before the
board at this time, the Chairman declared the meeting adjourned.
The meeting adjourned at approximately 10 :10 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
C-41ina F. Kowalski, Secretary
Southold Town Board of Appeals
'ERARD P. GOEHRIggER, CHAIRMAN
October 198/
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.RECEIVED AND FILED BY
THE SOUTHOLD TOWN CLERK
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Town Clerk, Town of uthold