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SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD
NOVEMBER 6, 1986
EXECUTIVE SESSION
- 9:00 A.M. - Present: Supervisor Francis J. Murphy, Justice Raymond W. Edwards,
Councilman Paul Stoutenburgh, Councilman James A. Schondebare, Councilwoman Jean
W. Cochran, ,Councilman George L. Penny W, Town Clerk Judith T. Terry, Town
Attorney Robert W. Tasker.
The Town. Board met with Justice William H. Price, Jr. to discuss personnel matters.
WORK SESSION
9:40 A.M. - Heather Cusack, who has been contracted by the Town to conduct
a survey of drainage pipes and road runoff problem areas throughout the Town,
met with the Board to review her preliminary findings. She will' be meeting with
the Town Trustees, the Conservation Advisory .Council 'and a representative of
the Town Board to draw up a priority list of the major problem areas and recommen(
tions for corrections to be incorporated in' her final report.
10:00 A.M. - John Hart and his 'client Richard Carr met with the Board to discuss
the comments and a letter submitted to the Town Board by Joseph Onufrack, represent-
ing "Citizens Against. Norris Downzoning. Organization" at the Board's October 21st
meeting. Mr. Carr, is 'the current owner of the "Norris" property located south of
New Suffolk Avenue, on the easterly side of Reeve Avenue (also known as Camp
Mineola Road), Mattituck. Mr. Carr has been meeting with the Planning Board
with respect to his proposal to construct approximately 95 'condominiums on the
parcel in question. Mr. Hart and Mr. Carr assured the Board that the environmental
questions of sewage, water and traffic'impact are being addressed. Mr. Hart presented
his analysis of, surrounding properties which range from one-quarter to 1 acre per
dwelling. He stated the_Carr proposal is 'a logical planning extension. Mr. Carr
advised the Board that to date twenty-five percent of the inquiries for occupancy_ of _
the proposed condominiums have been from local residents. To answer the affordable
housing problem he stated he will'donate the'; value of fifteen lots to an affordable
housing fund. The point was made by Mr. Cam that he started the Planning Board
process in August of .1985. Councilman Stoutenburgh stressed that the density of
the area, as addressed by Mr. Hart, does not mean the Town must perpetuate this
density. . Both Councilmen Penny and Stoutenburgh requested access to the project
as well as site layout and water supply.
10:40 A.M. - Joseph Onufrak and Edward .Siegmann, representing "Citiiens Against
Norris Downzoning. Organization" met with the Board to express their concern for
availability of water to the surrounding properties if the project goes forward. Their
great concern is what this :will' do to the community which is virtually a peninsula of
200 people. The would have no objection to the development of the property on two
acre lots.
11 :05 A.M. - Architect Garrett Strang and low bidder for the kennel area of the
Dog Pound, Richard Saetta, General Contractor, met with the Board to discuss
Mr. Saetta's bid ($51,657. 00) , which did not contain' a bid' bond or other items
required to be submitted with the bid.. It was agreed the Board would waive
the bonds, etc. (see resolution no. 28) , and cover those necessary provisions in'
the contract. Mr. Saetta agreed to prepare the contract for review by Town
Attorney Tasker, providing an alternate for a new water heater, and another
alternate to revamp the electrical service. in the kenneal area. The Board will
review the proposed contract at their November 18th work session.
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11 :30 A.M. - Gladys Csajko, Director_of'`the Dog Pound for the North Fork Animal
Welfare League, Inc. discussed a. prior proposal which had been submitted to the
Board for conducting a dog enumeration throughout the Town. The Board agreed
that they would pay the League a fee of $2.50. per dog (see resolution no. 27) for
this service. At the present. time the Town has a $2.50 local fee included in the
dog licensing fee and this revenue would be used to reimburse the League.
11 :.45 A.M. - Executive Administrator Victor Lessard and Randall J. Feinberg met
with the. Board. to discuss Mr. Feinberg's agricultural property located on the south
side of Sound Avenue., Mattituck. Mr. Feinberg explained that the building had
been used for 20 to .25 'years as a potato grading station and he would like to continue
the present use of commercial' agriculture. ' Town Attorney Tasker advised Mr. Feinberg
that he should make an application to the Board of Appeals for a variance for non-
agricultural. commercial' purposes.
11 :55 A.M. - Executive Administrator Lessard discussed the Howard M. Petersen
trailer renewal application with the Board. Building Inspectors; Horton _and: Fisher:
made an inspection of the trailer and site and found the trailer located in'the proper
position, and water, electric and sewer properly installed. However, they found_ a
large-wooden deck had been built across the front of the trailer and a large wooden
screen approximately eight foot high to the north of the deck. A building permit
had not been obtained for the construction. The Board instructed Mr. Lessard to
meet with Mr. Petersen regarding the. violations and report back to the Board and
they will' reconsider the renewal application.--At this 'time the Board discussed with
Mr.. Lessard the application of Frank and Robert Klos for the location of a watchman
house. trailer at their auto body repair shop, Ted's Auto Body, at Peconic. This
property is zoned "B" (200. ft. from Route 251 and "A". Mr. Lessard recommended
the proposed trailer be located within the "B" zone, parallel to the one-story block
body shop building, and the Board stated they would reconsider the application if
the applicants provided Suffolk County Health Department approval for well and
cesspool.--Also discussed 'with Mr. Lessard roof coating for the Senior/Youth Center.
Correspondence has been received from Pace Products, Inc. recommending Silverleaf
Roof Coating, Gilsonite Asphalt base, reinforced with non-wicking fiberglass,
siliconized for penetration, .with a built=in primer for one coat application. ' This
proposal will' be transmitted to Fairweather-Brown for review and recommendations.
EXECUTIVE SESSION
12:40 P.M. -. Thee: Board discussed possible acquisition of certain.' parcels of property,'
and the current status of PBA negotiations. -
1 :00 P.M. - Recess for .lunch. —
2: 10 P.M. - The Work Session reconvened and the Board met with Gary Loesch,
P.M. , Holzmacher, McLendon & Murrell, P.C. to discuss his study of the need
for a compacting-tractor for the Southold Town Landfill' at Cutchogue. His 'report
examined the advantages and disadvantages, and included a cost analysis. He
found four manufacturers of a machine which he concluded would extend the useful
life of landfill sites because they compact more refuse per cubic yard than other
methods of compaction; would reduce cover material requirements; minimize windblow
litter, minimize spontaneous combustion and the number of rodent and insect breed-
ing place; compact bulk materials prior to transport, thereby decreasing the number
of required trips. The disadvantages would be initial' capital cost in'-comparison to
alternative machinery; and operating and maintenance costs in' comparison to alternate
machinery. In developing a cost analysis based upon all the factors involved, over a
four year period Mr. Loesch estimates the Town would save approximately $280, 000.
by purchasing _the compactor-tractor.--Mr. :Loesch further recommended strongly that
the Town purchase a scale for the LandfilF site, which is *necessary to get a better
handle on what is 'coming into the disposal area in' terms of brush and potential
recycables. Such a scale would cost approximately $145,000, which would also
include a scale house and data management program. "A similar scale has recently
been completed in.Southampton: The Board discussed. with Mr. Loesch their proposed
trip to Tyler,. Texas to 'investigage the Eweson Digestor which is *,in operation .there.
George Desmarias of H2M will accompany the Board on this trip. With respect to the
possible digestor project for the. Landfill; . Mr. Loesch recommended the Board begin.
the preparation of a Draft Environmental Impact Statement and start the scoping
meetings on the DEIS, since there is a project 15 month time span between the start
of the process and a recommendation from H2M of the vendor. Mr. Loesch's recommender
second alternative to a digestor would be waste distillation, but there are certain' risks,
and there are not enough plants on line to base a comparison on.--The Board agreed
to advertise for bids for the purchase of the compactor-tractor (see resolutions no.
12 E13). Mr. Loesch was asked to submit a proposal for the installation of a scale
at the Landfill.
3:05 P.M. - Recess for a public hearing on the Preliminary 1987 Budget and the
proposed use of Federal Revenue Sharing Funds for 1987.
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3: 30 P.M. - Work Session reconvened. For Discussion Items: (3) Letter from
Senior Account Clerk Joan Richter requesting that Account Clerk Betty Wells be
advanced to a higher job title, and Ortrud Hanus, part-time clerk receive an
increase in salary. This request will be addressed by the Labor Management
Committee. - '(5) Proposed creation of the position of Maintenance Mechanic IV -
Labor Management Committee. (6) Letter from Account Clerk Betty Wells request-
ing consideration for promotion to Principal Account Clerk with commensurate raise
in salary (Mrs. Wells is -currently on the Civil Service list for Principal Account
Clerk)- Labor Management Committee. (7) Correspondence with relation to Historic
Preservation codes (East Hampton and Southampton) , and from Southold Town Land-
mark Preservation Commission member Joy Bear transmitting a letter from Barbara
Van Liew, Society for the Preservation of Long Island Antiques, concerning the
demolition of the Hartranft house on Main Road, Southold, which was built circa
1757. Ms. Van Liew states ih' her letter that the house -was historic'and of
archaeological significance, therefore the NYS-SEQRA regulations require an
environmental impact statement to be prepared before any, agency gives permission
for the site. The Southold Town Landmark Preservation Law does not make this
provision, and the Board wilF-meet with the Landmark Preservation Commission at
their November 18th meeting to discuss the limitations of the Southold law. (9)
Request of Councilman Stoutenburgh that Cablevision be made to install underground
lines in' subdivisions, and comments by the Planning Board that UtCO requires a
fee for installation in'developments and reimburses the developer 60 ft. per house
when the house is 'put on line; NY Telephone requires a fee per house for installa-
tion and reimburses the entire fee, with interest, when each house is 'put on line.
They recommend that the Board renegotiate the agreement with Cablevision, which
is 'not a necessity. but. a luxury. The current.contract, specifies that in the case
of new underground construction the town shall require the developer/property
owner to provide the placement of cable television facilities. Cablevisioh states
that similar prociedures were implemented and are now working successfully within'
Southampton Town and assured the Board they would help assist the developers
in the placement of the CATV facilities, but would need the Planning Board's help
in' making it a mandatory requirement. (10) Councilman Stoutenburgh proposed
a further resolution for the regular meeticng agenda (no. 30) requesting the Board
of Ethics to review the various Ethics Codes on the East End and that of Suffolk
County, and incorporate the best from these codes in' Southold's code.
3:55 P.M. - Water Advisory Committee members Frank Bear, Ruth Oliva and Robert
Villa met with the. Board to request authorization to create a program that would
provide a Water Resource Management Plan for the Town (see resolution no. 31) .
The Board agreed to the proposal and .suggested that a completion time of .six
months from this date be inserted in' the resolution.
4:20 P.M. - The Board reviewed the regular meeting agenda resolutions and conducted
the audit 'of the outstanding vouchers.
5:25 P.M. - Assessor Scott Harris met with the Board to protest an error made
by The North Fork. Bank 8 Trust Co. with respect to direct deposit 'of the payroll
checks for certain employees. The checks dated November 1st were not credited
to the 16 accounts in'question until 'November 5th, The Board assured Mr. Harris
that this error was acknowledged by the bank and every effort will' be made .to
assure it does not happen again'.
5:30 P.M. - Work Session adjourned.
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NOVEMBER 6, 1986
REGULAR MEETING
7:30 P.M.
A Regular Meeting of the Southold Town Board was held on Thursday,November
6,' 1986 at the Southold Town Hall, Maine Road, Southold, New York. Supervisor
Murphy opened the meeting at 7:30 P.M. with the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.
Present: Supervisor Francis �J. Murphy
Justice Raymond W. Edwards
Councilman Paul Stoutenburgh
Councilman James A. Schondebare
Councilwoman Jean W. Cochran
Councilman George L. Penny IV
Town Clerk Judith T. Terry
Town Attorney Robert W. Tasker
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Good evening. I'd like to welcome everyone here tonight.
1 would like first a resolution approving the audit 'of the bills of November 6th.
Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by Councilman Stoutenburgh, it was
RESOLVED that the following audited bills be and hereby are ordered paid: General -
Fund Whole Town bills in' the amount of $29,708.55; General Fund Part Town bills in'
the amount of $13,242. 40; Highway Department bills in the amount of $6,734. 87;
Fishers Island Ferry District bills in' the amount of $18,576.70;' Agricultural Land
Development Rights Capital Account. bills in' the amount of $588. 00; Southold Waste-
water Treatment Plant Capital Account bills in the amount of $11,573. 97; Southold
Wastewater District bills in the amount of $18',903.55; Senior/Youth Center Capital
Account bills in the amount of $26,465'.'00.
Vote of the Town Board : Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council-:.
man Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy.
This ' resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Next a resolution approving the minutes of the regular
meeting of. October 21st, 11986 and the special meetings of October 30th, 1986 and
November 3rd, 1986.
Moved by Councilman Penny, seconded by Justice Edwards, it 'was
RESOLVED that the minutes of the Regular Southold Town Board meeting held on
October 21, 1986 ; and the Special Southold Town Board meeting of October 30, 1986,
and the Special Southold Town Board ng of November 3, 1986, be and hereby
approved as submitted.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes : Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council-'
man Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Next is a resolution setting the next meeting date for
November 18th, 1986, 7:00 P.M. , Southold Town Hall.
Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh, seconded by Justice Edwards; it was
RESOLVED that the next Regular meeting of the Southold Town Board will' be held
at 7:00 P.M. , Tuesday, November 18, -1986 at the Southold Town Hall, Main' Road,
Southold, New York.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council-'
man Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
1 . REPORTS.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: The first item on your agenda are Reports. I'd. like to
remind everybody these reports are on file' in the Town Clerk's Office for anyone
who wants to look at them at any time.
1. Szepatowski Associates - monthly report for September 1986.
2. Town Justice Edwards - monthly report for September 1986.
3. Building Inspector's .monthly report for October 1986.
4. Town Clerk Terry - monthly report for October 1986.
5. Councilmen's reports. At this time I would like to ask the Councilmen
if they have anything to report, starting on my left with Judge Edwards.
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JUSTICE EDWARDS: Nothing at this time. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Jean?
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN : -Yes, 1 would like to report that in' addition to attending
budget meetings that I had. the pleasure .of traveling with Paul and Frank last week
to Camden, New Jersey to view a recycling plant. I would just like to share with you
some of the interesting points,: one of which is 'Rhode Island and Massachusetts, they
are going to mandatory state-w.ide law on recycling. It was interesting to note that
the gentleman that owns this recycling plant in Camden, New Jersey--and his 'name
escapes me--. ,
SUPERVISOR MURPHY : Peter Carter..
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN : Peter Carter--also owns a recycling plant in Groton,
Connectituct, and it 'was- interesting to note that the Connecticut plant receives
more glass than it does cans because of the deposit law.. Jersey does not have a
five cent deposit law. Also, we met with these gentlemen and took a tour of the
plant and then we sat down and chatted about different things. But it 'was interest-
ing--they do have the markets as far as glass, paper, aluminum in that area. Part
of it was interesting in relation to that as the market. grows there's more and more
of a demand for this recycling products, and as the market grows the demand becomes
stronger for a higher quality, less paper involved with the crushed glass, and of
course they do the glass separation. ' There, was a great big' trailer truck that was
interesting and we heard this "plunk", "plunk", "plunk" and there's like a big' funnel
hose and :the aluminum cans are being crushed and then they're shot into the back
of this great big Reynolds. truck. . The gentleman said that a fact to consider if you
go into a recycling program is 'the cost--you figure the cost of getting rid'of the
garbage against the cost of what the recycling--what expense the recycling would
be. He said originally when recycling started it was viewed as a conservation type
concept, but the concept now that recycling. is 'used for is 'to get rid' of garbage,
period. Also mentioned was that Claire-Rose, who is a beverage dealer, Budwiser'
Beer, I believe, in the Patchogue area, has built a recycling plant and the engineer
from Islip, I believe it was that was with us, said! that this 'was a worthwhile plant
to go visit, so I would like to take that little trip' some day. Also as far as bottles
and cans filling your landfill, he said''the way to compute that, to give you a general
idea of what's .being'deposited there, would be to multiple the population times 100
pounds a year and this 'is 'the capacity of cans .and bottles that are going to your
landfill that could be reduction as far as a recycling program. Also I had the
opportunity to attend--Ma_ttituck had a Superintendent's Conference Day under the _
auspice of the Matti tuck-Cutchogue School and the topic 'was "Youth. in' Crisis", and
that was held this past Tuesday, and the keynote speaker was a woman by the name.
of Sadie'Hoffstein who is -the Executive Director of Mental Health from Nassau County.
She was an excellent, excellent speaker and I would just take a moment to share with
you some of what she sees as some of the problems facing our young people today.
We have many societal problems that our young people today are having to face in'
growing up, and much of this is 'brought about by economic 'stress on young people
in relation to their parents are not having today what they had forseen they might
have. Say, a perfect example would be a home. We have many people.who do not
have homes because they cannot afford them.- This 'is 'an economic'stress on the
parent that is 'passed to the child. Another thing that concerns our young people
today, or is one of the problems they have to deal with, is 'the nuclear age. Another
concept in relation to children is 'the loss of childhood. Many, many parents in`
today's world put the pressure on young people to grow up faster than we did'to
children years ago, and there is 'a whole concept and theory on loss of childhood
to young people today. Also they have the problems--they're facing problems in'
relation to drugs. I think to capsule her speech, and she was excellent, was a
quote that she used and she "felt that children today are not getting a fair'share
of America's bounty". And if''you think about that, it's a pretty good quote. Also
last night l had the pleasure to attend the League of Women Voter's program on the
future of Southold, which was interesting, and they are going to be running a series
of programs in relation to this.' ' Thank you, Frank. It's been busy.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY:. Thank you, Jean. Paul?
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH : Yes, 1 was with Jean on this 'trip' to Camden, and
just two things, in the future New York State DEC will not okay any landfill that
does not have a recycling concept built' into it.' So New York State is 'definitely
going to be in' the recycling business. And one of the interesting things we also
saw, and Jean spoke about these piles of cans and bottles and glass and what have
you, there was a pile probably half the size of this 'room of crushed cans that they
couldn't get rid of, and what it 'happened to be is 'a aluminum can with a steel top,
and they were forced--the industry was forced into this because nobody wanted to
have the old fashioned opener. In other words the cheapest container is 'an all-steel
container, but were a lazy society and we don't want to get the old can opener out
and open the beer can or what have you, we want the flip-top lid',. and the only .one
you can do is with aluminum, and when you mix aluminum top with a metal side nobody
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wants it. So you see there are all ki'nd's _of: ramifications to these recycling and problems
that we're coming into, so it gives you a good idea that we're working our way through
some very, very difficult times. I .was to the budget meetings, of course, and I also
attended the League of Women Voter's program they had the other night. Very
interesting about expanding problems of towns. We're all familiar with them, but
it's good to see that the community is starting to awaken,. and I think one of the key
things they brought there was the problem of traffic,' and we all know what that's
like in' the summertime, and how do we handle it when we are down the road the
year 2000. 1 also sat in on an Ethics Committee meetin , which was the first one
they've pulled together, and I think we're asking them, and we'll have a resolution
on the Board to update our Ethics Code, and only update it in the sense of
reviewing what other towns have done and see if our Code is 'adequate for
today's times. It's merely a reviewing process. And 'that's about it Frank.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY : Thank you, Paul. Jay 7
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Yes, thank you. Like other Board members we've
been doing the budget, budget, budget. We still don't like the budget. We've
already meta We've already changed it amongst ourselves. . We'll be meeting again.
We'll be changing it again. I know there's a public'hearing on tonight for budget,
but we've been diligently changing it 'all around again' because we still dont' like-
it. There are some of us going down to Texas on Monday, and coming back on
Tuesday, and,'like everything else it deals with the Landfill. And we're going
down there to talke a look at the system which is 'called a digestor, for possible
use here in the Town of Southold. The biggest thing .confronting this 'Town right
now is the Landfill: Thank you, Frank.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Thank you, Jay. George?
COUNCILMAN PENNY: Yes. It's been exactly budget, budget, budget, three
budget meetings, and a. Board of Ethics meeting which was already reported on.
On the 28th PBA negotiations, which are,.still top secret. On the 3rd Water Advisory
Committee, which Paul. has already reported on, and last night on the 5th we .were
reviewing the budget again as to raising some of the departmental fees, and we're
trying to throw the burden of Building Department and Planning Board on the users.
It's a good concept. We're letting the developers pay the cost so it doesn't go into
general taxation. The. Building Department fees are quite low and it's costing us
more and more with the series of inspections that have to be made, so we're going
to be revamping those fees and we're making a recommendation to the Trustees and
the Planning Board to raise some of their fees too. We want to cover the--let the
users of these services be paying for them so it doesn't fall back on general taxation.
Hopefully we're going to be revamping, or coating up with a new program on the
dump as far as a lot of the extra tonage of brush that's carried in` by major developers
and major carters, and this could provide quite a revenue for the Town, and this '
would offset a fairly large increase in'.taxes. So the budget that you have seen in'
the paper and, hear about is not the budget that's .going to be in its final form. It
(should be quite a bit lower. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Thank you, George. I would just like to add to what every-
one has said: Our most important problem, . as we all realize, is 'the Landfill; and
the costs are going to be exorbitant and I'm very happy to see that we are moving
along, going down to Camden to see a recycling. The least you have to bury, ship;
burn, shoot to the Moon, whatever it `is.' the cheaper it's going to be for the Town.
And there are markets, and things can be developed. The process that the Town
Board will see down in'Texas is a very interesting concept, one that I feel has great
promise for the Town, because we've got to do something because the cost, as I say,
are staggering. I also attended with Jean that Mattituck High School program where
all the East End schools participated, and just like .to take my hat off to the school
districts for doing these type of things. To make their teachers aware, make parents
aware, make students aware, and to try to work out problems, not just to sit back
and do nothing. We've been very busy on the bum, and I'm very happy to say
that probably the final budget that will.' be adopted by the .Town will be much less
than this Preliminary Budget that we are having public hearings on tonight.
II. PUBLIC NOTICES.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Moving on to the second item on our agenda are Public;
Notices.
1. New York State Department of Environmental Conservation, notice of
complete applicastion by North Fork Country. Club to construct a well and pump
for the new clubhouse, Cutchogue. Written comments by November 14, '1986.'
2. Southold Town Highway Department "Clean Up Week" , November 17th .
through the 21st.
3. The week of November 16th through the 22nd is Substance Abuse Awarer, ss
Week in Southold Town, and there's various programs going on Monday through
Friday. Information has gone out into the papers. As many people to partake in'
these programs we would appreciate. On Monday through Friday. at 10:00 A.M.
there's films and coffee break. There's a party and awards night on Friday, Nov-
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ember 21st, 7:30 to 11 :00, and Run the Gauntlet on Friday, November 21st at
Greenport High School, 12:00 to 2:00 and 5:00 to 7:00, and all the schools are
participating in' this too. This is 'a most serious problem in all towns, I think, in
this 'whole area, probably in the whole country.
111. COMMUNICATIONS.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY : Communications:, item number 111.
1. From John- Skabry concerning lighting on the new gas station on Route
48. We are taking this into consideration and talking to the Planning Board.
2. . A very nice letter from the combined Senior Clubs, the presidents of
the three clubs, thanking the Town Board for their'concern and support during
the period of time that the Rec Center was closed for repairs and our cooperation
with them. They've certainly done an awful lot for us.
IV. PUBLIC HEARINGS.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY : We have three public hearings scheduled for tonight at
8:0,0 o'clock: 8:00 P.M. - Preliminary 1987 Budget.` 8:05 P.M. - Intended Use
of Federal Revenue Sharing for 1987.. 8: 10 P.M. - a proposed "Local Law in
relation to parking restrictions."
V. RESOLUTIONS.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY : We'll .move on to Item V, Resolutions. The policy of the
Board--we have many new people here tonight--the policy of the Board is you do
have an opportunity to address the Board before resolutions are presented, only
on items that are resolutions tonight. At the end of the resolutions, after the
meeting, there will be an opportunity for anyone to address the Board on any
other matter. There is a public'hearing tonight, also at 8:00 o'clock, the reopening
of a public hearing for anyone who wants to talk on the budget. So at this 'time _
I would like to ask anyone who would like to talk on a proposed resolution. One
resolution was taken off of the agenda today, and that was a proposed change of
zone concerning the Carr property, and it is 'not on, so we will' not discuss that
now. If anyone wants to they can .discuss it after the resolutions are' done. So
on the left side does anyone like to address the Board on any of the proposed -
resolutions? (No response.) In the middle? (No response.) On the right? (No
response.) If not, Jay?
1. Moved by Councilman Schondebare, seconded by Councilman Stoutenburgh,
WHEREAS, the Town Board, pursuant to Section 100-150A of the Southold Town Code,
on its own motion, proposes to change the zoning classification from "M" Light Multiple
Residence District to "A" Residential and Agricultural District on the real -property
located at the southeasterly corner of County Route 48 and Moores Lane, Greenport,
comprising 49-acres, more or less of land, and shown on the Suffolk County Tax Map
as District .1000,. Section 040, Block 5,' Lot 1, said' premises being more particularly
bounded and described as follows, to wit:
BEGINNING at the point of intersection of the easterly line of Moores Lane with
the southerly line of Middle Road (County Road 48) , said' point being the northwesterly
corner of the premises herein described; running thence along said:southerly line of
Middle Road three courses : : (1) North 66 degrees, '09 minutes, 10 seconds East' 96.61
feet; thence (2) North '69 degrees, 02. minutes 10, seconds East 985. 10 feet; thence
(3) North 71 degrees 28 minutes 20 'seconds East 312. 64 feet to the westerly line of a
subdivision known as "Fleetfield"; thence along said .westerly line of "Fleetfiel'd",
South 16 degrees, 01 minutes, 50 seconds East 1450. 11 feet to land of Village of
Greenport; thence along said land of Village of Greenport, two courses: (1) South 58
degrees,. 15 minutes 00 seconds West 714. 04 feet; thence (2) South 74 degrees, 45
minutes, 00 seconds West 670. 00 feet to said' easterly line of Moores Lane; thence
along said' easterly line of Moores Lane, North 17 degrees, 15 'minutes, 00. seconds
West 1523.22 feet to the point of BEGINNING. Containing 48.719& acres.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED AS FOLLOWS:
1. That pursuant to the provisions of Section 100-150B of the.Southold Town
Code the Town Clerk be and she hereby is 'directed to transmit a certified copy of
this resolution to the Southold Town Planning Board, together with instructions to
said board to prepare an official report together with its recommendations, all pursuant
to said Code.
2. That the Town Clerk is 'hereby directed to..transmit 'a certified copy of this
resolution to the Suffolk County Planning Commission, together with such maps,
documents and information as it may require, and request said' Commission to make
written recommendations with respect thereto pursuant to the provisions of the Suffolk
County Charter.
1.-Vote of the Town Board : Ayes : Councilman Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh,
Supervisor Murphy. Noes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Justice Edwards.
This resolution was declared LOST.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY : Number 2 is 'a trailer permit 'renewal.
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2. Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded-by`CouncilwomFi Cochran, it 'was
RESOLVED that the application of Ange and Barbara Boursigbot for renewal of a
single family house trailer permit, for trailer located at private road, off of the
north side of Main Road, Mattituck, New York, which permit expired on November
4, 1986,' be and hereby is ranted for a six' (6) month period.
2.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes : Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council-'
man Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy.
This 'resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 3 is another trailer permit renewal.
3. Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the application of George A. McCarthy for renewal of a single
family house trailer permit, for trailer located at private road, off of the south
side of Main Road, Laurel, New York, which permit expires on November 10, 1986,
be and hereby is ' rg anted for a six (6) month period.
3.-Vote of the Town Board : Ayes : Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council-
man Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 4 is 'to execute an agreement.
4. Moved by Councilman Schondebare, seconded by Councilman Penny, it 'was
RESOLVED. that 'the Town Board of the( Town of Southold hereby authorizes and
directs Supervisor Francis 'J. Murphy to execute a supplemental agreement for the
Community Development Block Grant Program, which agreements are addendums to
the Fiscal Year :1986 'Community Development Block Grant agreements, and cover
additional entitlement money to be received from HUD in the amount of $29,000. 00.
4.-Vote of the Town Board : Ayes : Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council-*
man Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenbu-rgh, Justice Edwards, Sup-ervisor Murphy.
This .resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 5 'is another trailer permit 'renewal.
5. Moved by Councilman Penny, seconded by Councilwoman. Cochran, it was
RESOLVED that the application of David S. Horton for renewal of a single family
house trailer permit, for trailer located on Kirkup Lane, Mattituck, New York,
which .permit expires on November 7, .1986, be and hereby is rg anted for a six' (6)
month period.
5.-Vote of the Town Board : Ayes : Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council-'
man Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice. Edwards, Supervisor Murphy.
This ' resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 6 is 'the authorization to reduce a Letter of Credit.'
6. Moved by Just ce Edwards, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran, it 'was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the
reduction of the Letter of Credit 'for major subdivision known as "Grandview
Estates" located at Orient, from $325,000. 00 to $104,500. 00, all in accordance
with the recommendation of the Southold Town Planning Board :and Inspector John
W. Davis.'
6.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes : Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council-'
man Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 7 is 'to authorize another reduction in a Letter of
Credit:
7. Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the
reduction in the Letter of Credit 'for major subdivision known as "Hillcrest Estates,
Section I" located at Orient, from $400,000. 00 to $329,400. 00, all in accordance with
the recommendation of the Southold Town Planning Board and Inspector John W. Davis.
7.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes : Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council-
man Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 8 is 'a negative declaration.
8. Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by Councilman Penny, it was
RESOLVED that pursuant to Article 8 of the Environmental Conservation Law, State
Environmental Quality Review, and 6NYCRR Part 617, Section 617. 10 and Chapter
44 of the Code of the Town of Southold, notice is 'hereby given that the Southold
Town Board, as lead agency for the action described below, has determined that
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the project, which is unlisted, will not have a significant effect on the environment.
Description of Action : Proposed Local Law entitled, "A Local Law in' relation to
affordable housing. " .
The project has been determined not to have a significant effect on the environ-
ment because an environmental assessment has been submitted which indicated that-
no significant adverse effect to the environment are likely to occur should the project
be implemented as planned, and because there has been no. response in' the allotted
time from the New York State Department of Environmental Conservastion, it 'is assumed
that there are no objections nor comments from that agency..
8.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes : Councilman .Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council-
man Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared' duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 9 is 'a decision on a Local Law.
- 9. Moved by Councilman Penny, seconded ,by Councilwoman Cochran,
WHEREAS, a proposed Local Law No. - '1986 was introduced at a meeting of this
Board held on the 23rd day of September, 1986, and
WHEREAS, a public hearing was held thereon by this 'Board on the 21st day of
October, :1986, at which time all .interested persons were given an opportunity to
be"heard thereon, now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED that Local Law No. - :1986 be enacted as follows;
LOCAL LAW NO. - 1986
A Local Law in relation to affordable housing
BE IT ENACTED BY THE Town Board of the Town of Southold as follows:
(additions indicated by underline; deletions by [brackets])
I. Chapter 100 .(Zoning) ,: Article VA, Section 100-55.7C(2) of the Code of the
Town of Southold is amended as follows:
(2) On land within an AHD District containing more than ten. (1:0) acres of
land, [the number] not less than fifty (50%) percent of the dwelling
units [and] and/or unimproved lots therein, [to] shall be reserved for
sale or lease to moderate income families . [shall be as follows:
(a) Not less than ten (100) percent of the dwelling units shall be
reserved for lease to moderate income families.
(b) Not less than ten (1"0%) percent of the dwelling units shall be
attached dwelling units reserved for sale to moderate income
families.
(c) Not less than twenty (20%) percent of the dwelling units shall
be one-family detached dwelling units reserved .for sale to
moderate income families.
(d) Not less than ten ( 10%) percent of the unimproved lots therein'
shall be reserved for sale to moderate income families. ]
11. This local law shall take effect upon its filing with the Secretary of State.
9.-Vote of the Town Board : Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Justice
Edwards. Noes: Councilman Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Supervisor
Murphy.
This resolution was declared LOST. .
SUPERVISOR MURPHY : Number 10 is to advertise for bids.
10. Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and
directs the Town Clerk to advertise for bids for the purchase and installation of
carpeting within certain' areas of the Southold Town Hall (Supervisor's Office,
Hallway, Tax Receiver's Office) .
10.-Vote of the Town Board : Ayes : Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council-'
man Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 11 is to execute an application for a proposed grant.
11. Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran, it 'was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and
directs Supervisor Francis 'J. Murphy to execute an application to -the New York
State Division for Youth for the '1987 Recreation Grant.
11.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council-
man Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: . Number 12 is to authorize a bond resolution for a compactor.
12. Moved by Councilman Schondebare, seconded by Councilman Stoutenburgh,
BOND RESOLUTION OF THE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD, NEW YORK, ADOPTED NOVEMBER
6, 1986, AUTHORIZING THE PURCHASE OF A COMPACTOR-TRACTOR, STATING THE
ESTIMATED MAXIMUM COST THEREOF IS $175,000, APPROPRIATING SAID AMOUNT
THEREFOR, _AND AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF $175,000 SERIAL BONDS OF SAID
TOWN TO FINANCE SAID. APPROPRIATION .
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The Town Board of the Town of Southold, in: the.the_. County of Suffolk, New York,
hereby RESOLVED (by the favorable vote of not less than two-thirds.of all the members
of said Town Board) AS FOLLOWS:
Section 1. The Town of Southold, in the County of Suffolk, New York (herein
called "Town") , is hereby authorized to, purchase a compactor-tractor for the Town
landfill. The estimated maximum cost of said specific object, including preliminary
costws and. costs incidental thereto and the financing thereof, is $175, 000 and said
amount is hereby appropriated therefor. The plan of financing includes the issuance
of $175,000 serial bonds of the Town to finance said appropriation, and the levy and
collection of taxes on all the taxable real property in' the Town to pay the principal
of said bonds and the interest thereon as the same shall become due and payable. ..
secton 2.. Serial bonds of the Town in the principal amount of $175,000, are
hereby authorized to be issued pursuant to the provisions of the Local Finance Law,
constituting Chapter 33-a of the Consolidated Laws of the State of New York . (herein'
called "Law') to. finance said appropriation.
Section 3. . The following additional matters are hereby determined and declared:
(a) The period of probable usefulness of said specific'object for which
said' $175,000 serial bonds authorized pursuant to this resolution are to be issued,
within the limitations of Section 11. 00. a. 28 of the Law, is fifteen (15) . years; however
the bonds authorized pursuant to this 'resolution or bond anticipated notes issued in:
anticipation of the sale of such bonds shall mature no later than five (5) years from
the date of original issue of such bonds or notes, whichever date isearlier.
(b) Current funds are not required by the Law to be provided as a down
payment prior to the issuance of the bonds authorized by this ' resolution or any bond
anticipation notes issued in anticipation thereof in accordance with Section 107. 00
d. 4 of the Law.
(c) The proposed maturity of the bonds authorized by this resolution will '
not exceed five (5) years.
Section 4. Each of the bonds authorized by this resolution and any bond
anticipation notes issued in anticipation of the sale of said bonds shall contain the
recital of validity as prescribed by Section 52. 00 of the Law and said bonds and any
notes issued in anticipation of said bonds,.-shall be general obligastions of the Town,
payable as to both principal and interest by general tax upon all the taxable real
property within the Town without limitation of rate or amount. The faith and credit
of the Town are hereby irrevocably pledged to the punctual payment of the. principal
of and interest on said' bonds and any notes issued in' anticipation of the sale of said
bonds and provision shall be made annually in the budget of the Town by appropriation
for (a) the amortization and redemption of the bonds and any notes in'anticipatioh
thereof to mature in such year and (b) the payment of interest to be due and payable
in such year.
Section 5. Subject to the provisions of this. resolution and of the Law and
pursuant to the provisions of Section 30. 00 relative to the authorization of the
issuance of bond anticipation notes and of Section 50. 00 and Sections 56.'00. to 60. 00 ..
of the Law, the powers and duties of the Town Board relative to authorizing bond
anticipation notes and prescribing the terms, form and contents and as to the sale
and issuance of the bonds herein authorized and of any bond anticipation notes issued
in anticipation of said bonds, and the renewals of said I notes, are hereby delegated to.
the Supervisor, the chief fiscal officer of the. Town.
Section 6., The validity of the bonds authorized by this 'resolution and of any
notes issued in anticipation of the sale of said bonds, may be contested only if.-
(a) such obligations are authorized for an object or purpose for which
the Town is 'not authorized to expend money, or
(b) the provisions of law which should be complied .with at the date of
the publication of such resolution are not substantially complied with,
and an action, suit or proceeding contesting such validity, is commenced
within twnety days after the date of such publication, or
(c) such obligations are authorized in violation of the provisions of the
constitution.
Section 7.=- This bond resolution shall take effect immediately, and the Town
Clerk is hereby authorized and directed to publish the foregoing resolution, in full,
together with a. Notice attached in substantially the form prescribed by S81. 00 of
the Law in� "The Long Island Traveler-Watchman," a newspaper published in Southold,
New York, and the "Suffolk Times," a newspaper published in Greenport, New York,
two newspapers having a general circulation in' the Town and hereby designated the
official newspapers of said Town for such publication.
12.-Vote of the Town Board : Ayes : Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council-
man Schondebare,- Councilman Stoutenburgh, Supervisor Murphy. No: Justice Edwards.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY : Number 13 is to advertise for bids for the purchase, of a
compacting machine.
13. Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by Councilman Stoutenburgh, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and
directs the Town Clerk to advertise_ for bids for the purchase of a compactor-tractor
for the Southold Town Landfill site at Peconic, New York.
13.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes : Councilman Penny,_Councilwoman Cochran, Council-
man Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Supervisor Murphy. No: Justice Edwards.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
NOVEMBER 6, 1986
SUPERVISOR MURPHY : Number 14 is to grant permission to attend a conference.
14. Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded by Councilman Penny, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants permission
to Public Safety Dispatchers John Raynor and Claude Kumjian to attend a meeting
of the Advisory Committee of the New York State Police Identification Network (NYSPIN)
at Albany, New York, on November 24 and November 25, 1986, and the actual expenses
for travel, meals and lodging shall be a legal charge against the Town of Southold.
14.-Vote of the Town Board : Ayes : Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council
man Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 15 'is to authorize an advance of Community
Development Funds.
15. Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the
advance of Community Development_.Funds in the amount of $2, 321.40 to pay the
bill of C. P. Tuthill, Inc. for work performed on the Laurel Lake/Chamber Project_.
.15.-Vote of the Town Board : Ayes : Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council-
man Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 16 is 'to authorize the execution of a new Pole
Attachment Agreement between the Town and. Telephone Company. I offer that
resolution.
16. Moved by Supervisor Murphy, seconded by Councilman Stoutenburgh, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and
directs Supervisor Francis J. Murphy to execute a new Pole Attachment.Agreement _
between the New York Telephone Company and the Town of Southold, all in accord-
ance with the approval of the agreement by Town Attorney Tasker.
16.-Vote of the Town Board : Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran; Council
man Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 17 is to authorize the Town Board and Commissione
of Public Works Ray Jacobs to travel to Tyler, Texas. I offer that resolution.
17. Moved by Supervisor Murphy, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Town .Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes all
members of the Southold Town Board, and Commissioner of Public Works Raymond
L. Jacobs to travel to Tyler,.. Texas on November 10th and 11th, 1986. for a demonstratior
of the Eweson Digestor, ' and all necessary expenses for travel, meals and lodging shall
be a legal charge against the Town of Southold.
17.-Vote of the Town Board : Ayes : Councilman Penny., Councilwoman Cochran, Council-
man Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 18 is 'to accept a resignation.
18. Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by Councilman Stoutenburgh, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts, with
regret, the resignation of Magdaline Goodrich, Town Historian, effective December
31, 1986.'
18.-Vote of the Town Board : Ayes : Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council-
man Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: And number 19 is a special resolution for Mitzi who is
retiring, and I'd like to ask her good friend Jean to read it.
19. Moved by Councilwoman. Cochran, seconded by the Entire Town Board,
WHEREAS, MAGDALINE GOODRICH, Southold Town Historian, a most valued official,
will retire from public service effective December 31, 1986, and
WHEREAS, MAGDALINE GOODRICH has given generously of her time and talents in
her faithful service to the Town of Southold residents as Southold Town Historian
since October 1, 1975; and
WHEREAS, MAGDALINE GOODRICH, in her endeavor to better serve the Town,
through diligent study became a Certified Genealogical Record Searcher; delivered
numerous speeches to organizations throughout the Town and County; participated
in the 1976 New York State Bicentennial. Commission; was a member-of the 1983
Suffolk County Tercentennial Commission and chairperson of the 1983 Southold Town
Tercentennial Committee; produced the '1983 "A. Brief History of Southold"; designed
the Town Banner and adopted George Yoerger's Town song, "Grand Old Southold";
has contributed to the historical library of the Town through the acquisition of
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numerous books and collections ; assistedmanyr:grade-school through college students
with essasy, term papers and. dissertations; spent time in Southwold, England in
.1976, and while there wrote the frontispiece on a program for the Queen'.s`"Jubilee;
received a national award in history from the American Legion Auxiliary;-'a Suffolk
County award in history from the Suffolk County Historical Association; transcribed
for printing- "Liber D" Volume 3 of Early Town Records, and is presently transcribing
"Liber E" Volume 4; and
WHEREAS, her fine record of service to-the Town of Southold and its people deserves
the sincere gratitude of those with whom and for whom she served; -now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby expresses their most
sincere appreciation to MAGDALINE "MITZI" GOODRICH for her unselfish, wholehearted
cooperation and untiring efforts on behalf of Southold Town, and extends their best
wishes for happiness in the years ahead; and be it further
RESOLVED that this resolution shall, be made a part of the permanent records of the
Town of Southold, and a copy be presented to Mrs. Goodrich.
19.-Vote of the Town Board : Ayes : Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council-!
man Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN : Well deserved.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY : . Thank you, Jean. Okay, number 20 is 'to authorize the
Town Clerk to advertise for resumes for the position of Historian, effective January
1, 1987 through December 31st, 1987., at a salary of $4, 800. 00 a year, to replace
Mitzi.
20. Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran, it 'was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the(, Town of Southold hereby authorizes and
directs the Town Clerk to advertis& for, resumes for the position of Historian,
effective January 1, 1987 through December 31, .1987, at a salary of $4, 800. 00
per year.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY : On the question, George?
GEORGE SULLIVAN : Frank, sorry to interrupt. Just on 17. Is that to authorize
all members or a member?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY : All members.
GEORGE SULLIVAN : And on the Pole Attachment Agreement, is that whereby the
New York Telephone pays the Town for their real estate taxes so to speak?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Yes.
GEORGE. SULLIVAN : Oh, okay. Is it 'a good agreement?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY : According to Mr. Tasker, yes.
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER : That's where we pay the Telephone Company for
electric street light fixtures.
GEORGE SULLIVAN : Oh, okay.
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER : It's $5. 00 a light. -
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: This 'is telephone, Bob, not LILCO.
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: I know, but we pay the Telephone Company for- the
lights affixed to the telephone poles. We pay LILCO for the ones affixed to LILCO
poles.
GEORGE SULLIVAN : Okay, thank you.
Vote on Resolution No. 20:
20.-Vote of the Town. Board : Ayes : Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran., Council-
man Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY : Okay, it's now 8:00 o'clock. I'd like a motion to recess
for the time it takes for us to hold our public hearings.
Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by Councilman Penny, it 'was
RESOLVED that a recess be called at this time, 8:00 P.IN1. , for the purpose of
holding the following public 'hearings:
8:00 P.M. - Reconvened from 3:00 P.M. - Preliminary 1987 Budget.
8:05 P.M. - Reconvened from 3:05 P.M. - Intended use of Federal Revenue
Sharing Funds for 1987.
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3: 10 P.M. - Proposed "Local Law in relation to parking restrictions. "
Vote of the Town Board : Ayes : Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council-
man Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor, Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
Regular Meeting reconvened at 8:50 P.M.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY : We'll reopen the regular Town Board meeting. Going back
to number V on our agenda. Number 21 is TABLED (Approve change to proposed
zoning map, and circulate the change to appropriate agencies : the Richard Carr
property located south of New Suffolk Avenue, Mattituck, from "HD" to "R-80".)
Number 22, a Local Law in relation to Wetlands Fees.
22. Moved by Councilman Penny, seconded by Councilman Schondebare,
WHEREAS, there has been presented to the Town Board of the Town of Southold a
proposed Local Law entitled, "A Local Law in Relation to Wetlands Permit Fees",
now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the. Town of Southold hereby sets 7:55 P.M. ,
Tuesday, November 18, 1986, Southold Town Hall„ Main Road, Southold, New York
as time and place for a public hearing on the aforesaid proposed Local Law which
reads as follows, to wit:
LOCAL LAW NO. - 1986
A Local Law in Relation to Wetlands Permit Fees
BE IT ENACTED by the Town Board of the Town of Southold as follows :
Chapter 97 '(Wetla.nds) of the Code of the Town of Southold is hereby amended
as follows:
1. Section 97-23A thereof is amended to read as follows:
97-23. Fees
A. Every application for a permit filed with the Clerk shall be
accompanied by a filing fee of one hundred fifty ($150.)
dollars, no portion of which shall be refundable. -
2. This Local Law shall take effect upon its fling with the Secretary of State.
22.-Vote of the Town Board : Ayes : Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council-'
man Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy.
This ' resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 23 is to transmit 'a proposed Local Law to the
Southold Town Planning Board and Suffolk County Department of Planning, in
accordance with the Code of the Town of Southold and Suffolk County Charter.
23. Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh, seconded by Councilman Schondebare,
WHEREAS, there has been presented to the Town Board of the Town of Southold
a proposed Local Law entitled, "A Local Law in Relation to Board of Appeals Fees",
now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED that the Town Clerk be and she hereby is authorized and directed to
transmit this proposed Local Law to the Southold Town Planning Board and Suffolk
County Department of Planning in accordance with the Code of the Town of Southold
and the Suffolk County Charter. Said proposed Local. Law reads as follows, to wit.-
LOCAL LAW NO. - 1986
A Local Law in Relation to Board of Appeals Fees
BE IT ENACTED by the Town Board of the Town of Southold as follows:
Chapter 100 (Zoning) of the Code of the Town of Southold is hereby amended
as follows :
1. Section 100-124 thereof is amended to read as follows:
100-124. Fees
All applications to the Board of Appeals for any relief herein
shall be accompanied by a fee of one hundred fifty ($150. )
dollars.
2. This Local Law shall take effect upon its filing with the Secretary of State.-
2 3.-Vote of the Town Board : Ayes : Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council-
man Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY : Number 24 is to create a position in the Highway Department.
24. Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by Councilman Penny, it was
RESOLVED that the .Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby creates the position
of Automotive Mechanic IV for the Southold Town Highway Department, with a starting
salary of $11. 30 per hour.
24.-Vote of the Town Board : Ayes : Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council-
man Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 25 is to authorize the increase of fees for the
purchase of the following Ordinance booklets and Code Book from the Town Clerk's
Office, effective immediately.
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25. Moved by Councilman Schondebare, ;.seconded,!Dy.-.Councilman Penny, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby increases the
fees for purchase of the following Ordinance booklets and Code Book from the
Town Clerk's Office, effective immediatly:
Code of the Town of Southold $125. 00
Annual Code Update $ 50. 00
Flood Plain Ordinance $ 6. 00
Highway Specifications $ 12. 00
Landmark Preservation Ordinance $ 2. 00
Scavenger Waste Ordinance $ 4. 00 -
Shellfish Ordinance. $ 3. 00
Subdivision of Land $ 11, 00 .
Vehicle E Traffic Ordinance $ 12. 00
Wetlands Ordinance $ 4. 00
Zoning Ordinance $ 25. 00
25.-Vote of the Town Board : Ayes : Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council-'
man Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 26 is to declare February 26th, 1974 as the official
dates of.the start of full-time employment of Justice Court Clerk Barbara Andrade.
26. Moved by Supervisor Murphy, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was .
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby declares that
February 26, 1974 is the official date of full-time employment of Justice Court
Clerk Barbara M.- Andrade, the date the Suffolk County Department of Civil
'Service certifies she was appointed off of the Justice Court Clerk list as a full-
time permanent employee of the Town of Southold.
26.-Vote of the Town Board : Ayes : Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council-
man Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. -
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 27 is 'to authorize the dog. enumeration throughout
the Town.
27. Moved by Councilman Penny, seconded by .Councilman Stoutenburgh, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes The
North Fork Animal Welfare League, Inc. to conduct a dog enumeration throughout
the Town of Southold, including the Village of Greenport, in an attempt to license
unlicensed dogs; the fee of $2.50 per newly licensed dog shall be paid to The
League for this service.
27.-Vote of the Town Board : Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council-'
man Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy. No: Councilman Schondebare.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR -MURPHY : Number 28 is 'to accept a bid and to authorize the execution
of a contract.
28. Moved by Councilman Penny, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the bid
of Richard Saetta, General Contractor, Inc. , in the amount of $51, 657. 00, for the
construction of the Kennel Area only of the Southold Town Dog Pound, and be it
further
RESOLVED that the Town Board hereby waives the bid bond, non-collusive bid
certificate, affirmative action certificate, pertormance bond and labor and material
bond, and be it further
RESOLVED that the Town Board hereby authorizes and directs Supervisor Francis
J. Murphy to execute a contract between the Town and Richard Saetta, General
Contractor, Inc. , for the accomplishment of the aforesaid; project, all in accordance
with the approval of the contract by Town Attorney Tasker.
28.-Vote of the Town Board : Ayes : Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council-
man Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Most people could build a house for this: Number 29 is
to authorize the hiring of a Fishers Island Ferry District employee.-
29. Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran, it 'was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the
Board of Commissioners of the Fishers Island Ferry District to employ Justin-M.
Driscoll, New London, Connecticut, as a part-time Deckhand, at 'a salary of $5. 09
per hour, effective immediately.
29.-Vote of the Town Board : Ayes : Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran,. Council-*
man Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 30 is a request to the Board of Ethics.
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- 30. Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran,
RESOLVED that because of today's changing world and the seemingly inactive Ethics
Code, the Town Board of the Town of Southold at this time request the Board of
Ethids to review the various Ethics Codes on the East End and the Suffolk County
Ethics Code, and incorporate the best from these-codes so that we can assure the
public that Southold's code is complete and adequate to meet the challenge of today's
changing world.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE : I'd like to ask for a modification of that, Paul.
". ..seemingly inactive Ethics Code. ." doesn't make sense. Seems like you mean a .
seemingly inactive Ethics Committee or Board. If that's what you meant, then I'd
have to object to that. Since nobody asked them they didn't have to. We know
that.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH : All right, then I'll leave it as Code. And it makes
sense to me, because if the Code wasn't correct maybe--if it was correct it would be
active.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: ". . .seemingly inactive Ethics Code. . . ?"
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH : Yes, if it's not adequate, it's inactive.
COUNCILMAN PENNY : Was it seconded?
TOWN CLERK TERRY: Yes.
COUNCILMAN PENNY: I move we table it and get it 'rewritten.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH : I don't see anything wrong with it.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE : ". . .seemingly inactive Ethics Code. . . " doesn't make
sense to me.
COUNCILMAN PENNY: Nope.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: You really don't even need that.
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN : You don't need that part. Just remove ". . .and the
seemingly inactive Ethics Code. ."
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: "The Town Board of the Town of Southold request the
Board of Ethics to review the various codes."
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH : All right, I'll accept that change.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE : Okay, as amended?
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN : As amended.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE : I move that as amended.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: I second it.
COUNCILMAN PENNY: I withdraw my motion to table.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any other questions?
Resolution No. 30 as amended :
30. Moved by Councilman Schondebare, seconded by Supervisor Murphy, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold at this time requests the
Board of Ethics to review the various. Ethics Codes on the East End and the Suffolk
County Ethics Code, and incorporate the best from these codes .so that we can assur
the public that Southold's .code is complete and adequate to meet the challenge of
today's changing world.
30.-Vote of the Town Board : Ayes : Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council-
man Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY : Number _31 is to authorize the Town Water Advisory Committee
to create a program and provide a Water Resource Management Plan for the Town of
Southold.
31. Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by Councilman Stoutenburgh, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and
directs the Southold Town Water Advisory Committee to create a program that would
provide a Water Resource Management Plan for the Town of Southold and recommend
a course of action to implement said plan. This Water Resource Management Plan shall
be completed within six (6) months from this date, which is May 6, 1987, and shall
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include, but not be limited to the followi:ng.::
1. Identify quantity stressed water areas throughout the Town and develop
guidelines to mitigate these problems.
2. Identify the water quality problem areas in the Town and develop guidelines
to mitigate these problems.
3. Identify the best water supply areas in' the Town with respect to quantity
and quality and suggest ways of preserving these valuable resources for later use.
4. Review the literature and determine the quantity'of water available to the
Town of Southold.
5. Determine if this quantity will be adequate for the present needs and future
needs of the Town..
31.-Vote of the Town Board : Ayes : Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council-
man Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: And if no one has any objection, I'd like a proposed Local
Law No. 13 to be enacted. This 'is the one we had the public hearing on tonight,
which we had so many comments on. So I'm sure nobody objects and we could adopt
this 'at this time.
32. Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh, seconded by Councilman Schondebare,
WHEREAS, a proposed Local Law No. 13 - .1986 was introduced at a meeting of this
Board held ont he 21st day of October, 1986, and
WHEREAS, a public hearing was held thereon by this 'Board on the 6th day of
November, :1986, at which time all interested persons were given an opportunity
to be heard thereon, now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED that Local Law No. 13 - 1986 be enacted as follows :
LOCAL LAW NO. 13 - 1986•
ALocal Law in relation to parking restrictions
BE IT ENACTED BY. THE Town Board of the Town of Southold as follows :
Chapter: 92 (Vehicle and Traffic) of the Code of the Town of Southold is -
amended as follows:
I. Section' 92-41 (Parking prohibited at all times) of Article IV is 'amended by
adding thereto the following :
Name of Street Side Location
Youngs Avenue West At Southold from the northerly curbline of Route
25 northerly for a distance of 186 feet.
11. This Local Law shall become effective upon its filing with the Secretary of State.
32.-Vote of the Town Board : Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council-
man Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Okay, that ends the prepared and added-on-to agenda.
Is there any Town Board members would like to further address anything? Ray?
JUSTICE EDWARDS : . Nothing, thank you, Frank.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Jean?
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN : Thank you, nothing.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Paul?
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH : Nothing.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Jay?
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Nothing, Frank.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY : George?
COUNCILMAN PENNY: Yes, I have something to say. While we're all here tonight,
amid' the confusion of the budget and other matters of importance, Southold Town has
taken a big step backwards in the affordable housing area. Resolution No. 9 went
down very quietly after having the support of at least four Town Board members,
and sometimes five. It was shot down tonight, and what this law was, which I didn't
read the entire thing at the time, was a modification which I offered to our existing
Affordable Housing Law, which is seemingly unworkable. It offered that instead of
a Town Board prescribed schedule of 100 of dwelling units for lease, 10o for attached,
100 one-family detached, and 10o unimproved lots as part of the 500 of the Affordable
Housing Law, we offered a modification which would allow the Planning Board and the
developers to work out the same percentage, but not to our prescribed mix, because
not all developers want to lease, not all developers want to sell unimproved lots, becausE
in a lot of cases they want their builders and they want to make money on the house,
and if somebody wanted to come in and just sell lots,. this law, the way it was originally,
would have prevented it. A builder had to develop, so somebody could not come in
and just offer an affordable housing land subdivision to people and let them build their
own houses. The law was workable with this revision, and it's very disappointing
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because the same people that are working very hard to upzone the only affordable
housing proposal that we have in front of Southold Town right now, are the people
that have shot down this law. So like I said' while we all sat here all worried about
the budget and all our other concerns, Southold Town has taken a major step back-
wards and I will, as long as Resolution No. 1 reappears for the six or seven times
that it 'has, I will' offer Resolution -this to be perpetual Resolution No. 2. 1 would
like to see this Affordable Housing Law passed so that at some time in' the future
Southold Town! can finally get realistic 'and start addressing the needs of the young
people and the people out here on moderate incomes so that they're not met with
these ridiculous $150,000 - $200,000 costs and can get something in' a price range
packet of about $75,000, which this modification was intended to do. So, we now
have perpetual Resolution No. 2, which I offer for the next meeting.
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN : And I will second that every time.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH : In the meantime we will have an Affordable Housing
Law that is on he books.
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN : That isn't workable.
COUNCILMAN PENNY: That is 'unworkable.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: That we have had two and a half months of trial.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY : Okay. All right, anything else, George?
COUNCILMAN PENNY : Yes, I just want to say that this came with the blessing of
the Planning Board. '!This modification was one of the original requests of the
Planning Board because they felt that our law was too restrictive in the first case.
It comes with the recommendation of the Town Planner, who we hired to review these
laws to make them workable, and once again' it's very disappointing to see.that some
of the support which this 'had--and it 'has had, I say once again'. the four votes to
carry this up until 'tonight, but people have chosen fit to abandon it, and I feel that
what they have done--althought they maybe feel that they are getting even with John
Costello or with some of the people on his 'proposal, what they've done is affect
fordable housing--any proposal that will come up for the Town of Southold. So I
hope that they'll remember this 'night very well. Thank you.
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN : Hear_! Hear!
SUPERVISOR MURPHY :. That's your opinion.
WILLIAM PFEFFER: I wonder if 'we can go back just for a moment.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: We're opening it 'up right now. You may have the floor.
Pleae stand and use the mike. Thank you.
WILLIAM PFEFFER: I'm not sure that I heard Councilman Penny's report correctly
on the cost of the Dog Pound. What was that figure? It went to fast.
TOWN CLERK TERRY : 1t was $51,.657. 00..
MR. PFEFFER : . Thank you.
MR. FRANK JORDAN : That's affordable housing for dogs.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY : It's ,500 square foot cinder block building._
TOWN CLERK TERRY : The next lowest bid was one hundred and thirty some
thousand for the same project.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: The total bid' package was in the three hundred thousand
range.
TOWN CLERK TERRY: The third bid was one hundred and fifty thousand.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: The same plan, same specs..
SUPERVISOR MURPHY : It's unbelieveable. Yes, sir.
ADOLPH WESTERLUND, JR. : Supervisor Murphy, I'm Chief Westerlund from the
Southold Fire Department. I reside in Peconic ' across the street from the Police
Station and across the street from the Dog Pound. My complaint to the Board is
at any time. between 12:00 o'clock and 8:00 o'clock in' the morning the dogs are
out there constantly barking. Something has to be done about this. I also would
like to bring to the attention of the Board the filth conditions that do exist over
at that Dog Pound. I was over there the other day. I got up at 4:00 o'clock in
the morning- when I was awoken. There was 40 dogs over there, some of them tied
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up two by two, and this 'is 'not tolerable. 1 can't sleep at night, and now you're
going to put another Dog Pound in-' there.. I just want to know if you're going to
do anything to keep the noise level down and what is the intention fo the Board?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: We are working on it. We tried a plan. It didn't work.
This was another alternative, and hopefully this will help. The new building that
Danny isgoing to put up, the property building, probably will shield the lights
from mainly the police cars, and all going in' there. Evidentially this is what stirs
the dogs up, and it is every annoying. We're very aware of it, and we're trying
to correct it.
MR. WESTERLUND : ' And also, why do we have to take Greenport's dogs in'. I mean
it seems to me they should have their.own Dog Pound. They have their own lighting
company, why can't they own a Dog Pound. Why do they have to bring their dogs
up here?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY; The Department of Agriculture and Markets regulation. It's
a Town function.
MR. WESTERLUND: Well, you'll be hearing from me more if this situation isn't
cleared up, because it just can't go on this 'way. There's got to be something
done there.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY : I realize it's terrible.
MR. WESTERLUND: And I can get a whole neighborhood of people down here if 'I
wanted to. I was just hoping that something can be resolved, because the condition
is 'just totally--I mean it's filth. You ought to take a walk back. there. Take a ride
back there tomorrow, all of you, and you want to see stink, filth, garbage. . .
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Were these dogs. outside when you want over this 'mornir;g?
MR. WESTERLUND : Yes. There's so many dogs over there they can't put them inside
the pens anymore. They've got them tide outside. There's eight and ten dogs in the
runs down there. —
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN : And you hit '40 'right, because their report said' there
were 40 dogs up there presently.
MR. WESTERLUND: I counted 40 the other day at 4:00 o'clock in' the morning when
they were barking. How would you like to be woken up every morning at 4:00 o'clock?
Everytime a cars pulls in:there?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY : It's terrible. It's very annoying.
COUNCILMAN STOUTEN BURGH : Absolutely.
MR. WESTERLUND: I'll call everyone of you when I get up when the dogs wake
me up.
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: No thanks. The whole facility should be relocated.
MR. WESTERLUND : Thank you. I hope somethings done about this 'because these
conditions are unbearable.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY : Hopefully this might help.
MR. WESTERLUND : I doubt it very much.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: It'sw not going to help right away.
MR. WESTERLUND : You've got to have something different there. I wouldn't even
build a Dog Pound. 1. think you should save that money and start all over again
and think of another resolution for this 'problem. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: I agree. And we're very sorry, really, for the inconvenience.
BILL WITSKE: Good evening. I'm Bill Witske.' I live right across the street from
the Chief. I don't mind getting woken up 4:00 o'clock in the morning to go to a fire,
but when it's dogs it's getting a little ridiculous. F have two young children and a
wife who works at night and like a lot of people I enjoy a good night's sleep. I don't
think turning the building' 90 degrees away from the police is not goin5 to help. A
stray dog or any stray. cat comes by they start barking. I walk by 150 yards away
they start barking at me, so it's more than just turning the building way to stop this
problem. You've got to put it in a desolate area. The Town Dump they used to have
it years ago, I understand. I don't see why you can't go back there again. You .
know, if the dogs get loose there's nothing to prevent them from running around the
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neighborhund a9dan, and as my Chief has said, it's a mess back there and filthy hazard.
I keep a good eye on my kids, but if--you know, I've got a two year. old who's as
curious as Hell, and if he got back there God knows what he'd get into. > I'd really
appreciate the Town Board looking into another place to put that Dog Pound. Thank
you for your time.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY : Thank you. And again, we're sorry for your problems.
Anyone else on the left? Ed?
ED SIEGMANN : Ed Siegmann, Mattituck. Number one I would like to thank Paul
Stoutenburgh for putting on the resolution that he did today. I think at least
we'll be able to say to the people in' the area that have been addressing you people
on this problem that somebody is 'listening to us. I would also like to ask if'we
would be notified when this goes back. on to the agenda again, since you tabled it
tonight, that the things that we would have liked to said tonight will' be afforded
to say at that time when it goes back on the agenda. Maybe we can be added as
the Number 3 on the perpetual resolutions, and I'm serious. I'm not kidding about
this; I feel that the people in' the area that we have the problem with can appreciate
how you feel, George, tonight, sayting that you. feel like you were shot down. We've
been shot down too.
COUNCILMAN PENNY : I- just want to say, Ed, that I wasn't shot down tonight,
affordable housing was.
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN : Exactly.
MR. SIEGMANN : And so was our problem, because you didn't have the guts to vote
on it.'
SUPERVISOR MURPHY : Okay, on the left, anyone else? (No response.) In the
middle like to address the Town Board? In the middle here? (No response.) Over
on the right? Yes, ma'am.
CLAIRE STEVENS: I hope I'm doing this right now.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY : Yes, you're right.
CLAIRE STEVENS: My name's Claire Stevens. I would like to address Resolution 1"
if I may.
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN : It's in relation to the application to the State Division
of Youth for a Recreation Grant.
MS. STEVENS: Yes. Apart from the application by Supervisor Murphy to the
New York State Division of Youth, I'd like to know what the available funds are.
Currently and-.proposed for the Recreation Department.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: There are many line items. It's a very---I would suggest,
if you would like--and not to put you off--we could pull them out from the budget,
but it would be very piecemeal. It's many, many line items in the budget. To talk
to the Recreation Director Sue Fossett. Have you spoken to her?
MS,., STEVENS : Yes.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: And are you satisfied with the answer?
MS. STEVENS: No.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY : All right, do you want to come into my office and I'II go
through the budget-and show you where the recreation money is.
MS. STEVENS: Okay. Thank you for the information.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Surely. It would be much easier and much more rewarding
for you, really, to go line by line in the budget to show you where recreation
money is; because there's a lot of in' and out programs. Programs for the young,
the handicapped, elderly, that type of stuff. Okay, anyone else like to address the
Town Board? Sir?
RON STRANG: I just have one question in' reference to Resolution No. 29 about the
hiring of a part-time Deckhand. I noticed when it was spoken about a few minutes
ago, it was somebody from New London, Connecticut that was hired for this 'job.
There was nobody from our Town that needed a job to be hired in!-the Town of Southold?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: This 'is for the operation of the Fishers Island Ferry boat
which goes from New London to Fishers Island.
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MR. STRANG : Well, whether it goes from New London or not, we still have people
here that I'm sure could use a job. They couldn't find somebody over here. They
have to go to Connecticut to find someone?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY : They'd have to take two ferries.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE : They'd have to move.
MR. STRANG : I see. You mean the ferry doesn't stop here at all?
TOWN CLERK TERRY: Do you know where Fishers - island is? -
MR. STRANG: Yeah, I know where it is. I've fished around there.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY : The Fishers Island ferry doesn't come to Southold. It
goes to New London, back and forth. Once a year it comes and brings the Town
Board over to Fishers Island for their'annual meeting.
COUNCILMAN- SCHONDEBARE: They don't want it to come to Southold. It's the
whole idea. _
JUSTICE EDWARDS: . I don't blame them.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY : Anyone else want to address the Town Board? Sir.
JIM MARTENSEN : Jim Martensen, Southold. This is a spin-off of the young lady's
question about Resolution No. 11. Does that invitation extend to myself also, Mr.
Murphy.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY : Certainly will:
MR. MARTENSEN : Because I'm also not satisfied with some of the answers.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY :. Sure. Sure. If you'd like to make a date with Mary Ann
and all of you come in I'll .review the budget with you, okay?
MR. MARTENSEN : Thank you.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY : Anyone else like to address the Town Board? (No response.)
If not, I'd like to entertain a motion to adjourn. I'd like to thank everybody for
attending tonight.
Moved by Councilwoman. Cochran, seconded by Councilman Stoutenburgh, it was
RESOLVED that this Town Board meeting be and hereby is 'adjourned at 9: 10 P.M.
Vote of the Town Board : Ayes : Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council-
man Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
Judith T. Terry .
Southold Town Clerk